'Humanity should be put first, not money', Macron holds urgent security meeting

[singular_me]

just another plan to derail society... the gas price hike added to the costs of mass immigration is creating poverty. Most protesters are anti-immigration and connecting dots it seems
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'Humanity should be put first, not money': Paris protests

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQTw5us49is


Paris protest: ‘People are in the red. They can’t afford to eat’
We are here to protest against the government because of the rise in taxes [in general], not just petrol taxes, which is the straw that broke the camel’s back. We’ve had enough. We have low salaries and pay too much tax and the combination is creating more and more poverty.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/24/paris-fuel-tax-protest-macron-france-poverty

France fuel protests: Macron holds urgent security meeting
02 December 2018
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-46417991

Minister says it is ‘time to listen’ but president expected to hold firm on fuel tax rise
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/25/macron-to-respond-to-grievances-of-low-paid-in-wake-of-protests

Macron Admits France in ‘Moral Crisis’ as Protesters Demand Resignation Over Fuel Tax
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/24/macron-france-in-moral-crisis-as-protesters-demand-resignation-over-fuel-taxes/

The Unspoken Reason Behind The Yellow Vests Protest - Timothé Vorgenss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNs3rv40z-I

[vacuum]

http://magaimg.net/img/6t04.png

[Neuro]

Mass immigration of baby factories who are unable to contribute to society causes accelerating hardships on those that do. Now as the white workers say No! to bearing the costs, society breaks down!

[kiffertom]

its been a while back when ii was visiting an old man down the street. the haiti earthquake just happened. he said that that could happen to any of us. i said they were gonna send millions to them to help. he said "fuck them". arent you hardcore for that response i said. he followed with do you know how much work 1000 men can do with shovels? this has stayed with me ever since. why cant blacks work together as a whole? no where on earth is a place governed by blacks that has its shit together. why cant people see this? we are so rich in the west that we are able to create an independent personal world where what we see or know doesnt matter if it goes against what we believe.


https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/health/north-dublin-residents-vigilante-15495318

Residents in north Dublin are considering setting up local community patrols in an effort to tackle local gangs that have been terrorising people on the streets.

A local Facebook group for crime in the Rush and Lusk areas is looking to set up a a "peaceful" patrol in an attempt to stop the gangs of 20 youths or more.

But other residents have suggested that it is time "people take the law into their own hands" due to increasing anti-social behaviour and crime in the area.

[Ares]

But other residents have suggested that it is time "people take the law into their own hands" due to increasing anti-social behaviour and crime in the area.

The law has ALWAYS been in our own hands. All humanity did was delegate the responsibility to a faceless organization to administer the "law" that some in society feel is unpleasant. But like all things it will eventually revert back to the natural order of going back to "mob justice". It isn't pretty, it usually isn't just, but it is justice as those who administer it feel justified.

[singular_me]

its like a warning for immigrants, that they shouldnt take europeans for granted

====================
Anti-Macron Protests Spread, Ambulance Workers Join Rebellion
Paramedics blocked the Place de la Concorde near the National Assembly in downtown Paris at 5:30 am local time, blaring their sirens and holding banners condemning government-mandated industry reforms, reports France Info.

Protesters set tires on fire in the street while others chanted “Macron resign!” according to the Associated Press. One protester held a placard reading “the State killed me.”
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/03/anti-macron-protests-spread-ambulance-workers-join-rebellion/

Paris rioting: French government considers state of emergency over ‘gilets jaunes’ protests (guardian.uk)

[End Times]

The law has ALWAYS been in our own hands. All humanity did was delegate the responsibility to a faceless organization to administer the "law" that some in society feel is unpleasant. But like all things it will eventually revert back to the natural order of going back to "mob justice". It isn't pretty, it usually isn't just, but it is justice as those who administer it feel justified.

I respectfully disagree. "The law" has generally, in nearly all cases, simply been imposed upon us. One Being has that right, because He does know best. However, the majority of human history "the law" has been a man made counterfeit. In the current era, this man made counterfeit is based on the Talmud.

When someone says "society has chosen," they are using a euphemism for self-appointed elite, a tiny minority. The percentage of this elite made up of the infamous (((ethnic minority))) is always vastly disproportionate.

Real law is greatly beneficial to health of individual and society and healthy growth of both. Fake "law" is a weapon by which the elite controls and shears or even kills the ruled.

Personally, I don't look forward to "mob justice," since the masses are usually wrong. Responsible vigilance, applying God's natural law, is quite another thing, though. ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilance_committee

[Jewboo]

When someone says "society has chosen," they are using a euphemism for self-appointed elite, a tiny minority. The percentage of this elite made up of the infamous (((ethnic minority))) is always vastly disproportionate.




https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2017/07/Justice-1024x640.jpg
Outlawing Whitey Worldwide Since 1945

[old steel]

I would imagine the little commie globalist macaroni is filling his pants while holding his grandma wifes hand waiting for her decision on what to do.

[End Times]

Dacron the plastic "leader" (made by Keter in "Israel") is surely wetting his panties facing this crisis.

The French reputation for being cowards is completely unfair. This mass movement, even if it accomplishes nothing, shows the fighting spirit of Charles Martel still lives in the hearts of real Frenchmen.

[Jewboo]

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1543709912414.gif
Macron


:D egg

[singular_me]

nov 6

France protests: Authorities to deploy almost 90,000 police this weekend amid fears of more riots
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/france-protests-yellow-vests-paris-riots-police-security-violence-macron-gilet-jaunes-a8671596.html

[singular_me]

it is spreading...

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France protests: How Emmanuel Macron hid behind the majestic walls of his presidential palace while outside Paris and his country once again erupted in fury........ It was a day of reckoning, a day of insurrection. And this time the revolutionary spirit was catching. There were also disturbances in Marseilles, France’s second city, and in Brussels.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6475655/How-Macron-hid-walls-palace-country-erupted-fury.html


Macron Disappears as France Locks Down for Weekend Violence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bobJihgGHiw

[End Times]

Macron Disappears as France Locks Down for Weekend Violence.

A Leader would tackle these issues head-on, in a respectful though assertive manner. Authenticity goes a long way. But Dacron is a plastic puppet.

[Neuro]

It is funny how the left seems to take over the protests, that initially got started by people who were objecting to high taxes stemming from costs of social security of mass immigration.

The only thing they agree upon is that Micron should leave.

More of the same shit will now solve the problem...

[Jewboo]

It is funny how the left seems to take over the protests, that initially got started by people who were objecting to high taxes stemming from costs of social security of mass immigration.


The real protestors work all week to pay the taxes so can only riot on the weekend Saturday. Then church on Sunday...

:D chumps

[singular_me]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0GHWSi_cXY

Total Media Blackout! Paris Is Far Worse Than They Will Tell You!

[Jewboo]

Total Media Blackout! Paris Is Far Worse Than They Will Tell You!

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1544398834726.jpg

Some 4chan genius just posted this in a France thread. This is the kind of clever understated zinger that brings me to 4chan every day.

:D

[singular_me]

sounds like a real awakening... but there is still some way to go

25 DEMANDS TO END CRISIS
https://c81s22ku6ih1er8af18cv13c-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/yellow-vest-demands.jpg

BIGGER SIZE PIC, then zoom in: https://c81s22ku6ih1er8af18cv13c-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/yellow-vest-demands.jpg

go to link https://www.wakingtimes.com/2018/12/14/the-demands-of-the-yellow-vest-movement-are-growing-into-real-systemic-change/

[End Times]

Some of that stuff sounds like it came from the other 25 Points.


https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c2ZjWrIu5Ww/XBBDRarP_XI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/pxyOKr5MvYITDCPa8cnc6BvXcWq8EFU7ACEwYBhgL/s1600/vest.jpg

[singular_me]

since it is all about money... thats good start

Yellow Vests' protests hit Israel
Arrests made as yellow-vested protesters condemn high living costs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w5ulMrmlz8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq-HAEk0YMc


The Truth About the 'Yellow Vest' Protests by Paul Joseph Watson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EHIcpSxdv4


French generals accuse Macron
french link: https://www.minurne.org/billets/19275

French Generals accuse President Macron of treason over UN Migration Pact - Translated to English https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/a6afdy/french_generals_accuse_president_macron_of/

[Horn]

Some of that stuff sounds like it came from the other 25 Points.


https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c2ZjWrIu5Ww/XBBDRarP_XI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/pxyOKr5MvYITDCPa8cnc6BvXcWq8EFU7ACEwYBhgL/s1600/vest.jpg

1 and 2 are a failure of logic and makes anyone reading stop there.

Holding taxes to 25% and increasing pensions 40% is just inane.

[singular_me]

My son who opposed my visions for quite a while, told me yesterday that fixing the mess with money is no longer possible. Meaning that he begins to get it.



1 and 2 are a failure of logic and makes anyone reading stop there.
Holding taxes to 25% and increasing pensions 40% is just inane.

[End Times]

My son who opposed my visions for quite a while, told me yesterday that fixing the mess with money is no longer possible. Meaning that he begins to get it.

Money has never been a solution to problems created by the love of money.

Only blood can solve the problems this world faces. Theirs...and ours.

[singular_me]

some fun in the making
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BBC endorses reporter’s actions seeking to find Russian influence in Yellow Vest protests
https://www.rt.com/news/446609-bbc-reporter-yellow-vests/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

Wake Up!" Italian MEP REDPILLS EU Lawmakers (first 3 mins)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMl0_WWTeIE

The hacking collective known as "Anonymous" has published more explosive documents detailing a UK-based psyop to create a "large-scale information secret service" in Europe in order to combat "Russian propaganda" — which has been blamed for everything from Brexit to Trump winning the 2016 US election to this month's anti-Macron "Yellow Vest" protests.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-14/leaked-memo-touts-uk-funded-firms-ability-create-untraceable-news-sites-infowar

[singular_me]

looks like RT has an excellent coverage... thats the russians. LOL

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‘Macron… WHAT?’ French TV channel ‘censors’ photo of Yellow Vest protester’s placard (PHOTOS)
https://img.rt.com/files/2018.12/article/5c17545cfc7e93cd388b4658.jpg
https://www.rt.com/news/446596-france-protests-weird-images/


Mysterious half-naked ‘Mariannes’
These silver-painted women in blood-red hoodies, posing as the national revolutionary icon, clearly added a new flavor to the demonstrations. Standing silently in front of police and gendarmes in full gear, the women made quite an impression on social media. Many users admitted that they loved these Mariannes and appreciated their symbolism

https://img.rt.com/files/2018.12/article/5c176f6bdda4c8bf0a8b4584.jpg

https://www.rt.com/news/446596-france-protests-weird-images/

[singular_me]

how to fuel more protests: shoot and kill

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French police should be allowed to use LIVE bullets and ‘shoot-to-kill’ tactics on Yellow Vest protesters, the country’s former education minister says
Luc Ferry, 68, served in Jacques Chirac's government and is now a philosopher
The Yellow Vest protests against fuel tax have been ongoing since 17 November
Ferry said in an interview with Classic Radio that police should now fire weapons
Mr Macron's government has recently announced a crackdown on the protests

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6570491/Police-use-shoot-kill-tactics-Yellow-Vest-protesters-former-education-minister-says.html
PUBLISHED: 16:15 EST, 8 January 2019


French Gilets Jaunes: Who is protest leader Eric Drouet?
03 January 2019
Mr Drouet is already facing a weapons charge for possessing what his lawyer said was a piece of wood
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/695/cpsprodpb/4ECE/production/_105047102_hi051416559.jpg
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-46745656

France's Yellow Vest protest threatens to explode into further violence after one of its leaders is arrested as he tried to light candles in memory of those killed during demonstrations
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6552951/Frances-Yellow-Vests-threaten-unrest-leader-arrested.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490


Organizer of Macron’s ‘grand debate’ with Yellow Vests defends her ‘shocking’ €176,000 salary
https://www.rt.com/news/448304-yellow-vest-national-debate-jouanno-salary/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome

[singular_me]

A Message of Support from the New Chartists to the British 'Gilets Jaunes'
We all know that there’s something seriously wrong with our country today and with those who are supposedly governing us. Everywhere you look, we are being scammed, deceived, defrauded and enslaved by an appalling system of governance, justice and finance – an Orwellian system of increasing centralised control that has been specifically designed to do nothing but deliberate harm to all of us whilst drowning the country in a sea of unnecessarylegislation and unlawful debt.

But the good news is that the Great Awakening has finally begun. People everywhere are now starting to stir and to wake up to this totally corrupt system and to the shenanigans of our political class and what they’re doing to deliberately destroy the sovereignty, wealth and well-being of our nation. But it’s not just our politicians who are doing this – they are simply theuseful idiots…the puppets…who rubberstamp this treason and criminality.......
https://www.newchartistmovement.org.uk/welcome/a-message-of-support-from-the-new-chartists-to-the-british-gilets-jaunes


What They're Not Telling You About the Yellow Vests - j. watson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDAjEaFPnwY

[Horn]

A Message of Support from the New Chartists to the British 'Gilets Jaunes'
We all know that there’s something seriously wrong with our country today and with those who are supposedly governing us. Everywhere you look, we are being scammed, deceived, defrauded and enslaved by an appalling system of governance, justice and finance – an Orwellian system of increasing centralised control that has been specifically designed to do nothing but deliberate harm to all of us whilst drowning the country in a sea of unnecessarylegislation and unlawful debt.

But the good news is that the Great Awakening has finally begun. People everywhere are now starting to stir and to wake up to this totally corrupt system and to the shenanigans of our political class and what they’re doing to deliberately destroy the sovereignty, wealth and well-being of our nation. But it’s not just our politicians who are doing this – they are simply theuseful idiots…the puppets…who rubberstamp this treason and criminality.......
https://www.newchartistmovement.org.uk/welcome/a-message-of-support-from-the-new-chartists-to-the-british-gilets-jaunes


What They're Not Telling You About the Yellow Vests - j. watson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDAjEaFPnwY

That's actually a pretty good article.

If you had quoted the parts about freedom of the people available to them through their MONEY!

[singular_me]

when are people going to realize that money CAUSES collusion and that there is no way to prevent it as long as profit seeking remains the agreed consensus. RIP mises, rothbard, hayek, and co... there was only one flaw but the latter is fatal.

now this said, french have balls and now can see why I have some french heritage as DNA stores memories ... but I fear that it is just another revolution for nothing if not understanding what monetarism really is

Individualism is a total hoax: There is only One Reality. That all living forms are interdependent and that we must increase our ability to deal with the Whole by remaing always extremely flexible. The powers that be have always known this and that very superior knowledge is what gives them the power to do what they do. And this means that without acknowledging the Whole, we cannot act upon anything accordingly, individually. That is the whole that commends the details... and thats a natural law


https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51260260_10212119161003663_5188593249761099776_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=ff72160fee200503f4ba555e0a17a51b&oe=5CEDB770

you are going to be hung and people will be right -- english with french subtitles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbLFo02jlH8&feature=share

CALL FOR AN UNLIMITED GENERAL STRIKE - FRANÇOIS BOULO (english subtitles)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-lpHvtsSd0

[Neuro]

when are people going to realize that money CAUSES collusion and that there is no way to prevent it as long as profit seeking remains the agreed consensus. RIP mises, rothbard, hayek, and co... there was only one flaw but the latter is fatal.

now this said, french have balls and now can see why I have some french heritage as DNA stores memories ... but I fear that it is just another revolution for nothing if not understanding what monetarism really is

Individualism is a total hoax: There is only One Reality. That all living forms are interdependent and that we must increase our ability to deal with the Whole by remaing always extremely flexible. The powers that be have always know this and that very superior knowledge is what gives them the power to do what they do. And this means that without acknowledging the Whole, we cannot act upon anything accordingly, individually. That is the whole that commends the details... and thats a natural law

Every -ism is a total hoax. To take away money to take away profit motive is however so far out in far-out land, that not even madmen extremists like Marx thought it realistic to implement. Sure it may happen in our lifetime, but it will be a temporary stage to a total systemic collapse, but it surely won’t get rid of profit motive. You can get rid of profit motive only through a heavy handed authoritarian system prohibiting it, at penalty of death. Not even then will it last for a particularly long time efficiently. Soviet communism lasted for 2 generations, most of the time it was corrupt, a form of profiteering where rules are bent on those in authority from those with resources.

What are your plans in getting people to accept a non-profit system? Obviously it isn’t something that come natural to people. As far as I can see you haven’t managed to convince a single soul here, despite harping on about it for the last 2 years... Considering you have tried profiteering upon the lives of butterflies, crowdfunding, e-books to pay for your imported ecological cocoa powder luxury consumption I find it highly unlikely that you yourself are onboard of what you say everyone should embrace.

And in that case that makes you a hypocrite! Just like Macron who according to the headline of this thread apparently think its not about the money. Must be those French hypocritical genes... ;D

[Jewboo]

now this said, french have balls and now can see why I have some french heritage as DNA stores memories ... but I fear that it is just another revolution for nothing if not understanding what monetarism really is...



https://i.ytimg.com/vi/K5Hd73K6a8M/maxresdefault.jpg

You should go on General Strike here at GSUS until that selfish millionaire Doctor Mamboni shares his wealth with you Goldi. Viva le Revolution!

:)

[singular_me]

the profit motive is destroying the planet... there are even microplastics/microfibers in human stools, fish guts and tab water/rivers now.... you are just blind to death, I am afraid.

Nature will never comply with greed, the profit motive. Anybody understanding that does not need any authority and will let go any profit motive. In fact this is atheism to believe one can dominate nature.

money INHERENTLY centralizes... leads to fascism and communism... civilization has dealt with this catch 22 for more than more than 2 millennia. Money was never invented to free people but for a top to control them...



Every -ism is a total hoax. To take away money to take away profit motive is however so far out in far-out land, that not even madmen extremists like Marx thought it realistic to implement. Sure it may happen in our lifetime, but it will be a temporary stage to a total systemic collapse, but it surely won’t get rid of profit motive. You can get rid of profit motive only through a heavy handed authoritarian system prohibiting it, at penalty of death. Not even then will it last for a particularly long time efficiently. Soviet communism lasted for 2 generations, most of the time it was corrupt, a form of profiteering where rules are bent on those in authority from those with resources.

What are your plans in getting people to accept a non-profit system? Obviously it isn’t something that come natural to people. As far as I can see you haven’t managed to convince a single soul here, despite harping on about it for the last 2 years... Considering you have tried profiteering upon the lives of butterflies, crowdfunding, e-books to pay for your imported ecological cocoa powder luxury consumption I find it highly unlikely that you yourself are onboard of what you say everyone should embrace.

And in that case that makes you a hypocrite! Just like Macron who according to the headline of this thread apparently think its not about the money. Must be those French hypocritical genes... ;D

[Neuro]

the profit motive is destroying the planet... there are even microplastics/microfibers in human stools, fish guts and tab water/rivers now.... you are just blind to death, I am afraid.

Nature will never comply with greed, the profit motive. Anybody understanding that does not need any authority and will let go any profit motive. In fact this is atheism to believe one can dominate nature.

money INHERENTLY centralizes... leads to fascism and communism... civilization has dealt with this catch 22 for more than more than 2 millennia. Money was never invented to free people but for a top to control them...
Money is related to greed as guns is related to murder. Getting rid of either will not solve the problem.

[Horn]

Money is what human society makes it, good or bad

A materially conscious conversationalist society creates good as gold money, A wasteful spendthrift society bad fiat papertree money.

its as old and part of human DNA as good/bad Wampum and cannot be detached by anyone willing it, Not even God herself.

[singular_me]

mark my words, Nature will NEVER comply with greed, the profit motive... never... it is a capital sin for a reason. A society that does not get it... is fundamentally atheistic.

voluntaryism is the only currency... as life is no commodity. that is why we are in that mess. You can blame the usual suspects all you want, they are allowed to rule because they know this truth.

The fear of death is what makes people accumulate while living. And nothing else. Fear is an illusion. It is not because the crowds never really got the right education that the lie is a Truth. Wealth accumulation -- greed -- is fear based. Evil comes this way.

You want to stand up against ((them)) but most do not have the metaphysical knowledge to do so... "materially conscious"... is impossible as long as greed is the model because greed prevents transparency and encourages collusion. A fully transparent model is a non profit society. Simple.

One cannot beat Natural Laws, they are immutable. The medium of exchange alone does not mean anything and is corrupted greed at any time. Profit motive destroys all currencies, even gold money. What HyperTiger used to say in other words.

profit motive also empowers moral relativism and cannot be stopped therefore, so corporations are inevitable.

You can claim anything you want,but the fact is that to fix the world is now BEYOND money. And this is the evidence that the medium of exchange never was the real problem but greed.

Profit motive is the deception embedded in money... catch 22. This is a battle against atheism... profit motive is also taking more than what one puts in, the law of physics are against it... and thus eventually leads to a breakdown.

I have been investigating for 5 years now and really has pondered all sides of the argument enough to see what is wrong with power/greed/money. Compassion, empathy and no coercion as a model is the only way out. The words of Jesus. And I am no bible believer per se


Money is what human society makes it, good or bad

A materially conscious conversationalist society creates good as gold money, A wasteful spendthrift society bad fiat papertree money.

its as old and part of human DNA as good/bad Wampum and cannot be detached by anyone willing it, Not even God herself.

[Neuro]

mark my words, Nature will NEVER comply with greed, the profit motive... never... it is a capital sin for a reason. A society that does not get it... is fundamentally atheistic.

voluntaryism is the only currency... as life is no commodity. that is why we are in that mess. You can blame the usual suspects all you want, they are allowed to rule because they know this truth.

The fear of death is what makes people accumulate while living. And nothing else. Fear is an illusion. It is not because the crowds never really got the right education that the lie is a Truth. Wealth accumulation -- greed -- is fear based. Evil comes this way.

You want to stand up against ((them)) but most do not have the metaphysical knowledge to do so... "materially conscious"... is impossible as long as greed is the model because greed prevents transparency and encourages collusion. A fully transparent model is a non profit society. Simple.

One cannot beat Natural Laws, they are immutable. The medium of exchange alone does not mean anything and is corrupted greed at any time. Profit motive destroys all currencies, even gold money. What HyperTiger used to say in other words.

profit motive also empowers moral relativism and cannot be stopped therefore, so corporations are inevitable.

You can claim anything you want,but the fact is that to fix the world is now BEYOND money. And this is the evidence that the medium of exchange never was the real problem but greed.

Profit motive is the deception embedded in money... catch 22.

This is a battle against atheism...

According to Christianity greed is a deadly sin, Talmudism is pre-occupied with maximizing profit, but your employers prefer you use the term atheists (limited talmudism for goyim), which takes the blame away.

Then they want you to promote the idea that money is the problem, and the insane idea of getting rid of the medium of exchange would get rid of greed, lust, gluttony. Of course no sane person thinks that the problem is a medium of exchange, or even making a decent living on your trade, but where you instead abuse nature, animals and people around you to gain more than you deserve. But by introducing the idea that money is the problem, you are actually diverting the attention from those that are the problem. The greedy (((MONEYCHANGERS))).

[singular_me]

what defines a decent living ? your argument is based on moral relativism instead of human birthrights.

money changers love us to chase money because unlike many they master reality and perceptions, promote wealth accumulation... greed which is the result of taking more than what one puts in. In fact everybody is greedy, some way more than others. And that is mainly why the system is unsustainable. Because value is stretchable since the mind dictates value. not demand. Materialistic flaws von mises had understood later in life. A bad news and stocks go down. You just cannot have any system that is sustainable under these conditions. One must be irrational to not address and fix that because Earth is now in critical conditions. Meaning that we are all interconnected.

any monetary system needs to induce artificial consumption, support credit and maintain a lack of transparency for the few to prosper.
when profit seeking rules the game, there is a conflict between output and input, because demand is created artificially, advertising, and that value is subjective as it always is inflated by speculation or lack thereof.

this is the shabby secret of all booms and busts. gold standard tulip mania comes to mind. Addressing all these flaws means that we would have a zero profit economy, nobody being able to cash in more than another, should money continue to exist.

the other solution is throwing in the towel

i see way beyond the economic cliches because I understand what the money changers understand, and unfortunately you are stuck in your paradigm.. clueless about the true nature of reality

[Horn]

what defines a decent living ? your argument is based on moral relativism instead of human birthrights.

The inclusion of money into human dna was no doubt born out of The World's Oldest Profession, and Adam the one who gave the apple.

To wit, any Eve may have been guilty within her rights to demand a full week's worth of apples.
.
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^Priceless :)

[singular_me]

funny Horn... as for your "gun example", it is yet again moral relativism because weapons as a whole have always been used for wars and genocides. The self-defense argument is a half-truth, which is why it does not work. You can have today all the guns you want, EMF and radiowaves or HAARP, nanotech, ect are almost inescapable. So what? That is why I came back from my off the grid lifestyle and am now ready to stand up. There is nothing else to do. You are either with God or evil

SYSTEMIC FLAWS
1 subjectivity of value
2 distortion between input vs output
3 artificial demand
4 lack of transparency
5 profit seeking mantra/greed
6 stock market pump and dump
7 currency war/manipulation
8 collusion
9 money worship (thinking it can buy freedom)
10 dumbing down of the masses
11 coercive competition

all the above flaws work toward doomsday
fix them all, and nobody would ever make any profit anymore... ever never... so from there, a money-free system is very rational

And on top of that the Universe only goes by personal responsibility and the respect for creation, the foundation of Reality... ((they)) have to tell us what ((they) are going to do, so that they can obtain our consent, ((they)) are even manipulating the Law of Cause and Effect.

like I said: hold on to your bible, the (milliennia old predictive programing) Revelation is on our doorsteps.

Our situation is exteremly dire.

If I were you, I'd listen to MPH's lectures: The Love Of God, The Love Of Nature, The Love of Truth, The Redemptive Power of Love, Human Love, The Love of Beauty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWWdLlLvedY&list=PLACixZkUG8so7bIR_Y77RWoFtJhbT1EIk


The inclusion of money into human dna was no doubt born out of The World's Oldest Profession, and Adam the one who gave the apple.

To wit, any Eve may have been guilty within her rights to demand a full week's worth of apples.
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^Priceless :)

[Horn]

Weapons?

Mine is a Holy Muscle of Love! :)

[old steel]

Mine is a case full of holy hand grenades.