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Wow, sometimes someone will say something and I think they've crawled inside my head. I've tried this argument many times, and for some reason it (it- meaning the argument you alluded to) has been a colossal failure in my experience. Most people believe strongly that it's disrespectful to family members of 911 victims to question the company line on 911. To me this is evidence that often the most effective form of propaganda is simple repetition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Awoke
dys
Yeah, well most people also believe that George W. Bush is a Christian, Obama is American, and Alex Jones is not a jew.Quote:
Originally Posted by dys
I've been browsing the articles at this UK guy's blog: http://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com - much of it worthwhile, if you can tolerate his frequent typos & bad grammar. This one's interesting,
Watering Seeds
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Being mindful of how we deliver the truth
How many of us have come across the zealot vegans who shove a leaflet in our face titled GO VEGAN! I often wondered what their success rate is. As if someone would suddenly convert over to ‘their’ side, to an alternative thinking and lifestyle after being exposed to that aggressive pitch.
My approach these days whenever I’m delivering this message is I immediately polarize people into two groups:
1/. People I will probably never meet again
2/. People I will most probably meet up again at some point.
The first group I tend to just provide them with a flyer or piece of paper containing a list of various websites and films. The second group who I’m sure I will meet up with again, say in a work place, or social event I tend to tread more carefully. Like a burglar throwing up a stone to the window to see if anyone is at home, I try to gain their levels of awareness. Are they entrenched in their unconsciousness, or do they have some level of social/global awareness?
The reason for this is because in a work or social environment handing this stuff out could backfire on you and you end up indirectly losing your job, or create an awkward atmosphere. It does happen. So it may be wise to play it low key and bite your tongue in some environments and keep all your truthing activities outside the workplace. Remember if you have no income this could disable your activities, so it’s not worth it. Perhaps if you know your going to leave anyway, get people’s e-mails and send material on to them once you’ve left.
So with the second group of people for example I may talk about the economy and test the water to see their views on it. If they immediately retort in TV (talmudvision) talk I don’t give up on them, as I understand that’s just the programming seeping through. I persevere to see if there is something inside which has the ‘potential’ of some level of independent thought. It’s like head hunting – all we need is a spark of potential which could be nurtured into a free-thinker. This process could take weeks.
I accept this may all sound judgmental and dismissive of people, but it’s through years of experience and wasted energy in trying to tap into the unconscious sheople I have come to make these observations. Years of people watching, and almost character profiling. I’m at a stage now that within a few minutes and even less sometimes I can suss out if I’m wasting my energy.
Tell tell signs are if they constantly interrupt you and dominate the conversation all about their selfish lifestyles. They also tend to be insensitive to the environment and people around them.
The qualities of a potential truther tend to be people who are:
* Less ego-driven
* More conscious
* More sensitive towards others and environments
* Reflective thinkers
* Generally not loud mouths
* Less materialistic
* Not immature with their approach to winning games (golf, football whatever). In fact they are less involved in these competitive sports and are more into self-development.
* They tend to be less work, career or money driven
* Someone who is socially aware, even if it is only local politics
* Less self-absorbed, more altruistic
* Relatively good listeners
* Have relative wisdom and common sense (it is not important that they are academically intelligent. In fact as many of us have observed those types of people tend to be the least open to this information. These academic-heads are just good repeaters, regurgitating the judaic system)
* People who tend to be less engrained in their identity. They are not so caught up in this “I AM” business. I am a ….buddhist, I am a …..vegetarian, I am a …..housewife, I am a …..golfer, whatever.
* They often have had some level of negative experience with authoritative figures such as magistrates, police, local councils, social services, etc and even the media. They know ‘the system ain’t quite how it ought to be’.
* People who have respect for a friend, sibling, colleague, partner who has already primed them with the fundaments of the conspiracy.
* People who have had a recent life-shattering or spiritual experience and have an element of curiosity to how the world ‘really’ runs and an alternative to what they have absorbed to date.
Once I have recognised that I have a potential truther before me, someone who really is prepared to absorb new information as opposed to just being a ‘nodding dog’ (politely pretending to listen), I then tread carefully to the next level.
I try to pick up on what their interests are – be it hiking, natural health, education, politics, whatever and then tailor the conversation around their interests making a tentative link to a more neural part of this agenda.
So for example if someone is into nutrition I would listen carefully to their views on it and nod and agree (even if I disagree with their approach/ideas), then gently gently weave in the topic of “Codex Alimentarias”, or vaccines, or GM foods, whatever.
If they were into economics I would ask them their views on compound interest and ask if they’ve heard of usury. I would then scribble down films for them to watch such as “Money as Debt” and “Money Masters”.
I would never claim to really know my subject, but play neutral to avoid ego bashing. I would pretend someone I met mentioned this or that to me and wondered what their thoughts were on this.
I know this is outright lying and we are supposed to be in the truth movement. But hey – we have an important job to do. This is a life or death situation. You and I are potentially trying to curb WW3, so telling the odd porkie (pork pie = lie) here n there to save lives ain’t such a sin.
I would ‘try’ and remain detached, lighthearted, neutral, balanced and most definitely non-pushy. Occasionally injecting some humour into the conversation if appropriate. Although at times it’s hard to do.
I try to think “What feeling/emotion does that person have after speaking with me? – What first impression do they have of the truth movement of truthers?”
The problem is we are so passionate about this subject and we have to keep a cool head when dealing with such blatant ignorance. It’s tough, especially when we’re tired or had a hard day, but we just have to try hard. When you feel yourself about to bite, snap or growl at a comment such as “Obama is going to get us out of this mess” or “If you don’t like it, just vote them out”, or “You’re just one of those conspiracy nutters” just detach, smile and try and stay neutral.
We all have egos and it’s tough to keep it out of all of this. If we try to think what are the chances that after you engage in an ego battle when sharing the truth that that person will whistle off home and eagerly look at the information you gave them. You know this will never happen, in fact they probably will just throw it in the bin and from then on they will always label any truth as silly little conspiracy theories.
The damage is then done and it will take an awful lot to repair and turn that person around – if ever.
I find just responding “Right” or “OK” in a gentle tonewhen being exposed to these conditioned comments helps me. It keeps me in neutral territory. Then I can either walk away or try a different approach.
“You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.” – Author Unknown
I have now found it useful that prior to going into a social event I prep myself mentally. This is especially useful to do when going into a family gathering. I gear myself up almost as if I’m going for an interview so that I’m prepared to be tested. Almost like I’m an actor. I feel this is one of the most important subjects on this planet and we are in the most insane unprecedented times the world has known – potentially end times. So making small sacrifices like this no matter how awkward and artificial it all is, is essential.
I always think to myself that by passing this information on it could eventually end up in the hands of a leading light in the movement, a character type similar to Mark Glenn, John Kaminski, Daryl Bradford Smith, Michael Collins Piper, Keith Johnson, etc. Just think of the potential. They may just have the skills and resources you don’t have, such as a brilliant video maker, public speaker, or musician, writer, poet whatever who could really get this truth out there. Yet all their talent may be presently wasted away on trivial degrading material and probably serving the judaic agenda. In addition you may prevent that person playing a significant role in this matrix, such as a future police officer or soldier whatever.
I feel we have to view everyone we interact with, even a conditioned organic robotic soldier as someone who potentially could wake up. Despite the odds being low. This soldier is intrenched in his identity. I AM a ….soldier. I have to constantly remind myself I too was once quite unconscious with my selfish little pursuits and identities.
In addition be mindful that the person you give the information to may not necessarily be particularly switched on to this material, however if you tread carefully and make some kind of impression you may just persuade them to pass this information onto someone else who absolutely takes the batten and runs with it. They may just act as a stepping stone between you and someone ripe for the truth.
Whenever you get disheartened or frustrated by all this nonsense, its a great thing to remind yourself that once that genie is out of the bottle, it ain’t going back in. When people migrate over to our side, they will NEVER go back to unknowing the truth. People can never UNsee, UNread and UNhear this truth no matter how they respond to it. You will always at some level sow a seed, despite it appearing a futile even negative exercise. It’s only when we ego bash that we can do damage as people then take sides and dig their heels in with resistance. So try hard to be self-disciplined gently gently does it.
The positive aspects of sharing this information no matter how strenuous it can be at times is that it helps with any pent up frustration with the events unfolding. Whatever happens in this battle you can hold your head up and say I did my bit. Plus you are helping people’s lives in the long run. Knowledge can be empowering for those who engage with it.
I see our job is to essentially nurture, encourage and help develop people’s potential consciousness. Like watering a seed.
I try to set myself little targets when I’m out n about. I may for example try and pass on information to at least ten people before I go home. Or pass on info to 30 people a week whatever.
“Who is more foolish, the child afraid of the dark, or the man afraid of the light?” – Maurice Freehill
It may seem odd at first instigating a conversation with a complete stranger, especially when we’re in a society which doesn’t converse. but it gets easier. The elite Jews have created a society were complete strangers do no not talk to each other through mistrust, paranoia and/or being totally self-absorbed. Everyone seems to be plugged into some sort of IT gadget now. This is no accident. They don’t want us making conversation. Talking is potentially dangerous to the elite – information gets shared that way. So that is exactly what us ‘in the know’ have to do. Talk and lots of it to lots and lots of people.
But how do you engage in conversation with a complete stranger?
Well essentially any way you can, as long as you are being respectful and not depriving people of their personal space. Try to be conscious of people’s feelings and body language.
A simple example:
Make a fuss of someone’s dog. Make out you had an identical dog just like theirs as a child. Yea I know another porkie, it’s gotta be done. Then maybe talk about the outlandish vet fees, and if the conversation flows, slide it towards the cost of living, then say another porkie and say something like “You know I heard on the radio the other day that the bankers rewarded themselves £140 Billion in bonuses for screwing up the country” If they bite to that, then stick with financial and social topics and then scribble down some sites which explain about who is behind all this mess.
Likewise you could pretend you’re impressed with their car, boat or garden whatever. Show interest in their possessions at some level first. But not too much. Pitch it enough so as you can soon connect on to a more neutral subject, then onto the agenda. You can usually get to the agenda within 3/5 stepping stone topics.
I tend not to mention ‘the Jews’ in an approach like that, I generally stay neutral. They will find out in the sites you give them when they get home.
I must admit sometimes the conversation hits the floor like a lead balloon, and you never get a chance to develop it to then pass on info. But that’s ok, it was a learning curve, just move on to the next victim.
When handing someone a leaflet I just say something like “Here’s some information which the main stream media aren’t telling us”. Or whatever the topic they’re interested in, I make out the websites are related – well it’s partly true as everything on this planet has been infected by the judaic virus.
I promise you it does get easier and like any skill it just needs honing. After the first few times the shyness and uncomfortableness goes. Even if the first couple of times are awkward yet you still manage to pass on the info – thats all that matters. Every conversation and every interaction will be a valid experience. You will develop your presentation and knowledge base and become so skilled you will be able to weave around any topic to deliver the truth. Become a mini actor.
These days I can somehow engineer the conversation around from a the topic of a simple garden hose to this agenda. It may take a bit of doing, lots of incremental stepping stones, but I get there in the end. And the people go off home with a leaflet or a piece of paper with half a dozen websites and films. Job done!
In conclusion
* ‘Try’ hard to keep the ego out.
* Gently gently does it. Avoid ruffling anyone’s feathers, it’s unproductive.
* Keep it friendly and respectful. Agree to disagree. Walk away if need be.
* LISTEN in the conversation, try not to dominate the discussion. Be conscious, be sensitive, tune into that person’s character.
* Keep neutral – don’t mention ‘the Jews’ unless they do. Make out someone gave you this info and you’re not quite sure yet what to make of it yourself. Sometimes it even pays to act ignorant if they are being antagonistic or challenging. Just say something like “Well it seems as if you know your stuff”. That way you may still end up giving them the info. They may have just been in a funny mood that day and the next day they are looking up your info.
* Don’t put yourself or anyone else in a compromised awkward position. Be sensitive and use some common sense in approaching people. Especially at night.
* Be an actor
* Swat up on your stuff first before you hit the streets, just the fundamentals in case you get cornered. Never challenge anyone, but knowing your material will allow you to re-approach the topic in different light.
* Make sure you have a pen and paper and leaflets to give them.
* Be on your guard for Jews who may want to catch you out. i.e don’t give out your personal details unless you 100% feel comfortable with that person.
* Try to dress appropriately – neutral. Clean, tidy, etc. Make sure your breath doesn’t smell and be conscious of body odour.
* Most of all be mindful of the impression/resonance you will leave with that person and what example you will have on the truth movement. Avoid trying to be a smart arse or arrogant.
Keep tapping away at the truth fellow truthpeckers. We ARE making headway, even though it’s hard to see at times. The elite Jews know this and they’re scared as hell. Spreading the truth is one of the most positive activities you can do on this earth.
“You can’t wake a person who is pretending to be asleep.” – Navajo Proverb
In a recent couple of Kevin Barrett Truth Jihad Radio podcasts, he's had UK guests on, and one of them claimed that there's currently a public, gummit-sponsored campaign to discourage people from drinking in pubs, and to instead buy their bottle at the store and drink at home. Anyone who knows UK culture knows that people who don't drink (at pubs?) are suspect of being, well, you name it. So they were speculating that the real reason for this was to reduce peoples' talking with one another, sharing knowledge etc- and instead encouraging them to "save a few quid" and isolate at home for their drinking (with talmudvision, radio etc) where the info and analysis (propaganda) they receive is controlled...Quote:
Originally Posted by PatColo
I'm on my way out or else I'd startpage-search some kind of ZSM story about this alleged UK campaign; you're welcome to search it though.
The FedEx guy stopped to drop off a delivery this week and pointed at the 2008 Ron Paul bumper sticker on my truck and says "I told my wife I'm seeing more Ron Paul bumper stickers than any others". He said she asked him why wasn't Paul doing better if it seems so many people are liking him? He says he told her that he was being cheated. I asked him did he think the electronic voting was rigged and he says "sure do". I told him "me too".
Two days later I'm waiting in a fast food lane waiting on my order when this fella comes out and says "I voted for old Ron last time but it didn't do any good". Took me a sec, I was in the wife's car and she also has a Ron Paul bumper sticker. I asked him what about this year and he says he can only vote and hope. My county only had 16 votes (?) for Ron Paul in the 2008 primaries. I've never had anyone mention Ron Paul to me before unless they knew me. Just an observation...
A friend who works at the local (suburban) library says that over the last couple of years there has been an extraordinary demand for books about how to raise chickens...
also from http://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com
The 6 Stages of Awakening
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1/. The bloody government
Moan moan moan all about the corrupt politicians, local councils, being ripped off by utility companies, insane legislation, injustices everywhere. Thankfully many people are now at this first stage of waking up.
2/. Arrrhhh so that’s why!
Ohhh right, so there is a reason for all this madness after all ……The New World Order/Illuminati. So it’s the freemasons, the Club of Rome, the Bilderburgs, the CFR, endless secret societies and on and on.
3/. zim
There’s so far one can go with all that NWO stuff until your head starts to spin. You cannot stay with the illuminati material for too long without stumbling across the words zionism, is-ra-el and of course the infamous mossad and seeing how they are all involved in this whole conspiracy.
4/. Jew-wise
Some people are able to pretty much skip over stage 3 and go directly to this forth stage. They soon realise that in fact behind all these labels – “it’s the Jews”. So much so that most of us eventually drop the term zionism when describing this agenda. Sure we’re aware to an extent it ain’t ALL the Jews conspiring against us gullible goy, but more the elite Jews and those that serve the elite, both Gentile and Jew.
5/. A virus behind a people
The mind-control virus of judaism. That essentially is what all this is about. Both Jews and Gentiles – that means everyone on this planet is directly or indirectly effected by this virus. It penetrates and encapsulates every soul, animal and living organism on this planet. So rather than focus too intensely on “The Jews”, we should look at the mind control system which drives them and in turn infects us.
6/. The Force
So here we are at the end of the line. Phew wot a long strenuous painful journey that was. Even though we heard about this force at the beginning of our journey. Even though many of us had been told about it as a child and read all about it. It’s one of those things unless you ‘get it’ you never really ‘get it’.
The Christians have a name for this force, they call it satan. Likewise do the Muslims, their name for it is iblis/shaytan. In Arabic it is shaitan. And as we delve into all the other philosophies there are constant references to this dark side. The yang side. The dark entities/energy. The opposing forces. This is after all what we discover early on in the NWO material within the masonic references and symbology, of course that being cabalistic by source.
So in conclusion this dark force is the energy which is behind judaism, which is the force which drives ‘the Jews’ to carry out their actions, who are behind the NWO/Illuminati, which are conduits behind all this government and social corruption.
That’s it – it is as simplistic, yet complex as that.
Our lives are 100% spiritual. Our individual journeys, choices, experiences, encounters, companions, arguments, highs n lows. They are all ultimately opportunities. Every minute part of our life. Opportunities to ‘get it’. To lean towards the light or lean towards the dark side. The classic yin yang.
Even the mundane experiences of things like shopping. Is it more convenient to shop in a major corporation supermarket every week than support local shops? Is it easier and hassle free if we just play neutral/passive and not do our bit to stand up for our brothers n sisters who are being suppressed and slaughtered in far distant lands? Do we cowardly turn away when we can see blatant corruption and insane Orwelian legislation around us – as long as it doesn’t effect us too much we won’t get involved?!
This is where all this digging, all this reading about conspiracies, all these youtube videos, seminars, documentaries and endless browsing ultimately takes us.
All this researching, browsing and absorbing of information if we are honest is really only procrastination. And procrastination is a form of fear. Putting off facing the music. Putting off facing who we are.
Who are we really?
Behind our status, our kudos, our image, our identity and our ego.
This is the fork in the road many of us now find ourselves at. Facing our fears and the ultimate question -
“What am I going to do about it?”
Only you can answer this. You realise that it is irrelevant what your best mate is doing or not doing. It doesn’t matter what some expert is advising, or what you read on a website somewhere. It all comes down to where YOU are right now with your values, your spirituality, your inner voice.
Some may say, “Well that’s all right for you Digger philosophizing in your comfortable environment. You’re not being bombed or shot at.” This is partly true, (although I do have the letters of bailiffs threatening me, debts and hardly any work), but it’s because I’m in this detached position that I’m able to listen to what others have informed us and warned us about throughout history. The great mystics, the prophets, the wise men throughout the ages. Of this negative dark force.
One path is taking the proactive position – sharing this stuff consistently regularly, in every way you can and using every talent and skill you have, with the resources you have. As well as resisting this force at some level.
The other path is just being passive/neutral with all of this information. Just being an observer, a spectator. Seeing how things will pan out (then I’ll do something). Being compliant subservient to this this dark force.
Ultimately you know in your heart exactly what you SHOULD do. Although you may be influenced here n there, that you know precisely what the right thing to do is. There is no third option, no third path, no turning back either.
You know you have to follow the truth, lean towards the light and trust consciousness to help you face your fears. Not be fearless, as this is being reckless and dangerous, but just gradually begin to look fear in the eyes. It is about being honest and realistic. This not about playing hero (ego). This is just being the true character you are and not the moulded fearful individual this force has formed you into.
This is the time for us to embrace this spirituality, because this is ultimately where all this information and knowledge takes us to. Our true selves. Be proud of yourselves having reached this point and have the faith within to take the righteous path.
From TheOneTruth Forum:
Seeing the problem, is seeing the solution!
This is the picture as I see it.
There are two forces at work in this universe: good and evil, or rather ,beneficial and non-beneficial.
We can see these work within ourselves: we can have a good heart or a bad heart.
A good heart is all about others, and a bad heart is all about me.
However, the apparently non-beneficial can be beneficial - if viewed in the right way!
The non-beneficial is a mistaken, limited view (a dream) of who and where we are.
The beneficial is a truthful, limitless view (awakened) knowing who we are and where we are.
Here, we cannot make assumptions about ourselves: we have to be honest.
These two forces work on an external, internal and innermost level and depend on our clarity (or lack of it).
What is needed is a clarity in the seeing, with an open mind.
The enlightened beings are attracted to our open mind and heart, whereas the un-enlightened beings are attracted to our closed minds and hearts...created by our emotions!
Let's see how this could work.
Here is a diagram: (the dotted line represents 'viewing')
CUP---EYE---MIND---ESSENCE.
As we can see, if the senses are clear, and the mind is clear and the essence is clear, we have pure perception = absolute reality!
So what has gone 'wrong'?
Here is our usual view:
CUP---EYE---££$$**mind**@??!!---ESSENCE.
The mind is now not clear =relative reality!
Perception is no longer pure.
What happened in the second case is that our pure view from essence has gone unnoticed, because our attention is now taken up with thoughts and emotions about ourself and outer phenomena, This produces likes and dislikes. We have been ambushed by an idea of “me” and “mine”.
This is how we are as sentient beings. The mind looks out and relates to the world through the thoughts in the mind...we have forgotten our true nature.
This obstruction in the mind is what can be termed “bad”, or “selfish”, or “non-beneficial” or..ignorance!
It is through meditation that the mind can start looking inwards and realise its true nature.
Note: Meditation is actually the practice of investigating what and how things are in the mind, and not merely reading it from a book...
That is what spiritual work is all about.
We are spiritual beings: we are beyond this temporary mind and body, but we have learnt or acquired an identity clinging to this mind and body.
Being told this does not actually help the situation - we have to do some looking ourselves.
Enlightened beings send out blessings to all sentient beings, but it is only spiritual practitioners that have their door open, even just slightly.
We are all spiritual practitioners of some sort: we all get feelings, but if they are not recognised, they are just a temporary event, and we soon fall into our same old ways.
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En-darkened beings also send out blessings, and feed off the emotions of sentient beings.
We are sentient because the picture of our universe is...'It's All about ME'.
The elite of this world know about our selfishness - our self-centred, self-obsessed ways – and they utilise them. They feed us the dream...or nightmare...and we are enslaved! This is what is happening in the world: none of the thoughts in our heads are ours!
This illusory mind takes over our perception.
There is a pyramid system of information in this world that is creating an illusion about our true existence or reality. Each layer of the pyramid does not know what is going on above. This is how the planet is controlled. The few control the many - through ideas.
We have a double illusion: one of our own making, and the other from utilising our self-cherishing behaviour...'It's ALL about ME”. No it's not! It's also about what 'they' want you to believe.
They infiltrate every section of society, creating divisions, misdirecting and building even stronger egos (clinging out of fear), until we think we know what it's all about...?!
And so these evil forces delude us in the physical world, the mental world and the spiritual world.
To me, the spiritual world is the key.
To get people to hate it (I still think I am in charge of my life)
or love it (become fixatedly religious)
or (even more insidious), to see that there is no problem to be addressed because we are gods (which produces indifference and inactivity as there is nothing to investigate or practise).
Remember: there are three poisons in the universe - repulsion, attraction and indifference.
These governs everything.
They control us by making us re-act! If you re-act (get involved) then you are not free: your mind has been infected. We actually know this, but cannot see it clearly.
In truth, these same poisons have another quality that changes everything to enlightened qualities...but 'they' do not want you to investigate this, as to understand this would mean you were free.
As always it's up to us.
In this deceptive world...we have to watch out for trivia!
Yup. I have found that by far the easiest way to gage someones intelligence, ( thus thier ability to reason) is to simply mention Ron Paul. Fu*k all the other bs.Quote:
Originally Posted by tater
I have a friend who was laid off from a corporate job in October. Up until then, she was very busy working and trying to raise three children. She wanted to be a stay-at-home mother, but her partner kept getting laid off for long periods of time. Now he is working again so financially they are more stable, and it's interesting because on her own she has been looking into the problems of debt, fiat currency, Ron Paul and what to do when the SHTF. I hadn't said very much to her about these things as I'd hinted about it in the past and she didn't seem receptive to this information at all.
The PTB better find out some other trick to keep the economy going, because unemployed people have free time to start figuring things out on their own, and they become anti-dollar positive. ;-)