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I've been meaning to get a copy for a while now, but haven't felt like spending $50 or $60 on one.
The other day I found a copy at my local used bookstore for $7!
I bought it and have since been reading through it and so far it is not what I imagined it would be.
It's pretty damn interesting so far - and I'm a non-mason (and if anything, an anti-mason)!
Has anyone here actually read it?
Or do any masons wanna out themselves? lol
I want to read this and also Manly Hall.
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Originally Posted by palani
Hahaha!
I have a PDF of it somewhere on my computer, but I prefer reading physical books. Call me old-fashioned!
;D
is there no help for the widow's son?
They are illuminating books that offer some history, a solid perspective and some good advice and some dated ideas. Some better than the ones offered up for public consumption.
The will to create, and techniques for it, is not an evil thing in itself. Evil is a result and intent of its use. And the wisdom of 'your will'. And entropy of course.
People are taught how to manifest their will, or not. If not, to accept another's will or drift (much more common). Those who are taught not to manifest their will tend to think any manifestation of will as potential evil. Perhaps as a sheep likes harmony in the herd as understanding is not required for peace of mind.
I'll agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by keehah
Anyway, I just finished reading Morals & Dogma the other day and it is (while redundant and loquacious) exceedingly interesting.
People like to quote the bit about Lucifer on page 321, but for someone who is not tied to any particular dogmatic religion, but who acknowledges the existence of something or some Force "higher/greater than oneself", the contents of the book are not really objectionable.
The ideas in Morals & Dogma are basically a synthesis or distillation of all the so-called great teachings or religions and mystery schools of the ages.
It is no doubt a philosophical as well as theosophical work.
I have doubts as to how many current Masons have read the book, or are at all familiar with the ideas and thoughts it contains.
The Blue Degrees [first, second and third] are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine that he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry (the 28th degree and beyond)."
M&D PP 819
Both Hall and Pike both serve the same Master = Satan
If you become a mason, Pike's book is required reading
I found that bit interesting as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Twisted Titan
Freemasonry, with its rituals and ceremonies and symbols, seeks to emulate the manner in which the ancient mystery schools taught the mysteries.
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Magism was the Science of Abraham and Orpheus, of Confucius and Zoroaster. It was the dogmas of this Science that were engraven on the tables of stone by Enoch and Trismegistus. Moses purified and re-veiled them, for that is the meaning of the word reveal. He covered them with a new veil, when he made of the Holy Kabbalah the exclusive heritage of the people of Israel, and the inviolable Secret of its priests. The Mysteries of Thebes and Eleusis preserved among the nations some symbols of it, already altered, and the mysterious key whereof was lost among the instruments of an ever-growing superstition. Jerusalem, the murderess of her prophets, and so often prostituted to the false gods of the Syrians and Babylonians, had at length in its turn lost the Holy Word, when a Prophet announced by the Magi by the consecrated Star of Initiation [Sirius], came to rend asunder the worn veil of the old Temple, in order to give the Church a new tissue of legends and symbols, that still and ever conceal from the Profane, and ever preserves to the Elect the same truths.
I have an actual copy of morals and dgoma at home, in my possession, but I am reading about 4 books right now simultaniously, so who knows when I will sit down and read the actual works of a luciferian anti-Christian?
I have read a few books that dissect Pikes Ms&D book, but I know that I have to read the source itself.
I would disagree with you on your synopsis though. It is hell-bent on the destruction of Christianity, using "Reason" and "Superstition" to lead people away from Christ.
I will post more in this thread to discuss with you, but I just posted a lengthy post in a similair thread and I'm burnt out on it right now.
EDITED for typos and clarity.
The intro to Morals & Dogma says that masons may believe the book in part, completely, or not at all. Pike didn't pretend to speak for all masons (even though he was head poobah of the Southern Jurisdiction USA for a few decades).Quote:
Originally Posted by Awoke
For what it's worth, Pike considered himself a "trinitarian christian". I was surprised too.
Here are some snippets from here and there:
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Speak kindly to your erring brother! God pities him; Christ has died for him; Providence waits for him; Heavens mercy yearns toward him; and Heavens spirits are ready to welcome him back with joy. (Morals & Dogma p.134)
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Masonry does not pretend to be a religion; but it is not irreligious or irreverent. It does not assume to take the place of any religion, or claim to make religion unnecessary. To charge it with this is to libel it. It requires its initiates to believe in one God and a Divine Providence, and that the soul survives the dissolution of the body. Thus it teaches those great primary truths on which all religion must repose; and it inculcates those principles of pure morality which have commended themselves to the good and wise of all ages." (Albert Pike Ritual for the Reception of a Louveteau p.14)
SirGonzo, what you are posting I can find on pro masonic sites, I been reading since 2007.
Like this one. You are actually posting what is on there, read it.
Are these your ideas you posted or you read them online from pro mason sites ?
http://www.masonicinfo.com/lucifer.htm
I have masonic books , banned, Awoke and I even shared some of them in PM,
and skykike banned us for that. I posted that screen of him talking about scientology.
And who thanked him, monkey trolls and his little agents.
I have posted screens from these books, Jah Bul On, very revealing, demon gods.
Pike ain't no Christian, what do you expect him to say to his target audience that is
Christian, first they hook you.
Pike is a very sinister character.
His methods and masonry methods we can see in MSM and disinfo today.
Albert Pike
QUOTES BY ALBERT PIKE, Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council 33rd Degree, Ku Klux Klan ritual designer, Ku Klux Klan Chief Judicial Officer and Arkansas Ku Klux Klan Grand Dragon
"Lucifer, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the spirit of darkness! Lucifer, The Son of The Morning! [Here Pike is denying Christ as the Light of the world and giving that designation to Lucifer, the Devil] Is it he who bears the light . .? Doubt it Not!" (Pike, op. cit., p. 321. See also A Ralph Epperson, The Unseen Hand: An Introduction to the Conspiratorial View of History, Tucson, Arizona, Publius Press, 1985, p. 224).
On July 14, 1889, Pike gave instructions to the 23 Supreme Councils of the World: "That which we must say to the crowd is, We worship a God, but it is the god that one adores without superstition. To you Sovereign Grand Inspectors General (the name of the 33rd degree, the highest degree known to the world in Scottish Rite Masonry), we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st, and 30th degrees. The Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the Luciferian Doctrine . . . Yes, Lucifer is God . . . the pure philosophical religion is the belief in Lucifer . . . Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good . . ." (Decker, op. cit., p. 6). With this admission, is it any wonder that Pike is called the "Pontiff of Luciferian Freemasonry" (Waite, op. cit., Vol. II, p. 253)?
"Nothing excites men's curiosity so much as Mystery, concealing things which they desire to know; and nothing so much increases curiosity as obstacles that interpose to prevent them from indulging in the gratification of their desires. Of this the Legislators and Hierophants took advantage, to attract the people to their sanctuaries, and to induce them to seek to obtain lessons from which they would perhaps have turned away with indifference if they had been pressed upon them." (Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 384).
"So Masonry jealously conceals its secrets and intentionally leads conceited interpreters astray . . . If you have been disappointed in the first three degrees, as you have received them . . . remember that . . . symbols were used, not to reveal but to conceal . . . The symbols and ceremonies of Masonry have more than one meaning. They rather conceal than disclose the Truth" (Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma,pp. 105-106; 148).
"The Blue Degrees (the first three degrees of Masonry) are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their True explication is reserved for the Adepts (those who have advanced to the highest degrees in Masonry) . . . It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain (and any past Mason who has learned the truth, knows the almost complete futility in trying to enlighten his fellow Mason as to truth. For they have been so completely indoctrinated they will not listen, nor examine the evidence presented to them) . . . " (Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, p. 819).
"Masonry, like all the [man-made organised] Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it. Truth is not for those who are unworthy or unable to receive it, or would pervert it. . . . So Masonry jealously conceals its secrets, and intentionally leads conceited interpreters astray" (Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, pp. 104-105).
The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is NOT a black God..... but the negation of God.... the Devil is the personification of Atheism ....or Idolatry. For the 'Initiates', this is not a person, but a Force, created for GOOD, but which may serve for evil. IT..is the instrument of Liberty or Free Will. They represent this Force, which presides over the physical generation, under the mythological and horned form of the God Pan; thence came the He-Goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Ancient Serpent, and the Light-bearer or Phosphor, of which the poets have made the false Lucifer of the legend. (Albert Pike: Morals and Dogma, p. 172).
Have you ever read the book?Quote:
Originally Posted by MAGNES
I read it, and while a christian might find it objectionable, I don't. I am not a freemason, but a relative of mine is a 32nd degree and he had never read Pike's book or anything like it. Masonry is used today as a power structure; a network.
There is nothing in Morals & Dogma to suggest Satan worship.
Pike's book seems to be more of a synthesis of buddhism and kabbalah, with other bits from various mystery schools thrown in.
I DO however see how the Hegelian dialectic fits in with Pike's affinity for duality/trinity...
All of Masonry is anti Christian, ritual , manipulation, deceit and demon worship.
Some have described Pike as a brilliant writer and poet, may be true, but that is not a
proof of how good of a guy he is. They don't come out and tell you outright what you
are joining, nor do most know even after they join, Pike himself is part of that deceit,
and has contempt for his fellow masons. Like Lenin, " useful idiots " .
Even MP on gim refused to defend Pike, " he was out there " .
Masonic oaths automatically disqualify you from public office of trust.
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http://i53.tinypic.com/33cvkw7.jpg
I don't have a hard copy, I do have more than one copy in PDF form.Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420
And many mason books written by and for masons, and first hand accounts.
I suspect there are different versions of it even in hard copy.
There are quotes above, you have the hard copy, are they there ?
Even if he writes nice stuff what does that prove ?
It's interesting to see Pikes statue in washington as acceptable,
with the same stolen and corrupted double headed eagle as
rothchilds use. He was their man.
The quotes from Morals & Dogma are real quotes, but the one from that letter is an admitted hoax. (Leo Taxil hoax)Quote:
Originally Posted by MAGNES
Pike admits that the higher degrees hide truths from the lower degrees, but that's because that's how the mystery schools did it and freemasonry tries to imitate that.
I like philosophy, and so I was bound to find the book interesting. It's not a big handbook for taking over the world like the Protocols; it is a philosophy/theosophy book.
This is the key here. Many masons, and the rulers of this world, are what I would call spiritual atheists. They relate to Lucifer, the light bearer, as a symbol of knowledge. They do in fact develop themselves spiritually, but in a negative direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by MAGNES
Regular atheists like, say, Dawkins, are spiritually immature atheists who believe they've got everything figured out in their head. Spiritual atheists don't rely on logic and debates, they follow their soul. Like anyone who wishes to develop spiritually, they must attain Love. In their case it is love of themselves. As they develop, they become what is known as service-to-self (STS) entities, and can eventually become non-physical. They need others like them to sustain themselves, because their love does not come from the Source....they require others to serve them.
Christ represents service-to-others. Generally the idea behind organized religions (note I didn't necessarily say organized religions) is based on service-to-others as the path of spiritual development. In this case, Love is freely given and received. This makes it difficult for the negative side because it starves them out of existence.
I'm sure a mason could go either way, since these spiritual principles apply equally to both ways. However Free Masontry as an organization appears to be orientated in the negative direction.
Regarding Satan, he is a real entity or being, one that is on the top of this negative pyramid. He requires this dark pyramid to sustain him, feeding off the energy of humanity. He isn't a god, he's just an STS being like all the others that aspire to be like him. And there are humans who could eventually get to his level, theoretically. There are probably many others like him throughout the universe.
I'm not familiar with "STS entities"... care to enlighten?Quote:
Originally Posted by vacuum
Google results of "sts entity" provide a pretty good idea of the concept and relate to what I'm talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420
I have heard That lucifer is Christ or viceversa not that I subscribe to it.
Gonzo, this is not meant as a personal attack.
If after seeing those M's&D quotes above, you still cannot see that the FMC is an admitted luciferian body of worship, I just don't know what to say. You are more intellegent that that.
Semantics such as "Nowhere does it say they worship satan" is below what I normally see coming from you. Satan is Lucifer, is Ba'al, is Moloch, et al.
Besides Ms&D, there are other highly touted masonic authors who admit crux of the FMC is luciferian worship. They use a lot of pretty wording and eloquent writing, but their message is simple:
Belief in Christ is superstition and silly, belief in Lucifer is reasonable and illuminating.
This is why it is so simple to understand that it is an attack on Jesus. You can't believe in lucifer without believing in God. This is why I always say to people: You may not believe in Christ, but the PTB certainly do. I have a number of friends that are in the FMC. They are all lower level master masons, blue lodge 3rd degrees for the most part. A few have gone further. I have approached the friends that I am clse with and expressed my concerns. As usual, they deny my allegations and tout whatever lines that a 3rd degree is told to tout, which is as always a lie that they believe.
I have bought multiple copies of a few different books and given them to people that I care about who are involved in the FMC, and none of them have read a single sentence from the books. The refuse to do any research on it, outside of kosher FMC writings, and they constantly use bullshit gobble-de-goop from their "emergency book" entitled "The pilgrims path, which is a laughable attempt at refuting proofs that the FMC is an anti-Christian organization.
So be it. The Father has his own plans for them.
The lodge even sent one of my old friends to visit me, under the pretense of "catching up" and "having a beer", but at the end of the night he made his true intentions known, which was to try and convince me that the FMC is not what I say is is, and that I should not believe the writings of Pike, Hall and others. Haha!
Whatever. Just last week I loaned Eppersons book to a co-worker. He set it down on the counter in the bathroom while he was in there, and when he came to the counter to wash his hands, it was stolen. Typical. So I have been praying that whoever has stolen it will read the book, come to their senses, and return it to me.
Anywyays, I got off track, but yeah: The FMC is an satanic cult at its core.
Where did you hear something like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by cthulu
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Originally Posted by Awoke
I am not a christian. I've read the bible all the way through (KJV), and wouldn't be opposed to believing, IF I could manage to do so. As of yet, I cannot. Every since I was a child I thought the God of the Bible seemed way too human and limited.
Yeah, masonry is "luciferian"... But that doesn't necessarily equal devil worship. Anyone who says they "seek light" could be said to be "luciferian".
Pike and Hall et al make a lot of references to Light and Truth. That's where the "luciferian" stuff comes in; Lucifer means light-bearer. Satan means adversary. They don't talk about Satan, and don't often talk directly of Lucifer. I'm pretty sure they don't believe in Lucifer as an entity; to them, Lucifer is merely a symbol of Light, Truth, Knowledge. I don't think they believe in Satan as an entity either.
The masonic notion of God is all-encompassing. There is nothing outside of God. Good and evil are both part of God and God's Design. The masonic god is the same as the kabbalist's "Ain Soph". Any notion of God without limit is the God of masonry. The notion of good/evil being flip sides of the same coin is a somewhat dangerous notion, which is partly why the ancient mystery schools hid their beliefs from the mainstream... Unfortunately, the "secrets/mysteries" fell into the wrong hands (Modern Freemasonry), and lower masons are used by those at the top to further their agenda(s).
So, in my opinion, the hierarchy and structure of organized freemasonry is bad or evil, but some of the ideas they hold are not necessarily bad (though they could be used that way by unscrupulous people).
Sounds like you're on your way to "illumination", brother.
I know you don't believe in Jesus, but the masons and the rest of the conspirators do. Be careful.
Last time I will say it: Satan is Lucifer. Lucifer is Satan.
LOL, you don't have to worry about me joining a Lodge or anything! I still gag when I see masonic regalia/symbols on peoples' cars and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Awoke
But I do not fear Truth.
I know Theosophy is not popular here, and I am no Theosophist, but I can't knock their motto:
http://brianakira.files.wordpress.co...eal-green1.jpg
"There is no religion higher than Truth."
I realize that world government/NWO/communism/all that shit is being run essentially by "luciferians", and I by no means support that, but there is some truth to SOME of their beliefs. They just try to use their beliefs to justify doing things that honestly good people wouldn't or couldn't do. They figure the end justifies the means.
"It'll all work out in the end"... that's something I agree with the "lucies" on... except they think the "working out in the end" is a worldwide, totalitarian communist government that they run.
I know that the "working out in the end" is their eventual downfall.
Letting someone else flip that coin for you, is even more dangerous.Quote:
The notion of good/evil being flip sides of the same coin is a somewhat dangerous notion,
The notion of original sin, is the death of the human race.
google "christ is lucifer". there's plenty of references. The notion that lucifer is the devil or satan or that 2000 years ago someone was named "jesus christ" are both absurd. I'm just saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Awoke
That is not truth, you seem to be years behind on your reading and clueless on all this,Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420
and that's coming from a friend of yours.
I have posted a lot on all this and you never bothered to counter what I post.
They believe in black magic and all sorts of other sick beliefs.
That symbol you have no problem with is a black magic symbol of power to the sick minded.
They play with numbers too and kill people using them.
They corrupt history and attack important Western leaders, promote aliens,
one world government, promote nonsense and jibberish based on nothing
but their own fantasies.
That is their truth that you are for you are saying ?
Masonry and " theo sophists " overlap and did so on gim as well promoting an agenda on there.
They are anti Western and can be accurately described as Oriental Depostism, their beliefs.
Total anti thesis to Western Ideas and Philosophy and through deceit work to destroy from within.
" by their works ye shall know them "
Did you ever bother to read my accounts of confrontation with skyvike and goldisimma ?
It's very revealing.
You can't be Pro West and believe in this shit. They are not.
They seek to destroy White Western Christian European Man.
It's all Jew bullshit. All of it, Pike one of the leaders.
Even on SF they get outed strongly, some of the best threads I have ever seen.
What Masons say, and what they do are two different things.Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420
Here is what an average ranked Mason believes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs
I was going to put up some links, I am tired of that, truth is people here interested should
have already read them or bookmarked them, so I won't bother again.
But I posted 2 screens above, both from masonic books , manuals written for masons.
Third degree masons site the name of demon gods, Jah Bul On, Bul from their own admission
is Baal.
Where does this go ? It's huge. Human sacrifice of children in ancient times, Jesus may
have rebelled against this, not for animal sacrifice or money changing but human sacrifice
of children. Roman and Greek accounts have proven correct.
Go research Theo Sophists yourselves, even wiki links I gave destroy them.
You can shut down discussion as they deceive you just by mentioning the
witches name which I hate to type and spell right, that is why I call her Blat witch.
Plato is their number one target to corrupt , he and his works are The West .
Total anti thesis of what they stand for.
http://i53.tinypic.com/290vvhf.jpg
yup, they aim to bring about their version of Plato's "Republic".Quote:
Originally Posted by MAGNES
The following story is the 100% undiluted truth:
A few months ago a friend of mine that I believe is a Mason gave me a book to read. This friend was very insistent that I borrow the book even though it was obvious that I wasn't interested in it. Every week or so, she would pester me to read it. Eventually I decided that my friend had some kind of agenda and that is why she wanted me to read the book. As soon as I opened it up to read, I observed that the sentence construction, storyline, and character development of the book were totally nonsensical and disjointed. On top of that, there were a ton of Jewish and occultic references. It was obvious that this book was trying to say something other than what it purported to be saying (by the way it was a book about the holocaust in case anyone is wondering). I decided to do some research regarding the author, publisher, artist, etc...as well as some of the suspicious sounding names of the characters of the book. I grabbed the laptop and started googling away. About 10 seconds after doing my first google search, my home phone rang from a blocked number and no one was on the other end. I hang up, did another google search, got another phone call. This happened several times. This happened between the hours of 9:30-10:30pm.
I eventually stopped searching as I was getting pretty freaked out (the prank phone calls stopped as soon as I stopped searching). A few months later, I read this book on mind control (highly recommended) http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...nd_control.htm
According to the book, there are 'trigger books' out there that operate via hidden meanings and programming. Was that book that my friend gave me a trigger book? I don't know for sure, but I do know that I will be extremely careful with masonic books of any kind in the future.
dys
ps- I posted this on another thread, but it's worth repeating: in addition to theosophy, also watch out for discordiansim and especially thelema.
Lots of key links here.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/general-discussion/the-zeitgeist-movementvenus-project-is-a-united-nations-front!/
Read this thread. After this thread she openly began posting about lucifer.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/religion-and-philosophy/parallel-universes-exist-time-travel-possible-(tough-one-for-religions)/
Read first link above how I began to question what they were posting.
They will promote this crap in person and lie in person.
A lucifer lover Braden posted by goldie the theosophist mo totally who later posts on lucifer
posts garbage and lies about constantine and later takes shots at Charles the Great, he is a
mason, Plato is a mason too, ROFL ! Skyvike emails me back, he knows Plato the mathmatician,
rofl, I don't, lol, they use numbers for " magical " purposes. Sarge was posting a lot about this
on agora, a very knowledgable poster way ahead of everyone. The demon worshippers don't
believe in good teachings as they corrupt but black magic and stupidity.
Plato does not lay down the law on any society, as described by historians,Quote:
Originally Posted by Low Pan
" plato concerns himself with justice and the moral state " .
One Prof asks, What does plato say or believe, nothing.
The process is the education. Thinking , questioning.
Even the Romans had a problem with this and " sophist " became semi dirty name.
Plato had a problem with the Iliad and Odyssey, questioned them, that is not Justice.
There are 3 societies Plato has up for discussion or 4, lol, from my count.
What Plato writes about is not possible, he destroys his own creation,
what he is doing, questioning would not be possible, as he promotes
questioning as key, being involved, not being an idiot, ie, apathetic,
without this evil overcomes the government. Plato states he himself
would be killed. He goes full circle, starts all this cause of Socrates.
People corrupt Plato and deceive people on his works, I just did 2 major
podcasts and look at my own copy of The Republic, not an easy work to
read, even NeoCons corrupt Plato, Strauss, make him a communist.
The Cave I posted above is The Matrix.
You are all Philosopher Kings, take your fellow man out of the Cave to see the light.
Apollo's light.
Do not be deceived by the puppet masters.
A historian on Plato, Philosophy PHD and University Prof,
" it will take you 3 or 4 reads with direction to begin to understand " .
It is hard to read and boring even, I would not recommend it as reading,
I did have a big thread on the Classics, I recommended picking up more
than one copy and reading the preface and intro of different authors,
translation, and time period, what do they highlight, that alone is a very
educational exercise, since then I have done more but my initial advice is
stands.
I posted Plato's Cave on here a few times, people don't know what I am posting it seems.
That is disappointing, considering one of the versions I found on gim by a member,
the cartoon stick one, that's funny and real at times, beat your buddy and drag him
out if you have too.
Who is the Philosopher King on this microcausm of society.
Gaillo is.
Magnes-
You know me, you know that I am no Mason and you know I'm a follower of Jesus Christ... I have to say one thing: in the past I have strongly suspected that Plato was a Mason. Now, it's been a long time since I've looked into it, a couple of years anyway, and I will definetely revisit it. Of course I could be wrong, but usually my instincts about this stuff are pretty good.
dys
This is modern garbage, what they do is corrupt him, there is even a book that they wrote saying this.Quote:
Originally Posted by dys
Masons and the Occult burrow from many to corrupt, symbols, history, etc, it's all mumbo jumbo,
Plato would shit on them, matter of fact he did, their kind.
Reason Vs Black Magic
You should have a close look at my post above.
You want references, will take some work.
The Blat Witch hates Plato and the Greeks,
calls them heathens, their language heathen,
as she goes on to use Greek language,
The Sophist, this alone is corruption by association.
There is nothing Theo or even Sophist about them.
Do people here believe in Justice, one word describes
our societies, and what the Occult stands against.
These images are even in physical metals that have not
changed much over the thousands of years.
Masonry is evil. My advice is to throw that book into the fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420
What truth do they promote first of all ?Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420
What did they teach us ?
This witch actually lives, many NGO's doing her work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madame_Blavatsky
The three declared objects of the original Theosophical Society as established by Blavatsky, Judge and Olcott were as follows:
* First — To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste, or color.