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End Times
7th November 2018, 03:31 PM
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/11/05/advocacy-group-wants-people-with-down-syndrome-added-to-endangered-species-list/
Should people with Down syndrome be listed alongside the red-belly toad, hooded vulture, and eastern gorilla as an endangered species?
The Canadian Down Syndrome Society (CDSS) thinks so, and it has launched a provocative campaign in hopes of raising awareness about the struggles people with Down syndrome are facing.
The non-profit organization is applying to the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN) to have people with Down syndrome become the first humans added to its Red List of over 27,000 endangered species.
The headline-grabbing move is part of the CDSS’s Endangered Syndrome campaign that coincides with Canadian Down Syndrome Week from November 1-7.
The group argues that people with Down syndrome should share in the same funding and protections afforded to at-risk animal and plant species.
“In some countries like the U.S., there have been 30% fewer people born with Down syndrome than projected, and in a few countries, that number is approaching zero. Because of this, the Down syndrome community has less of a voice in the world today, resulting in a lack of housing, education and funding for a community that desperately needs support,” the CDSS said in a release.
Jewboo
7th November 2018, 03:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQp8OJN5Rjk
Lobby for Genetic Birth Defects.
:rolleyes: oy vey
Neuro
7th November 2018, 04:16 PM
The sad thing is that the amniotic fluid test, that is required for a diagnosis of Down’s syndrome, actually kills more healthy babies, through spontaneous abortion, than it detects babies with Down’s syndrome.
Neuro
7th November 2018, 04:38 PM
The sad thing is that the amniotic fluid test, that is required for a diagnosis of Down’s syndrome, actually kills more healthy babies, through spontaneous abortion, than it detects babies with Down’s syndrome.
I just saw Jewboo’s posted video, it said that a blood test could determine with almost 100% certainty whether a baby had Down syndrome. I assume it is the mothers blood, so it’s much safer than the old amniotic fluid test. 90% decide to abort if the test is positive. I feel ambivalent towards the technology that allows us to ‘play gods’.
Jewboo
7th November 2018, 04:55 PM
I just saw Jewboo’s posted video, it said that a blood test could determine with almost 100% certainty whether a baby had Down syndrome. I assume it is the mothers blood, so it’s much safer than the old amniotic fluid test. 90% decide to abort if the test is positive. I feel ambivalent towards the technology that allows us to ‘play gods’.
I'm not ambivalent about MY TAX MONEY supporting someone else's genetically defective kid for seventy years+.
:rolleyes:
singular_me
7th November 2018, 05:04 PM
both parents before to conceive should have blood tests
Neuro
7th November 2018, 05:11 PM
I'm not ambivalent about MY TAX MONEY supporting someone else's genetically defective kid for seventy years+.
:rolleyes:
There are many that are not genetically deficient that you still have to support with your tax money. Besides they don’t usually live that long...
https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/0*eW6eipZlX-10xOdF.gif
Jewboo
7th November 2018, 05:11 PM
both parents before to conceive should have blood tests
...And a PATERNITY test after every birth.
:)
Neuro
7th November 2018, 05:17 PM
both parents before to conceive should have blood tests
This is just stupid, you can’t detect the risk of Down’s syndrome prior to conception.
End Times
7th November 2018, 05:29 PM
I'm not ambivalent about MY TAX MONEY supporting someone else's genetically defective kid for seventy years+.
:rolleyes:
I empathize with both you and Neuro.
Neuro's concerns are justified. When will the technology be used to abort perfectly healthy Aryan children because their birth would be "detrimental to racial diversity"? Medical technology that can detect retards can also detect "socially unacceptable" traits.
However, you are absolutely right. Nearly all individuals with Down's Syndrome cannot support themselves - ever. There are a few exceptions, but most have a life solely because the State provides monthly subsistence payments (SSI and sometimes SSDI on a parent's account), plus "rehabilitation" services, yes, for life. $1000 to $4000 per month. For life. Only a tiny number of families are rich enough to actually sustain their Down's Syndrome kids independently, but of those I've known, each and every one signed up the offspring for SSI nonetheless.
And, apart from the fiscal implications of promoting defectives as "normal," there is the philosophical angle. Defects are never "normal," and cannot be "accepted" as equal to full health. This is nothing but Reproductive Bolshevism - making the cripple the ideal - as Jews and their Shabbos Goyim did in Art Bolshevism (aka Degenerate Art). The "deaf community" has been doing similar for quite a while, desiring deaf offspring.
End Times
7th November 2018, 05:30 PM
There are many that are not genetically deficient that you still have to support with your tax money. Besides they don’t usually live that long...
I had Down's Syndrome clients living into their 50s, at least. Down's Syndrome individuals do have diminished life expectancy, but it's not by that much. The social costs to support them are very real, numbering in the billions annually.
Neuro
7th November 2018, 05:33 PM
I empathize with both you and Neuro.
Neuro's concerns are justified. When will the technology be used to abort perfectly healthy Aryan children because their birth would be "detrimental to racial diversity"? Medical technology that can detect retards can also detect "socially unacceptable" traits.
However, you are absolutely right. Nearly all individuals with Down's Syndrome cannot support themselves - ever. There are a few exceptions, but most have a life solely because the State provides monthly subsistence payments (SSI and sometimes SSDI on a parent's account), plus "rehabilitation" services, yes, for life. $1000 to $4000 per month. For life. Only a tiny number of families are rich enough to actually sustain their Down's Syndrome kids independently, but of those I've known, each and every one signed up the offspring for SSI nonetheless.
And, apart from the fiscal implications of promoting defectives as "normal," there is the philosophical angle. Defects are never "normal," and cannot be "accepted" as equal to full health. This is nothing but Reproductive Bolshevism - making the cripple the ideal - as Jews and their Shabbos Goyim did in Art Bolshevism (aka Degenerate Art). The "deaf community" has been doing similar for quite a while, desiring deaf offspring.
What would you do if you had a baby diagnosed with Down’s syndrome prior to birth?
End Times
7th November 2018, 05:35 PM
This is just stupid, you can’t detect the risk of Down’s syndrome prior to conception.
Maybe Goldie is "cognitively impaired" herself? :D
End Times
7th November 2018, 05:36 PM
What would you do if you had a baby diagnosed with Down’s syndrome prior to birth?
God never cursed me with such a horrible decision. I cannot tell a mother or father they must "feel blessed" by such a curse. And I cannot answer that question never having had to face it.
Neuro
7th November 2018, 05:47 PM
God never cursed me with such a horrible decision. I cannot tell a mother or father they must "feel blessed" by such a curse. And I cannot answer that question never having to face it.
I don’t know either. With our children we never had any tests to detect any genetic problems, we didn’t even wanted to know the sex of them. We were determined to love them no matter what. I suspect though in my younger years if we had been told that it was close to 100% certainty that the baby had Down’s syndrome we would have decided on abortion. Nowadays probably we would have decided differently, but we are beyond reproductive age now pretty much.
Jewboo
7th November 2018, 06:05 PM
What would you do if you had a baby diagnosed with Down’s syndrome prior to birth?
https://i.imgur.com/WgsaitO.jpg
It is immoral to "tax" the neighbors to support defective births. Left alone...God will take them soon enough.
:rolleyes:
mamboni
7th November 2018, 06:09 PM
Down's syndrome is a chromosomal nondisjunction caused by nutritional deficiencies in the pregnant mother during the first trimester. It is easily prevented by supplementation of the mother preferably 6 weeks prior to conception and often even during the first trimester by supplementation with the 90 essential nutrients, especially the 60 essential minerals with emphasis on selenium and zinc. A few dollars in supplements can prevent this tragic congenital DEFECT that costs both the victims and society untold $billions. Women in their 30s and even 40s can have perfectly healthy babies IF they are nutritionally replete. Your OB/GYN will never tell you this. Shame on the doctors!
End Times
7th November 2018, 06:26 PM
Down's syndrome is a chromosomal nondisjunction caused by nutritional deficiencies in the pregnant mother during the first trimester. It is easily prevented by supplementation of the mother preferably 6 weeks prior to conception and often even during the first trimester by supplementation with the 90 essential nutrients, especially the 60 essential minerals with emphasis on selenium and zinc. A few dollars in supplements can prevent this tragic congenital DEFECT that costs both the victims and society untold $billions. Women in their 30s and even 40s can have perfectly healthy babies IF they are nutritionally replete. Your OB/GYN will never tell you this. Shame on the doctors!
Better prenatal nutrition through "alternative" medicine education may very well be the reason fewer Down's Syndrome individuals are being born. Not (solely) due to abortion. Hardly an "endangered species." Unfortunately, "charities" depend upon an endless supply of misery to maintain financial stability.
Neuro
7th November 2018, 06:32 PM
https://i.imgur.com/WgsaitO.jpg
It is immoral to "tax" the neighbors to support defective births. Left alone...God will take them soon enough.
:rolleyes:
I do agree to a degree. In days gone by it was expected by those of wealth to help those that ran out of luck in their midst through Christian charity. If they didn’t to a certain degree (according to their perceived wealth) then they would be ostracized by their neighbors who wouldn’t then frequent their business, and they would be less successful, and in time less wealthy. Most likely at those times the parents of a child with a severe physical disability, such as Down’s syndrome, would be helped initially, but by their family, friends and neighbors be convinced, to focus their attention on their healthy children, and leave this child in the forest at the mercy of god. As they didn’t have the resources to care for it in the long run. And no person of wealth was likely to support the family for decades.
BrewTech
7th November 2018, 07:20 PM
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/11/05/advocacy-group-wants-people-with-down-syndrome-added-to-endangered-species-list/
Should people with Down syndrome be listed alongside the red-belly toad, hooded vulture, and eastern gorilla as an endangered species?
The Canadian Down Syndrome Society (CDSS) thinks so, and it has launched a provocative campaign in hopes of raising awareness about the struggles people with Down syndrome are facing.
The non-profit organization is applying to the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN) to have people with Down syndrome become the first humans added to its Red List of over 27,000 endangered species.
The headline-grabbing move is part of the CDSS’s Endangered Syndrome campaign that coincides with Canadian Down Syndrome Week from November 1-7.
The group argues that people with Down syndrome should share in the same funding and protections afforded to at-risk animal and plant species.
“In some countries like the U.S., there have been 30% fewer people born with Down syndrome than projected, and in a few countries, that number is approaching zero. Because of this, the Down syndrome community has less of a voice in the world today, resulting in a lack of housing, education and funding for a community that desperately needs support,” the CDSS said in a release.
1. Humans with Down Syndrome are a separate species altogether? Seriously?
2. There is a declining number of DS births (approaching zero)... and that's something to be alarmed about? WTF?
3. Are we relatively sure this wasn't thinly-veiled humor? A clever shot at the "victimization of everything" crowd?
What's next? "Only half as many cases of lung cancer this year... what the hell are we going to do about this terrible problem?" Is it just me, or does this seem like a call to figure out a way to INCREASE the number of people with Down Syndrome?
What am I missing here?
???
mamboni
7th November 2018, 07:36 PM
1. Humans with Down Syndrome are a separate species altogether? Seriously?
2. There is a declining number of DS births (approaching zero)... and that's something to be alarmed about? WTF?
3. Are we relatively sure this wasn't thinly-veiled humor? A clever shot at the "victimization of everything" crowd?
What's next? "Only half as many cases of lung cancer this year... what the hell are we going to do about this terrible problem?" Is it just me, or does this seem like a call to figure out a way to INCREASE the number of people with Down Syndrome?
What am I missing here?
???I think society in general is going slowly mad from chronic malnutrition and exposure to man-made environmental toxins(i.e. artificial sweeteners, preservatives and colors, nutritionally dead empty foods laced with glysphosphate, processed sugar and salt, hydrogenated fats, bleached grains, chemtrails, fluoridated chlorinated water, electromagnetic pollution etc.). There's a lot of science behind this premise. People are not thinking clearly or logically. I look at someone like POTUS who is so highly placed in the power structure with access to the best of everything; yet, he is overweight and extremely unhealthy with a horrific diet. An unclean unsound body leads to an unclean unsound mind. The collective consciousness is undergoing a slow rot.
Neuro
8th November 2018, 01:12 AM
1. Humans with Down Syndrome are a separate species altogether? Seriously?
2. There is a declining number of DS births (approaching zero)... and that's something to be alarmed about? WTF?
3. Are we relatively sure this wasn't thinly-veiled humor? A clever shot at the "victimization of everything" crowd?
What's next? "Only half as many cases of lung cancer this year... what the hell are we going to do about this terrible problem?" Is it just me, or does this seem like a call to figure out a way to INCREASE the number of people with Down Syndrome?
What am I missing here?
???
It sure wasn’t an attempt at humor. I guess the problem is that this group is selectively murdered as fetuses through abortion. Personally I am against abortion. To an extent I think abortions are more acceptable with children who are likely to suffer life long disabilities, which would put undue pressure on the family and society. But on the other hand couldn’t that argument be made for the single woman who couldn’t keep her legs together too? Even if the child is intact. She would have problem supporting her self while looking after the baby, and society have to step in. And it is a well known fact that children growing up without a father are less well adjusted in life, and are more likely to become a lifelong burden to society.
Really the Welfare state is an abomination.
I wonder if there are any SJW liberals who are for free abortion, but not in cases such as these? That would be the most hypocritical position to be in... ;D
Bigjon
8th November 2018, 05:51 AM
There is definitely an attempt by govt forces to create dependent people. They have to get rid of self-sufficient white people by poisoning them with GMO's, vaccinations, fluoride and laws to hamstring self-initiative.
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