Large Explosions Reported At Boston Marathon - Photos Released

Wish I knew how to make the photos bigger to show two different people.

Did you know there are AMPUTEE crisis actors?

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...crisis-actors/

Posted on April 21, 2014 by Dr. Eowyn | 5 Comments
I woke up this morning to wall-to-wall TV news on today’s Boston Marathon and last year’s bombings.
That reminded me of something I had meant to post about last year:
Amputee Crisis Actors

Yes, Virginia. Not only are professional “crisis actors” used in government drills and mass trauma events, some of them are actual amputees!
There’s an outfit called Amputees in Action, which describes itself as:

“a unique agency, working independently to provide the UK’s largest directory of trained professional amputee actors for the film and screen industries and for emergency and military services training simulations, both home and abroad.
Our personnel use their personal trauma experiences to enable graphic realism that is second to none, and our team of special effects (SFX) make-up, moulage and prosthetic artists use cutting edge technology to enhance and extend the appearance and function of limb-loss scenarios.”

On its “Emergency Services” page, Amputees in Action (AIA) says:

Most of our personnel have lost limbs as a direct result of a trauma incident, and are able to bring their experiences to your simulation with unique insight and acting in the field, remaining in character throughout. [...] Our SFX experts enhance the amputee experience, replicating injuries beyond leg and arm injuries. We also recreate traumas like head and facial wounds, eviscerated abdomens and groin wounds.

Here are some images of AIA’s amputee crisis actors: http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...crisis-actors/

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Originally Posted by Amanda

Did you know there are AMPUTEE crisis actors?

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...crisis-actors/

Posted on April 21, 2014 by Dr. Eowyn | 5 Comments
I woke up this morning to wall-to-wall TV news on today’s Boston Marathon and last year’s bombings.
That reminded me of something I had meant to post about last year:
Amputee Crisis Actors

Yes, Virginia. Not only are professional “crisis actors” used in government drills and mass trauma events, some of them are actual amputees!
There’s an outfit called Amputees in Action, which describes itself as:

“a unique agency, working independently to provide the UK’s largest directory of trained professional amputee actors for the film and screen industries and for emergency and military services training simulations, both home and abroad.
Our personnel use their personal trauma experiences to enable graphic realism that is second to none, and our team of special effects (SFX) make-up, moulage and prosthetic artists use cutting edge technology to enhance and extend the appearance and function of limb-loss scenarios.”

On its “Emergency Services” page, Amputees in Action (AIA) says:

Most of our personnel have lost limbs as a direct result of a trauma incident, and are able to bring their experiences to your simulation with unique insight and acting in the field, remaining in character throughout. [...] Our SFX experts enhance the amputee experience, replicating injuries beyond leg and arm injuries. We also recreate traumas like head and facial wounds, eviscerated abdomens and groin wounds.

Here are some images of AIA’s amputee crisis actors: http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...crisis-actors/

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Yep, been doing that kinds of crap for years to add realism to training, know some vets alive and past, form ww2 (most dead now) to today that have lost parts of themselves that have helped out on these kind of training exercises. Nothing new.

yes it is amazing you can recover from such trauma in about 1 month. I know people who have lost an leg and have been laid up for 3 months. If someone blew my legs of I'd be pretty down in the dumps for a while. Angry too but then if I started a pledge page and got maybe a million $$ from that I might grimace less.

This is today, vaguely stating it's at 12:00, no time zone provided :O, guessing it's ET then, as AFP is headquartered in DC. Less than 2 hours from this GSUS posting then. Also gives a call in number, so I guess calls will be taken in the latter half somewhere?

Date with a Debate: Boston Marathon Bombing—Jim Fetzer vs. A.J. McDonald, Jr.

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AFP Radio Network

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Dave Gahary moderates a debate between Jim Fetzer and A.J. McDonald, Jr., who tackle the controversy surrounding the Boston Marathon Bombing event.


Was it real or staged?


James H. Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus at U of M Duluth, and an authority on the JFK assassination, 9/11, and Sen. Wellstone's death.


Scholars for 9/11 Truth founder, his latest books include The Evolution of Intelligence (2005), The 9/11 Conspiracy (2007), and The Place of Probability in Science (2010).


Jim is a contributor and editor at Veterans Today and hosts a radio show, "The Real Deal", M/W/F


A. J. MacDonald, Jr. (54) is a thinker, writer, author, blogger, and social/political activist. He's a former soldier, warehouse worker/manager, delivery driver, construction laborer, and professional tractor-trailer driver (25+ years off-and-on). He's authored five books since 2009 and has been a full time writer and researcher since 2011. He currently lives in Pennsylvania.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/america...aj-mcdonald-jr

Debate will be

Thursday April 24


3 to 5 pm Eastern Time

2 to 4 pm Central Time

1 to 3 pm Mountain Time

Noon to 2 pm Pacific Time

I called in to make the point that the official story of Boston has greatly changed and enlarged to now say that there are 16 Boston amputees, not just Jeff Bauman. I am not sure Dr. Fetzer or anyone understood the point I was trying to make. The WSJ article

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...83040654421528

i referenced included quotes from Boston area doctors and hospital personnel all participating the 16-amputees expanded official story of Boston, and I probably did not express my point clearly enough.

It is amazing how so many people are willing to associate their names and reputations of their personal selves and their professions and their employers/medical institutions with the BIG LIE of the Boston Marathon Bombing and there being several people who had to have one or both legs amputated as a result of the "two explostions."

I guess "they make" the lie bigger and bigger over time and that makes the lie more believable because it involves so many victims. Show how it is possible to get lots of people to be big liars for the Big Lie.

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My little unprovable theory...

This A J McDonald debate person who takes Boston as real and Sandy Hook as fake seems to be a put-up fake guest who comes from the same "AFP faction" (Spingola, Piper, Johnson, Petherick) that takes Sandy Hook (first event) as fake and Boston as real. The two factions both seem to say the Sandy Hook and Boston events are connected and that the reasons for mistaken judgements about the second event in Boston derive from people in the "truth movement" being mind controlled, but the two factions say the mind controll happened in different ways. AFP / Piper faction says Sunstein-type sophisticated TM infiltrators caused people to mistakenly see Sandy Hook as fake. A J McDonald says people were mind controlled but in a different way, that is, because their mind was already set in a certain direction because they correctly judged Sandy Hook to be a fake event so they naturally saw Marathon as fake as well.

The opposite judgement on the two events might fool us into thinking that the two factions are not connected or "in cahoots" at all, but that is just a trick. All of this redounds to the overarching "theory" that it is "mind control" that is the basic problem (Jon Rappaport / Alex Jones position) and that mistakes in judgment all have to do with mind control and are not caused by or not having to do with looking at the evidence objectively. And this overarching "theory" is the exact same theory as the Piper Sunstein theory. That is why I think A J McDonald is connected in some secret way to the AFP Piper faction.

Dachsie, I'm just now starting into listening to the archive (MP3) of this 'debate'. I've got it paused at 16:xx, coz I can't walk & chew gum! Right out of the gate, and in line with your "little unprovable theory", I was struck by AJMc's posturing as holding a 'minority, outside of the consensus view' in his (professed...) belief in the Boston Hoax's Official Joosh Narrative. This is the same tact which Delphi-Deanna takes, in her Official JOO SHoax Story advocacy, as she waves around the Official JOOSH SHoax REPORTS & JoozMedia "news accounts" as her "proofs" LOL! This fraudulent posturing as 'Underdog' is so transparent, so insulting to the intelligence!! :rolleyes:

Just to clarify, Delphi's stance is that SHoax was "real", but Boston was fake as a $3 bill. See the OP in
Thread: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story

Thanks for calling in Dachsie, looking forward to hearing your call; now back to the show for me! :)

"Just to clarify, Delphi's stance is that SHoax was "real", but Boston was fake as a $3 bill."

Thanks for correction.

So Delphi Deanna holds the same opinion as A J McDonald.

I am still thinking about my unprovable little theory. So I am going to think out loud a little more here. Please forgive my ruminations.

It is just beginning to look like these people (Piper Spingola McDonald) can have different judgements about an events as to their "official story" authenticity and we might start thinking these people could not possibly be on the same team. But maybe we may be thinking wrong. Maybe those people with the different opinions about the same event are really pushing one same agenda, the agenda of "mind control" .

Sunstein's theory and Piper's description of Sunstein's "Crisis Management" and "Mind Control" seem to really be advancing the idea that people are not able to objectively evaluate objective real evidence and come to a good logical and correct judgement about an event. The events themselves can be objectively real or fake but most, but not all, of the people in the "truth movement" and the "patriot movement" are totally in the thrall of the sophisticated "crisis managers" and are unable to objectively assess a set of evidence about an event and come to a logical and correct judgement.

Somehow, a CORRECT judgment or conclusion about an event's reality or faked nature is totally becomes side-stepped and not in the realm of consideration. It is irrelevant if one's opinion is right or wrong about an event, and all that is relevant is that one is not under "their" control and is coming to their judgements independently.

We poor mind controlled people in the "truth movements" will tend to think a person's opinion about an event is the right one because we believe that person is really not controlled and really looking at the event independently and "objectively."

When we see that McDonald and Spingola both see Sandy Hook as real and Boston as fake, we are supposed to be subtly sold on the idea that McDonald are independent thinkers coming to their own conclusions and even if their conclusions differ from others, they are true indepent thinkers and are not under the thrall or total control of the sophisticated Sunstein type controllers. So being right or correct in one's reasoning and about one's final judgment about an event takes back seat to being perceived as an "uncontrolled" or un-mind-controlled person.

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So Delphi Deanna holds the same opinion as A J McDonald.

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They hold reverse positions; recall, Delphi professes to believe SHoax took place as joozmedia.gov have purported, but that Boston was completely staged. :|~

I believe Delphi, Glenn, Piper, KJohnson, Tillawi, AJMcDonald, "Wade", (& whoever I'm forgetting), who profess to hold the belief that EITHER SHoax AND/OR Boston Hoax took place as joozmedia.gov have purported-- even while they are ostensibly at odds with each other in their conflicting professed beliefs; that they are ALL in cahoots, frauds, "Sunstein Cognitive Infiltration Agents", employed by the dark side, to sow chaos/confusion/doubt/cognitive-dissonance/disunity/infighting within the TM. :)

And yes, their dark-side employershttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 count upon honest Truthers being loyal to their favored "Brand Name Truther Personality" first, and the evidence 2nd if at all. That's why I like to put "proclaimed" or "professed" before citing their ostensible "belief(s)".

I'm still working my way through this show; have paused several times to handle other distractions. :)

Good insights, PatColo. You seem to understand my general line of reasoning by saying

"even while they are ostensibly at odds with each other in their conflicting professed beliefs; that they are ALL in cahoots, frauds, "Sunstein Cognitive Infiltration Agents", employed by the dark side, to sow choas/confusion/doubt/cognitive-dissonance/disunity/infighting within the TM. "

"They hold reverse positions; recall, Delphi professes to believe SHoax took place as joozmedia.gov have purported, but that Boston was completely staged."

Thanks. I knew I still had not got it right. But maybe I am still wrong, but they do not exactly hold "reverse" positions, as
Spingola thinks Boston fake, Sandy Hook real and McDonald thinks Sandy Hook is real and Boston Marathon is real.

I think we are zeroing on something important here, that is, that

Delphi, Glenn, Piper, KJohnson, Tillawi, AJMcDonald, "Wade", and maybe Chris Pesterick

are operating under the control of the same "force." The common denominator in these people is this "force" and maybe does not mean that AmericanFreePress.net entity is not entirely under that "force."

If that force is the Sunstein agenda, it is mighty peculiar that Piper's book revolves around pointing out how evil and Joosish the Sunstein agenda is.

If our general line of thinking is heading in the right direction, then we have to ask if Piper is on the side of the "Joosish / Sunstein" side while appearing to be one of those "in the minority" people who are not controlled and who think independently and come to their own conclusions.


One last little thought that I have not fully developed yet, but I believe there is a variable in all this theorizing and that variable is

Truth.

I believe it is possible for individuals said to be in the "truth movement" to think independently and have as their highest value, truth, seeking truth to the best of our individual abilities and not becoming fans or groupies or favoring a certain personality's opinions over Truth. Truly seeking truth means that even though our current ideas and conclusions are imperfect and may change with more information we still are moving toward the CORRECT or TRUE conclusion. What is TRUE and CORRECT is the important variable in all of this that is somehow being side-lined or made to be perceived of lesser relevance or importance.

Correction"

Change

The common denominator in these people is this "force" and maybe does not mean that AmericanFreePress.net entity is not entirely under that "force."

The common denominator in these people is this "force" and maybe does not mean that AmericanFreePress.net entity is entirely under that "force."


deleted the second "not" to say that AFP may not be the "force" or the "common denominator" of all these people.

Just as I gave the link for Dr. Lorraine Day's good article on Sandy Hook, I wanted to also give the link to Dr. Lorraine Day's excellent article about Boston Marathon Bombing, which Dr. Fetzer referred to in his recent debate against A J McDonald.

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/stud...n_marathon.htm

NO ONE Died in the Boston Bombing – Nor was ANYONE Even Hurt.
(Except, of course, the innocent “suspects” – the Tsarnaev brothers, who were killed/maimed by the police)
This was a Total Hoax – a False Flag Operation – To Take Away Our Remaining Rights

By Lorraine Day, M.D.

"My background: I am an Orthopedic Trauma Surgeon. For many years I was Chief of Orthopedic Surgery at San Francisco General Hospital, the onlyTrauma Hospital in San Francisco. For 25 years, I took care of massive injuries from gang wars, explosions, severe motor vehicle crashes, survivors of attempted suicide from jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge, etc.
I am fully qualified to assess the supposed injuries at the total HOAX “bombing” that took place at the Boston Marathon. And I am not the only one who is writing about this. There are many others who also understand that it was a HOAX.! " end of quoted excerpt from article

SNIP
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http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/stud...t_postings.htm

a list of all of Dr. Lorraine Day's articles on political issues

I have posted the link to a list of all of her articles because her articles at that link cannot even be "found" by several search engines since she has a decided stance against Israel / Zionists / Jews faction. Google found this article but StartPage never gets a hit on goodnewsaboutgod site.

Dr Day has two or more different websites.

It could appear that AFP are presenting the world a "united front" in accepting joozmedia.gov's SHoax & Boston stories, but AFP staff writer John Friend calls both events frauds. And Delphi professes to believe SHoax was real while Boston was a hoax. AFP's Dave Gahary, while I've never heard him proclaim so explicitly; if you listen particularly to his two W.Halbig interviews, just the 2 of them with no pretense of 'debate' (as opposed to Gahary's playing neutral moderator in the Halbig/"Wade" debate and others), Gahary expressed agreement with Halbig's points over and over, and made some of his own observations, which all made clear that Gahary believes SHoax to be a fraud.

As I said above, this all adds up to TPTB's intended outcome that their agents, who I defined in my reply 410 above, sow chaos/confusion/doubt/cognitive-dissonance/disunity/infighting within the TM, as honest Truthers (are encouraged to, are baited into, at least) taking sides based principally on the view espoused by their favorite brand-name Truther (agent).

One point to clarify though-- where I said they're all in cahoots, I don't mean necessarily that these low-level agents are in active cahoots with one another. Rather, I believe it's TPTB at the top giving each agent their tailored marching orders as to what they're to profess to believe about each fake "event", with TPTB hoping to achieve the chaos/etc outcome within the TM stated above. If my hypothesis is correct, I'd say TPTB have scored at least a partial victory. :rolleyes:

I've listened to the whole Fetzer/MacDonald debate now (MP3). Good job with your call-in Dachsie; first caller! I knew what you meant, though admittedly I pre-read your post-mortem above. :) I didn't know there were that many alleged amputees stemming from the pretend Boston event?! I recall the "former pro dancer" was another one the joozmedia touted... but what about all the pretend others?

All I can say is, WOW, that AJM guy STUNK! As JF noted 1 or 2 times, AJM seemed to be counting on coasting through the debate by maintaining his cool & relaxing tone, while his facts & reasoning were AWOL! Oh, and AJM repeating "Occam's Razor" over & over, hoping no one would know what that was! Distilling his closing statement down further: "It appeared to be bombs & bloody mayhem, Occam's Razor, therefore Fetzer loses & I win." Unbelievable... ;D

I recall early in the 911 TM, circa '04-'08, the boiler room army of JREF shills (pro JOO-911-Story, obviously) stinking up the discussion forums, had a serious fetish for citing Occam's Razor, again hoping to bluff sounding like the smartest guy(s) in the room. But it was like the old lawyer saying, "If the facts are on your side, then bang on the facts! If they're not on your side, then bang on the table (or, bluff sounding smart by banging on "Occam's Razor")." Meanwhile, as David Ray Griffin summarized beautifully in Chapter 9 of his book "The New Pearl Harbor" (< free PDF), Occam's Razor is in reality, quite the foe of those advocating for the Official JOO 911 Story.

Griffin's Chapter 9 above cited all the circumstantial reasons; but especially as it related to the CD's of the towers and esp-esp WTC-7, where it was NIST's bafflingly convoluted "explanations" based upon their seeekrit computer models, vs controlled demolitions; the "Occam's Razor" parroting JOO 911 Story shills would get cut up to shreds by their own "...Razor". :cool:

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My reply is to comment 414, not to the latest which I just found out about. I may reply to that comment later.

Interesting ideas about TPTB.

In this discussion I had to correct myself and make it clear that I do not automatically believe that AFB is totally "in on" the same kind of false beliefs.

However, when one starts taking a close look at just one person, Michael Collins Piper, one has to eventually start also taken a much closer look and evaluation of AFP.

Piper is either 56 or 58 years old. He has been working as a full-time employee and writer for AFP since its beginnings via Willis Carto's Liberty Lobby and the old Spotlight newspaper.

Piper about a month ago completely "disappeared" so to speak. He is said to have quit or been fired from AFP but there is virtually nothing about this departure of his on the web. Now Piper worked for 36 or 38 years, since he was 20 years old, for AFP. It would seem reasonable that Piper just "retired" with whatever retirement benefits AFP offers their long term, full time employees. Piper did not quit nor was he fired. His departure happened right after he wrote and provided free of charge his book "False Flags" and right after he made it clear that he thought Sandy Hook was the real deal and right after he had that farce of a debate with Dr. Fetzer.

Piper, right before his "disappearance", also made it clear in his later interviews and his last book that ...

He does not think much of people with many advanced degrees;

He has a low opinion of "patriots";

He has a low opinion of the so-called "alternative media";

He has a low opinion of "truthers" or members of "the truth movement";

He has a low opinion of those who "provide the conspiracy theories", that is, those that Sunstein targets in his sophisticated mass mind control of public opinion and control of "crises."

He has a new definition of "false flags:;
(I am still trying to nail how Piper's book defines "false flag" now and how it is that Sandy Hook can be a false flag as he says Sandy Hook and Boston are on page 280 of his book while at the same time saying that Sandy Hook and Boston are a new kind of false flag, are false flag events but in a much different sense than JFK assassination, Oklahoma City bombing, and 9-11. Piper in his latest book actually puts "false flag" in quotes indicating there are "false flags" and then there are false flags.)

He has tediously laid out a set of propositions culminating in his book's thesis. This thesis appears to be a sea change in Piper's facade or personna in the "liberty movement" over the years and appears to be a "reaction" to the Sunstein thesis or agenda which was put out in a paper by Sunstein in 2009.

He claims to be concerned about the "truth movement" and how the world is now perceiving them.

I guess I will not go on although there is more to observe about Piper.

I guess what I am saying is that it is beginning to appear that Piper is operating the "reaction" part of the "problem, reaction, solution" game. This game is also analogous to the operation of the Hegelian dialectic (thesis, antithesis, synthesis) as well as to the "Delphi Technique" where two opposing positions (problem/reaction, thesis/antithesis) are manipulated via the operation of the technique so that a "consensus" (or solution or synthesis) is crafted or reached.

It is very convincing to believe that AFP is truly a real deal, that it is made up of different independent writers with sincerely held differing opinions about events, and that it holds regular "debates" objectively entertaining all oposing positions and position holders as opponents in these "fair and balanced" debates. But I guess I have become skeptical of the "fair and balanced" position and am coming to see that it too can be an "act" to deceive.

I do not know for sure if I am thinking in the right direction toward truth. I just see this "sea change" starting with Piper and being fallen in line with by all the others even though all these others hold different opinions about events than Piper.

Christopher Bollyn, who was a long time ago one of the few full-time employees writers for AFP states that Mark Lane actually owns AFP and Willis Carto was secretly "in with" Mark Lane and funneled a whole lot of AFP money to Lane for "legal fees" in defending AFP. Mark Lane is a Jewish man who has always openly declared himself to be a Zionist. Mark Lane wrote one of the early "tell all" books exposing the JFK assassination conspiracy, or purporting to "tell all." If Bollyn's ideas are true, and I have not fully researched that and have no conclusion at this point, then Piper and AFP actually being sort of on the same side of "Sunstein agenda" would become a slam dunk in my opinion.

Bollyn complained that AFP never seemed to really advertise or market their newspaper intelligently. Bollyn sort of claims he never could figure out that laxity. I think it is possible that Carto and Piper managers of AFP never really intended to market their newspaper to the general public and that their newspaper was always exclusively pointed at the "freedom loving, anti-Zionist" market.

What we could have with AFP is a bunch of Zionists in false cover milking all the money out of a bunch of "anti-Zionists truthers."

I am not intending to argue or disagree. I am just thinking and just sayin and think that all alternatives need to be explored.

Dachsie: I posted a good thread about Bollyn & his criticisms of MCP, AFP, & more; you'll surely find much of interest there:

Thread: Bollyn on DBS, Hufschmid, Piper, Thorn, CIA

I posted this to Fetzer's radio blog, in an unrelated show's comments, coz JF is often very slow in posting his recent shows... this AFP debate show for example, still isn't posted atm:

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Pat Colo April 25, 2014 at 6:13 PM



Jim, sometimes you lag behind several days, a week, whatever in posting your relevant podcasts here. So I wanted to point readers to your excellent "Boston Hoax" debate with that hapless shill, whatever his name was?! lol. Great Job, Dr. Fetzer! It's 2 hours, hosted by Dave Gahary on AFP.

Here's a link to the debate, along with some commentary from myself and "Dachsie", who is AKA the first caller during the debate, who made the observation that there were allegedly 16 amputees stemming from the pretend Boston bombing. She feared she wasn't clear enough in her call, and posted this in hopes of clarifying:
http://tinyurl.com/nyoepdu

See that ^ and the replies following for some review of the debate, esp my reply #415.

Dachsie also posted this new thread, "Sixteen Boston Bombing leg Amputees / VicSims / Amputee Crisis Actors ?"
http://tinyurl.com/mcxvndt

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Thank you very much.

I am going to read that thread about Bollyn. I know I have been way out of the loop on Piper and understand he has not really "disappeared" off the radar as I thought. I just feel that it is very strange how so many of these people had uncharacteristic takes on either Sandy Hook or Boston or both and I am always trying to see if there is a pattern or some behind the scenes machinations that could explain this. I realize my "developing theories" may not be right and there does not always have to be a conspiracy. Just looking at it on the surface, it does not make sense to me.

I am glad this forum exists because of your Jump the Shark thread and so much good coverage of the shootings and false flag events. This kind of coverage to my knowledge does not exist anywhere else.

Audio and transcript at the link:

Hollywood producer claims Boston bombing was a "false flag attack"
http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_04_25/The-Boston-bombing-was-a-false-flag-attack-Nathan-Folks-7658/

Here's a great post from FauxCapitalist on the evidence pointing to crisis actors at the Boston Marathon Bombing:

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/...ebate-jim.html

fauxcapitalist.com said...Some reasons I have indicating that the Boston Marathon bombings had crisis actors, not necessarily in order of importance or exhaustive:

- A 35-year orthopedic surgeon, Dr. Stan Monteith, said Jeff Bauman was an actor.
- The guy in the wheelchair and Jeff Bauman may not even be the same person. The guy from the Marathon has noticeably curly hair, whereas pictures of Bauman not long after, and Facebook pictures before, all show straight hair.
- Guy at the Marathon had one below-the-knee amputation and one above-the-knee amputation whereas Bauman comes out with two above-knee amputations.
- It's completely against standard procedure to put someone who's had their limbs blown off upright in a wheelchair. They should be put on a stretcher.
- His legs in the infamous picture of the cowboy hat guy pinching his artery as he's being wheeled away look completely different than earlier, and looks even like non-human skin.
- He may have been wheeled through the scene twice to get a better picture, and after his prosthesis fell off.
- Woman beside him in the incident WAS put onto a stretcher, despite not having her legs blown off.
- She has no blood on the top front of her shirt in the early pics of the scene, then suddenly has blood all over her, with a look of total shock as she's being wheeled away.
- Bauman says they called him "Wolverine" for how fast he allegedly healed -- 19 days out of the hospital.
- No blood seen on the ground or on anyone's hand when he's being pushed around on the wheelchair.
- Hardly anyone at the first bomb scene a minute or so later, despite this being the one where they said three people eventually died.
- People with clothes ripped apart, yet hardly any or no blood or injuries in places.
- Woman with no blood on her face after bomb goes off, then suddenly all kinds of blood after she reaches for something from her pocket and wipes her face.
- The old man who fell to the ground when the first bomb went off, didn't fall because of the bomb, but because of something the runner in front of her threw back to him that he caught.
- No pictures of Bauman showing his whole body and bare legs before the incident.
- Hardly any pictures of him below the waist at all.
- No verified picture of him even seen in the crowd at the Marathon.
- This guy also happens to be the one who claims to have seen the bomber place a backback with the bomb (what a coincidence!)
- Shows up to make the first pitch at the Boston Red Sox game and appears at the Boston Bruins game waving a big flag after his unprecedented recovery (a tremendous propaganda opportunity).

BOSTON UPDATE: FBI War on Boston Marathon Bombing Witnesses Continues

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Audio and transcript at the link:

Hollywood producer claims Boston bombing was a "false flag attack"
http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_04_25/The-Boston-bombing-was-a-false-flag-attack-Nathan-Folks-7658/

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Fetzer just posted this, haven't listened but it's in my queue :)


Monday, October 27, 2014

Nathan Folks, David Weiss < mp3

Boston Marathon hoax
Posted by Total at 9:06 PM 4 comments:

Fetz & Rense talked both Boston & S.Hoax in 3rd hour here. They play the audio of that interview with... name escapes me atm, but producer who cast Carlos Cowboy in a prior film.

Jeff Rense Radio Show - 2015.01.07

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Listen Download Hour 1 - Webster Griffin Tarpley - The Geopolitics Of The Hebdo Massacre
Listen Download Hour 2 - George Filer - Filers Files MUFON UFO Report
Listen Download Hour 3 - James Fetzer - Sandy Hook And Boston Bombing Frauds. PS: This ain't getting old at all. I hope that we will still be discussing this in ten years. LOL

Rense' site

Posted by zapoper at 2:04 AM 1 comment:

I may suffer through the Tarpley hour later-- I don't really care for the guy, but be interesting to hear his song/dance re the Paris 'event'; I predict his usual high-brow sounding obfuscation, where he'll presumably not name dajoo... as usual. :rolleyes:

Nathan Folks is the guy whose name you could not remember. This guy knows all about videography and knows up close and personal how BB was a Big Lie. But he indicated that he was poisoned for speaking out about BB and landed in hospital several times within a few months, and some of his friends did too. Folks, a person who would probably self-identify as a Jew, said also that "the Health Ranger" whose name escapes me now had his health personally messed with by the same people who hit on Folks.

Kinda strange that after all this stuff happened to these guys, the Health Ranger disappeared from substitute hosting for Alex Jones and is kinda out of the picture now.

^ yeah that guy, thx. :) Listening now 2nd time, @ 8:35 Fetz notes Folks' "acute poisoning" incident.

Mike Adams, the Health Ranger (Natural News dot com)
^ appears he's still penning articles, anyways... (or, articles are being attributed to his rotting corpse! >:D).

will listen to this third hour later today and may comment again. Thanks for notification on it.

I still "have a problem" with the way Dr. Fetzer tells us about "the Mossad" and "the Zionists"
doing 9-11, Sandy Hook, and Boston Bombing. Also a bit of a problem with "Dr. Sabrosky" telling us the Mossad doing 9-11.

The "problem" relates to fact that Dr. Fetzer and Dr. Sabrosky and others sort of just throw out or insert the terms Mossad and the Zionists in an extraneous manner and they do not show in detail exactly how the Mossad and the Zionists are deeply and causally connected to the perpetration of the false events.

I would note also that those of the Jewish revolutionary spirit have no qualms about "killing their own", that is they will insert sub-stories into their engineered false events that clearly seem to point the finger at "the Mossad" or "the Zionists" and even sometimes at "the Jews." We have to more deeply analyze all this stuff and show the different kinds of false sub-stories engineered in to these false events. They are not all of the same nature.

Fides et Ratio !

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We have to more deeply analyze all this stuff and show the different kinds of false sub-stories engineered in to these false events. They are not all of the same nature.

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My concern with this is, the "JFK + 51-some-odd years" cautionary-tale...

http://www.john-friend.net/2013/12/j...18872624579478

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So here's what I'm going to do instead with the time/energy I would otherwise be tempted to spend engaging in this contrived "dogs chasing our tails" infighting ditch, over a speculative & irrelevant (as far as the forward movement of our 'movement' is concerned) question of HOW the 911 psyop was technically done. I recommend all sincere Truthers do the same.

1. Make "mini-flyers". With one 8.5x11 sheet, you'll be cutting to make 5 flyers. Hand-write (more personal feeling) the following message, 5 times, spaced from the top through the bottom of the page:
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Hi Friend. Please check out the following 2 videos:

WTC-7, The Smoking Gun of 9-11 (15 minutes)
www.architects-engineers.org

Missing Links: How Israel Did 9-11 (125 minutes)
www.911missinglinks.com/watch-movie
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^ you could do 3 links, I'd suggest rediscover911.com - just keep it short & succinct yet enticing.

2. Print however many of these as you'd like, whether on your home printer or Kinkos/etc. With your copies, cut them into mini-flyers, which will end up being 8.5" by ~2.2" each.

3. "Flyer" your neighborhood, or wherever you'd like. An effective placement is on cars. I like to roll the mini-flyer loosely, and slip them into the driver's door handle, in the space the driver will place their fingers to open the door. The loosely rolled flyer will act as an outwardly-expanding spring, so it stays put in the finger space. The flyer will be somewhat protected from rain/etc there; and you can put them there without even physically touching the car yourself (as opposed to putting them under the wiper). There are many other flyer placement ideas: shopping carts, free newspaper racks (put a flyer INSIDE each of the top 5-10 papers), etc. Mailboxes is your discretion; realize it's illegal to put anything inside US Mail boxes... If you're not shy, dress in your Sunday-best, and give them to people personally in a public gathering place.

Point is, I/we expend our Truther time/energy reaching NEW people; not "taking the bait" playing keyboard-commando/chase-your-tail with (contrived sub-factions within) "the choir" on the internet... ESP over nonsense like NP@WTC-ianity. :)

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I just listened to recent hour 3 of Fetzer as guest on Jeff Rense show. Will go over to rense radio site and see if I have capability of posting a comment there. Probably don't have that since I am not a paid subscriber.

PatColo, I know you are a smart nice guy, but I ask you
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what has your way, whatever that is (I only know what it does not involve), gotten you in however many years you have been looking at these false events?



This is an important show IF

one wants to look at and learn about everything one can about the Boston Bombing event (or any other what I call "false event")

Stephen Speilberg was shown on video and still photos being at the scene of BB and Dr. Fetzer said "it is well known in Hollywood that Speilberg was involved in BB event."

Ho Hum - don't waste your time on this kind of info we find. It is just a waste of time.
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And now William Shanley is missing and he is the plaintiff in a law suit against Sandy Hook perps.

http://memoryholeblog.com/2015/01/08...f-now-missing/

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Ho Hum - don't waste your time on this kind of info we find. It is just a waste of time.

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I personally am looking for every bit of logic and truth I can find and I do not avoid or rule out any area of inquiry. Every little bit fills in some of the large blanks.

I am searching for truth, no matter how imperfect.

Truth is not an empirically quantifiable variable but it is the most powerful weapon any of us have for ourselves and our own protection and wellbeing.

My God tells me to spend my whole life having a love of the truth and that is what has personally benefitted me, and I hope others, in my life.

Looks like a jury has been seated and the trial is beginning. That's all I have heard other than the expected propaganda on the radio. Anyone watching or paying attention?

If you are speaking about the trial of the Tsarnaev (sp?) brother, I have not been following that case, but I do understand the Tsarnaev family has filed a millions of dollar wrongful death lawsuit and I say good for them. Those boys were working for the CIA and the Boston Bombing was nothing but a huge Grade B Hollywood production.

Shanley has been released from jail and is going forward with his law suit. He may be what is called a TI, targeted individual for electron harrassment, etc.

Also there are still major disinformation strategies by Fedzilla regarding 9-11 Hollywood production. Rebekah Roth wrote New York Times best seller book, Methodical Illusion. Will post about it in the 9-11 thread here.

Just seeing this now!

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what has your way, whatever that is (I only know what it does not involve), gotten you in however many years you have been looking at these false events?

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I, Large Sarge, and a couple others woke up scores of ppl at the old GIM-1 site from which this GSUS site was spun off. Most everyone who ended up here when it launched in Apr '10 was on board with (Izzy did....) 911. In most cases, they were not 911-aware when joining GIM-1 in the preceding few years sometime. That's a big multiplication of efforts.

I've handed out free dvd's in "truth street actions", and been on a PBS station phone bank where our 911 group was able to give several short spiels on TV about 911T. I distributed thousands of "Deception Dollars" in car door handles, shopping carts, mail boxes & newspaper racks. I've popped into other non-gold messageboards over the past ~11 years since I woke up, and posted on-topic msgs, but ending with this nifty .GIF as a 'signature', linking to good 911 truth sites,

http://noliesradio.org/images/wtc7small.gif

Anyways, like I criticized of Fetzer & Friend, IMHO 'infighting' over exotic (911) theories, not provable or disprovable, just sucks the oxygen out of the room, and compromises truthers' energies in conducting more effective activities in reaching new, blue-pill people; not burning our energies preaching to the choir. o)(~

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Stephen Speilberg was shown on video and still photos being at the scene of BB and Dr. Fetzer said "it is well known in Hollywood that Speilberg was involved in BB event."

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I don't really cite that item as fact, coz I haven't seen anything but the BB photo with the beard & baseball cap guy who looks similar in appearance to Spielberg. The cap & beard obfuscating his true head/face is too ambiguous for me. I know Fetzer cites the BB/Spielberg "sighting" matter-of-factly as being somehow confirmed; but he also states emphatically that Paul McCartney died in 1966....

He's back!

March 2, 2015
William Shanley Freed From Prison, Files New Court Docs ²⁹

My gosh has it been that long, 10 years?

I think what has most changed is the overall perceptions of the msm. The only real supporters of official msm story lines left in the real world are those snugged closely sucking off the teet of it. And easily regarded as such.

This is only an estimation by myself, a rather dwarvy hobbit type fellow.

Here is a VT article that has photos and special section on Speilberg with photos. Not impressed with any photos these days. Am convinced BB thing was very staged. Nathan Folks showed us that the guy with the cowboy hat, Arrendondo, was an actor in a film he made and released six months before Boston Bombing. That was the most solid info. we have had on crisis actors at the Boston event.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01...ccess/featured image (Spielberg)



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The Boston bombing hoax
That Steven Spielberg was producing “The Boston Bombing” may be unknown to the public, but Nathan Folks has confirmed to me that it’s well-known in Hollywood. He also expressed his dismay that someone of the prominence of Spielberg would be willing to perpetrate such a monstrous fraud on the American people. He was interviewed about the staging of the event by Voice of Russia. In a discussion of his interview (with images embedded), Nathan explained that they even used “green screen” technology to combine foregrounds with background imported on film:"

discussion link

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...-a-false-flag/


As I have said before, I recoil at the collectivization of the so-caledl "truth movement." Also do not like the prostitution of the term "truth." I have never accepted any one theory but I have listened to all the theories, watched all the 9-11 videos, read all the articles, and listened to all the radio interviews and have done so since 9-11-01.

My gut told me Dr. Steven Jones, and Richard Gage and all his spin-off groups are telling deliberate untruth. They have huge sums of money coming in and I think that money is mainly coming from Fedzilla (my new favorite term to describe the USA Brotherhood of Darkness). The new book by Fedzilla shill, Rebekah Roth, shows us Fedzilla is still peddling its latest brand of 9-11 disinfo. Rptj os obvious disinfo person all the way.

I try to find bits and pieces of solid data, which may or may not be regarded as "solid evidence" depending on your definitions of terms.

I like Dr. Fetzer's approach and he always tells us science is about probabilities and is always done in a "tentative and fallible" way.

Important sources of data about certain aspects of 9-11 that are almost universally suppressed in all of the alternative media are what really need to be brought to light. “”To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize” (Voltaire ?) Those findings by alternative researchers that most all of us are "not allowed" to speak about are probably where the most truth is found. While wanting every bit of information on any part of 9-11, I still think we ought to be able to talk about who had the means, the motive and the opportunity to pull off this gambit.

I did all the street action and handouts stuff a long time and a long time ago including one full year 2007 of Saturdays in front of state capitol building. The two of us of about 25 people who believed there was no data or evidence of planes had to stay mum because the people there were big Alex Jones / Dr. Steven Jones groupies.

Christopher Bollyn, because he so strongly supports Steven Jones theory but at the same time goes on about the Jews doing it seems just like another government disinfo operative to me now. Something about the value of just looking at all the theories but holding off on fully accepting any one theory rings true to me. Noticing what any one person's theory absolutely will not talk about - that is, WHO done it - gives me a lot of information.

They had a one legged gorgeous gal on the stands the other day. Listening to her all I could think of was how lucky she was that all that shrapnel that took her leg avoided messing up her face.

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They had a one legged gorgeous gal on the stands the other day. Listening to her all I could think of was how lucky she was that all that shrapnel that took her leg avoided messing up her face.

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I wonder how far away from the blast she was? Couple thousand miles?

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I wonder how far away from the blast she was? Couple thousand miles?

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She musta heard about it on the news 'cause she was on the stand testifying.

cnn report raises questions about trial -- possible actor posing as little brother

his friends were surprised at the heavy russian accent the accused is speaking with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq9H..._U_zA&index=28

Here is a recent two=hour audio by James Fetzer
summarizing BMB.

Also is a summarizing BMB update on YouTube by him somewhere.

http://s56.podbean.com/pb/e01e2457ec...ealep36mp3.mp3


Also he does good articles on VeteransToday about the trial going on.

Faked video, faked trials, faked attorneys, fakked witnesses, fake defendants, fake plaintiffs.

and let us not the fake 16 amputee crisis actors and the several hospitals and doctors who were in on the fakery regarding the amputees' treatment. Over 60 million dollars has been reported to have been given to the 16 fake amputees who sustained their amputations long before the BMB, the ones who exist that is.

this week - boston hoax researchers on john b wells caravan to midnight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNycFsCvve0

Government/Hollywood Complex To Sell Martial Law In New Films

• Conspiracy
• Police State
• Social Engineering
• Surveillance Society

by Elle - Mar 6, 2016
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By Bernie Suarez



A massive wave of government propaganda is coming and the method of transmission will be Hollywood. Hollywood is one of the most important brainwashing tools to keep the masses ignorant of reality and government corruption. And as we’ve seen in the past, it is designed to reinforce numerous government lies the masses are supposed to believe. Whenever Hollywood releases a film endorsing a government narrative it usually represents the final phase of a false flag, staged event narrative being sold.


Remember what former CIA director William Casey said. Until EVERYTHING that everyone believes is a lie, the control system feels they are not done lying to you yet.


When it comes to propaganda, Hollywood operates under a different set of rules, as they have the liberty to fictionally represent a story under the guise of “entertainment” without having to be accurate about what really happened. A close look at this issue reveals how powerful and effective the Hollywood-Government complex is at cementing massive government lies in the psyche of the general public.


So it shouldn’t surprise us when it is being reported that Hollywood producers are in race to put out not one but two films about the Boston bombing hoax staged in April of 2013 featuring numerous crisis actors. One film Patriots Day will serve to not only reinforce the Boston bombing staged event but to glorify “lockdown” and deceive viewers into worshiping police and psychologically re-accepting that a lockdown was necessary to catch the “bad guys”, thus serving to authenticate future lockdowns as necessary also.


Another film being scheduled for release this year Boston Strong is also based on the Boston bombing false flag event and the concept of heroism. Both films appear to correlate “strength” with obedience to lockdown as well as “patriotism” and obedience to lockdown, and both are psychological operations on the general public being likely secretly funded by the state.

So without any shame, the storyline behind Patriots Day admits the idea is to sell the manhunt against the Tsarnaev accused patsy brothers and the lockdown of Watertown which ensued. The lockdownitself seems to be the focus of the emotion and heroism in these movies more so than the overall false flag narrative which has been debunked and exposed on many levels.

more:http://www.zengardner.com/government...own-new-films/