Re: 150 Militia Take Over Malhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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monty
Keep an eye on this folks. This could be potentially explosive.. Stay tuned..
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This must be one of the longest, well-managed, still-on-topic threads in internet forum history.
Bravo Monty!
Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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Tumbleweed
I agree and that is my reason for thinking they were naive. Resisting the Federal government gets you killed. Not resisting also gets you killed in the end just as it did in Ukraine when the land, livestock and tools were taken away from the white christian farmers.
I've urged people to read Miron Dolots book "Execution by Hunger" because history repeats and what happened there can happen here. It's probably a look in to the future for what's coming here for us at the hands of our Bolshevik Jew controlled government.
I concur: Dolot's work is essential to understand what nearly all governments mean to decent people. Robert Conquest's Harvest of Sorrow is another.
Unfortunately, my grandmother lived it, so I know too much about it.
The Rosenfeld regime "recognized" the USSR during the height of this real "holocaust."
As for resistance, always be at the ready, but once you commit, never make the mistake of thinking you can go back or "negotiate" with the anti-humans.
Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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crimethink
I concur: Dolot's work is essential to understand what nearly all governments mean to decent people. Robert Conquest's Harvest of Sorrow is another.
Unfortunately, my grandmother lived it, so I know too much about it.
The Rosenfeld regime "recognized" the USSR during the height of this real "holocaust."
As for resistance, always be at the ready, but once you commit, never make the mistake of thinking you can go back or "negotiate" with the anti-humans.
Your words I've bolded are one of the reasons I've urged people to read Dolots book. Knowing that resistance or even non resistance to the Satanists will bring you death can help you make the decision of whether to die fighting and take some with you or die slowly in a prison beaten, tortured, worked or starved to death.
The Bundys, Lavoy Finicum, the Hammonds and the farmers in Ukraine didn't go looking for trouble, it came to them with the government trying to take their land, livestock, water and grazing rights. All of them just wanted to be left alone to grow their crops, take care of their livestock and raise their families.
Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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monty
This is more of stupid and stubborn as national liberty alliance is trying to act as US CITIZENS and run a common law grand jury where they have NO STANDING.
http://annavonreitz.com/meandnla.pdf
http://annavonreitz.com/replytodaresh.pdf
http://annavonreitz.com/nlaround2.pdf
http://annavonreitz.com/amiworried.pdf
Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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Bigjon
Because they have no standing the documents will be filed in the trash. I am not supporting the NLA; like you I believe they are misguided.
The reason I posted this was to call attention to Ammon and LaVoy's affidavits, as the information contained may reveal their thinking and answer the question why they drove into an ambush. I should have stated that when I made the post.
Tumblweed has provided an excellent expalanation to that question.
Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
Michele Fiore has done things that have made me question her motives, I am not alone. She also made statements about a great legal team to represent Bundys that never materialized.
FIORE, FRAUD, AND THE UNION CARDS
Posted on August 30, 2016 by The Oath with Chastity
By: The Oath
Malheur Wildlife Refuge Occupation
Not long after the final four left the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in handcuffs, Michele Fiore of Nevada showed up at the jail in Portland with LiUNA (Laborer’s International Union of North America) http://www.liuna.org/ blank sign-up union cards. She was able to pass them to the defendant’s housed at the Multnomah County Jail, through a slot beneath the viewing window. The inmates were instructed by Fiore that an attorney would be provided to them via the union at no charge. Many of those incarcerated believed the assemblywoman and signed them and passed them back to her. A few wisely saw this as a ridiculous proposition as none of the prisoners actually worked in the laborer’s industry and the union clearly did not apply to them. One of these cards was ultimately sent to a member of the Oath and we now have one of the actual cards.
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Interestingly enough, several months later when one of the defendants who had signed the card was out on pretrial release, he decided to go ahead and claim that big attorney he was promised for free. After a lengthy conversation with an agent of the union via telephone, he was assured that he was absolutely not listed in their database. The employee continued to ask him what union he belonged to, and when he stated none, she became angry.
The LiUNA union headquarters is located in New York City—Fiore’s native home. We have a source that spoke on the condition of anonymity, tell us that Fiore was able to secure these union cards from one of the big union bosses in New York, because he owed her a favor. What favor could a democratic union boss possibly owe an alleged conservative politician? One must also be made aware of the fact that this same union made a sizeable donation to Michele Fiore, to the tune of $10,000.00. Not a bad little score for having some indicted inmates fraudulently sign some union cards.
One must query, what was the purpose of these union cards? Why was Fiore owed a favor by a liberal union boss in New York, when she votes against the unions in Nevada? Is Fiore all that she professes to be in her pistol packin’ mama GOP routine, or do those New York roots run deep? How would the legitimate members of this laborer’s union feel if their dues were spent providing high priced lawyers for months on end for a complex case on the opposite coast? This union is pro Hillary Clinton and the patriots are upset about the Clinton connection to Uranium One and all of the uranium at the Malheur Wildlife Refuge, so why would they want to do business with this union? Let’s not forget that it is illegal to represent oneself as being a memb er of a union, when one does not work in the industry of that union and has never paid a dime in union dues. What exactly is the motive behind the actions of Ms. Fiore, the C.O.W.S. member?
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
^^now that's fucking weird, all of it.
Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
Witnesses and residents of Burns, Oregon in a panic over Judge Brown allowing live video feed of Malheur trial.
Witnesses In Bundy Case Terrified Over Judge Ruling For Live Feed Of Trial Into Burns Oregon
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Witnesses for both the defense and the prosecution, set to testify in the controversial trial over the Occupation of the Malheur Refuge, are terrified by the idea of possible retaliation from the community, if Judge Anna Brown allows the BLM to move forward with their plans for providing a “live feed” of the trial, to what one Portland Paper (OPB) is calling the “VICTIMS” of the standoff.
In a frantic call to GMN this morning one witness expressed their concerns by saying, the Judge obviously doesn’t understand the dynamics of the situation in Burns, which brought hundreds of protesters there in the first place. The Government has gone to great lengths to protect informants and FBI agents from public scrutiny in fear of their safety — Why then are other witnesses not being allowed the same protection?
Burns Oregon is a community divided and the deck is stacked in favor on the “anti-Bundy side” making the life of over 40% of the population in Harney County a living nightmare.
Children are being bullied, business owners are being threatened and the fact they are going to add fuel to the fire by broadcasting this trial to what many perceive as aggressive employees of the United States Government is horrifying, said one witness.
“We are terrified; These people running the show in Portland are failing to protect the very people they say were terrorized by the occupation.”
The witnesses are quick to point out that it’s not just those who will be testifying for the defense who are concerned; Those set to testify against the Occupation are also expressing deep concern over their well being as the government prepares to put them on camera and blast their testimony out to a community thats already on the edge.
” I never wanted to testify in this trial, says another witness and the government is forcing me. What happens to me if somebody gets the wrong idea?” explained a witness for the Government
After the Occupation ended the media and the Judge lost interest in Burns and Harney County in general, and the witnesses say this ruling shows the complete disconnect between the court and her attorneys assigned to represent their best interest on both sides in this trial. Witnesses took note that not one Defense Attorney objected to the governments request for a live feed into Burns leaving them all to questions just who this trial is for, and just how much they care about them as human beings.
Whether you fall on the side of the government in this one, or the Occupiers, witnesses on both sides agree that a live feed of this trial is irresponsible and creates a terrifyingly dangerous potential for them in Harney County and definitely puts lives in danger.
GMN spoke to an attorney close to the case, but not representing any clients involved, and his opinion was as follows;
If you are going to allow a live feed it is appalling that it is going to be for those who are so openly bias. If we are going to allow a live feed for the obviously anti-protestor group then what is stopping the court from allowing the whole of America to watch this proceeding?
It is unfair that once again the government is allowed to run the narrative and does not allow for others on the supporting side to have an opportunity to watch in support of these witnesses who have so much much to lose in Harney County.
I too was shocked that not one Defense Attorney objected on behalf of the safety of their witnesses.
A message from Harney County went out to Judge Anna Brown and various Attorneys involved in the case this morning;
I just want to express my concern in regards to the news of a trial being live streamed to the local BLM office. I personally have a HUGE problem with this. Those of us who have been subpeoned will only be showcased as “domestic terrorist” sympathizers allowing the already bigoted community of government workers to ostracize, alienate, and ridicule us more than they already have. In my opinion this is a gross abuse of power by the judge and just shows an assignment of elitism to the government workers they have so loosely characterized as “victims”.
Unless you have lived in Burns, Hines, or Harney County it is difficult to understand what is really going on here. In January our community suffered from a spiderweb of fractures that have just grown deeper as the months have passed. Many of us have suffered in our businesses because of our actions and expression of our opinions during the occupation. The spread of hatred has even boiled over to our children who are suffering at school at the hands of these “victims” and their children.
Despite my feelings and or the reason I was supeonead, my concern is for the safety of my children and the ability to maintain my home and business in Harney County. My kids have to go to school with the wives of many BLM employees. My business is dependent on locals. What will Judge Brown offer as a solution when my children are slighted of an opportunity because their teacher is married to a BLM employee who watched my testimony live in the comfort of his office and he didn’t agree with me? What will Judge Brown offer as a solution when my business is forced to close its doors because of lost contracts with either government agencies or locals that have relation to disgruntled BLM employees?
It is my opinion that allowing and condoning the live stream of the trial to the local BLM office is is a blatant disregard for the safety and wellbeing of all witnesses that have been subpoenaed ~Witness Signed
Witnesses who will be testifying for both the Prosecution and the Defense are asking community groups and social media platforms, on both sides, to please call the Attorneys and Prosecutors in this case and ask them to respectfully ask Judge Brown to drop the plans providing a live feed into Harney County.
In a case where witness tampering through intimidation is already a problem, witnesses believe this ruling has opened the door for more of the same. It’s time officials in Portland base their decisions concerning Harney County on reality and stop making this about them and remember the people they are supposed to be representing.
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Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
Opinion from Mike Arnold, Ammon Bundy's former attorney
Arnold Law Firm2 hrs ·
Is the LaVoy Finicum Shooting Relevant to the Conspiracy Defense?
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Here's one possible argument: the reports of government overreach in the past doesn't even have to be true to be relevant to someone's state of mind in possessing firearms at a protest or driving away from a police stop. It just has to be reasonable for them to believe it. And whether it's reasonable to believe the stories and photos about the Bundy Ranch's government snipers is for the jury to decide.
Not knowing that there was an active cover-up of evidence in this case, after the shooting, I requested in open court to have an investigator present while the FBI was processing the evidence.
The government destroyed evidence and killed a witness in a high-profile case and defendants and defense counsel had to learn of it from journalists.
The FBI didn’t want the sun to shine in on their investigation, because it threatened their control of the narrative that these protesters were violent men that deserved to be shot at and killed.
http://snip.ly/finicum/#http://orego...-shooting.html
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Branch Davidian fire at Waco, Texas, complements of Bill Clinton, Janet Reno et,al.
Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
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monty
Witnesses and residents of Burns, Oregon in a panic over Judge Brown allowing live video feed of Malheur trial
This is a turning point in the state of mass consciousness in America.
The Federal regime is so confident in the Psychodrome control of Boobus Americanus, that it is not only permitting, but encouraging live coverage of its Kangaroo Court "justice" system.
I don't think for a second that the Federal regime will be holding a "trial" any more "fair" than the usual, with any rules changing, so we have reached a point in America where the masses, for whatever reason or motivation, no longer truly care if a miscarriage of justice occurs, in front of their eyes. Oh, sure, some of them will whine and moan, but, in the end, they will do nothing else.
At one point in time in America, it would be the "judge" and the persecutor whose heads would be in nooses for this.
Instead, now, they seek to demonize "enemies of the state," and surely, as fears support, Boobus will engage in, at least, Two-Minutes Hate, if not far more, against them at the encouragement of the "justice" system.
