This is an incredible breakdown by Ry2sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssxEvQNa16E
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This is an incredible breakdown by Ry2sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssxEvQNa16E
dayum....
http://i49.tinypic.com/rh4v1l.jpg
No can see at work. Anybody care to summarize?
As usual Alex Jones skirts Israeli guilt of ethnic cleansing in Gaza.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Salty
A J supports Israel.......in a nut shellQuote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Salty
Certified by the ADL..............
coincidentally, ZCF is on the rag against "Dawstein",
Kosher Crybaby Ryan Dawstein: “ZCF is a Neo-Nazi Hate Site! Oy Vey!”
Kosher Crybaby, Ryan Dawson, Blows a Gasket
I know someone who's been a member at his site since 2004. Basically all those links say is he's not hardcore and radical enough for their liking. A lot miss the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatColo
His contention with the pentagon/plane/missile issue is there have always areas of sticking points that people seem to get hung over up endlessly arguing to death in a loop while literally wasting their lives. Could it be a missile? Sure, could it be something else? Sure. Will anyone be allowed to know in the next 20 years? Probably not. Did it look like a plane? was there wreckage? Yes. Likely? maybe, possible? yes. For certain? Dunno? And that's as far as it can go.
What he is saying is it doesn't matter either way on some issues, and stop wasting time when it literally accomplishes nothing. Same deal with blanket racism accusations. People argue it to death. DA Joooos!
It never accomplishes anything, and you shoot yourself in the foot on top of it all. The brute force racism tactic will never work. Endless loops of zero.
Some get it, some don't, some never will.
edit: I hope you Don't frequent ZCF. That place looks almost as ridiculous as the user base judging by the comments left. A group of 15yr old agoraphobic's basement tinfoil hat party. Yeesh...
^ If you check the ZCF links:
Kosher Crybaby Ryan Dawstein: “ZCF is a Neo-Nazi Hate Site! Oy Vey!”
Kosher Crybaby, Ryan Dawson, Blows a Gasket
you find his beef isn't over the pentagon question whatsoever. ZCF's beef is RD dissed him using some ADL joospew buzzwords. RD even accused ZCF of being an ADL front site - a telltale ploy of RD to try to "psychologically project" ;)
I noted in another thread recently that RD was a "commercial jetliner hit the pentagon and anyone who doubts it is a retard/disinfo/yadayada" whip cracker; at least as of 2-3 years ago when I saw a vid with him spewing that noise. I've sort of "had him on IGNORE" ever since, :D I don't even know if he still spouts that noise or what.
Good Spingola/ZCF interview yesterday,
Spingola & ZCF (Dec. 06, 2012)
Yes I know that. I mentioned the pentagon thing because you said it was the "deciding" moment for you. I know it has been for many others as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatColo
At some point you have to wonder how old the people are behind these websites, both owners, and commenters. A teenager commenting deserves little thought, but there is a lot of that by default. The illusion of knowledge, and lots of opinion. The underage opinionated generation is growing by leaps, and bounds.
You get a wacky website, and group of teenagers cheering it on...the whole thing self perpetuates down a rabbit hole.
It take an increasing level of discernment on order to keep your head above water on the internet these days.
Kids born even after 9/11 are getting online now, and being vocal. This trend is obviously increasing.
Something to think about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5SeMtoUsXY&feature=player_embedded#http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5SeMtoUsXY&feature=player_embedded#
2 / 1:02
NEW: 9/11 Hotel Video Released of NO PLANE hitting the Pentagon!
^^ Don't even know what I'm looking at. Clear as mud.
....and here we go. "The wheels on the bus go round and round..."
RY did a Ron Paul. If you don't have any compelling evidence, don't err on the side of outlandish.
Good advice. Especially if you're looking to engage people, and make real change.
you are looking at an explosion minus plane
I watched it again, and I actually see the reflection of something coming in from the left that looks like an airplane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
This more convinces me there was a plane than not.
....and here we go....it's happening right now. ;)
Anyone know if Dawson is also a "No Planes @ WTC" advocate? That "theory" is even more idiotic than the "commercial jetliner hit the pentagon" theory!
Talk about a "Sunstein Cognitive Infiltration" gambit so obviously designed to bait honest Truthers into becoming an ineffective & irrelevant "chase our tails debating/infighting over exotic theories movement" o)(~
"9/11: The Absurdity of the No-Planes-in-New York Theory" - PDF by Anthony Lawson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV4rvTxcMSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV4rvTxcMSY
"What Has Happened To Veterans Today?" - Lawson again
Conclusion from the first Lawson PDF above,
Quote:
What happened, initially, in New York was obvious, because real people saw it happen, and because so many videos captured what happened to the South Tower. But, once again, the planes were not forensically identified and were almost certainly not the planes that were allegedly hijacked that morning, so the official story was a total fabrication. Although the no-planes-in-New York theorists have been recognised as either fools or monumental liars—by those who can think for themselves—they have given many a mainstream-media lackey an excuse to bundle all of those who are genuinely seeking the truth into one single category:
Foil-hatted nutters who don't even think that real planes hit the Twin Towers.
This nonsense really has to stop, and not hosting disinformationists like James H. Fetzer on otherwise serious websites will go a long way to dispel this very damaging image.
No. I'm not his promotion manager, but I would have to say he's put out some of the most coherent information in existence, of which many other people copy, and try to claim recognition.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatColo
He was linking up the data, and making connections before essentially everybody.
For ZCF to say what they say totally destroys their own credibility...brutally. Schizoid x 1000. Deep into moonbat territory.
UGH.. Me not know why people look to follow others who are obviously profiting from opening their pieholes. From Pat Robertson to Glen Beck to countless others these people are making a living on yapping. They will say what it takes to get an audience.
Me research what I want to know looking for any info or evidence and see where that leads like any good tracker. Me not go out in woods and ask locals.."You see where deer went?"
Deer leaves tracks and often bent branches of plants.. deer cannot hide from good tracker but person you ask.. They can lie and tell you deer went other way or they no see deer because they want that deer.
Alex Jones has vested interest in saying what gathers a crowd and pays his bills just like politician in campaign. To trust those of that tribe is foolish.
what are you, the gold duck of gs-us? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by 10 Bears
A couple loose screws running around.
I trust myself to make my own decisions on my own. What I hate is when a person tells me what they think and it turns out to be some talking points of some paid TV, Radio or Internet shill.Quote:
Originally Posted by chad
When me ask man what he thinks I want to know what HE THINKS and not what some assclown he listens to thinks.
In which case.. I know he not think at all.. He is stupid slave of media.
Me suspect you drink too much fluoride. You appear brainwashed.
no, i'm referring to the talking like tonto schtick. it's way better than the gold duck. i'm cracking up over here. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 10 Bears
Hmm...
Of what tribe are you 10 beers?Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 Bears
10 beers. LOL...
Well played.
Just so we're clear then, ZCF made no "Dawson's an NP@WTC-er!" accusation against Dawson. Again:Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
Kosher Crybaby Ryan Dawstein: “ZCF is a Neo-Nazi Hate Site! Oy Vey!”
Kosher Crybaby, Ryan Dawson, Blows a Gasket
Re your "For ZCF to say what they say"... bit, is there some specific point(s) in the 2 links above which you find unfactual? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/s...20%2824%29.gif
Again, ZCF's beef is RD dissed him using some signature ADL joospew labels. RD even accused ZCF of being an ADL front site - a telltale ploy of RD to try to "psychologically project" ;)
Re your colorful "...totally destroys their own credibility...brutally. Schizoid x 1000. Deep into moonbat territory" ad-hom/ridicule rant which you ripped into ZCF with-- it's ironic that Dawson is accused by ZCF of using ADL joospew labels, then in your attempt to come to Dawson's defense, you do so with an assortment of ad-hom joospew labels, conspicuously devoid of ref's to any specific ZCF points... quite a joowey approach from you there, joobo!
\uu\
And I see in the David Cole thread, you break out the:
...card. What's next, you going to try to "shame" everyone by waving around the holohoax™ card? :oQuote:
Originally Posted by joboo
Should GSUS sing you a round of "Hey Joobo" now? :D
Curious.
So how much do you know about Ry from a firsthand experience other than ZCF?
If you realized how far off base you are, you might be a bit concerned.
So he's some kind of undercover plant?
All joking aside. Are you on medication by any chance?
^ good grief, it's the "...meds" gambit, talk about a joowey approach!...:rolleyes:
is there some reason you chose not to address the
...question, joobo? ???Quote:
Kosher Crybaby Ryan Dawstein: “ZCF is a Neo-Nazi Hate Site! Oy Vey!”
Kosher Crybaby, Ryan Dawson, Blows a Gasket
Re your "For ZCF to say what they say"... bit, is there some specific point(s) in the 2 links above which you find unfactual? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/s...20%2824%29.gif
After your colorful "...totally destroys their own credibility...brutally. Schizoid x 1000. Deep into moonbat territory" ad-hom/ridicule rant against ZCF, it would seem that some substantiation is the least you could offer... :rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by PatColo
I'm asking you.
My claims on that site are already clear. It comes across to me as a bunch of paranoid delusional 15 year old's dosing mountain dew in their parents basements.
Seeing as I'm now some secret agent plant, and not to be trusted....
Why don't you tell me who, and what, Ryan Dawson is?
You're the expert apparently on ZCF, they are your articles, and I'm a secret undercover agent all of the sudden.
Spell it out for me.
A Plane hit the Pentagon (cut away 911 truth disinfo)Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74qTz0oIdtI
more joowey ad-hom spew, mixed some trusty straw man gambits;Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
same conspicuous lack of specific ref's substantiating your joobospew.
I gather your "answer" is, "no answer" then, correct joobo? :oQuote:
^ good grief, it's the "...meds" gambit, talk about a joowey approach!...:rolleyes:
is there some reason you chose not to address the
...question, joobo? ???Quote:
Kosher Crybaby Ryan Dawstein: “ZCF is a Neo-Nazi Hate Site! Oy Vey!”
Kosher Crybaby, Ryan Dawson, Blows a Gasket
Re your "For ZCF to say what they say"... bit, is there some specific point(s) in the 2 links above which you find unfactual? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/s...20%2824%29.gif
After your colorful "...totally destroys their own credibility...brutally. Schizoid x 1000. Deep into moonbat territory" ad-hom/ridicule rant against ZCF, it would seem that some substantiation is the least you could offer... :rolleyes:
U sure?? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
Nice logic. Fuck me....Ron Paul must be a Joo too. See post 12.
Do you bother reading them, or is there a short term degenerative memory condition (actually a legitimate question in trying to rationalize your behavior atm, and thought processes)
The whole world is one big conspiracy of undercover joos. Of course.
I held you in a much higher regard back since gim1 days. That has totally changed after this little row.
What a complete disappointment.
You are acting completely irrational to the point it's actually disturbing.
^ your "efforts" in this row amount to a series of ad-hom fallacies, and straw-man fallacies (see Disinfo Rules #4 & #5), combined with a conspicuous, ongoing refusal to answer a simple & valid question:
...opting instead to try to distract & divert with yet more ad-hom & straw-man fallacies.Quote:
Kosher Crybaby Ryan Dawstein: “ZCF is a Neo-Nazi Hate Site! Oy Vey!”
Kosher Crybaby, Ryan Dawson, Blows a Gasket
Re your "For ZCF to say what they say"... bit, is there some specific point(s) in the 2 links above which you find unfactual? http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/s...20%2824%29.gif
And then you try to joobospew: other members have "logic" & "rationality" problems... ;D
Ahh I get it.. The joke is on me.
Nice trolling.
I fell for it.
If you are actually serious, and not trolling. I can't even see the point you're trying to make from those two links you keep re posting.
I read them I don't get it. My answer, if you need to see it specifically, is nothing is factual. None of it makes any sense to me. It all amounts to a bunch of lies and nonsense. That is my answer.
What is the point you're trying to make?
Can you sum it up in a few sentences?
Anyone else want to jump in ? ? ? ? ? ?
?????????
Let's try this approach: You copy/paste specific line/point(s) made in each of the 2 ZCF blogs which you object to, and respond something like,Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
"Where ZCF claims [specific line pasted from ZCF/Dawson blogs here] is not factual/ lie/ nonsense/ totally destroys their own credibility...brutally/ Schizoid x 1000/ Deep into moonbat territory BECAUSE _________."
[where you fill in the blank with your specific, sourced explanation for why the given ZCF quote fits your negative description].
Let's see if that ^ approach can help get us through this "row"...\uu\
What is your confusion at this point?Quote:
Originally Posted by PatColo
I think both articles top to bottom, full stop, are lies.
BECAUSE..........they are both comprised of one outlandish nonsensical lie after another.
BECAUSE.........there is nothing in them that is factual.
BECAUSE........both links are total horseshit made up by paranoid delusional 15 year old's tweaking on mountain dew in their parents basement...which totally destroys ZCF's credibility as a source of anything worth reading by anyone with a sane mind.
Do you need further clarification?
I know I would like some, because you're coming off as one seriously batshit crazy mofo.
Now what would be nice from you is to perhaps stop being such a $%^$ goof, and have an adult conversation by letting ideas flow in both directions.
What is your contention? What is the issue?
Since you kindly asked joobo; yes, I'm afraid I do. :|~http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/s...20%2824%29.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by joboo
I really can't make this any more STEP BY STEP for you:
So, no more broad-brush "top to bottom" generalities... but rather SPECIFIC, copy/pasted lines which you then SPECIFICALLY REFUTE INCLUDING ANY SOURCES SUBSTANTIATING YOUR REFUTATION.Quote:
You copy/paste specific line/point(s) made in each of the 2 ZCF blogs which you object to, and respond something like,
"Where ZCF claims [specific line pasted from ZCF/Dawson blogs here] is not factual/ lie/ nonsense/ totally destroys their own credibility...brutally/ Schizoid x 1000/ Deep into moonbat territory BECAUSE _________."
[where you fill in the blank with your specific, sourced explanation for why the given ZCF quote fits your negative description].
MMMMKAY? OO)~
"This Kosher Klown just keeps sinking deeper and deeper into his bowl of rotten gefilte fish."
Idiotic 15yr old nonsensical rhetoric.
In his latest video Dawson actually claims that “nobody” listens to people like me. That’s funny because the website stats tell a different story. According to the data, FAR more people are coming to my site than that of Ryan Dawson.
Sorry my apologies. This could be true. And this lends credibility to what exactly other than ZCF likes to brag about penis stat size. Very impressive.
"Along with the Jew censors who are responsible for shutting this site down twice, Dawson has egg on his face. Dawson wields the term “neo-nazi” like the ADL does, he calls people “anti-Semitic” and “bigots” like the ADL does, yet actually has the nerve to assert that my site is a “front” for the ADL!
Are there broad-brush racist people in the world like Ry claims? Hate to break it to you man, but yes there most definitely is. Welcome to planet earth.
"This is standard schizoid Jew doublethink at its finest."
More 15yr old Baseless accusation. Mere opinion.So compelling. Awards for journalistic excellence forthcoming.
Link #2
"Ryan Dawson purports to be an “anti-neocon” activist. Anyone who has done the necessary research into what “neoconservatism” is all about could tell you that the term “neocon” is nothing more than a euphemism for Jew."
Every neocon is a Jew? Really? More fallacious idiocy.
"Dawson recently had a major chimp-out on his forum which nearly caused him to choke on his crispy fillet of gefilte fish.
Idiotic childish accusation.
"Using classic ADL verbiage, this dedicated servant of Zion screeched, Ry says: “Its you closet anti-semetic chicken shits and outright bigots that feed the zionist system and victimhood status. You’re just as fucking stupid as they are apologizing for nazis”.
This is the truth. You yourself just posted a video of David Cole saying the same thing.
"Dawson later wails about how “anti-Semites” have ‘hijacked’ his 9/11 research, stating: “Mother fuckers hijacked my 911 theory and just add jew jew jew to it. These are the discrediting pukes that push people away from supporting social justice in Palestine in Syria etc.”
And Ry would be right about that, because that is what happened.
snip...
That's as far as I'm going to take this pathetic experience. Being Jewish, and following the Zionist political ideology are two different realities, and they are quickly differentiating.
If you think every Jew is a Zionist perhaps you need to get out of the basement your mind is in, and go meet some real people in the world outside of a computer screen.
If you think otherwise, then it's painfully obvious what you're really about along with these two ZCF fansite articles.
Good luck with your ZCF broad-brush racist nonsense. You'll be spinning your wheels while more intelligent people affect real change in the world by appealing to a broader audience with a far more common sense approach.
I bet you thought Ron Paul could have made it all the way if he only he espoused more blanket joo, and no plane pentagon conspiracy talk.
Good grief. What a waste of time.
Not know what you refer to.. my language.
You maybe racist?
Are you still humming along at 10 beers, or have you upgraded to 18?Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 Bears
Teeth floating yet?
If I say in my language you are bout to be hit by bus do you move or bust out laughing at accent? Me think I know answer but enlighten me please.Quote:
Originally Posted by chad
Everyone have online personality. I go with ancestor representation. 10 Bears parents ashamed of family Oklahoma red roots. One should never feel shame for roots. One need only embrace ancestry as big part of who they are.
I see I am not welcome here.
The video in the OP really makes some good points about Alex Jones.
Edit:
I do not think that anybody has the right to judge if another is "allowed" to post here. I enjoy speaking with new people and I don't feel like I should have to be here all the time to be nice and reasonable in order to have the privilege of doing so. In other words, it is rude (towards people like me) of the charter members to run new posters off for little or no reason.
People are responding more to your presence and less to your ideas and statements and that is sad.
You can join me in never having known, in my whole life, if I am fully welcome anywhere.Quote:
I see I am not welcome here.