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Horn
That jet might be going 220mph if that, if it impacted anything at the time there would would be large chunks all about the place. You need 500knots to enable the kind of disintegration you are hoping for.
Give it up joboo, no Boeing can do what your asking, its impossible. It is fully conclusive evidence.
You think because your conception of speed = X, then Y is impossible.
I don't think you have the capabilities to definitively say that.
What I do know is they weren't chopping up 180+ people into convincing little bits to withstand meticulous levels of forensic analysis, and hoping nobody would notice anything unusual.
All the passengers magically got into the building from a plane that was headed right there, and suddenly stopped there. Then there's witnesses to this effect who saw the plane coming in, impacting, and nothing flying away.
Big easy button all the way on this. There is nothing that shows a missile did this except for some deceptive loose change pictures compounded with lies.
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joboo
You think because your conception of speed = X, then Y is impossible.
I don't think you have the capabilities to definitively say that.
What I do know is they weren't chopping up 180+ people into convincing little bits to withstand meticulous levels of forensic analysis, and hoping nobody would notice anything unusual.
All the passengers magically got into the building from a plane that was headed right there, and suddenly stopped there. Then there's witnesses to this effect who saw the plane coming in, impacting, and nothing flying away.
Big easy button all the way on this. There is nothing that shows a missile did this except for some deceptive loose change pictures compounded with lies.
The forensic analysis was to determine/match DNA, not manner of death. Those receiving samples had no idea where they were getting it from, this is stupid to even argue as any basis for the "theoretical".
You are truly beyond any hope of recovery in your physics aptitude if you can't determine that the jetliner shown in your video was traveling nowhere close to the speeds required to disintegrate, which is after all the core & THE ONLY THING which could be determined over the internet looking at photos. As everything else is circumstantial to it. The amount of deviation from course at those speeds in a Boeing is any impossibility to correct even with supercomputing abilities the jetliner is Not physically capable to correct the path in the time and distance required by the evidence that remains.. and as it would be a constant necessity to correct that course to target (The land would eat the course up) at altitude.
There was no plane left there, no wing sections, no bodies, no luggage. not even a stray shoe available outside the building.
Which is where the said "plane" crashed.
THE EASY COURSE WAS THE ROOF!
Again your theorem fails to deliver.
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http://ww2.dcmilitary.com/dcmilitary.../12279-1.shtml
^ They knew what they were working on. You can't fake a high impact effect on bone fragments like that with a meat grinder or an axe.
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Keep it up jooboo. What with all your evidence and logic, I'm 99% convinced it was a missile.
Why would they go to all that trouble hijacking a 757, doing a huge u-turn that took over an hour lumbering around in US airspace, and smash it into the most strongly defended and secured building on earth when all they had to do was push a button to launch a missile?
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Santa
Keep it up jooboo. What with all your evidence and logic, I'm 99% convinced it was a missile.
Why would they go to all that trouble hijacking a 757, doing a huge u-turn that took over an hour lumbering around in US airspace, and smash it into the most strongly defended and secured building on earth when all they had to do was push a button to launch a missile?
Joboo is busy trashing another thread and asked me to respond for him:
"But but but, how do you know it was a button? It could have been a toggle switch or a pull chain. If you're not sure of this, then how can you be sure it was a missile? Can't your small brain see the inescapable logic of my argument? I've dumbed this down for you as far as I can. Because, I'm really a nice guy and you should believe me."
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Santa
Keep it up jooboo. What with all your evidence and logic, I'm 99% convinced it was a missile.
Why would they go to all that trouble hijacking a 757, doing a huge u-turn that took over an hour lumbering around in US airspace, and smash it into the most strongly defended and secured building on earth when all they had to do was push a button to launch a missile?
i'm still digesting what the General said, but i tend to believe his statement about the Pentagon.
so if no airplane hit the Pentagon - what happened to the people on the flight ?
if it was a made-up flight, how do they shut up the airline employees ?
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The largest documented forensic analysis project in history, yet nobody knew what they were working on, and thy couldn't tell from the bone fragments the whole thing was faked in some offsite location with hatchets, cleavers, meat grinders etc.
They got all those people off the plane, processed all those the bodies, scooped it all up, drove it all over, and started scattering it all over the place amongst fake debris.
Sounds like a bullet proof plan with no hopes of being found out.
How far fetched does it need to get to uphold the magic missile?
Pretty far it seems.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSqTEkpVzhghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSqTEkpVzhg
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Video of Cruise missile hitting Pentagon on 9/11 leaked
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Suppressed video released 10 years after 9/11 attacks in the United States clearly shows the Pentagon attack was a Cruise type missile, either a Tomahawk or Russian/Soviet Granit as described by former officer of the Soviet nuclear intelligence Dimitri Khalezov.
The little explosions which have been circled in the video clearly point out that "there is no huge jet" hammering into the Pentagon, Khalezov explains.
According to the official U.S. government narration, an American Airline Boeing 757 struck the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.
The Boeing 757 is a mid-size, narrow-body twin-engine jet airliner manufactured by Boeing Commercial Airplanes. Its dimension specification include: Wing span 38.05m (124ft 10in), length 47.32m (155ft 3in), height 13.56m (44ft 6in). Wing area 185.3m2 (1994sq ft).
The author of "The third truth about September 11" says every time he uploads such videos on the internet “my YouTube gets deleted or the hits go down.”
He describes a hole that appeared in a Pentagon wall right after the attack. "Look at that little hole. No way a jet [can] fit in there. Where's the wings? Where's the engines?”
The researcher says when the footage is observed frame by frame it shows that "the explosion happens before the 'jet' even appears.”
After 11 September 2001, Khalezov undertook extensive research on the collapse of the three World Trade Center Towers. The research is claimed to demonstrate that the three towers were demolished by three underground thermo-nuclear explosions.
Moreover, Khalezov claims that he knew about the in-built so-called "emergency nuclear demolitions scheme" for the Twin Towers as long ago as the 1980's, while a serviceman in the Soviet Special Control Service.
http://www.presstv.ir/usdetail/196559.html
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Amazing video Serpo! That is definitely a non-winged missile hitting the Pentagon, a cruise missile. Government lied to us on 911 - surprise!
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mamboni
Government lied to us
Its what they are good at..........
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Khalezov says it was a Russian Granit missile stolen from the Kursk submarine that sank in the arctic, and that missile was fitted with a thermonuclear warhead that was disarmed. He says it was fired from a ship off the Atlantic coast. There was a Boeing 747 that approached the Pentagon from the same angle as the missile at the same time, and flew over the Pentagon as the missile hit. This diverted everyone's attention from the plane to the explosion from the missile, the plane flew away, and set the stage for the claim that it was the plane that hit the Pentagon.
You can download Khalezov's book The Third Truth here:
http://www.911-truth.net/Dimitri_Kha...hapters_v2.zip
This will get Joboo fired up, because Khalezov says all three WTC buildings that came down were demolished by 150KT nukes placed 50 meters below their lowest levels, and were part of a demolition plan that was required when they were built. I haven't read a more believable explanation of 911 than the one in the book at the link above.
Hatha
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joboo
The largest documented forensic analysis project in history, yet nobody knew what they were working on, and thy couldn't tell from the bone fragments the whole thing was faked in some offsite location with hatchets, cleavers, meat grinders etc.
They got all those people off the plane, processed all those the bodies, scooped it all up, drove it all over, and started scattering it all over the place amongst fake debris.
Sounds like a bullet proof plan with no hopes of being found out.
How far fetched does it need to get to uphold the magic missile?
Pretty far it seems.
The larger the operation, the easier it is to compartmentalize. Information is on a need to know basis.
Your logic is as rusty and chopped up with meat grinders as the evidence you've thus far supplied.
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Santa
The larger the operation, the easier it is to compartmentalize. Information is on a need to know basis.
Your logic is as rusty and chopped up with meat grinders as the evidence you've thus far supplied.
The more complicated the operation is the greater the opportunities become for being found out...not the opposite.
Especially if all they had to do was press an autopilot button, and be done with it.
Everyone can express an opinion, it doesn't prove anything. Maybe post up your smoking gun evidence with links proving it was missile.
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I've always thought the easiest way to set charges in the twin towers, would be in the elevator shafts.
The charges could have been placed in one night, being rolled into the elevators and passed up through the access panels while on manual operation.
I know there were probably several elevators in the buildings and they all could have been placed at the same time.
Most elevators are built in the center of the structual supports of a building and there is plenty of space between the elevator and shaft walls to put whatever you would need. I know, I've built many.
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Serpo
Its what they are good at..........
you don't make it into management, on either the government side or the commercial side, unless you have PROVEN that you are a "team player" - i.e. that you are able to grasp the "team lie" -which is often un-written - and to 'go along' with it 24/7.
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Hatha Sunahara
Khalezov says it was a Russian Granit missile stolen from the Kursk submarine that sank in the arctic, and that missile was fitted with a thermonuclear warhead that was disarmed. He says it was fired from a ship off the Atlantic coast. There was a Boeing 747 that approached the Pentagon from the same angle as the missile at the same time, and flew over the Pentagon as the missile hit. This diverted everyone's attention from the plane to the explosion from the missile, the plane flew away, and set the stage for the claim that it was the plane that hit the Pentagon.
You can download Khalezov's book The Third Truth here:
http://www.911-truth.net/Dimitri_Kha...hapters_v2.zip
This will get Joboo fired up, because Khalezov says all three WTC buildings that came down were demolished by 150KT nukes placed 50 meters below their lowest levels, and were part of a demolition plan that was required when they were built. I haven't read a more believable explanation of 911 than the one in the book at the link above.
Hatha
gee ,thanks for the book Hatha
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Originally Posted by
Hatha Sunahara
Khalezov says it was a Russian Granit missile stolen from the Kursk submarine that sank in the arctic, and that missile was fitted with a thermonuclear warhead that was disarmed. He says it was fired from a ship off the Atlantic coast. There was a Boeing 747 that approached the Pentagon from the same angle as the missile at the same time, and flew over the Pentagon as the missile hit. This diverted everyone's attention from the plane to the explosion from the missile, the plane flew away, and set the stage for the claim that it was the plane that hit the Pentagon.
You can download Khalezov's book The Third Truth here:
http://www.911-truth.net/Dimitri_Kha...hapters_v2.zip
This will get Joboo fired up, because Khalezov says all three WTC buildings that came down were demolished by 150KT nukes placed 50 meters below their lowest levels, and were part of a demolition plan that was required when they were built. I haven't read a more believable explanation of 911 than the one in the book at the link above.
Hatha
Radiation...was it detected? Kinda hard to get rid of it, as it tends to leave a fingerprint.
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gunDriller
you don't make it into management, on either the government side or the commercial side, unless you have PROVEN that you are a "team player" - i.e. that you are able to grasp the "team lie" -which is often un-written - and to 'go along' with it 24/7.
living a lie 24/7........................must give a new meaning too your life.......
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joboo
Radiation...was it detected? Kinda hard to get rid of it, as it tends to leave a fingerprint.
Where have you been for the last 10 yrs.....in a cave?
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Originally Posted by
EE_
I've always thought the easiest way to set charges in the twin towers, would be in the elevator shafts.
The charges could have been placed in one night, being rolled into the elevators and passed up through the access panels while on manual operation.
I know there were probably several elevators in the buildings and they all could have been placed at the same time.
Most elevators are built in the center of the structual supports of a building and there is plenty of space between the elevator and shaft walls to put whatever you would need. I know, I've built many.
It was also the largest elevator upgrade project in history as indicated by architectural digests/mags.
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Serpo
Where have you been for the last 10 yrs.....in a cave?
What does it have to do with me? Make your point as to why. It's all that's required here.
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joboo
What does it have to do with me? Make your point as to why. It's all that's required here.
It just shows total ignorance of 9/11 issues..................
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Instead of mocking people, and wasting site storage with a huge copy/paste. Just say "they did find radiation".
Four words. Save everyone's time v.s. getting all emotional about it.
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Serpo
It just shows total ignorance of 9/11 issues..................
Total ignorance? hmm..really?
Maybe drop the drama level down a bit?
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halo...do you REALLY need to get bitch slapped over this AGAIN?? You were bent over the table so many time by pat colo over this at gim its laughable....halophyte...juristic preson... what a fraud...what a glutton for another public beating hahahaaa
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JDRock
halo...do you REALLY need to get bitch slapped over this AGAIN?? You were bent over the table so many time by pat colo over this at gim its laughable....halophyte...juristic preson... what a fraud...what a glutton for another public beating hahahaaa
You have no idea what you're talking about. You think you do, but you're guessing at best. Reason being I do know.
And yet AGAIN...the pathetic character swipes come out. Cheap shots are for losers. Keep it on topic. Thanks.
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The more complicated the operation is the greater the opportunities become for being found out...not the opposite.
Especially if all they had to do was press an autopilot button, and be done with it.
Everyone can express an opinion, it doesn't prove anything. Maybe post up your smoking gun evidence with links proving it was missile.
We don't even know with any certainty whether the President was born in the US or Kenya, so how the hell can we possibly ever know what the Pentagram was hit with? All factual info is released by the same fucktards that blew the building up in the first place.
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joboo
Instead of mocking people, and wasting site storage with a huge copy/paste. Just say "they did find radiation".
Four words. Save everyone's time v.s. getting all emotional about it.
Dont tell me how to post
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joboo
Instead of mocking people, and wasting site storage with a huge copy/paste. Just say "they did find radiation".
Four words. Save everyone's time v.s. getting all emotional about it.
After nearly 400 posts on this thread you tell me this....hahahahahhhhhahaaaahahahahhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaa aa
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Santa
We don't even know with any certainty whether the President was born in the US or Kenya, so how the hell can we possibly ever know what the Pentagram was hit with? All factual info is released by the same fucktards that blew the building up in the first place.
That's for sure, who knows what's is real or fake, but the reasoning still stands that the more people, and processes that are drawn into it, the greater the risk becomes. Put yourself in their position.
I would take the easy route, v.s getting an elaborate plan like this together, and hoping everything works out at every stage without a hitch. The level of planning, and fabrication required between the two scenarios is unfathomably monumental by comparison. So many steps involved in such a tight timeline to pull it all off.
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Serpo
After nearly 400 posts on this thread you tell me this....hahahahahhhhhahaaaahahahahhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaa aa
If you could point out where I copy, and pasted huge amounts of text rather than simply typing words to convey the message?
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By Christopher Bollyn
5-8-7 "AMEC Construction Management, a subsidiary of the British engineering firm AMEC, renovated Wedge One of the Pentagon before 9-11 and cleaned it up afterward. AMEC had also renovated Silverstein's WTC 7, which collapsed mysteriously on 9-11, and then headed the cleanup of the WTC site afterward. The AMEC construction firm is currently in the process of closing all its offices in the United States." Radiation Shows 9-11 Pentagon
Hit Not By 757: Something With DU? By Christopher Bollyn More damning fuel for the funeral pyre of the 9-11 'official story' that is completely dead by now. "Around the Pentagon there were reports of high radiation levels after 9-11. American Free Press has documentation that radiation levels in Alexandria and Leesburg, Va., were much higher than usual on 9-11 and persisted for at least one week afterward. In Alexandria, seven miles south of the burning Pentagon, a doctor with years of experience working with radiation issues found elevated radiation levels on 9-11 of 35 to 52 counts per minute (cpm) using a "Radalert 50" Geiger counter. One week after 9-11, in Leesburg, 33 miles northwest of the Pentagon, soil readings taken in a residential neighborhood showed even higher readings of 75 to 83 cpm. "That's pretty high," Cindy Folkers of the Washing ton-based Nuclear Information and Resource Service (NIRS) told AFP. Folkers said 7 to 12 cpm is normal background radiation inside the NIRS building, and that outdoor readings of between 12 to 20 cpm are normal in Chevy Chase, Md., outside Washington. The Radalert 50, Folkers said, is primarily a gamma ray detector and "detects only 7 percent of the beta radiation and even less of the [very short lived] alpha." This suggests that actual radiation levels may have been significantly higher than those detected by the doctor's Geiger counter. "The question is, why?" Folkers said. If the radiation came from the explosion and fire at the Pentagon, it most likely did not come from a Boeing 757, which is the type of aircraft that allegedly hit the building. --- "Boeing has never used DU on either the 757 or the 767, and we no longer use it on the 747," Leslie M. Nichols, product spokesperson for Boeing's 767, told AFP. http://rense.com/general76/300789.jpg At the Pentagon, AMEC cleaned up this lie http://rense.com/general76/300790.jpg and, at WTC7, AMEC cleaned up this lie. Next, in 2004,
AMEC has announced it is totally leaving country Depleted Uranium Released During Canadian Plane Crash Little-Known Use of DU In Commercial Jets Exposed [and another little known piece of the Pentagon hit puzzle] By Christopher Bollyn The recent crash of a Boeing 747 in Halifax, Canada, raises a number of questions about the use of depleted uranium (DU) in airplanes, public health concerns and the 9-11 attacks. When a Boeing 747 crashed and burned on takeoff at Halifax International Airport in Nova Scotia, Canada, on Oct. 14, an official accident investigator said the aircraft probably contained radioactive depleted uranium. Bill Fowler, an investigator with the Transportation Safety Board of Canada, said the plane was likely equipped with DU as counterweights in its wings and rudder. "A 747 may contain as much as 1,500 kilograms [3,300 lbs.] of the material," the Canadian Press reported. It took 60 firefighters and 20 trucks about three hours to control the fire. Fowler said: "there is no threat or concern" about DU exposure to those working on the wreckage. "That's baloney," Marion Fulk, a retired staff scientist from Lawrence Livermore National Lab, told American Free Press. Fulk, 83, is currently researching how low-level ionizing radiation causes cancer, birth defects and a host of other health problems. Burning depleted uranium creates a "whole mess of oxides," Fulk said, "which is what makes it so wicked biologically." In 1988, American physicist Robert L. Parker wrote that in the worst- case scenario, the crash of a Boeing 747 could affect the health of 250,000 people through exposure to uranium oxide particles. "Extended tests by the Navy and NASA showed that the temperature of the fireball in a plane crash can reach 1,200 degrees Celsius. Such temperatures are high enough to cause very rapid oxidation of depleted uranium," he wrote. "Large pieces of uranium will oxidize rapidly and will sustain slow combustion when heated in air to temperatures of about 500 degrees Celsius," Paul Lowenstein, technical director and vice-president of Nuclear Metals Inc., the company that has supplied DU to Boeing, wrote in a 1993 article. Now, some researchers are turning to the large number of sick firefighters and workers from the World Trade Center site and reports of elevated radiation levels around the Pentagon after 9-11. They contend that the Boeing 757 and 767 aircraft involved in the attacks may have also contained depleted uranium counterweights. PENTAGON RADIATION LEVELS Around the Pentagon there were reports of high radiation levels after 9-11. American Free Press has documentation that radiation levels in Alexandria and Leesburg, Va., were much higher than usual on 9-11 and persisted for at least one week afterward. In Alexandria, seven miles south of the burning Pentagon, a doctor with years of experience working with radiation issues found elevated radiation levels on 9-11 of 35 to 52 counts per minute (cpm) using a "Radalert 50" Geiger counter. One week after 9-11, in Leesburg, 33 miles northwest of the Pentagon, soil readings taken in a residential neighborhood showed even higher readings of 75 to 83 cpm. "That's pretty high," Cindy Folkers of the Washing ton-based Nuclear Information and Resource Service (NIRS) told AFP. Folkers said 7 to 12 cpm is normal background radiation inside the NIRS building, and that outdoor readings of between 12 to 20 cpm are normal in Chevy Chase, Md., outside Washington. The Radalert 50, Folkers said, is primarily a gamma ray detector and "detects only 7 percent of the beta radiation and even less of the alpha." This suggests that actual radiation levels may have been significantly higher than those detected by the doctor's Geiger counter. "The question is, why?" Folkers said. If the radiation came from the explosion and fire at the Pentagon, it most likely did not come from a Boeing 757, which is the type of aircraft that allegedly hit the building. "Boeing has never used DU on either the 757 or the 767, and we no longer use it on the 747," Leslie M. Nichols, product spokesperson for Boeing's 767, told AFP. "Sometime ago, we switched to tungsten, because it is heavier, more readily available and more cost effective." The cost effectiveness argument is debatable. A waste product of U.S. nuclear weapons and energy facilities, DU is reportedly provided by the Department of Energy to national and foreign armament companies free of charge. DU is used in a wide variety of missiles in the U.S. arsenal as an armor penetrator. It is also used in the bunker-buster bombs and cruise missiles. Because no photographic evidence of a Boeing 757 hitting the Pentagon is available to the public, 9-11 skeptics and independent researchers claim something else, such as a missile, struck the Pentagon. A white flash, not unlike those seen in videos of the planes as they struck the twin towers, occurs when a DU penetrator hits a target. Photographs from the Pentagon reveal that large round holes were punched through six walls in the three outer rings. The outside wall is 24 inches thick with a six-inch limestone exterior, eight inches of brick and 10 inches of steel reinforced concrete; the other walls are 18 inches thick. The object that hit the Pentagon on 9-11 penetrated several feet of reinforced concrete, leaving holes with diameters between 11 and 16 feet. Bill Bellinger, then head of the EPA's Radiation Program for Region III, which includes Virginia, told AFP that he had received information of elevated radiation levels and contacted EPA officials at the Pentagon. "I was concerned about that," Bellinger said. "I didn't disregard it at all." Bellinger told AFP that he thought the radiation was from DU in the aircraft. Bellinger, who was based in Philadelphia, did not personally visit the Pentagon site and said that EPA personnel at the site had not reported high levels of radioactivity. However, the EPA official who Bellinger said had worked at the Pentagon, Craig Conklin, now at FEMA, told AFP that he had not been involved at the site, "directly or indirectly." Workers and FEMA officials at the Pentagon were seen wearing special protective outfits and respirators. FEMA photos show the workers going through decontamination procedures. Bellinger told AFP that the Department of Defense was responsible for on-site safety procedures at the Pentagon. In New York, however, considerably less attention was paid to the health risks the burning rubble posed to workers at the WTC site. A recent screening done by Mount Sinai Hospital found that nearly three- quarters of the 1,138 first responders had experienced respiratory problems while working at Ground Zero, and half had respiratory ailments that persisted for an average of eight months afterward. "We were dumfounded by how many people were sick, and how sick they were, and how sick they still are," said Robin Herbert, co-director of the program. Thomas Cahill, professor of physics and atmospheric sciences, analyzed the plumes from a station one mile north of the burning WTC rubble. "The small particles worried me the most," Cahill told AFP, referring to the sub-micron-size particles, which can pass through the filters of respirators. Cahill said the high levels of silicon, vanadium, nickel and sulfuric acid concerned him. The fine concrete dust, he said, acted "like Drano" in the lungs of the workers, where it irritated and burned the wet membranes. Until Dec. 15, the pile was so hot, a piece of paper would ignite on contact with the rubble, Cahill said. "You had the workers working on top of a huge incinerator in the rush to get Wall Street going again," Cahill said. "It was really dumb. "Only 30 percent of the firefighters working at the site in October were wearing any protection at all," he said. A class action lawsuit on behalf of more than 800 people who suffer health effects was filed against WTC leaseholder Larry Silverstein and the companies that supervised the cleanup: AMEC, Bovis Lend Lease, Turner, and Tully Construction. The suit was filed on Sept. 10, the last day set by a federal three- year statute of limitations for lawsuits related to 9-11. "Under state labor law, employers have a duty to provide a safe place to work," lead attorney David Worby said. "They violated that duty. Everyone knew what was on the ground." As many as 100,000 workers at Ground Zero and hundreds of thousands more people in the area were exposed to airborne toxins, Worby said. "If you expose a person to this amount of lead, cadmium, benzene, asbestos and glass shards, they are going to be sick," he said. "More people could die from this than died on the day of 9-11." AMEC Construction Management, a subsidiary of the British engineering firm AMEC, renovated Wedge One of the Pentagon before 9-11 and cleaned it up afterward. AMEC had also renovated Silverstein's WTC 7, which collapsed mysteriously on 9-11, and then headed the cleanup of the WTC site afterward. The AMEC construction firm is currently in the process of closing all its offices in the United States. http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...d_uranium.html
http://rense.com/general76/rad.htm
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That's for sure, who knows what's is real or fake, but the reasoning still stands that the more people, and processes that are drawn into it, the greater the risk becomes. Put yourself in their position.
No, your reasoning does not stand. The larger and more complex the structure, the more opportunity for rats to infest it.
The same rats that pulled this crime spree off are the same rats that OWN the press, the military, and the government.
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You were not allowed to bring a geiger counter to the 911 site in lower manhattan for a number of years while the clean up was in progress.l That's how you hide radiation.
H Bombs (thermonuclear devices) are relatively clean. Compared to the early first generation 1950s and 1960s nuclear devices.
I haven't heard from or about Khalezov since around March 2011. He just dropped out of sight. His friend Viktor Bout was extradited to the US from Thailand. I haven't heard from or about him either. Khalezov says that 911 was planned by Mike Hariri, an Israeli Mossad Officer who is also a big hero in Israel. He says Hariri arranged for explosions to happen in the towers where the planes supposedly struck. Hariri was supposedly in Bangkok the day after 911 where he and Khalezov had breakfast. Very interesting story. You should read the book The Third Truth. I believe him.
Hatha
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No, your reasoning does not stand. The larger and more complex the structure, the more opportunity for rats to infest it.
The same rats that pulled this crime spree off are the same rats that OWN the press, the military, and the government.
It does stand. You're assuming everyone involved can be controlled in what they think, observe, and say over the course of their lives.
Not to mention all of this had to be meticulously orchestrated on a tight timeline without anything going wrong at any point.
The more links you put in the chain the weaker it becomes.
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You were not allowed to bring a geiger counter to the 911 site in lower manhattan for a number of years while the clean up was in progress.l That's how you hide radiation.
H Bombs (thermonuclear devices) are relatively clean. Compared to the early first generation 1950s and 1960s nuclear devices.
I haven't heard from or about Khalezov since around March 2011. He just dropped out of sight. His friend Viktor Bout was extradited to the US from Thailand. I haven't heard from or about him either. Khalezov says that 911 was planned by Mike Hariri, an Israeli Mossad Officer who is also a big hero in Israel. He says Hariri arranged for explosions to happen in the towers where the planes supposedly struck. Hariri was supposedly in Bangkok the day after 911 where he and Khalezov had breakfast. Very interesting story. You should read the book The Third Truth. I believe him.
Hatha
What about the pentagon? How does one prevent anyone on the highway right there from pulling over, and measuring for radiation signatures?
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High-Ranking Army
Officer - Missile Hit Pentagon
Radiation Expert Claims High-Radiation Readings
Near Pentagon After 9/11 Indicates
Depleted Uranium Used
By Greg Szymanski
8-19-5
| Two high profile radiation experts concur Pentagon strike involved use of a missile. Also Geiger counter readings right after the attack shows high levels of radiation 12 miles away from Pentagon crash site. A radiation expert and high-ranking Army Major, who once headed the military's depleted uranium project, both contend the Pentagon was hit by missile, not a commercial jetliner, adding high radiation readings after the strike indicate depleted uranium also may have been used. "I'm not an explosives or crash site expert, but I am highly knowledgeable in causes and effects related to nuclear radiation contamination. What happened at the Pentagon is highly suspicious, leading me to believe a missile with a depleted uranium warhead may have been used," said radiation expert Leuren Moret in a telephone conversation this week from her Berkeley, CA home. |
http://rense.com/general67/radfdf.htm
An air traffic controller from Washington has testified seeing on radar an object flying at about 800 kilometers per hour, moving initially toward the White House, then turning sharply toward the Pentagon, where it seemed to crash. The air traffic controller has testified that the characteristics of the flight were such that it could only have been a military projectile.
Several hundred witnesses have claimed that they head “a shrill noise like the noise of a fighter-bomber”, but nothing like the noise of a civilian aircraft.
Eye-witnesses have said that they saw “something like a cruise missile with wings” or a small flying object “like a plane carrying eight or twelve persons”.
http://consciouslifenews.com/911-off...s-lie/1134651/
- CNN Reporter: “There is NO Evidence of a Plane Having Crashed Anywhere Near the Pentagon”
- USAF Witness: There was “a strange lack of visible debris…moments after impact”
- You Can’t Fit a Boeing 757 into Hole that is Only 16 Feet Wide
- It’s aerodynamically impossible to fly a Boeing 757 at 20 feet above the ground for half a mile
- Multiple witnesses provide evidence of a north side approach to the Pentagon
- Multiple witnesses saw a low-flying plane fly past the Pentagon
- The five downed light poles were preplanned and staged
- In an interview with Parade Magazine shortly after 9/11, Donald Rumsfeld said that a MISSILE was used to damage the Pentagon
- Timothy Roemer, Former 9/11 Commission Member, said that the Pentagon was “pried open by a MISSILE”
- Expert claims that a high radiation reading near Pentagon indicates that a “depleted uranium warhead may have been used”