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Damn, ShamShilli was on live with Rense tonight, missed it; archive won't be posted for several hours minimum. :( Says a lot that ShamShilli's apparently free, doing interviews (Sham's show is on Rense network... :rolleyes:); and NOT in FBI custody like the other "co-conspirators".
FWIW, JFriend reposted an interview with "Militia Movement Founder" JB Campbell which he conducted a few days ago. The first version JF posted wasn't viable due to JBC's sound level being a small fraction of JF's; could barely hear JBC. Sound has been corrected now & reposted. Introductory 34 mins inside:
The Realist Report – JB Campbell
I've long distrusted JBC, now a staff writer for 40%-Disinfo-Duff's VT, as JBC rambles freely about violence/shooting LEOs who come at you; he has an ongoing "platform" & routine interviews; yet JBC remains mysteriously unmolested... :|~
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was that santilli guy the one in the car driving and talking on the phone, because that guy was a bad actor.
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^ not sure of the car/cell phone video you mean; but ShamShilli looks 40-something; brown hair, goatee. Image search his name.
Re the "hospital on lockdown" biz; http://www.activistpost.com/2016/01/...-the-norm.html
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yeah that sounds like the guy. I got some handy cam or phone to net streaming on that YT now.
They look like they are at a motel atm.
Its actually Santilli show I'm watching. Well there you go.
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you'll need to go back in this thread & find that YT which VEastwood made, 15-20 mins IIRC, "the real biography of pete santilli exposed" or similar title. There's also a couple recent radio shows VE posted "exposing" Shamshilli. http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com < scroll down to where you see his shows listed.
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so with FAUX News on (muted) for the past several hours now, & seeing continued kosher-silence re OR; I finally decided to check fauxnews.com for their headlines... low and behold, big headline at top!
Is FAUX running a whole different game between their teeeveee & internet "news" coverage, based on their diff audience demographics?
Or do they see my IP is outside the US; and serve up different shite from those accessing their site from inside the belly of the beast? Doesn't seem to affect their teeeveee presence; as I said I'm watching their int'l tv edition, and the OR story doesn't exist... only prez dog & pony show, and puff pieces; heartwarming story of blind athlete; dog rides on back of motorbike, holding owner's umbrella, no less! :o :D
What do yous in USA see: http://foxnews.com ???
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as far as I can tell is the same front page inside and out. No obvious difference in layout.
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By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
We are told that LaVoy Finicum was killed. We will include what we can as things become clearer. We offer our condolences to the Finicum family but we also accept that Finicum had long planned a “suicide by cop.” We don’t know him personally and now never will and thus don’t know what was in his heart.
As for the Bundy “klan,” VT is singularly opposed to groups such as this one, right wing totalitarian extremists who favor a government that would bring VT and its veterans into armed conflict to prevent. The Bundy/Oregon militia’s race hatred, religious extremism and tasteless ignorance is inexcusable.
Our own knowledgeable sources confirm that one police informant was arrested with the group today as part of a cover operation. We will watch events carefully, particularly waiting to see what Alex Jones has to say.
I still remember two minor episodes that marked the death of the Michigan militia, the largest ever organized in America. I believe it may have been Thomas R. Wayne who said at a militia gathering: “Will all FBI informants please leave the room.” Before he could get the next sentence out, he found himself alone.
More or less officially, the Michigan militia disbanded when George “W” Bush took office stating: “With a man like this in office, there is no need to protect the American people, not when George W. Bush can do it better than we can.
No more telling words were ever spoken and these are the words.
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Will Cowboys and Indians unite in Oregon – for revolution?
By Kevin Barrett on January 23, 2016
Prof. Tony Hall used this week’s False Flag Weekly News (FFWN) as a launchpad for a very important discussion: How can “cowboys” (the Bundy ranchers occupying government property in Oregon) and “Indians” (indigenous people who have been ripped off by ranchers and settlers, and currently depend on the federal government) unite for positive change…maybe even revolution? Can we beat the New World Order’s Divide-and-Conquer strategy by uniting with folks across ethnic, religious, and worldview lines?
Tony cited a Gawker.com story on the Bundy situation…and was upbraided by Steve Wolf, who I like to think is representative of the highly intelligent viewers we draw at FFWN.
-Kevin Barrett, Veterans Today Editor
From Steve Wolf:
Dear Kevin and Tony
I wouldn’t write if I didn’t care; I wouldn’t listen if I didn’t mostly agree. But Tony you fell bad for the Gawker’s lies. That quote was stripped from a context that reveals the opposite to be the intent of the Bundys. Ammon Bundy and other leaders have repeatedly and from the very start recognized that the Paiute suffered the same ‘federal overreach’ they had; they have repeatedly called for co-involvement of the Paiute in both their informal interviews and official statements. And finally, the semi-official PPN Articles of Resolution prominently includes the Paiute as equal claimants. The Bundys note the pertinent identities and difference: the corporate-state and everybody else. The Gawker, like most hip lazy lefty white media, proffers the usual divide-and-conquer categories (cowboy and Injun).
It is true the Paiute have not recognized the Bundy offer. Either they are as beholden to US demands as Canada or the BLM workers of Burns, or they only watch mainstream media. How many times do the Bundys have to say it? It must be wearisome. They are not claiming land for the ranchers, except that which has been extorted; they are claiming federal lands for the county, to be administered and managed by the county and the Paiute together to the betterment of the community. The Bundys do not buy into the categories the bigoted left puts them into. They understand far more about history and about constitutional principle than their critics.
In your reports about this subject, you neglect the most important background, the main interest of the corporate-state: the uranium on the Hammonds land. (Gold on Bundys). You also neglected the truly terrorizing tactics pursued by the Feds over decades to strip this land from the Hammonds (and water-extortion that got them dozens of other ranchers to sell their lands pennies-on-the-dime.) The Refuge center was the center of operations for these land-grabs, that is why Bundy occupied it peacefully and turned it to the County Resource Center. With records there he is starting to sift through the web of fraudulent land transfers to try to restore some balance. How far he can go depends upon the help he gets from other claimants, including the Paiute.
Please read the PPN’s Articles of Resolution. They make three “requests”. They are seeking due process and release for the Hammonds, they want the FBI to investigate blatant corruption in the Hammond trial, including threats and suppression of evidence, and thirdly, most importantly, they wish a return to constitutional principle in the issue of land ownership. They demand this be addressed first by stripping it from the federal government and then by turning it over to the county to be administered and managed by the residents and the Paiute in equal measure according to the values of the community (the whole community is what is implied.)
There’s false flags afoot too. You should know the media twists Bundy as much as it twists Assad or the Prophet Muhammad. Bundys is not a militia group first of all. Rather, sparks are flying from the airport turned into a fortress by the FBI. They were caught dressed as militia snooping about the Armory, and are the best suspects for false flags in town. This was dramatically revealed by the longstanding Fire Chief, who resigned to protest Judge Grasty’s evident corruption and cover-up of the FBI role and the Fed-State-County intransigence about permitting any kind of local dialogue with the Bundy group.
That’s the Feds for ya, (and its lower fiefdoms)- and the Fed controlled left press misses it all. Everything you plead of Bundy, outreach, unity, constitutional principle applied universally and in earnest- – especially the call for unity against a corrupt corporate-state -HAS ALREADY BEEN ANNOUNCED, has already been pleaded by Bundy. That you are unaware is a simple matter of your sources.
Most egregiously Gawker picked up the Oregonian line (these guys are bad news) that the occupiers ‘rifled’ thru the Paiute artifacts, that they had no care for the ‘past’ but only the ‘present’ and further that the puppet-head of the Paiute, Charlotte Rodrique, was ‘worried’ about the condition of the artifacts now that the ‘white’ guys were there.
Well she should have worried a long time ago. The artifacts have been sitting – as Bundy’s group found out and documented – in rat shit since 1984. The Bundy group has called to the Paiute to come and claim and care for what is rightfully theirs. They mean the artifacts, and they mean the land. If their voices do not make it to the Paiute, whose fault is that? If the alternative press doesn’t cover this, who will?
I’ll link here to the C4CF announcement about the Paiute’s artifacts, with video footage making pretty clear who is caring for what. Sad to say, Ms Rodrique’s record of expressing the Paiute’s interest looks shoddy at best. This tribe could best regain some semblance of sovereignty by standing with the Bundys, just as he has asked them to do since day one. We all need to stand up as people, first.
For more links, evidence, background, and commentary see my blog, which mostly is about events in the Middle East though I recently have turned to Oregon. I am an Ottoman historian by professional training, but more concerned with present events these days. That means I love your Islamophobia stuff too. A lot of twisting of categories in that discourse too of course.
Anyway, despite this event-specific critique, I really cheer you both and support your efforts wholeheartedly.
all best wishes,
Steve Wolf
Tony Hall replies:
23 January, 2016
Hello Steve Wolf;
Thank you for your very informative response to our brief discussion of the Oregon land dispute. This dispute is obviously part of a larger popular movement of resistance to the plague of federal criminality on many fronts these days.
I would like to respond to you more fully in some sort of exchange that Kevin might publish in Veterans Today.
I was able to locate the Articles of Resolution from the Pacific Patriots Network. In my first run through, however, I couldn’t find the Redress of Grievance document. Could you please help me locate that. If you could please help me understand more deeply the politics of alliance and antagonism between the different patriot groups, factions, and leaders, I’d also appreciate that.
You obviously have considerable expertise on this important story, much more than me, I’m sure. An article by Paul Craig Roberts helped me see the importance of the Patriots’ stance. I did not take my criticism of it lightly.
The watchman video with the discussion of custodianship of the artifacts is very significant. Thank you for including that. Who, please, is Blaine Cooper and how is he situated in the mix?
Your reference to the Paiute as one among a list of “claimants” is problematic for me. From whom would the Paiute “claim” their land. It seems to me the federal government is one of the parties that have a claim against the Paiute. In Canada we have taken to referring to “First Nations,” which helps put things in perspective, historically, constitutionally and ethically.
The “Articles of Resolution” offer to the Paiute to take control of contested federal land in partnership with Harney County bears careful consideration. In theory the federal government should be a kind of protector for the Native Americans against the incursions of local settler governments, including those of the state of Oregon and Harney County. Obviously the federal government has strayed from that responsibility. But the constitutional principles, the theory if you like, cannot and should not be kicked aside without careful consideration.
To ask the Paiute simply to ignore the history of federal treaties with the First Nations and to become in an instant trusting partners with the lowest level of settler governments is rather unrealistic given the survivors’ history of direct experience with one of the most gruesome sagas of genocide ever. From the perspective of the First Nations, there is not a lot of reason to look well on invading cohorts of ranchers, miners, loggers, etc. That legacy has to be acknowledged first if it is to be in some way transcended.
Who would speak on behalf of the First Nations in this situation. The colonizing forces have organized it so that elected officials on federal reservations are essentially agents of the federal government living in communities often 90% dependent on federal transfer payments. Its not a pretty picture.
But that’s not the end of the story. There are First Nations people that have made stands against the federal authority, most famously in recent times at Wounded Knee in 1975. One of their martyrs, Leonard Peltier, remains incarcerated to this day in federal penitentiary. By far and away Peltier is USA’s most famous political prisoner. All Soviet school children were not too long ago taught his name. Will Obama grant Peltier some sort of pardon when he leaves office? Clinton didn’t. Certainly Bush didn’t. Might Obama? Maybe the Patriots could open up that issue to start the ball rolling on some sort of political accord with the First Nations.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont...016/01/sts.jpgMohawk activist Splitting The Sky being arrested in his attempt to conduct a citizen’s arrest of former US President George W. Bush. Calgary Alberta, 17 March, 2009
Kevin Barrett and I have worked closely with Splitting The Sky who embodied the AIM heritage of anti-federalist, pro-internationalist First Nations politics. He was thrust into the spotlight after he was charged with killing a guard at Attica federal pen in 1971. You can easily research it all on google. More recently the late STS attempted a citizens’ arrest of George Bush in Calgary Alberta in 2009. STS spoke often to Patriot audiences like that of Jack Blood. While AIM continues it was pretty much undermined by the FBI’s COINTEL program and such.
I think that possibly we might be in a situation to help nudge along an alliance between the Patriots and at least some of the remaining freedom fighters among the First Nations’ survivors. Such an alliance if properly established on a shared platform of negotiated intent would indeed have huge international implications in a world where many millions if not billions feel colonized and repressed by the Anglo-American empire that in its more recent incarnation has become the Zio-American empire.
I learned a lot about First Nations relations to Canada’s federal colonizing society in 1990 when I was more or less front and center in a blockade of Canada’s two transcontinental railways starting with our actions in northern Ontario at Long Lake Reserve 58. I wrote about it in an academic article that was widely republished in the days before the ubiquitous Internet.
Essentially we cornered the federal government by doing our action on a train yard on a federal Indian reserve. In Canada rail transport is a federal jurisdiction. Moreover in those days the CNR Railway, running right through reserve 58, was a federal Crown Corporation. The CNR had not yet been sold to Warren Buffet’s Hathaway conglomerate. The legality of this transfer of Canadian federal property to a US-based private conglomerate could still be challenged.
We held our protest camp at Long Lake 58 for a week. Other First Nations groups followed our lead. For about 10 days we had held control of Canada’s rail transport system. That big deal at the time. The Canadian laws were subsequently changed to make our patriotic act subject to one or more of the unconstitutional, post 9/11 anti-terrorism acts.
None of us were charged back in the early 1990s. We were not criminalized because we were able to gain some traction in backing up our assertion that it was the federal government and its Canadian National Railway did not adhere to the laws of Canada. The law of “Aboriginal and treaty rights” had not been applied law since the initial laying of the steel ribbons across British North America. My experience in 1990, which culminated in my involvement at Oka Quebec as a negotiator between the federal Armed Forces and the Mohawk Warriors, is one of the highlights of my life so far. So too is my involvement in the case of Splitting The Sky versus George W. Bush, a legal proceeding in which Dr. Barrett, Cynthia McKinney, Ramsay Clark, Joshua Blakeney, Michel Chossudovsky and Michael Pengue were also deeply involved.
I think have a good sense of what “Gawker” is all about. I agree with your characterization of it as a trashy left liberal operation of controlled opposition. I paid considerable attention to a set of article on the Gawker site when I was working on my lengthy article on the US navy’s missile knockdown off Long Island of TWA 800 in July of 1996.
My article took the former of a film review of the documentary film of my friend, Kristina Borjesson. As I studied of the corruption of the federal aviation agencies it seemed to me more and more like a preparation of the ground for the great betrayal on 9/11.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07...t-800-and-911/
Your thoughtful letter, Steve, is the first serious commentary I have received on a particular news story since I got involved in a substantial way with “No Lies Radio.” As I see it this collaboration started with our “False Flag Islamophobia” event in Paris last December. Thanks so much Steve for taking the time to deepen the discussion on a very important topic.
I think our FFWN work-in-progress would be well served if we did significant follow up when we are honoured with an intervention as serious and substantial as yours. I propose we work together in a way that might affect how history unfolds. Ultimately I think that what it seems to me is the preeminent concern of the four of us now communicating in this way.
Beyond that I very much look forward to the possibility of picking your mind on Ottoman Empire history, a topic I have yet to address with the rigour it deserves given its importance in recent developments with what they describe in Iran as West Asia.
Yours Sincerely,
Tony Hall
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Well, we now know that Gordon Duff aligns himself with the SPLC.
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LaVoy's YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIV...aqpaXNA/videos
last 2 entries; the "Help" one is mysterious coz speaker doesn't identify himself, but apparently close family/friend with access to the channel... and lastest is simply 8 mins of somber music...
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I saw on GLP before the DDoS attack that Arizona, Michigan, and New York militia's were mobilizing and heading to Oregon.
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they maybe heading that way but will not be allow to get there we are starting to see a lock down there , plus what I have seen they were going to a meeting in town when this toke place , I bet they learn not to leave the place there at now ... never trust the one's in the government . I still don't see why the left there safe place they were all at to go to this meeting ..........
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I saw on GLP before the DDoS attack that Arizona, Michigan, and New York militia's were mobilizing and heading to Oregon.
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Was LaVoy Finicum Shot w Hands in the Air Eye Witness Audio Testimony Here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJkBNY-yC6s
Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJkBNY-yC6s
Eye witness testimony. This person was in the vehicle. FED's riddled the vehicle with bullets.
FED's setup an ambush.
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still got FAUX on/muted, unmuted when I saw an OR story appear, they were talking about how LaVoy had articulated suicidal intentions, the 'event' appears to have been a provoked stop by the militia in the car, inferring that they were maybe planning an ambush on the LEO who stopped them. Flip the Script & Project lying MO, straight down the line... :(
Meanwhile lady in Ares' vid in #375 says maybe 40 LEO vehicles there, snipers in the trees, laser pointers on them the whole time, roadblock ahead... hmm, who to believe? :(?? Good she got that audio out there. :)
FAUX's silence re OR the past 10/whatever hours I've kept one eye on them was presumably needed while they brainstormed how to present/spin the story to djooz.gov's liking.
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still got FAUX on/muted, unmuted when I saw an OR story appear, they were talking about how LaVoy had articulated suicidal intentions, the 'event' appears to have been a provoked stop by the militia in the car, inferring that they were maybe planning an ambush on the LEO who stopped them. Flip the Script & Project lying MO, straight down the line... :(
Meanwhile lady in Ares' vid in #375 says maybe 40 LEO vehicles there, snipers in the trees, laser pointers on them the whole time, roadblock ahead... hmm, who to believe? :(?? Good she got that audio out there. :)
FAUX's silence re OR the past 10/whatever hours I've kept one eye on them was presumably needed while they brainstormed how to present/spin the story to djooz.gov's liking.
I believe the woman who was in the car for a couple of reasons.
1.) Absolutely ZERO pictures of the vehicle the woman in the video was in. If it had only been 3 shots like the media is saying, there would be pictures of the whole scene.
2.) Waiting for the autopsy report to see how many rounds LaVoy was struck with.
3.) The numbers (rounds fired, government vehicles involved, and the men positioning) sounds like standard government operating procedure.
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LaVoy Finicum, American Hero, rip. I didn't know LaVoy Finicum in person. I had one email exhange about bureaucratic overreach with him after the Bundy Ranch standoff. He was defending your rights and fighting to enforce the Constitution to protect you from the ever increasing abuses by the federal government.
May God Bless his soul and his family.
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yeah, my "question" in #376 was facetious; of course I believe the lady! For the reasons you cited and more.
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Just like the highly criticized, clearly provacateured and openly federal/foundation funded 'black lives matter' movement is.. designed to discredit legitimate grievances of police brutality and militarization nationwide.. so is whatever this bizarre 'Patriot' standoff is.. with no clear goal.. occupying a facility in the middle of no where without the support of the local citizens.. with a fat white guy in a diaper challenging Chris Christie to as sumo match.. boxes of sex toys.. this screams FBI/DHS infiltration. Anyone with half a brain can see what is happening. The only difference is that 'Black Lives Matter' actually has a platform (MSNBC, CNN, ABC) with so called 'credible' analysts lending their support. This makes legitimate land and property rights issues look ridiculous.. look no further than Ryan Bundy who will undoubtedly be the poster child of this entirely manufactured fiasco.. from the way to talks, the kicked by a mule face and the fact he was shot.. the MSM was delivered a gift yesterday..
We are in trouble.
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No, they decidedly did not walk the talk. I am not saying they should have done anything different at the end here but should have done something different at the front of it. They shot their mouths off, had pictures taken as they prayed while holding guns, as if they were ready for a shoot out on a moments notice. Go on the news and made it clear they would fight with force because their beliefs in what was "right".
Then they put their hands up, did nothing, their spokesman shot (possibly in the face) while he complied (they claim) and discredited themselves. And who was the genius who thought getting in a vehicle and driving around on the public roads would not result in this sooner or later? If they had ANY firearms with them they were just playing army, as they had no intent to resist and by having firearms they helped set themselves up to be executed.
They look like a joke, and make the other groups look like jokes (and perhaps they are). If there is an embeded agent he is either one of those just arrested or if still in the compound will leave before any "shoot out". If it is true that the spokesman was shot in the face, that was a premeditated act to send a signal to the other groups. The feds, if they had not planned to kill the guy as a statement, would have video taped the stop.
I remember the old stories about the Michigan Militia, how powerful and dedicated they were, how they were going to stand up to any more tyranny and would be a central operations point for other militias. Maybe they have amounted to something but not that I am aware of.
These people at the occupied building should have left the guns at home and done an occupation without the threat of guns. And if they were planning to shoot and die then is grouping into an isolated building a good tactic. Maybe for a very few myrtars to bring the enemy into the open but otherwise just seems stupid.
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The man that got shot lived up to his word. He said he wouldn't go to jail and went out with his gun drawn.
I agree it wasn't the smartest move for the whole leadership to allow itself to be decapitated like that.
Game, set, match.
All over but the crying.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...thers-one-dead
People here trying to sell us the "poor innocent victim died with his hands up" story can't ignore what is written in red above. Click on the link to read more comments at ZeroHedge. Fact is, there isn't much real sympathy for those guys out there. Anybody here hopping in their pickup truck with their AR-15 and driving to Oregon this morning? Anyone?
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listening to alex jones -- guy on there says a witness is on facebook telling a different story than the woman. said dead guy was running at the feds when they shot him.
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listening to alex jones -- guy on there says a witness is on facebook telling a different story than the woman. said dead guy was running at the feds when they shot him.
Yup, it comes down to who you choose to believe until the proof of truth starts filtering in
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Winning our struggle means winning peoples' hearts and minds.
This stunt didn't achieve that, and only ended in defeat and hatred from the enemy.
Don't become a martyr if you're not going to be remembered as a martyr.
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FAUX says FBI press conference in about 25 mins, top of the hour
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...thers-one-dead
People here trying to sell us the "poor innocent victim died with his hands up" story can't ignore what is written in red above. Click on the link to read more comments at ZeroHedge. Fact is, there isn't much real sympathy for those guys out there.
and every internet user knows, that when anon commenters post things in RED; that means they're correct; their info is unimpeachable. The only truthier source, would be FAUX News' Megan Kelly herself. Or whichever blond bimbo FAUX has handy will do. :D
I'll take the lady in the ambushed car's word, over some anon interweb commenter's word... :rolleyes:
as I commented a few hours ago at Mami's
"FBI raid: Oregon refuge, 1 killed, 5 in custody, including Ammon, Ryan Bundy shot"
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1 – 1 of 1 https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif Zeetip said..." The shooting is now being reported by the mainstream media and liberals are already cheering the death of one of the members of Bundy’s group. "
Don't dismiss the likely fact that it's "all hands on deck" time for the jooz.media.gov.mil social media psyops personnel, plus all joosh hasbarats, hammering/astroturfing social media with "comments" supportive of jooz.gov.
I thought the same thing after Boston HoaxAthon when there was that infamous footage replayed over & over on the JSM of a group of peeps cheering & chanting "USA USA!" after the pretend drama reached its pretend "got their men!" conclusion... We know they had a hundred/whatever crisis actors at the scene of the pretend bombing; so what's another hundred to pretend to be celebrating, for sheer propaganda purposes?
That "celebrating crowd" footage WAS an effective psyop, right? How did it make you feel, as someone with a different view of events that day, to see people (actors?) "celebrating" like that? Did you feel 'isolated', like, best to keep your mouth shut and not be a party pooper for "the majority" all around you (haha!) who are so "ecstatic" in response to the outcome? Or were you fooled, Delphi'ed, by a jooz.media.gov.mil psyop designed to make you feel your opinion is just that of a fringe minority at best?
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and every internet user knows, that when anon commenters post things in RED; that means they're correct; their info is unimpeachable.
I'll take the lady in the ambushed car's word, over some anon interweb commenter's word... :rolleyes:
Scroll up. It was me who emphasized that quoted sentence in red so GSUSers would know which sentence I was referring to.
Oh. You'll accept this alleged "lady's" word as fact today instead of waiting a few days for actual proof and evidence.
:rolleyes: why rushing to judgement so fast PatColo?
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this thing could be about diversion from hellary/fast furious/drug cartel/benghazi info that's rolling out
fast and furious 50 cal, anti aircraft guns found with el chapo -- this was a state dept (hellary) operation. same same with benghazi
if nyc media goes to outsized coverage oregon, while fading hellary gun running to terrists/drug cartels.....further evidence this is diversion
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
book, agree time is gold in assessing these fresh events-- I first gave that VA news crew shooting hoax the benefit of the doubt, until seeing the JSM follow up interviews with the bad crisis actors... then I quickly flip flopped & called it for the hoax it was.
That FBI news conference finished now; that Sheriff Ward guy was pretty shaken up, stammering, pausing... like a good guy who knows he's serving the satanists... :-[
"Fact is, there isn't much real sympathy for those guys out there."
same question back at you, namely: :rolleyes: why rushing to judgement so fast book?
"Don't dismiss the likely fact that it's "all hands on deck" time for the jooz.media.gov.mil social media psyops personnel, plus all joosh hasbarats, hammering/astroturfing social media with "comments" supportive of jooz.gov. [...] "
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spot check on cnn, fox, msnbc -- neither have gone to continuous coverage. cnn is running attack trump stuff, msnbc is running rayciss flint water distribution system, fox is covering bernie sanders and that obomba doesnt support him (thinly veiled pro hellary campaign infomercial)
edit: top of the hour now -- all three are running attack trump stuff
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
Their sure are a lot of BLACK Military helicopters going over my house, I am east of Burns, OR and west of the Airforce base in Boise.
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None flying near Boise here.
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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PatColo
"Fact is, there isn't much real sympathy for those guys out there." same question back at you, namely: :rolleyes: why rushing to judgement so fast book?
Because the so-called "3 Percenters" and other weekend warriors themselves visited the scene for a few hours and decided not to get involved.
:)
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Jewboo
Because the so-called "3 Percenters" and other weekend warriors themselves visited the scene for a few hours and decided not to get involved.
:)
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Like 100 marched armed outside Winco in Twin Falls a few months ago over the rapefugees.
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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Originally Posted by
Jewboo
Because the so-called "3 Percenters" and other weekend warriors themselves visited the scene for a few hours and decided not to get involved.
:)
source link plz... :)
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Originally Posted by
PatColo
source link plz... :)
This thread in the early posts. Just scroll up...
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
so somewhere in the first 396 replies here, you say then?
"Because the so-called "3 Percenters" and other weekend warriors themselves visited the scene for a few hours and decided not to get involved."
what was the purported reason for the 3%-ers staying only "for a few hours" as you put it, before deciding to return home? :|~
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monty do they still have the road block to stop others from coming in , if so do you think the rest will be fair game for a shot out
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