No missile, let alone one large enough to somehow knock down five light poles, was visible either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
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No missile, let alone one large enough to somehow knock down five light poles, was visible either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
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Originally Posted by Hatha Sunahara
The only opposing forces here are conspiracy v.s. fringe conspiracy.
I've stated a few times now this is the only aspect of the entire event I have an issue with.
Did you mention earlier you believe the September Clues narrative of the no planes it was all TV fakery angle?
I posted a debunk on that from the #7 "this is an orange" guy. He did a good job with it.
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Originally Posted by joboo
A missile can get past 100th of a second ......a big plane can not.................how hard is it to understand............http://www.stlmag.com/Blogs/Relish/S...ich/brains.jpg
Well of course...it's the light pole devouring magic missile!
So tiny, yet so tough, and long lasting, like the energizer bunny!
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.50459....1&H=144&W=160
^ Also loves a cavernous rabbit hole
ah yes the light pole did it...........conclusive evidence of a plane ........hahahah.......
Yup....five of them just fainted into destruction during rush hour traffic at the mere sight of the scary zig zagging energizer bunny magic missile!Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
They also dispatched a levitating highway crossing crane equipped with a cloaking device! The light pole mangler 5000 model!
You hae a fixation on these poles. Maybe they were knocked down by the decoy aircraft? In any case the film shows the tip of something that looks like a missile and the next frame shows an explosion 'blooming' out of the face of the bldg. Any thing as big as an aircraft would show up in the time frame of the two seperate frames. The real telling fact here is that at the instant of the explosion which we are seeing bloom out of the face of the building, some portion of an aircraft as massive as the one purported to have hit the building, would at least have the rear of itself visible in the video frame.Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
I'm sorry that you cannot face the truth. When we have been lied to about everything else, you expect them to have a clean story on the pentagon?
Face it ,its all you have left.....light poles....hahahahahQuote:
Originally Posted by joboo
Ok wait, it gets better, now there's a decoy plane!
Just light poles?
Well no there's people that think they can chop up, and plant, 184 bodies destined to undergo meticulous forensic analysis, and actually try it. Only a sheer genius would come up with a rock solid plan like that! Maybe the body chopper 5000 was cloaked as well! What could go wrong!?! Get more people involved it keeps the secret better!
Heck maybe they had cloaked space lizard agents from the future planting cloaked evidence in real time via a worm hole. That's also explains it.
Maybe they beamed it all down into place just like star trek! The best explanation yet!
this trained body searching dog in the VID found nothing at the pentaconQuote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
what starting to bring lizards and star trek into it now......they wont help
"Ok wait, it gets better, now there's a decoy plane! "---joobo
There are many eyewitnesses who say they saw a plane fly toward the pentagon that day. This is suddenly news to you? You have been argueing your case for days here and you just now got the idea that we believe the plane that was seen was a decoy? You are thick, son. Thick as a brick.
Yes let's use a cloaked decoy plane that magically flies low enough to knock over light poles, then somehow pulls out, and suddenly disappears! Hit the building with it?... no way, just the light poles, and it's magic missile to the rescue!
Better yet, let's use dead silent nuclear powered cloaked heavy machinery to haul cloaked engines, and cloaked landing gear, and tonnes of other cloaked debris in and out around all over the place without anyone noticing a thing!
If that fails simply pull out the Men In Black magic marker mind eraser! What a plan! What could go wrong?!?
Photo of ultra light debris, with silent nuclear powered heavy machinery off to the left with cloaking technology disabled:
https://lh3.ggpht.com/_PcI9awojNLQ/R..._Pentagono.jpg
This post is really great. After 2 weeks of arguement, joobo finally figures out that witnesses actually did see a plane going toward the pentagon. He has been argueing all along without this critical information. His critical abilities to argue are so atrophied, if they ever existed to begin with, that he did not realize that critical to our understanding of the event, the plane which was obviously seen by many witnesses, must have been a decoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
Explain your lack of understanding on this critical point joobo.
This photo is all the evidence I need that you're not at all interested in the pursuit of truth, or justice...Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
Yeap....fake cloaked debris planted inside the building with silent cloaked heavy shape shifting machinery that somehow fit through doorways all over the place.
Amazing stuff!
Clearly the work of futuristic cloaked space lizards, transporting through worm holes in the time/space fabric...it's as though they were never even there!
Nobody would ever notice a thing! Just pull out the magic marker mind eraser, and voila! What a rock solid viable plan! Flawless execution!
The decoy easy button plane flying right at the pentagon knocking over light poles that suddenly disappeared. Of course! The space lizards got it from the planet Romulus! I saw it on a Star Trek episode once! Use the same plane that witnesses saw which I've been point out all along?...no way! Pull out the zig zagging cloaked magic missile that nobody saw.Quote:
Originally Posted by woodman
Maybe the easy button was cloaked too, and they couldn't see it to press it in time?!?
There were 53 passengers on flight 77 not 180, joboo.Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
You make it too easy.
Serpo's post #369 contains a link to a video of 9-11 showing clearly a wingless missile of size and configuration compatible with a cruise missile hitting the Pentagon. It is as clear as the nose on one's face. Why are you wasting time and energy on the paid government disinformation troll? We have more important things to do, like disseminating this video far and wide. The video is in .flv, an unusual format requiring RealPlayer to view. It would be great if someone could convert this .flv video to other more general formats like quicktime and windows media player.
hahaha he just answered to "halo" bwahhaaa he just outed himself as the paid shill from the adl office that we have been dealing with for 10 years or more. flag this post JQP, jewboo = halo, point man for skykike. he knows he cant win the debate on point by virtue of the absurdity of his position, but his plan is to spam spam ..divert-delay -deny-occlude...this is a paid government shill..stealing as much personal information ashe can to give to his handlers.Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
Can I be moderator just for a little while?Quote:
Originally Posted by JDRock
I'd still like to hear Pattern Of Projection Girl's answer to:Quote:
Originally Posted by JDRock
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Originally Posted by PatColo
The limits of Israel's online hasbara
"... Deserting the Internet is not an option, but Israel has to acknowledge its limitations.Pattern Of Projection GirlHasbara can achieve at most a tie. "
more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...emium-1.479298
I did a search for "magic missile" over on the david icke forum, and lo and behold they had confirmed pictures from user Lord_Xenu858 of the space lizards deploying their cloaking technology while planting all the evidence via transporters!
They also had pictures of fragments of the zig zagging magic missile which actually used time warp hyper drive technology. It actually created a rift in the time space continuum that caused the missile to appear in five different places at once taking down all the light poles simultaneously!
Amazing stuff! You guys were right! It was shape shifting space lizards after all. Imagine my surprise!
I just purchased a turbo driven 200fps rabbit hole digger for $8,000 on amazon.com to help me get up to speed...express delivery was included for only $50 extra...sweet deal!
This is great news! After you turn it on stick your head in the hole and pull the trigger. MAKE sure you automatically upload the video to GSUS.Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
Good news is I won't have to! I can dig a mega rabbit hole for you to fly down into using the time rift technology addon. Lord_Xenu858 graciously shared the schematics with the entire forum for free!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2
Think of all the long hours of endless digging I just saved you in your back yard!
I can turbo dig your rabbit holes remotely for you for $50, so feel free to hit up all your relatives for cash, and let me know when you're finished making the phone calls!
I can also do a package deal of 3 mega rabbit holes for $150..special price for you as a limited time offer!
You mean this one Mamboni................Quote:
Originally Posted by mamboni
download flv player
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c7KDbHOUso8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=c7KDbHOUso8
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9/11: Video of Missile Hitting Pentagon Leaked
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10 Years Late, A Cruise Type Missile Hits Pentagon on 9/11
Suppressed video released below 10 years later clearly shows Pentagon attack was a cruise type missile; either a Tomahawk or Russian/Soviet Granit as described by Dimitri Khalezov
Gov. Jesse Ventura Proves 9/11 Cover-Up asks “Will America’s Government Fall?”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont....-18-12.07.gif“thought it was a bomb…walked out through the hole..burning wreckage..no plane parts…threatened to keep silent”
Former Vice President Cheney Accused of Engineering Pentagon Attack
Donald Rumsfeld Cited as Possible Accomplice
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
Confirmed sources in the Nigerian government tell us, in order to keep former Vice President Cheney out of prison for crimes involving Nigeria, $500,000,000 in bribes have been promised, negotiated by former President George H.W. Bush.
Now, only a day later, Cheney faces possible charges, so many charges they can only be imagined, for planning the Pentagon attack on 9/11.
TV host, Jesse Ventura, former Navy Seal, former Governor of Minnesota, on a one hour documentary on prime-time American television, makes an open and shut criminal case tying Cheney, Rumsfeld and officials throughout the US government with complicity in the planning, execution and subsequent cover-up of the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon.
YouTube – Veterans Today -(clip is taken down)
According to experts on 9/11, engineers, pilots, intelligence officers and members of our military, Jesse Ventura “hit the joboo on the head.” Ventura, using evidence developed over 9 years by hundreds of individuals, outlines the utter impossibility of the government’s cover story on 9/11 and systematically debunks it using testimony and scientific evidence.
Ventura cites, in an interview with a 9/11 commissioner, a possible motive for the Pentagon attack being included with the attacks on the World Trade Center. $2,300,000,000,000, yes 2.3 trillion US dollars had disappeared, cited only the day before in a televised statement by Secretary Rumsfeld, money “gone missing” from the Pentagon’s accounting. The area of the Pentagon hit by a missile or destroyed by explosives or both contained all records of this missing money.
NO PLANE, NO WAY, NOT EVEN CLOSE
Ventura proves, beyond any doubt that no airplane ever hit the Pentagon. As the video shows, not even a highly trained airline pilot was capable of the maneuvers claimed. Long before, it had been proven that the 757 was incapable of the task, either the maneuvers or the speed and trajectory. The plane would have come apart, there is no disagreement with this and hasn’t been for some time, yet nothing had been done. Why?It is also clearly shown that there is absolutely no evidence of any kind showing a plane hit the Pentagon, no wreckage, no bodies, no luggage. Items claimed to have been taken to Dover Air Force Base, bodies, plane parts, were never at the Pentagon as both video and testimony prove.There is also proof that the government threatened witnesses, telling them to support the “aircraft scenario.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont...missle-911.jpgNO MUSLIMS, NO HIJACKERS, NO BOX CUTTERS, ALL PROVEN LIES FINALLY
The basis for the conspiracy theory regarding Muslim hijackers with box cutters was based on supposed phone calls made by Barbara Olson, wife of Bush Solicitor General. Solicitor General Olson claimed he talked to his wife on a
cell phone, spoke with her at length, while she described the hijackings as now dramatized by Hollywood.
When it was proven that a cell phone is incapable of making such calls, Olson claimed it was a “seat back phone.” When it was proven that there were no seat back phones on American Airlines 757 aircraft, nothing further was asked.
Then investigations shows he received one call, lasting “0″ seconds. Ventura questions as to whether Olson was duped or complicit? Should he be arrested too? Was his wife, Barbara, ever really on the plane?
Then Ventura looks into the flight itself. Not only was the flight recorder “dead” but during the flight itself, the transponder was turned off. Even more suspicious, the plane disappeared from radar for 28 minutes.
There is no discussion of this 28 minutes, but speculation, perhaps no longer speculation, has long been that the flight landed. As to what happened then, we cannot guess, or can we. One of my friends, a former Pentagon official, had a
friend on that aircraft. Not long ago, he asked me.“Gordon, what do you think happened to him, do you think he was executed? Bullet in the brain as they stepped off the plane or something even worse?”Ventura didn’t go there. None of us want to. It requires visualizing a scene out of Auschwitz.
Can Americans be so brutal, so devious, so traitorous? It isn’t just Jesse Ventura that is willing to risk his life to bring it out, Fox News journalist Geraldo Rivera, several weeks ago, debunked the Building 7 collapse at the World Trade Center as “controlled demolition.”
YouTube – Veterans Today -
9/11 COMMISSION DUPED, ADMITS THERE WAS NO REAL INVESTIGATION AT ALL
Commission video’s redacted to remove testimony by the Secretary of Transportation, transcripts altered, witnesses blocked, evidence, tons of evidence of government conspiracy withheld, this is the case against the government. Threats, intimidation, going on for years, this is proven. Were there more than threats, murders, “heart attacks” or threats against families?
Ventura proves the Pentagon was a government conspiracy, he “names names.” Geraldo makes any other explanation for Building 7 other than “controlled demolition” pure insanity.
IGNORING EVIDENCE, PROOF OF DICTATORSHIP OR ARE ARRESTS PLANNED?
It isn’t as though the evidence presented by Governor Ventura and Geraldo Rivera or even the other stories, Judge Napolitano’s revelations of knowledge of the attacks as early as 1999, was new. All has been know, all highly credible and all systematically ignored, attacked by the press, suppressed by courts, officials at every level.
9/11 and the recent revelations aren’t proof of a conspiracy by 2 men, or Israel. It is proof that there never was an Al Qaeda and that the deaths, two wars, the 9/11 deaths and the carnage across the world wrought by the United States was part of a criminal conspiracy, one that could only be perpetrated by a dictatorship under the guise of representative democracy.
Everything we have seen, and millions around the world have watched, nobody can ignore it anymore, it all says that what has happened is something no American would allow, not if this still were America. Jesse Ventura proved something startling to most, suspected by some. He proved that, at some point in our past, 10 years, more, we don’t know, our government was overthrown.
MORE WIKILEAKS, MORE ASSANGE, MORE 9/11 COVER-UP
The strongest and most vocal opponent of a new 9/11 investigation is Julian Assange of Wikleaks. If any individual outside the US government were to be named as most complicit in a 9/11 cover-up, it would be Julian Assange.
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Everything since then, certainly 9/11 and now, the news about Iran and, especially Wikileaks, all subterfuge. When former National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinsky cited Wikileaks on a PBS interview, televised nationally, that Wikileaks was the word of an intelligence agency, Israel never reported it or responded.
Instead, they attributed Brzezinski’s quote to me:http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont....-18-13.08.gif“Speaking to Haaretz, Duff added that ‘it sticks out like a sore thumb that WikiLeaks is obviously concocted by an intelligence agency.’”This is what Brzezinski told Judy Woodruff of PBS:http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont...11-320x169.gifBUSH, OBAMA, CONTINUING DICTATORSHIP, CONTINUING COVER-UP, CONTINUING WAR
ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI: But I think the most serious issues are not those which are getting the headlines right now. Who cares if Berlusconi is described as a clown. Most Italians agree with that.
Who cares if Putin is described as an alpha dog? He probably is flattered by it.
The real issue is, who is feeding Wikipedia on this issue — Wiki — Wiki — WikiLeaks on this issue? They’re getting a lot of information which seems trivial, inconsequential, but some of it seems surprisingly pointed. …The very pointed references to Arab leaders could have as their objective undermining
their political credibility at home, because this kind of public identification of their hostility towards Iran could actually play against them at home.
It’s, rather, a question of whether WikiLeaks are being manipulated by interested parties that want to either complicate our relationship with other governments or want to undermine some governments, because some of these items that are being emphasized and have surfaced are very pointed.
And I wonder whether, in fact, there aren’t some operations internationally, intelligence services, that are feeding stuff to WikiLeaks, because it is a unique opportunity to embarrass us, to embarrass our position, but also to undermine our relations with particular governments.
Barak Obama ran for president on a platform based on justice, ending the wars and bringing accountability to government after 8 years of scandals, deceit and what can only be called “hooliganism and piracy.” Instead, he has done nothing, the wars continue, drugs are flowing from Afghanistan even faster than before, 9/11 evidence, now overwhelming and impossible to ignore is still ignored.
Americans looking for reform wonder if Bush left at all. Those complicit are, though few admit it, disturbed by seeing America led by an African American. The visible public face on the very well financed attacks on President Obama are all very much based on race hatred. This has long been the most effective tool for keeping Americans divided and compliant. How else could a major political movement be successful supporting the least popular and least successful policies in American history?
Who would want a return to policies enacted by the least successful president in American history, George W. Bush, who left office with an approval record listed at 22%. Many would find a number lower, even half, more credible. President Clinton, after surviving impeachment for lying about sexual misconduct left office with 68% approval. Thus, we connect the dots and wake up one morning, informed, enraged and utterly powerless.
Even through the assaults on President Obama, many financed by the Koch brothers, tied to ultra-nationalists in Israel, whether there was a real change of government is not clear. As Jesse Ventura pointed out, while Vice President Dick Cheney was getting reports of a plane approaching the Pentagon, seemingly even orchestrating the attack himself, President Bush was in Florida reading to school children. Two years of Obama have been similar, too similar.
What can we assume from this? Is, in fact, the President of the United States no longer Commander in Chief? Did our government hand itself over to “shadow” rule with Bush or did it happen earlier, after President Reagan’s dementia made him unable to manage the cabal that surrounded him? How long have we been operating under no Constitution at all?
The headline on today’s New York Times:http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont....-18-13.13.gifThe headline on today’s Washington Post:What is “their” message? Certainly not “never again.” In fact we know that “again” is just around the corner, an Iran war with or without a new 9/11, planned and executed by the same folks, older, not wiser and certainly more pathologically insane and murderous.
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..and we continue to allow it.
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Gordon Duff?
haha what a joke...on top of it all Gordon Duff the proven disinfo agent says it was true!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YZufw3G931Q
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[QUOTE=joboo;612756]Gordon Duff?
haha what a joke...on top of it all Gordon Duff the proven disinfo agent says it was true!!
SAID the dis-info agent provacetuer himself!! bwaaahahaa
[QUOTE=JDRock;612801]Well that's your own paranoid delusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
My only "crime" in this thread is I refuse to be a david icke caliber missiletard.
Magic zigzagging missile's! It's as stupid as it gets.
Whose version of said "entire event" are you ref'ing now? This guy's?Quote:
Originally Posted by joboo
http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...0&d=1326280140
Specifically,
So yes, asking you to SPECULATE here based upon your years of sane/rational research & expert internet "debate":Quote:
Originally Posted by PatColo
Was America Attacked By Scary Moozlems On 9/11? ???
Your GSUS FANS are dying to know, Pattern of Projection Girl!! :D
People's brains fell out over the missile narrative.
It's the only truth based aspect I have an issue with other than September clues, and Judy woods.
Far fetched well poisoning theories designed to embrace the David Icke lunatic mentality.
There's a lot of nuts in the world.
Being a "truther" does not automatically make one exempt. See GLP for additional confirmation.
Much of it has been hijacked, and promoted to kill the movement.
Thats OK we are all entitled too our own opinions ...........................just like IckeQuote:
Originally Posted by joboo
as 99% of what we are fed is BS then so called truthers as you call them will look pretty strange as the truth will also.
I agree, as am I. Some people don't agree with that statement when it applies to me though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
I'm the "megaphone undercover Jew enemy internet operative!!" for not going full David Icke level retard with the logic. They like to pull out the knives for an attack the messenger dick stab.
No I congratulate you on holding your opinion against all odds but now we must move on as this 9/11 thing has bogged everyone down.
Its not that important one way or another in some ways.
the question: "Was America Attacked By Scary Moozlems On 9/11?" remains of principal importance. Because as David Ray Griffin concluded therein,Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
The tiny but noisy/dogmatic "Hijacked Airliner Hit Pentagon" (HAHP) clique's theory, being in line with djooz' 911 OCT as it is, allows for the possibility that said HAHP was expertly piloted by Hani Hanjour.... also in line with djooz' 911 OCT.Quote:
Conclusion
All the proffered evidence that America was attacked by Scary Moozlemismists on 9/11, when subjected to critical scrutiny, appears to have been fabricated. If that is determined indeed to be the case, the implications would be enormous. Discovering and prosecuting the true perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks would obviously be important. The most immediate consequence, however, should be to reverse those attitudes and policies that have been based on the assumption that America was attacked by Scary Moozlemismists on 9/11.
No HAHP (whether it was in fact missile(s) and/or bombs) eliminates the crucial "scary moozlemismists..." element from (the pentagon portion of) djooz' 911 OCT... crucial because the "scary moozlemismists did 911" element is the whole foundation of djooz' Global War On Terror Hoax. Same reason the difference between Limited-Hangout-LIHOP theories, and djooz-MIHOP Truth remains so crucial-- separating the honest truthers from the shills.
That's why I reckon Pattern of Projection Girl remains so deafeningly silent wrt offering her "educated speculation" on the critical question:
everyone who'd like Pattern of Projection Girl to offer her best speculation re the answer to that ^ question,
please "Thanks" this post. \uu\
Joboo dosnt like the hard questions...............
Bogging everyone down?Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
Since when does the getting to the bottom of what may be the truth have to be all warm, and cozy?
I disagree on it not being important. If people used better judgement on what is logistically possible to execute as a "covert op", everything would be leaps and bounds ahead of where it is now.
Every time something new comes out, there's always a percentage that falls off the deep end. One step forward two steps back. It happens every time without fail.
Here's the opinion of the guy you upheld as the second coming of Christ, and posted probably over a million+ times on GIM:Quote:
Originally Posted by PatColo
Richard Gage re the magic missile:
“We’re concerned that there’s such a lack of information, a lack of good, accurate information,” he said. “There’s so much disinformation, there’s so much misinformation, and there’s so much animosity within the 9/11 Truth movement that our entry into that arena would be more disruptive than helpful"
"But I do believe there was a plane. These witnesses saw a plane, that’s an important distinction and also a disruptive set of elements in the 9/11 Truth movement. Most people in the 9/11 Truth movement think there was a plane.”
So let me guess Pat...is Richard Gage an undercover joo shill too?
What is he hiding?!?!...he must be covering something up!....or is he smart enough to realize that the logistics of it being a missile, are so unbelievably ridiculous it's a movement killer?
Same position as me. So is Richard Gage an undercover joo operative shill or is it something else?
Its just that this isnt the first time we have been through this......
Judging from the responses in this thread, from what I can gather, not much got accomplished the first time around. ;)