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Cebu_4_2
12th December 2018, 04:53 PM
City Gives AR-15 Owners December Deadline To Submit to Rifle Count
DECEMBER 11, 2018 AT 3:46Pm
It sounds like the beginning of a dystopian horror film: the government telling citizens to line up and have their firearms counted, or face severe disciplinary action.
For residents of Boulder, Colorado, this nightmare scenario is all too real.
In May, the city council voted to ban possession of high-capacity magazines, bump stocks and so-called assault rifles. Residents would be barred from selling these items as well. With the prospect of door-to-door confiscation apparently too much of a hassle, the city decided to grandfather in people who already legally owned the rifles.
There’s only one catch.
To continue legally owning an AR-15 or other assault rifle, gun owners are required to “certify” their gun with the Boulder police. Authorities have declared a Dec. 27 deadline for certifications. After that, any resident owning an assault rifle will be in major legal trouble.
TRENDING: City Gives AR-15 Owners December Deadline To Submit to Rifle Count (https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/city-gives-ar-15-deadline/?ff_source=facebook&ff_medium=thenewvoice&ff_campaign=can&ff_content=2018-12-12)
The Daily Camera (http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_32303322/) reported the punishment can range from a simple fine to imprisonment and destruction of the firearm.
Problems with the law’s implementation are already starting to arise.
Although the police claim they will not be making a database of gun owners, the number of rifles brought forward is being recorded by authorities.
Out of the city’s 100,000-strong population, only 87 have stepped forward to certify their assault rifles. Police admit duplicate certificates exist in their count, so the actual number is even lower than that.
CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/gun-ownership-rates-by-state/31/) puts gun ownership in Colorado at a little over 34 percent. Assuming the city of Boulder has roughly the same rate as the rest of the state, this means there are still around 34,000 firearms that remain uncertified.
To put this in perspective, the state’s own Army National Guard has only 5,300 uniformed members (https://co.ng.mil/About/Force-Structure/). Actual enforcement of this law would understandably not go over very well.
Fortunately, our country does not seem to be at the point of outright door-to-door confiscation, no matter how close the left is edging toward it.
Residents are not being left to fend for themselves, thanks to a pro-Second Amendment law group.
The Colorado State Shooting Association, along with support from the NRA’s Institute for Legal Action (https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180614/nra-backs-challenge-to-boulder-gun-ban), has taken aim at the unconstitutional law. The groups are both fighting to protect citizens’ right to protect themselves from both criminals and government tyranny.
RELATED: Man Shoots Dog Attacking Him; Cops Respond by Confiscating His Pistol, Shotgun and Ammo ‘for Safekeeping’ (https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/man-shoots-dog-attacking-cops-respond-confiscating-pistol-shotgun-ammo-safekeeping/?ff_source=facebook&ff_medium=thenewvoice&ff_campaign=can&ff_content=2018-12-12)
Once the ultimatum date arrives, it’s unclear what steps authorities will take.
With the city’s deadline approaching fast, legal gun owners may be weeks away from becoming unwitting fugitives from the law.
End Times
12th December 2018, 05:07 PM
Sure would be a shame if some Second Amendment defenders simply used those "illegal" tools...
midnight rambler
12th December 2018, 05:37 PM
our country does not seem to be at the point of outright door-to-door confiscation
So called 'red flag laws' are the camel's nose under the tent.
steyr_m
12th December 2018, 08:43 PM
As bad as you think it might be there. Remember, it can always be worse. Like where I live.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/404022-trudeau-asks-canadian-government-to-study-full-ban-on-handguns-and
End Times
12th December 2018, 09:11 PM
As bad as you think it might be there. Remember, it can always be worse. Like where I live.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/404022-trudeau-asks-canadian-government-to-study-full-ban-on-handguns-and
The difference is the Second Amendment. That "Charter of Rights and Freedoms" you have has never had more meaning than the Soviet Constitution.
monty
15th December 2018, 09:10 AM
Red flag gun laws, mandatory rifle counts, high capacity magazine bans, now New Jersy will conduct door to door siezure of “illegal’ magazines violating the 2nd and 4th amendments of the Constitution. The 2nd Amendment’s well regulated Militia of the several States was WE THE PEOPLE’s mechanism to enforce the Constitution. That was abandoned more than 100 years ago because it was easier to let the state govern us than to govern ourselves. Time has come to face the consequences.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-13/new-jersey-declares-war-its-residents-plans-door-door-gun-confiscation-campaign
New Jersey Declares War On Its Residents: Plans Door-To-Door Gun Confiscation Campaign
Authored by Mike Adams via NaturalNews.com, (https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-12-12-nj-state-police-to-launch-nazi-style-door-to-door-gun-magazine-confiscation-campaign-at-gunpoint.html)
A New Jersey law that makes it a felony to possess a gun magazine capable of holding over 10 rounds of ammunition is now active.
This wildly unconstitutional law instantly criminalizes hundreds of thousands of New Jersey citizens who legally acquired normal capacity firearms magazines - which include 17-round pistol magazines and 30-round rifle magazines - as tools of self-defense against the very same violent criminals that are protected by the Democrats who passed the gun magazine ban.
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/gun-confiscation-e1531755242199_2.jpg?itok=PgSZSdTo
Now, the New Jersey State Police have told Breitbart News they won’t rule out “house-to-house enforcement” of the new magazine ban, meaning they plan to conduct house-to-house arrests and gun magazine confiscations. These Nazi-style anti-gun operations will, of course, be carried out at gunpoint, further underscoring the entire purpose of the Second Amendment and the need for citizens to arm themselves with 30-round magazines to defend against government tyranny.
Breitbart News contacted New Jersey State Police on Monday to ask how they planned to enforce the newly enacted ban, reports Breitbart.com (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/11/nj-state-police-refuse-to-rule-out-house-to-house-enforcement-of-high-capacity-magazine-ban/#axzz5ZRRv3NKA).
“The NJ State Police refused to rule out house-to-house checks. Rather, they responded: ‘We do not discuss enforcement strategies.'”
The very reason citizens need 30-round magazines is because the government wants to use coercion and the threat of violence to take away their legally-acquired firearms and magazines. If citizens surrender 30-round magazines, the next step will be New Jersey banning all magazines, followed by the banning of all semi-automatic firearms. Almost overnight, citizens of New Jersey will find themselves living under an authoritarian regime of pure tyranny and lawlessness… with no means to defend themselves against the state, which will then have a monopoly on effective firearms.
This is a repeat of Nazi Germany, which disarmed the Jews before mass murdering six million of them. It’s so much easier to murder people, after all, when the government disarms them first. And anyone going along with the disarmament is signing their own death warrant.
The purpose of the magazine ban is to make sure citizens can’t shoot back when the authoritarian government comes to take ALL their guns
The entire purpose of the gun magazine ban, of course, is to make sure that innocent citizens are unable to shoot back when the government sends gun confiscation teamson door-to-door raids, gunning down citizens and taking their firearms by force. Anyone who knows history will immediately realize that New Jersey is walking down the path of Stalinist Russia or Hitler’s Germany, weaponizing the power of corrupt government to disarm the very people that government will later target for mass arrests and mass murder.
Have no illusions: The aim of all Leftists in government is the establish an authoritarian government regime that holds a monopoly over all firepower, ruling over disarmed citizens who are taxed to death, silenced by the tech giants and criminalized for seeking to defend their own nation against tyranny. This will be combined with open borders policies that flood the nation with violent criminal illegal aliens who will all be granted absolute legal immunity from their crimes, even while American citizens are arrested and imprisoned for merely exercising their Second Amendment rights.
As the Founding Fathers repeatedly noted, all citizens of America have a constitutional duty to resist unconstitutional, illegal “laws” that deprive them of their constitutional rights. Just because New Jersey passes a magazine ban doesn’t mean the New Jersey government has the rightful authority to assert such a restriction. The right to keep and bear arms implies the right to keep and bear the ammunition and magazines required for those arms to function. In passing the gun magazine ban, New Jersey lawmakers prove that they are lawless tyrants who have zero regard for the Bill of Rights, the right of self-defense or the safety of citizens in their own homes. It also underscores why such tyrants must be removed from power by the voters and prevented from destroying the civil rights of the people.
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/Branco-No-Civility-600.jpg?itok=KPDxP-0F
How much blood are New Jersey State Police willing to shed to establish their dictatorial regime of absolute power?
All this raises an important question: How much blood are New Jersey State Police officers willing to shed in order to establish absolute power over the (disarmed) citizens? And who, exactly, is suicidal enough to run these door-to-door confiscation raids, demanding citizens turn over the very hardware they need to defend themselves against New Jersey government tyrants?
It now appears that New Jersey State Police are gearing up to wage mass shootings of gun owners who resist the magazine ban. This will all be carried out, of course, in the name of “public safety.” Thus, the government will engage in mass shootings while claiming to be stopping mass shootings. Such is the new tyranny of the deranged, lawless Left which believes no citizen should have the right to defend themselves against the wave of violent illegal alien criminals those very same Leftists want to see flood across the open border and invade U.S. cities.
This is the new reality is living under the tyrannical rule of Democrats who despise America and are doing everything in their power to destroy the nation and criminalize its patriots. If you dare attempt to defend yourself with a 30-round magazine against a group of illegal alien human traffickers who all have their own 30-round magazines, suddenly you are the criminal while the illegal aliens receive “sanctuary” status. Yes, it’s beyond insane, but this is precisely what left-wing lunacy has delivered in America. Now in New Jersey, no citizen is allowed to defend herself against violence, even as the state becomes a tool of violence against the citizens. Don’t forget, either, that under Barack Obama, the entire deep state apparatus, including the FBI and DOJ, was weaponized to spy on the Trump campaign, frame campaign officials for “crimes” and violate the civil rights of Trump associates via FISA warrants which were achieved using astonishing levels of deception and abuse of government power.
The government is a weapon against the people of America, and right now it’s only President Trump holding back the full force of tyranny that seeks to eviscerate any last shred of both the First and Second Amendments.
We must all now realize that the New Jersey government is waging war against its own citizens while protecting illegal aliens from prosecution. Thus, the government of New Jersey has, without question, become the enemy of the People. It won’t be long, I’d imagine, before we see New Jersey resistance groups designating New Jersey lawmakers as “enemy combatants” who have declared war on the people of New Jersey.
No good can come of this
A state government that believes it can assert the power to criminally arrest its own citizens for possessing legally-acquired “normal capacity” magazines must also believe it has the power to confiscate all guns, too. Thus, it’s only a matter of time before New Jersey lawmakers decide that no citizen should be allowed to own any gun at all. When that day comes — and it isn’t far off — will the law-abiding citizens of New Jersey do what they’re told and turn in all their guns, too?
Every government will take more and more power until it is forced to stop. There is no such thing as a government that has “enough” power. Its bureaucrats are forever hungry for more power, and they will continue to strip power from the citizens for as long as they can get away with it. The rise of tyranny is an inescapable human vector — a concentration of power that only snowballs into increasingly dangerous levels of tyranny and authoritarianism. Only when citizens stand up and say “Enough!” will bureaucrats ever back down and be humbled.
New Jersey is marching down the path of Stalinist authoritarianism. Have no illusions that New Jersey State Police will carry 30-round magazines, not 10-round magazines. The entire point of this magazine confiscation program is to incrementally disarm the citizenry and make sure that when the NJ government launches its all-out war on pro-2A citizens, those citizens are at a severe disadvantage in terms of magazine capacity. It’s so much easier to win a war, after all, if you force your enemy to carry 10-round magazines. And from the point of view of New Jersey lawmakers, the people are their enemy. YOU are already an “enemy combatant” in the eyes of NJ Democrats.
Giving up your 30-round magazines, in other words, is tantamount to surrendering to tyranny. No lawful government would ever attempt to take away your rifle mags. The very fact that New Jersey is going down this path proves that NJ bureaucrats plan to do much more in the near future. Ultimately, they don’t want the citizens to have any means to defend themselves whatsoever.
First they came for the magazines, and we turned those in to comply with the law.
Then they came for the guns, and we turned those in, too, to comply with the law.
Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me (and no means to defend myself against lawless tyranny).
JDRock
15th December 2018, 09:24 AM
Geography is imo, the FIRST consideration on survival. Why people choose to live in shitholes like boulder and berkley and then act surprised when shithole laws are passed by shitolian leaders! Its like living in a negro neighborhood and acting shocked when the simian beasts attack without provocation!
Jewboo
15th December 2018, 10:02 AM
New Jersey will conduct door to door seizure of “illegal’ magazines violating the 2nd and 4th amendments of the Constitution.
This is silly hyperbole. They have no way of knowing who owns any type of magazine. Door-to-door search ?
Get real...lol.
End Times
15th December 2018, 01:11 PM
“At what exact point, then, should one resist? When one’s belt is taken away? When one is ordered to face into a corner? When one crosses the threshold of one’s home?...”
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?...The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!”
-- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago, 1918-1956
YOU, American! You are blessed beyond imagination over the Soviet subject who had merely make-do melee weapons to resist.
End Times
15th December 2018, 01:20 PM
This is silly hyperbole....Door-to-door search ?
Get real...lol.
The source of that claim is the Butt Ranger, Mike Adams.
NJ State Police: ‘No Plans to Go Door-to-Door’ to Enforce Magazine Ban
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/11/nj-state-police-no-plans-to-go-door-to-door-to-enforce-magazine-ban/
However...
They have no way of knowing who owns any type of magazine.
Uh, think again.
Most people didn't pay with cash.
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.html?pagewanted=all
Paying with plastic leaves a permanent record. 4473s are also a permanent record, and anyone who thinks the Federal regime doesn't have all that data at their fingertips is a fool. Most guns come new with (a) standard capacity magazine(s). Right there in the BATF's computers.
monty
15th December 2018, 01:23 PM
This is silly hyperbole. They have no way of knowing who owns any type of magazine. Door-to-door search ?
Get real...lol.[/SIZE]
Don’t shoot the messenger. Clik bait headlines get lots of readers
And as MR noted, the camel has his nose under the tent.
https://truepundit.com/new-jersey-declares-war-on-its-residents-plans-door-to-door-gun-confiscation-campaign/
Now, the New Jersey State Police have told Breitbart News they won’t rule out “house-to-house enforcement” of the new magazine ban, meaning they plan to conduct house-to-house arrests and gun magazine confiscations. These Nazi-style anti-gun operations will, of course, be carried out at gunpoint, further underscoring the entire purpose of the Second Amendment and the need for citizens to arm themselves with 30-round magazines to defend against government tyranny.
Breitbart News contacted New Jersey State Police on Monday to ask how they planned to enforce the newly enacted ban, reports Breitbart.com.
“The NJ State Police refused to rule out house-to-house checks. Rather, they responded: ‘We do not discuss enforcement strategies.’” – READ MORE (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-13/new-jersey-declares-war-its-residents-plans-door-door-gun-confiscation-campaign)
monty
15th December 2018, 01:33 PM
New Jersey citizens aren’t complying with the new law
https://www.ammoland.com/2018/12/new-jersey-magazine-ban-goes-into-effect/?fbclid=IwAR2L3AR0jrNFokbbns9Xxy3B6bclOScJuwhACiB9 PkBEngcBnBb_fBB1tiE#axzz5ZgDaD7aT
Million Plus NJ Gun Owners Defy State Law, Refuse to Turn Over Banned Gun Mags
Ammoland Inc. Posted on December 14, 2018 (https://www.ammoland.com/2018/12/new-jersey-magazine-ban-goes-into-effect/) by John Crump (https://www.ammoland.com/author/johncrump/)
Opinion
Over one million New Jersey Gun owners defy Governor Murphy's gun magazine ban & turn in demands of what some estimate is easily more than ten million now illegal standard capacity gun mags.
https://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Fuck-New-Jersey-600x406.jpg?1178d5
Million Plus NJ Gun Owners Defy State Law, Refuse to Turn Over Banned Gun MagsNew Jersey –-(Ammoland.com)- (https://www.ammoland.com/) New Jersey's standard capacity magazine ban is now in effect making New Jersey's one million gun owners criminals in the eyes of the state. But in an act of mass definace, New Jersey residents refuse to comply.
Any magazine holding more than ten rounds is now illegal in the Garden State. The standard magazine for an AR-15 holds 30 rounds. Glock 19s, which is the most popular pistol in the United States, holds 15 rounds. Anyone who is possession of larger magazine is committing a fourth-degree felony.
Anyone caught with one of the now banned magazines in their possession faces up to 18 months in prison and up to $10,000 in fines or both for each magazine found.
The bill was signed into law last June by Gov. Phil Murphy (D). Residents had until December 11th, 2018, to turn over magazines to police or sell or store them out of state.
Pro-gun groups sued New Jersey to try to prevent the law from going into effect. Their attempt on blocking the law failed in a federal appeals court. The three-judge panel ruled (https://www.ammoland.com/2018/12/third-circuit-tells-gun-owners-turn-in-gun-magazines/) that a law limiting the number of rounds a magazine holds did not violate the US Constitution and did not put an undue burden on New Jersey gun owners.
“New Jersey’s law reasonably fits the State’s interest in public safety and does not unconstitutionally burden the Second Amendment’s right to self-defense in the home,” the court wrote in their decision. “The law also does not violate the Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause because it does not require gun owners to surrender their magazines but instead allows them to retain modified magazines or register firearms that have magazines that cannot be modified.”
AG Gurbir Grewal applauded the ruling on Twitter stating: “This just in: for months, individuals have been challenging NJ’s limits on large capacity magazines—a sensible law to address mass shootings. Today, the court of appeals upheld the law. Big win for public safety and law enforcement safety!”
Residents of New Jersey on various message boards have called the magazine ban unenforceable. Some were going as far as laughing at Gov. Murphy and his attempt at regulating magazine size.
New Jersey is not saying how they plan to enforce the ban on standard capacity magazines. Gov. Murphy's office referred AmmoLand to the New Jersey Attorney General's office. The AG's office refused to comment.
Sharon Lauchaire, Director of Communications for the Office the Attorney General told AmmoLand: “We do not discuss law enforcement strategies.”
AmmoLand's sources within the New Jersey State Police that spoke on a condition of anonymity stated that they had not received any guidance on how to enforce the ban from the AG’s office. They said that there is currently no plan to investigate gun owners suspected of having the now banned magazines.
According to the source, the plan that has been discussed among officers is only to file charges against people who are guilty of other crimes. This plan might change once superiors give guidance on how to enforce the ban.
AmmoLand reached out to several local police departments in New Jersey to see how they plan on enforcing the ban and what the turn in numbers have been? Much like the New Jersey State Police, none of these departments have a concrete plan on how to proactively enforce the ban and none had a single report of magazines turned over.
From all Reports, NO Mags Turned In, Governor Murphy & His Law are Joke
AmmoLand also asked the Governor's office what Gov. Murphy thinks of users on the internet saying that the ban is unenforceable and laughing at the Governor's attempt at regulating magazine sizes.
Gov. Murphy and his office refused to comment on these gun owner's opinions.
AmmoLand also asked Gov. Murphy's office about the number of magazines turned in by New Jersey residents. Once again AmmoLand was referred to the New Jersey Attorney General's office.
In this case, Lauchaire would not offer a comment and referred AmmoLand to the New Jersey State Police. Lauchaire stated she was aware of AmmoLand's previous inquire to the State Police on the number of magazines turned in meaning that State Police contacted the AG’s office about our request for information.
The New Jersey State Police have not officially responded to our request on the number of magazines that were turned over by citizens.
Two sources from within the State Police, who spoke to AmmoLand on condition of anonymity, told AmmoLand News that they both do not know of any magazines turned over to their agency and doubted that any were turned in. They also stated that the State Police also engaged the AG's office for guidance on how to respond to inquiries such as ours. They were unaware if the Attorney General has returned to their request for guidance.
All the local police departments that AmmoLand contacted stated that they have not had any magazines turned into them.
AmmoLand has filed a Freedom of Information Act request with The New Jersey State Police to get an official count of the number of magazines turned in by New Jersey citizens. We will update the story if our FOIA request is fulfilled.
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John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. He is the former CEO of Veritas Firearms, LLC and is the co-host of The Patriot News Podcast which can be found at www.blogtalkradio.com/patriotnews (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/patriotnews). John has written extensively on the patriot movement including 3%'ers, Oath Keepers, and Militias. In addition to the Patriot movement, John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and is currently working on a book on leftist deplatforming methods (http://deplatforming.com/) and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss (https://twitter.com/crumpyss), on Facebook at realjohncrump (https://fb.com/realjohncrump), or at www.crumpy.com (http://www.crumpy.com/).
End Times
15th December 2018, 01:36 PM
Anyone caught with one of the now banned magazines in their possession faces up to 18 months in prison and up to $10,000 in fines or both for each magazine found.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ9w1HHRMQw
monty
15th December 2018, 01:48 PM
The source of that claim is the Butt Ranger, Mike Adams.
NJ State Police: ‘No Plans to Go Door-to-Door’ to Enforce Magazine Ban
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/12/11/nj-state-police-no-plans-to-go-door-to-door-to-enforce-magazine-ban/
However...
Uh, think again.
Most people didn't pay with cash.
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/magazine/shopping-habits.html?pagewanted=all
Paying with plastic leaves a permanent record. 4473s are also a permanent record, and anyone who thinks the Federal regime doesn't have all that data at their fingertips is a fool. Most guns come new with (a) standard capacity magazine(s). Right there in the BATF's computers.
They ammended the statute to include law enforcement
https://i.postimg.cc/nL4yZYb2/DDF395-B3-E834-449-D-846-F-9554-C55-D6-DB4.jpg
End Times
15th December 2018, 01:51 PM
They ammended the statute to include law enforcement
https://i.postimg.cc/nL4yZYb2/DDF395-B3-E834-449-D-846-F-9554-C55-D6-DB4.jpg
Clearly the fucks in Trenton are dangerously insane. Applying "the Law" to cops?! Wow, that's going to go over very well...with the only means by which the Trenton Criminals stay in power.
monty
15th December 2018, 01:54 PM
The unconstitutional high capacity magazine ban was upheld by the US Circuit Court of Appeals
https://giffords.org/2018/12/third-circuit-lcm-nj/
GIFFORDS LAW CENTER APPLAUDS THIRD CIRCUIT FOR UPHOLDING NEW JERSEY BAN OF LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINESPress Release (https://giffords.org/category/press-release/)December 5, 2018
End Times
15th December 2018, 01:58 PM
The unconstitutional high capacity magazine ban was upheld by the US Circuit Court of Appeals
https://giffords.org/2018/12/third-circuit-lcm-nj/
GIFFORDS LAW CENTER APPLAUDS THIRD CIRCUIT FOR UPHOLDING NEW JERSEY BAN OF LARGE-CAPACITY MAGAZINESPress Release (https://giffords.org/category/press-release/)December 5, 2018
Gee, what a surprise. When Federal priests in black dresses override the President of the United States, what can we expect when it comes to Second Amendment rights of we mere peons?
JDRock
15th December 2018, 02:51 PM
Retarded
Jewboo
15th December 2018, 04:03 PM
They amended the statute to include law enforcement
Good.
:D
steyr_m
16th December 2018, 01:18 PM
The difference is the Second Amendment. That "Charter of Rights and Freedoms" you have has never had more meaning than the Soviet Constitution.
Yeah, but the 2A is all the US has left. I still can't wait to move back....
madfranks
16th December 2018, 02:36 PM
They ammended the statute to include law enforcement
https://i.postimg.cc/nL4yZYb2/DDF395-B3-E834-449-D-846-F-9554-C55-D6-DB4.jpg
Ahem... "unless traveling to or from places of duty."
Believe it, if ever an off-duty cop gets caught and questioned, they'll simply say, "Well, I am on my way to/from the precinct office." How would anyone be able to prove otherwise?
End Times
16th December 2018, 06:49 PM
Ahem... "unless traveling to or from places of duty."
Believe it, if ever an off-duty cop gets caught and questioned, they'll simply say, "Well, I am on my way to/from the precinct office." How would anyone be able to prove otherwise?
"Professional courtesy." No need to prove it; taken on faith of a fellow Blue Cult brother.
madfranks
17th December 2018, 08:37 AM
"Professional courtesy." No need to prove it; taken on faith of a fellow Blue Cult brother.
Of course, so the whole "at least they're applying it to law enforcement too" argument is for all practical purposes bunk.
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