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Yep. I know. Even though he knows what it takes to NOT be a U.S. citizen his manifestos all proclaim that he actually is one.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Reds are like that. They even pretend they are Greens and all they want to do is SAVE THE PLANET.
All those cows now. Think of the greenhouse gasses they pass when they digest that sagebrush. TERRIBLE!!! Wouldn't it be far better if we harvest the sagebrush and feed it to the poor?
Care to show the class the evidence that supports your bullshit assertion? You know evidence like the land was purchased for such and such price for such and such use? Just because the Federal government DECLARES land as theirs doesn't make it so. Especially within the border of a state.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7th trump
We have about 70 years of precedent where a law abiding Federal United States Disposed of land in accordance with Article 4, Section 3. In those cases ALL of the land went under the newly formed State's control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ares
This only became a problem after they unlawfully changed the form of the Federal government to a Corporation in 1871. A for profit organization who's main claim to fame is the plunder of the continental united States.
Read united states v gardner 107 F.3d 1314 (9th circiut 1997) to see how the most liberal court in the US interprets Nevada's land rights. Not good
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Originally Posted by Ares
What Does the Constitution Say About Federal Land Ownership?
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The “Bundy stand-off” in Oregon at a federal wildlife refuge has triggered (or, rather, re-triggered) questions about the constitutionality of federal land ownership. Westerners in particular question why the federal government should own nearly 30% of the country. In the West, the issue is particularly important. The federal government has title to about half the territory of the eight Rocky Mountain states, the west coast states, and Alaska. The share of ownership in each of those states ranges from about 30% to about 88%. (Exact figures vary according to the mode of calculation.) Westerners who work with the land tend to hold very critical views of how the federal government manages its holdings.
Over a decade ago I became interested in what the Constitution, as the Founders understood it, had to say about federal land ownership. I researched prior writings on the subject. As often happens, I found most of the relevant legal “scholarship” to be of poor quality. Liberal writers baldly claimed that the federal government could own any land it wants to, however it wants to, for any purpose–and that anyone who disagreed was an “extremist.” Conservative writers usually contended that, except for land held by permission of a host state as an “enclave,” the Constitution required the federal government to grant all in-state acreage to the respective state governments. The evidence marshaled for both conclusions was both scanty and weak. The modern Supreme Court has sided with the liberal view. But the Court’s decisions are few and summarily written. They offer almost no useful explanation.
As has happened so often, therefore, I had to begin anew. I studied the Constitution’s text, the records surrounding the Constitution’s adoption, and other materials. From them, I was able to define with a reasonable degree of certainty the scope of the federal government’s power to acquire, retain, manage, and dispose of land. My conclusions were published in
Federal Land Retention and the Constitution’s Property Clause: The Original Understanding, 76 U. Colo. L. Rev. 327 (2005).
In a nutshell, my findings were:
* Under the Property Clause (Art. IV, Sec. 3, Cl. 2), land titled to the federal government and held outside state boundaries is “Territory.” Federal land held within state boundaries is “other Property.”
* If the host state agrees, the federal government can acquire an “enclave” within the state under the Enclave Clause (I-8-17). This grants governmental jurisdiction to the federal government, but the federal government has to acquire title separately. Washington, D.C. (the most important enclave), for example, is under federal jurisdiction, but much of the land is held by other parties, including individuals.
* The Property Clause gives Congress unconditional power to dispose of property and authority to regulate what is already held. It does not mention a power to acquire.
* Under the Treaty Clause (II-2-2; see also Article VI), the federal government may acquire land outside state boundaries. As long as the area is governed as a territory, the federal government may retain any land it deems best.
* As for acreage (”other Property”) within state boundaries:
Under the Necessary and Proper Clause, the federal government may acquire and retain land necessary for carrying out its enumerated powers. This includes parcels for military bases, post offices, buildings to house federal employees undertaking enumerated functions, and the like. It is not necessary to form federal enclaves for these purposes.
* But within state boundaries the Constitution grants no authority to retain acreage for unenumerated purposes, such as land for grazing, mineral development, agriculture, forests, or parks.
* Once a state is created and is thereby no longer a territory, the federal government has a duty to dispose of tracts not used for enumerated purposes.
* In the process of disposal, the federal government must follow the rules of public trust. It would be a breach of fiduciary duty for the feds to simply grant all of its surplus property to state governments. Each tract must be disposed of in accordance with the best interest of the American people. For example, natural wonders and environmentally sensitive areas (such as those now encompassed by the national parks) might be conveyed under strict conditions to state park authorities or (as in Britain) to perpetual environmental trusts. Land useful only for grazing, mining, or agriculture should be sold or homesteaded, with or without restrictions. The restrictions might include environmental protections, public easements, and protection for hunters and anglers.
Most states were admitted to the union pursuant to treaties, agreements of cession, and/or laws passed by Congress. These are called organic laws. They include, but are not limited to, enabling acts and acts of admission. These laws cannot change the Constitution, but they have some interesting ramifications for federal land ownership. That is a topic for another posting.
My article has been cited widely. But it will not surprise you to learn that many reject the conclusions. Liberals are unhappy, because they want to keep much of our territory socialized. Conservative land activists are disappointed because they want the federal government to convey land to the state governments, not dispose of it in other ways. It is significant, however, that no one has even tried to rebut my conclusions or the evidence for them.
The evidence and the details of how I reached my findings are in the article. Since its publication I’ve uncovered additional evidence, and it has generally corroborated my findings.
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Nevada Assemblywoman: If You Were at Bundy Ranch and Had a Gun, Nevada Prosecutors are Looking to Arrest You within the Next Few Days.
In an exclusive interview with Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore on Friday, she told Oathkeepers News Media Director Jason Van Tatenhove that Nevada prosecutors mentioned the fact that there was another round of "mass" arrests of American patriots who showed up in Bunkerville, Nevada at the Bundy Ranch siege in 2014 with a gun.
"The Nevada prosecutor that was in Oregon last week, told an Oregon attorney today, Friday March 18 through the upcoming Tuesday, they will be doing another 'mass' amounts of arrests of anyone that was in Bunkerville with a firearm in 2014," she the Nevada Assemblywoman.
Pick up the video around the 9:00 mark for Fiore's comments on this issue and take time to educate yourself with the entire video on the updates she brings as she has really represented her people there in Nevada like no one I've ever seen do.
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Fiore added that she had received a call from someone that had been in Bunkerville with a gun, and according to her, "the FBI stalked him for I guess a few weeks, stalked his house, his 12-year-old daughter was home, pulled up right behind him, and he was polite and he invited them in."
"He was cautious," Fiore added. "But I advise everyone… if the FBI or the police want to question you, absolutely not without your attorney.
"That is wise advice and also a right you have under the US Constitution, which states in part in the Fifth Amendment, "No person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself." Of course, many people want to be friendly, but they are naïve to the workings of how manipulative certain people in authority positions may behave. I'm not saying all of them do, but the fact of the matter is your silence is a right that is protected under the Constitution and you do not have to comply with questioning in such a manner as it could be used against you in a court of law.
Fiore echoes this sentiment. "We don't have a problem with law enforcement, but their intention is to entrap, and their intention is not pure. So I would highly suggest that no one speak with the FBI or the police without your attorney because they do not have good intentions at the moment.
"So, how many people are we talking about in this latest round of arrests? According to Van Tatenhove, "There were hundreds, if not thousands of people there.
"Fiore confirmed that there were over 2,000 people at Bundy Ranch at one time.
However, when are the American people going to stop buying the lies of the state-controlled media and begin to look past the propaganda and see the truth and the violation of the Constitution by the DC government and the Bureau of Land Management? When are they going to see how this is trickling down from DC to the governors, sheriffs and even to local prosecutors? When are their eyes going to be opened and their strength renewed and deal with the criminals in their governments? Will it take a mass round up of arrests based on unlawful, trump up charges, or will the people wait until it's too late and they are the ones being arrested and hauled off to jail, and the propaganda machine rolls right over them defining them as terrorists and criminal?
This is nothing but the heavy hand of government attempting to silence dissent, undermine the First Amendment and the rights of the people to peacefully protest (yes, even with guns on their sides or in their hands... after all, the government had trained snipers lining them up in their sights!), and basically attempt to control the people from speaking out through fear tactics. We cannot let this stand!
Patriots, be vigilant and ready!Finally, for anyone who was at Bundy Ranch and is targeted by these lawless thugs, several top lawyers are providing pro-bono representation for you. All you need to do is download this form and fill it out.
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JFriend interviews.... 30-some mins:
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AUDIO INTERVIEW: Jeanette Finicum Speaks to AFP
March 19, 2016 2 comments
For someone as ‘freethinking’ as you John, I find it interesting that you refuse to at least address the links that I’ve sent that show there are serious questions about Finicum’s supposed death. In part I believe you as many others do NOT grasp how the Mormons ‘think’ and how they are heavily involved in Zionism. I suggest you view ALL of tachyon timewarps videos on youtube and suggest you have him on for an interview. I also suggest you also have one True Ott for an interview as well to understand the role of Mormonism in all of this. Again, see what is hidden in plain sight!
New Leaked Video Lavoy Finicum Head Shot FBI Blew His Brains Out
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Mormonism, Judaism, Satanism, and Red Symphony
Oregon Absolves Itself of Murder of Iconic Rancher
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By John Friend —Oregon State Police officers have been exonerated in the shooting death of Robert “LaVoy” Finicum, the iconic Arizona rancher who served as a leading spokesman for the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge that took place earlier this year in southeastern Oregon, an event AMERICAN FREE PRESS has covered extensively in recent issues.Finicum, a close friend of the Bundy ranching family who were also heavily involved with the Oregon standoff, was shot and killed on January 26 after being stopped by Oregon State Police and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) officials.According to the results of the investigation carried out by Oregon officials, Oregon State Police were justified in using lethal action against Finicum. However, an FBI agent is suspected of firing shots at Finicum and then lying about it in the aftermath. Other FBI officials are alleged to have assisted in the cover-up of the incident, and the Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into the shooting and subsequent cover-up.Oregon State Police officials released a synchronized video including aerial footage of Finicum’s death originally captured and published online by the FBI combined with video and audio footage captured by Shawna Cox, who was in the vehicle with Finicum during the standoff with law enforcement officials. In the video, Finicum informs Oregon State Police officers and others present that he intends to meet with the sheriff of Grant County, where he and his entourage were traveling that fateful day, and that law enforcement officials are welcome to join him. Finicum makes clear that he is not surrendering to the Oregon State Police or FBI officials, and that they have the option of either shooting him or letting him continue to his destination.Watch the entire video below:
Finicum’s family strongly disputes the narrative being articulated by officials from the State of Oregon.“Our family asserts that he was shot with both hands up,” Jeanette Finicum, LaVoy’s wife, stated shortly after the results of the official investigation were released. “He was not reaching for anything at the time of the first shot. He was walking with his hands in the air, a symbol of surrender.”
What follows is the official Finicum family statement released on March 9, 2016.NEWS RELEASEEMBARGOED UNTIL 11:30 AM MST, Wednesday, March 9, 2016Contact: Cherilyn Bacon Eagar for the LaVoy Finicum family
Cell: 801-592-4245
Email: Cherilyn@CherilynEagar.comJEANETTE FINICUM STATEMENT—AFTER REVIEW OF YESTERDAY’S OREGON INVESTIGATIVE REPORTMrs. Finicum will take initial questions for the first time today from media in an 11:30 AM MST news conference at the Washington County Building 197 E. Tabernacle Street St. George, Utah related specifically to the civil and criminal lawsuits she and her legal team are pursuing.March 9, 2016, St. George, UT—Yesterday a tag-team of law enforcement officials announced they have found that the Oregon officer who shot my husband dead while he had his hands in the air was justified. These officials announced that “without a doubt” the officer who killed my husband did so “to protect” himself and his fellow officers “from imminent harm.”I know my husband, Robert LaVoy Finicum, and I knew him on the day he died. With his hands in the air, he was no danger to anyone, he intended no “imminent harm.” He was giving himself up in order to divert shooters from the others in the truck. Right down to the very last act of his life, he was giving for others. That was my husband. That was the man who the panel of investigators concluded was “responsible for” the situation in which he was killed in a well-planned ambush.My family and I reject the biased, whitewash findings and conclusion reported yesterday. My lawyers have assured me that the men who ambushed my husband, who set him up for death, who assassinated him, will face justice in a court before an unbiased jury that will be deciding whether my husband was killed by a wrongful action or omission on the part of the police. That action will be joined with an action based on violation of the due process clause of the United States Constitution, the very document for which my husband gave his life. That is a Civil Rights Act claim.Emigrate While You Still Can! Learn More . . .
Prior to yesterday the FBI held the position that my husband was shot during a “traffic stop.” That was such a stretch of the truth that even the tag-team news conference group could not repeat it. There was no “traffic stop.” This was an ambush by use of a “Deadman’s Blockade” designed to allow a “Kill Stop”—a roadblock on a blind curve on an almost abandoned road.Those officers at the roadblock were the last line available to block the truck LaVoy drove, to assure that he was killed. In our wrongful death and civil rights violation lawsuit we will prove the kind of man my husband was, and that as a leading spokesman of this movement to restore the U.S. Constitution and our unalienable rights, he had to be made an example: “Don’t interfere if we as law officers are depriving someone of their rights, property and person.” Is this what Americans believe? Or is this the kind of fear tactic despots in the Middle East have used for centuries when they place crucifixes along the highway to strike fear into their slaves—don’t you dare oppose our unjust laws or this is what will happen to you!”I don’t think so. Not in America. I still believe we are governed by the same Constitution that our founders created and that we are a republic, one nation under God.Yesterday, as before, the officers set up a false scenario that my husband was reaching for a loaded gun as he was shot. Before yesterday’s selectively edited video showing, we saw the uncut version. In that uncut version, we see my husband with his hands up, walking away from the truck and not reaching for anything when a man to the right of the video obviously fired some projectile at him. Immediately he leaned over to his left hip area where it appeared some projectile hit him. At that one moment, shots were reigned down on him and he died there in the snow bank—where he lay for ten minutes without anyone checking to see whether he was alive. They let him lay there because they knew that the three shots into the back had killed him.
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March 11, 2016 A_F_P 4 CommentsQuote:
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By John Friend —Oregon State Police officers have been exonerated in the shooting death of Robert “LaVoy” Finicum, the iconic Arizona rancher who served as a leading spokesman for the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge that took place earlier this year in southeastern Oregon, an event AMERICAN FREE PRESS has covered extensively in recent issues.
Finicum, a close friend of the Bundy ranching family who were also heavily involved with the Oregon standoff, was shot and killed on January 26 after being stopped by Oregon State Police and Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) officials.
According to the results of the investigation carried out by Oregon officials, Oregon State Police were justified in using lethal action against Finicum. However, an FBI agent is suspected of firing shots at Finicum and then lying about it in the aftermath. Other FBI officials are alleged to have assisted in the cover-up of the incident, and the Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into the shooting and subsequent cover-up.
Oregon State Police officials released a synchronized video including aerial footage of Finicum’s death originally captured and published online by the FBI combined with video and audio footage captured by Shawna Cox, who was in the vehicle with Finicum during the standoff with law enforcement officials. In the video, Finicum informs Oregon State Police officers and others present that he intends to meet with the sheriff of Grant County, where he and his entourage were traveling that fateful day, and that law enforcement officials are welcome to join him. Finicum makes clear that he is not surrendering to the Oregon State Police or FBI officials, and that they have the option of either shooting him or letting him continue to his destination.
Watch the entire video below:
http://youtu.be/qqYIQ-TxuSs
Finicum’s family strongly disputes the narrative being articulated by officials from the State of Oregon.“Our family asserts that he was shot with both hands up,” Jeanette Finicum, LaVoy’s wife, stated shortly after the results of the official investigation were released. “He was not reaching for anything at the time of the first shot. He was walking with his hands in the air, a symbol of surrender.”
What follows is the official Finicum family statement released on March 9, 2016.
NEWS RELEASEEMBARGOED UNTIL 11:30 AM MST, Wednesday, March 9, 2016Contact: Cherilyn Bacon Eagar for the LaVoy Finicum family
Cell: 801-592-4245
Email: Cherilyn@CherilynEagar.com
Jeanette Finicum STATEMENT—AFTER REVIEW OF YESTERDAY’S OREGON INVESTIGATIVE REPORT
Mrs. Finicum will take initial questions for the first time today from media in an 11:30 AM MST news conference at the Washington County Building 197 E. Tabernacle Street St. George, Utah related specifically to the civil and criminal lawsuits she and her legal team are pursuing.
March 9, 2016, St. George, UT—Yesterday a tag-team of law enforcement officials announced they have found that the Oregon officer who shot my husband dead while he had his hands in the air was justified. These officials announced that “without a doubt” the officer who killed my husband did so “to protect” himself and his fellow officers “from imminent harm.”
I know my husband, Robert LaVoy Finicum, and I knew him on the day he died. With his hands in the air, he was no danger to anyone, he intended no “imminent harm.” He was giving himself up in order to divert shooters from the others in the truck. Right down to the very last act of his life, he was giving for others. That was my husband. That was the man who the panel of investigators concluded was “responsible for” the situation in which he was killed in a well-planned ambush.
My family and I reject the biased, whitewash findings and conclusion reported yesterday. My lawyers have assured me that the men who ambushed my husband, who set him up for death, who assassinated him, will face justice in a court before an unbiased jury that will be deciding whether my husband was killed by a wrongful action or omission on the part of the police. That action will be joined with an action based on violation of the due process clause of the United States Constitution, the very document for which my husband gave his life. That is a Civil Rights Act claim.
Emigrate While You Still Can! Learn More . . .
Prior to yesterday the FBI held the position that my husband was shot during a “traffic stop.” That was such a stretch of the truth that even the tag-team news conference group could not repeat it. There was no “traffic stop.” This was an ambush by use of a “Deadman’s Blockade” designed to allow a “Kill Stop”—a roadblock on a blind curve on an almost abandoned road.
Those officers at the roadblock were the last line available to block the truck LaVoy drove, to assure that he was killed. In our wrongful death and civil rights violation lawsuit we will prove the kind of man my husband was, and that as a leading spokesman of this movement to restore the U.S. Constitution and our unalienable rights, he had to be made an example: “Don’t interfere if we as law officers are depriving someone of their rights, property and person.” Is this what Americans believe? Or is this the kind of fear tactic despots in the Middle East have used for centuries when they place crucifixes along the highway to strike fear into their slaves—don’t you dare oppose our unjust laws or this is what will happen to you!
”I don’t think so. Not in America. I still believe we are governed by the same Constitution that our founders created and that we are a republic, one nation under God.
Yesterday, as before, the officers set up a false scenario that my husband was reaching for a loaded gun as he was shot. Before yesterday’s selectively edited video showing, we saw the uncut version. In that uncut version, we see my husband with his hands up, walking away from the truck and not reaching for anything when a man to the right of the video obviously fired some projectile at him. Immediately he leaned over to his left hip area where it appeared some projectile hit him. At that one moment, shots were reigned down on him and he died there in the snow bank—where he lay for ten minutes without anyone checking to see whether he was alive. They let him lay there because they knew that the three shots into the back had killed him.
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Your fine f*cking federal government is arresting the youngest Bundy son for carrying the American flag at the Bundy Ranch standoff
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John B. Wells, Caravan to Midnight with all the Bundy women
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you just cant make the shit of like this . country about done ...Quote:
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Carol Bundy has a message for Harry Reid
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Pete Santili on the phone from Henderson, Nevada jail
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Jim Lambley interviews Brianna Bundy on Twister Radio
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Jim Lambley interview with Michele Fiore
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Harry Reid's handpicked judge . . . . . .
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Jerry DeLemus, Trump staffer from New Hampshire phone call from Henderson, Nevada jail
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From the facebook of Staff Sgt. "Moe" Maureen Peltier . . . . . .
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Re-Post Arnold Law : CROWDSOURCING ALERT! We need witnesses to any killing of cattle during the 2014 impound roundup, including witnesses to gunshots from helicopters or to hiding or destroying evidence of the killing (i.e., DIGGING of mass graves as well as uncovering the mass graves).
In particular we are also looking for government whistleblowers or witnesses to statements by government officials regarding their intent, motive, and circumstances of the impound round-up and goals in stopping or limiting free speech during the Bunkerville/Bundy Ranch protest.
It is our understanding from reading the Impound Order of the court, the Government was only authorized to seize and impound, not to kill. Here's a quote from the July 9, 2013 order:
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that Bundy shall remove his livestock from the New Trespass Lands within 45 days of the date hereof, and that the United States is entitled to seize and remove to impound any of Bundy’s cattle that remain in trespass after 45 days of the date hereof.
IT IS FURTHER ORDERED that the United States is entitled to seize and remove to impound any of Bundy’s cattle for any future trespasses, provided the United States has provided notice to Bundy under the governing regulations of the United States Department of the Interior. http://snip.ly/impound-order/…
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Brianna Bundy with a court report on Twister Radio.
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The Oath with SSG Moe
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Let's set the record straight, Cliven Bundy is not racist!
This man is spot on!
The media trying to divide us!!
Short and to the point, 3 minute video...
Thank you sir for speaking the truth!
United we stand!!
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*****Link to visit at Bunkerville visit******
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~Chastity
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Kangaroo court sets trial date. Sabotage at the Bundy ranch.
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Bundy Ranch Defendant’s Attorneys: We Fear Family and Friends of Defendants are being put on Terror Watch List
As more people are arrested in connection with the Bundy Ranch siege in 2014and the Oregon protest that took place earlier this year, attorneys for defendants are concerned that their family members and friends are being put on the terror watch list, a list which has no criteria and is a clear violation of the Fifth Amendment.
In an exclusive interview, Deb Jordan, who is the co-host of the Pete Santilli Show, spoke with us from Nevada where Santilli is incarcerated until May 8 when he is to face a judge there for charges against him.
"The attorneys are concerned that the family members and those close to these guys are being monitored," Jordan said. "Their concern is that they're being put on the terror watch list, monitoring phone calls with attorneys and others."
Back in December, before the events unfolded in Oregon, Santilli and Jordan were held at gun point by Ohio police and were told that Santilli was listed on the terror watch list. Later, Jordan was released, but Santilli faced a gun charged, which was later dropped.
When asked whether or not Jordan was on the terror watch list, she was unaware that she was. However, she does know that some who are connected to the defendants have been.
Jordan left Ohio to visit Santilli in Vegas until his court date, at which point he will likely be transported back to Oregon, just as the Bundy men were earlier this week. She traveled by train, so her ID was not even checked.
The issue of the terror watch list has come up before. Barack Hussein Obama has put forward the idea of using it to keep law abiding citizens from purchasing guns using the terror watch list. Yet, he has failed to provide any evidence that he is not violating the Constitution in doing so nor how it would actually stop crime.
Here's just a sample of the Fifth Amendment violations that are the result of the terror watchlist. All of these were found to be on the terror watchlist.
- retired Coast Guard commander
- this prepper
- this eight year old
- this four year old
- this 18-month-old baby
- a presidential candidate
One New York senator even introduced a bill that would actually confiscate guns if your name appeared on the terror watchlist. The problem is that it is a violation of the rights of citizens who have not been convicted of a crime!
Understanding the criminal actions of the federal government, specifically the exposing by Edward Snowden of the National Security Agency and their unconstitutional warrantless surveillance of millions of Americans, the concerns of attorneys in the Bundy Ranch siege and Oregon protest matters are understandable.
Pete Santilli and others are in need of your encouragement and financial help. If you wish to help Pete, you can do so by writing to him at the following address:
Peter T. Santilli
Inmate #0000909461
Henderson Detention Center
P.O. Box 95050
Henderson, NV 89009-5050
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Posted May 2, 2016 - 10:28amGOVERNMENT DEFENDS SECRECY IN BUNDY-BUNKERVILLE CASE
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The Bundy family and their supporters gather together under Interstate 15 just outside of Bunkerville in order to confront the BLM and demand the release of their impounded cattle on April 12, 2014. (Jason Bean/Las Vegas Review-Journal file)
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LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
Federal prosecutors are defending their push for secrecy in the criminal case tied to the 2014 armed standoff with law enforcement near Bunkerville.
In court papers late last week, prosecutors said Bundy family supporters have used social media to threaten, intimidate and harass victims, witnesses and law enforcement officers associated with the case over the past two years.
Prosecutors cited some examples in their papers and argued that a court order is needed to protect the witnesses.
They seek to prohibit defense lawyers from giving copies of critical trial evidence — including sworn search warrant affidavits and FBI investigative reports — to the public and media.
Defense lawyers oppose the government’s effort to keep secret the trial evidence. So do the Las Vegas Review-Journal and Battle Born Media, which publishes weekly newspapers in rural Nevada. The two news organizations have filed court papers to intervene in the case and oppose the order on grounds it is too broad.
Review-Journal lawyer Maggie McLetchie said Monday the government’s refusal to specifically explain which documents would be harmful if made public “completely disregards the First Amendment interests at stake.”
Barry Smith, executive director of the Nevada Press Association, added the government’s “blanket request” seems to have gone too far.
“You don’t want to put people in danger, but there is certainly plenty of information that can be released without identifying people,” Smith said. “At some point, their witnesses are going to have to come forward in court.”
Prosecutors argued in their court papers that the threats — primarily on YouTube, Twitter and Facebook — could influence the outcome of the highly contested criminal proceedings.
Even the four government attorneys prosecuting the case have received mail and other communications containing “language designed and intended to threaten and intimidate,” according to the court papers.
Prosecutors said secrecy also is needed because the investigation into the April 12, 2014, Bunkerville confrontation is ongoing and more people may be charged separately.
The majority of the lawyers for the 19 defendants in the high-profile case, including Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, filed court papers last week opposing the government’s proposed protective order.
Attorney Joel Hansen, who is defending Bundy, argued that the proposed order “is nothing but an attempted cover-up — a gross violation of the people’s right to know what is happening in the case by drastically curtailing the freedom of the press.”
Bundy, 70, and 18 other defendants, all of whom are in federal custody, are facing an array of felony charges, including conspiracy, obstruction, extortion, threats and assault, in the armed showdown.
Contact Jeff German at jgerman@reviewjournal.com or 702-380-8135. Find @JGermanRJ on Twitter.
Preview of soon to come Land/Mineral grab, published April 8
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Harry Reid guilty of "Trading With the Enemy"?
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The Oath with SSG Moe
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Harry Reid vs The Bundy's
We can rely on research, or do it ourselves. This is all public record, compiled in a picture.
http://gisgate.co.clark.nv.us/openweb/
Harry Reid and Title 18 U.S. Code ss953 (aka the Logan Act)
Did Harry Reid collude with the Chinese government or their agents or others to use his office to seize, sell, or otherwise threaten the rights and property of his constituents or those of US taxpayers, including Cliven and Carol Bundy?
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/953
"Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects."
~Chastity
43°49'30.48" N 118°58'20.08" W L-V never forgotten
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From April 2014
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NEVADA RANCHERS FIGHT FEDS FOR SURVIVAL IN CHANGING TIMES
EUREKA
Cliven Bundy might be Nevada’s most well-known rancher now, but he’s not the only one trying to eke out a living on dry, inhospitable rangeland.
Ranching on federal public lands is diminishing, and remaining ranchers in Nevada and throughout the West have become a hardy breed of survivors in changing times. Like the generations of ranchers before them, they deal with disease in cattle, swings in beef prices and drought.
In the past couple of decades, their work and way of life have faced growing threats: increased red tape from the federal government, reductions to their herd sizes and resistance from federal officials who fret about lawsuits from powerful environmentalist groups.
The numbers are telling. Nevada has 797 grazing allotments for ranching on 43 million acres of public lands overseen by the Bureau of Land Management. The BLM has given 2 million animal-unit months, or AUMs, to Nevada ranchers. One AUM allows a head of cattle, or a cow and its calf, to graze for one month on public lands.
But permitted grazing has dropped dramatically on public lands in Nevada and elsewhere. In 1954, ranchers in the West had 18.2 million AUMs from the BLM. The figure is now less than half that: 7.9 million.
The ranchers feel squeezed. And while they pay their grazing fees and the nonranching public considers Bundy an extremist, the ranchers also sympathize with Bundy, a fellow cattleman who has said “enough.”
Bundy quit paying grazing fees to the BLM in 1993 in a dispute over range restrictions for the desert tortoise that limited his grazing activity on public lands near Bunkerville. This conflict widened when the agency started rounding up his cattle, before prematurely calling off the effort. It culminated April 12 with a standoff between armed federal agents and protesters, including armed militia members, who backed Bundy.
Still, the ranchers see him as more of a victim of a changing tide of the same forces they contend with and less of a deadbeat that his critics paint him to be.
CHANGING RANGE
Ranching in Nevada is often passed down from generation to generation. Some ranches have more than 100 years of history behind them. The demands of the job — from working cows in the early hours of the morning, to toiling in all climates, to living in remote areas — still make ranching more of a way of life than a 9-to-5 job, even as the world around cattlemen has changed.
Several decades ago, ranchers had a simpler relationship with the BLM. The agency focused more on traditional land uses such as grazing and mining instead of preservation of land and species.
In Eureka County, ranchers in their 60s remember from their boyhood days when BLM staff and cattlemen were friendly enough to ride out together on roundups.
But hopes of passing his ranch down to the next generation might be difficult to realize for Kevin Borba. A 48-year-old from California, Borba bought a $1.5 million ranch in Eureka County in 2012, only to have his grazing permit reduced on an allotment. Instead of 415 head of cattle, it has dropped to 140.
“We’ll be out of business,” Borba said. “It will just be the end of it.”
He has hired an attorney to fight the change, but absent a victory, it would mean the bitter end of a Nevada dream.
Borba is no Cliven Bundy, but he supports Bundy and understands where the Bunkerville rancher is coming from.
Bundy’s conflict was sparked when the BLM tried to limit grazing activity and keep his herd size down as part of restrictions to protect to the desert tortoise. Instead of agreeing, he quit paying fees and kept several hundred cows on his allotment.
Nor are they alone.
Jim Baumann, 69, a Eureka County rancher, has a herd size of about 160. It was once about 300 and is down some because of BLM restrictions and some because of the drought.
He points to a variety of factors that make ranching more difficult. If a rancher wants to put in a water pipe, $30,000 for an environmental assessment is needed first, he said.
That’s enough to stop a project in its tracks, Baumann said.
Also, movements of cattle are restricted, forcing ranchers to feed hay to cattle and eat at profits in months when cattle may have grazed the range in years past.
“They’re just squeezing us on all sides, really,” he said.
Baumann said persuading BLM officials to see ranchers’ arguments — even when supported by data — is difficult if not impossible.
“Mostly, they like to just regulate us all out of business, and that’s what they’re working on,” he said.
Driving his truck through his allotment with a Review-Journal reporter and photographer, Baumann acknowledged that the lands could one day have even fewer cattle.
His way of life on Nevada’s range might well become a thing of the past.
“It’s heading that way,” he said. “It could be that very little public land grazing will ever happen; and if you have to go private, there won’t be very many cows left.”
STATE MANAGEMENT
Ranchers long for a day when their livelihood doesn’t rest in the hands of a federal agency. To that end, the Nevada Public Land Management Task Force could play a role in finding a long-term answer.
The task force, created by the 2013 Legislature to examine the workability of the state taking control of some federal land in Nevada, would like to start with some 4 million acres, much of it along the original railroad corridor that crosses Northern Nevada.
That’s less than 10 percent of Nevada’s public lands, and even that would take an act of Congress.
For now, the task force will craft state legislation that the Legislature can consider as a way to make a statement to Congress, said J.J. Goicoechea, a Eureka County commissioner and rancher who sits on the task force.
Goicoechea stressed the goal isn’t for Nevada to get all its lands under state management quickly. It’s a job that will take decades to accomplish.
“If, by the time my young daughters are my age, we’ve got half of these federal lands under state control, I’ll be happy,” the 40-year-old rancher said. “We can’t do this overnight.”
The ramifications of such an effort would extend beyond ranchers. There are federal lands marked for solar and geothermal development, and the task force’s study estimates the initial 4 million acres would generate $31 million to $114 million in revenue a year to the state from the sales and lease of the lands’ resources, including mining and grazing.
That’s the biggest boon, he said, and the money would go to schools and aid future generations.
In general, ranchers say they support the prospect of state management, saying it would be better to deal with government officials who answer to an agency headquartered in Carson City than in Washington, D.C.
But it wouldn’t guarantee an easy ride. Now, for example, a rancher pays the BLM $1.35 an animal-unit a month for grazing on public lands.
Under state management, those costs could increase several times beyond that. Goicoechea said that prospect gives some ranchers mixed feelings about the idea.
The task force isn’t trying to put every parcel of federal land under state control. For example, it is not pursuing Bureau of Indian Affairs lands or national parks.
Environmental groups are critical of the idea. Rob Mrowka, a senior biologist with the Center for Biological Diversity, said his organization would generally be opposed to the proposal.
Federal public lands are a “national treasure that’s an envy of people around the world,” he said. As such, it’s important that the lands not be exploited by a few for profit, he said.
Mrowka disagrees with the contention that the BLM is a distantly operated agency that makes decisions from Washington, D.C. The agency is decentralized with district and field offices that operate with locals, he said.
At the same time, problems with the BLM — which is known for being withdrawn — and the need to fix those problems shouldn’t be confused with the debate for state management, he said.
RANCHING STRUGGLES
Cattle is still a big business in Nevada, but it’s not a growing business.
The state’s inventory of cattle and calves stands at 455,000 head, according to the Nevada Department of Agriculture figures. That’s down from a historical high of 700,000 in 1982, according to state data.
Earlier years were kinder for cattlemen in Nevada and throughout the United States. Fueled by the high demand for meat to feed the fighting GIs in World War II, the state’s cattle industry kicked into high gear. Nevada’s cattle inventory grew from 395,000 in 1941 to 485,000 in 1945.
Some of the drop can be attributed to increased regulations, including the drop in animals allowed on public lands, said Flint Wright, the animal industry administrator for the Nevada Department of Agriculture. Without the regulations, the state could have an inventory of 500,000 cattle, he said, adding that there’s a concern in the industry the count will continue to drop.
The allotment system doesn’t simply give a rancher free rein to run cows at will. The system allows the BLM to cut back on the herd size and dictate when cattle can and cannot be on the range.
Allotments can be sold from one rancher to another, with property attached. As such, ranches in Nevada and much of the West are often small in deeded acreage that the rancher owns — that land is used as a home base near BLM land where grazing is allowed.
If a rancher wants to improve the public land, be it a fence or water line for thirsty cows, an environmental assessment and permit are needed. The process can take years as federal officials decide if it will harm the threatened sage-grouse and desert tortoise or whatever other critters might be nearby.
Disagreement about when to let cows on the range might force a rancher to feed them hay, adding thousands of dollars to costs.
“We look at a very long-term strategy of keeping the resources protected,” said Erika Szlosek, a BLM spokeswoman. “A lot of times that can bring challenges for people who are trying to make a living and looking at the situation in a more short-term fashion.”
She said the agency’s time to get permits approved and complete environmental studies is driven by limited staffing and funding.
Goicoechea and other ranchers point out that they rely on the range for their livelihood year after year and in many cases have for generations. So ranchers get a little testy if a BLM official keeps them away from a range and they think it’s ready for cows.
“We need that flexibility,” the fourth-generation rancher said. “I’m sorry. Nobody knows better than us — not some kid that went to school that came out with a range specialist degree.”
‘WORTH IT’
As for Bundy, he is far from a pariah in the ranching world. Environmentalists have painted him as a freeloader who didn’t pay his grazing fees or follow the rules like other ranchers have done.
But ranchers who do pay fees say his case is complicated. Bundy quit paying after the BLM’s range restrictions in 1993 to protect the desert tortoise would have limited grazing activity and cut his herd size too small to make a decent living.
Goicoechea said he sympathizes with Bundy, noting his herd size was reduced and ranching has become all but extinct in Clark County.
But, he added, “He was not paying grazing fees. We really can’t allow that either. That needs to be played out in the court system.”
As for Borba, he is rooting for Bundy. But with the work of his ranch keeping him in Eureka, he doesn’t have time to make the trek to Bunkerville.
“I’m all for that guy, and I wish I didn’t have to be here, because I’d be there helping him. And the whole deal is they might end up putting that man out of business, putting me out of business. But if it saves one rancher who wants to ranch, it’s worth it.”
Contact Ben Botkin at bbotkin@reviewjournal.com or 702-387-2904. Find him on Twitter @BenBotkin1.
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Kevin Borba vs BLM
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Nevada is screwed up. No doubt about it. Look at their constitution. Their territory STARTS in Washington. Thence 42 degrees west longitude. Things don't stray from their points of beginning.
Best you can do is scrap the entire concept and start from scratch. You have no other choice.
Mustangs managed by the Bureau of Land Management near Borba's Fish Creek ranch. I used to see the same thing on the Tonopah Test Range when I was trucking out there. The horses were traveling so far to feed from the water holes they were so sore footed they could hardly walk. Thanks Wild Horse Annie!
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Cliven Bundy suing Obama, Reid, Reids son Rory, Judge Gloria Navarro, . . . . . . .
Cliven Bundy suing Obama, Nevada officials
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Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who led an armed standoff over grazing fees on federal lands, is suing President Obama and Nevada officials in hopes of getting charges against him dismissed.[/COLOR]
Bundy’s lawyer will file the complaint Tuesday against Obama; Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.); his son, former Clark County Commission Chairman Rory Reid; and U.S. District Court Judge Gloria Navarro.
It alleges that they violated several of his constitutional rights and also asks the court to dismiss his indictment and release him from solitary confinement. His legal team will discuss the action Tuesday, following a detention hearing in Las Vegas.
In February, Bundy was arrested in Portland, Ore., on his way to the wildlife refuge occupation led by his two sons.
His arrest was part of escalated efforts by the FBI to end the 41-day occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in rural Burns, Ore., about a six-hour drive from Portland in the eastern part of the state.
Bundy came to national attention after drawing scores of armed militiamen to Nevada to ward off federal authorities after a fight over grazing fees.
Bundy has for years grazed cattle on land owned by the Bureau of Land Management, racking up more than $1 million in unpaid grazing fees, fines and related costs. He refuses to recognize federal authority over the land.
Harry Reid's hand picked judge Gloria Navarro denies Pete Santilli bail.
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Update on Cliven Bundy lawsuit aganst Reid, Navarro . . . .
Cliven Bundy sues Obama, Reid and federal judge over criminal case
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Cliven Bundy says he is filing a lawsuit on Tuesday, May 11, 2016, against President Barack Obama, U.S. Sen. Harry Reid and the federal judge presiding over his criminal case. (David Becker/Las Vegas Review-Journal)
Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy filed a lawsuit Tuesday against President Barack Obama, U.S. Sen. Harry Reid and the federal judge presiding over his criminal case alleging they violated his constitutional rights to a speedy trial and attorney of his choice.
The federal lawsuit seeks to remove Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro from the case, an order allowing Washington, D.C., lawyer Larry Klayman to join Bundy’s defense team and more than $50 million in damages. The suit also seeks Bundy’s release from federal custody.
“In short, defendant Navarro has shown her true intentions and bias and prejudice, rising to the level of denying Sixth Amendment right of counsel and to a speedy trial to plaintiff Bundy, following the ‘marching orders’ of her benefactors, defendants Harry Reid and Obama,” attorney Joel Hansen alleges in the complaint.
Reid’s son, former Clark County Commissioner Rory Reid, also was named as a defendant.
The lawsuit, which has been in the making the past two weeks, was filed as Navarro held a hearing Tuesday on Bundy’s latest bid to win his freedom while facing felony charges in the April 12, 2014, armed standoff with law enforcement near his Bunkerville ranch.
Hansen referred to the suit and its allegations at the hearing and sought Navarro’s disqualification from the case. Navarro gave Hansen time to file a motion asking for her removal and said she would reveal her decision on May 25 after federal prosecutors have a chance to respond.
The judge heard arguments on Bundy’s release but put off a decision until she decides whether to remain on the case.
Hansen told Navarro that Bundy, who doesn’t recognize the BLM’s ownership of Nevada land, was charged in the criminal case because of “misuse of power” by Reid, a Nevada Democrat, and Obama.
“He (Bundy) hasn’t agreed with the politics of the day,” Hansen argued. “He said some things that are politically incorrect.”
Hansen again described Bundy, whom he said is in solitary confinement 23 hours a day, as a political prisoner like the late South African leader and civil rights activist, Nelson Mandela.
Reid could not immediately be reached for comment.
But First Assistant U.S. Attorney Steven Myhre, the lead prosecutor in the Bundy case, called Hansen’s political allegations “offensive” and “outrageous.”
Myhre argued that Bundy was charged because of his leading role in the conspiracy to assault BLM officers in April 2014 while they were trying to round up his cattle that were grazing on federal land.
Bundy’s lawsuit attacks Navarro for refusing to allow Klayman into the high-profile case until he can give her proof that “ethical disciplinary proceedings” against him in Washington, D.C., have been resolved in his favor.
Klayman, the founder of the Washington-based public interest groups Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, is known for his tenacious pursuit of litigation, mostly in support of a wide range of conservative and libertarian issues.
His troubles with the Washington bar stemmed from three separate alleged conflicts of interest in litigation involving Judicial Watch after he left the organization as its legal counsel, according to court documents.
Last month, Klayman blasted Navarro’s decision.
“The ruling demonstrates that the judge has an extra-judicial bias and prejudice against Cliven Bundy and his counsel, for which disqualification is required,” Klayman told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. “
The judge was recommended by Harry Reid and appointed by President Barack Obama, and the order wears her political allegiance on her sleeve.”
On the floor of the Senate last month, Reid called Bundy an “outrageous lawbreaker” who deserves to be in federal custody.
In the lawsuit, Hansen alleges that the Reids and Obama made public disparaging comments about Bundy and his family as part of an “under-the-table negotiated deal” to seize the Bundy ranch and sell its assets.
Obama mocked Bundy at a White House correspondents’ dinner in Washington after the 2014 Bunkerville standoff, the lawsuit alleges.
The complaint refers to numerous anti-Bundy remarks by Harry Reid reported in the Las Vegas Review-Journal during and after the Bunkerville confrontation.
This is a developing story. Check back for updates.
Contact Jeff German at jgerman@reviewjournal.com or 702-380-8135. Find @JGermanRJ on Twitter.
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Press conference to follow detention hearing at 10:00 a.m. in Las Vegas federal court (held on court house steps)
Cliven Bundy Sues Federal Judge Gloria Navarro, Senator Harry Reid, Rory Reid And President Obama For Violating His Constitutional Rights
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Asks For Dismissal Of Indictment And Release From Solitary Confinement
(Las Vegas, Nevada, May 10, 2016). Today, Cliven Bundy filed a complaint against U.S. District Court Judge Gloria Navarro, U.S. Senator Harry Reid, the son of Harry Reid, Rory Reid and President Barack Obama for allegedly violating his Sixth Amendment Right to Counsel and For Speedy Trial, Eighth Amendment Right Against Cruel and Unusual Punishment (Mr. Bundy is currently being held in solitary confinement), Second Amendment Right to Bear Arms in Self-Defense, and First Amendment Right to Assemble in Self-Defense. The complaint can be found at www.larryklayman.com.
The complaint asks the Court to dismiss the indictment against Cliven Bundy and release him from prison and solitary confinement.
Cliven Bundy's attorneys will discuss the complaint following the hearing at 10:00 a.m. on the courthouse steps.
For more information, contact daj142182@gmail.com or (424) 274 2579.
View complaint:
http://www.larryklayman.com/pdf/1605...arro%20(1).pdf
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More from Deborah Jordan, Pete Santilli's co-host, on Cliven Bundy's hearing today . . . . . .
The Oath with SSG Moe
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Update from Deb:
TODAY'S BIG NEWS -- CLIVEN BUNDY'S ATTORNEY RESPECTFULLY ASK JUDGE GLORIA NAVARRO TO RECUSE HERSELF FROM CASE-
With confidence, Joel Hansen, Attorney for Cliven Bundy, asked Judge Navarro to recuse herself from the Bundy case on the grounds that because of a lawsuit filed against her, Harry Reid and Barack Obama early this morning, she has now been put in a position of direct conflict of interest. Mr. Hansen also pointed out that he believes the fact that she was directly appointed to the bench by President Barack Obama by the suggestion of Harry Reid also creates a clear conflict of interest.
The federal lawsuit seeks to remove Chief U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro from the case, an order allowing Washington, D.C., lawyer Larry Klayman to join Bundy’s defense team and more than $50 million in damages. The suit also seeks Bundy’s release from federal custody.
Mr. Hansen gave us all a little peek into what the future theme of his case will be -- Accusation by the defense that Harry Reid played a major role in what happened in Bunkerville in 2014 creates an immediate conflict of interest when it comes to Judge Navarro's ability to oversee this case without bias.
Mr. Hansen also eluded to her possibly being assigned to this case directly by Harry Reid himself.
Finally this Judge finds herself having to defend her position as puppet judge for Harry Reid and the United States Government.
“In short, defendant Navarro has shown her true intentions and bias and prejudice, rising to the level of denying Sixth Amendment right of counsel and to a speedy trial to plaintiff Bundy, following the ‘marching orders’ of her benefactors, defendants Harry Reid and Obama,” attorney Joel Hansen alleges in the complaint.
Key points made by the the defense left Prosecutor Steven Myre at a loss for words -- He was pleading with the judge for her ruling today over whether Mr. Bundy should stay in prison until his hearing which is said to be as far away as February or March of 2017 .. she refused his demand and set a May 25th date to give her ruling -- A ruling that may never come if she recuses herself from this case.
When Myre suggested that it was ridiculous to assume she should recuse herself because she was appointed by Harry Reid and that all Judges are suggested by one politician or the other -- Mr. Hansen answered him by suggesting that maybe it would be wise to appoint a Judge from another STATE who was at the very least not appointed by Harry Reid.
The People agree.
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Page 9 and ten of Cliven Bundy's lawsuit against Obama, Harry Reid, Rory Reid, Gloria Navarro
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- It is widely known that Klayman is Arpaio’s lawyer as this has been widely reported in themedia both domestically and internationally, and he too by virtue of his representation ofArpaio has been falsely accused of being anti-Latino, even though he represented the LatinoRepublicans of Arizona in litigation of SB-1070, which was a state immigration bill thatresulted in litigation all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court and was intended to allow lawenforcement to more easily take action against illegal immigrants in Maricopa County andelsewhere in Arizona.
- Sheriff Arpaio, Klayman’s client, supported SB-1070.
- Again, in the United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary Questionnaire for Judicial
Nominees, Defendant Navarro stated with regard to “Potential Conflicts of Interest” that“My husband is a Chief Deputy District Attorney for Clark County. Although he does notpractice in federal court, individuals who he has prosecuted or may in the future prosecutemay be or become party or petitioner in a federal court case. If I am confirmed as a judge, Iexpect to recuse from any case where my husband has prosecuted a party or petitioner.”Defendant Navarro concluded by stating “If confirmed as a judge, I will handle all mattersinvolving actual or potential conflicts of interest.” As set forth above Defendant HARRYREID, acting in concert with the other Defendants, asked the District Attorney for ClarkCounty to also prosecute Plaintiff BUNDY and his family, and presumably this request isstill pending. Contrary the representations she made to the Senate Judiciary Committeeduring her confirmation process, Defendant NAVARRO has not recused herself.
- Following the arrest and indictment of Plaintiff BUNDY, in order to telegraph to andinstruct Defendant Navarro his desire not to see Bundy released from solitary confinementin prison, convicted and otherwise bankrupted and otherwise harmed such that DefendantsHARRY and RORY REID could obtain and sell the Bundy’s land for their own profit or
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kickbacks, as both are highly corrupt, Defendant HARRY REID had publicly published inthe Las Vegas Review Journal and other media as a means to communicate and instructDefendant NAVARRO on how to proceed against Defendant BUNDY and to poison anyjury pool at trial.
By JEFF GERMAN
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
With the “outrageous lawbreaker” Cliven Bundy and four of his sons in custody, U.S.Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada took to the Senate floor Thursday to renew his push topreserve the scenic Gold Butte area northeast of Las Vegas.
Reid proposed a congressional bill in 2013 to create a national conservation area at GoldButte, a region of rugged mountains, sandstone ridges and Native Americanpetroglyphs.
But the bill has stalled, and the Democratic leader in his Senate speech accused thedefiant Bundy family of blocking daily efforts by federal officers to protect the land.
“Because of trouble caused by the Bundys and their pals, the federal employees taskedwith safely guarding these antiquities, were prevented from doing their jobs,” he said.“These employees have been under constant physical and mental threat for doing whatthe American people have tasked them to do
The senator still has hopes that President Barack Obama will preserve Gold Butte,something he has the power to do under the law. Obama has made such declarations inthe past to protect federal land in Nevada.
Reid also called attention in his speech to the armed takeover of a government wildliferefuge in Oregon earlier this year “by a dangerous group of militants” that includedBundy family members.
“This particular episode of domestic terrorism has roots in Nevada, I’m sorry to say,”Reid told his colleagues. “They were led by the sons of Cliven Bundy. Cliven who, aswe speak, is where he should be — in jail.”
Reid said the Bundy patriarch has been “breaking federal laws for decades,” adding,“I’m disappointed that some of my colleagues supported this outrageous lawbreaker.”
Bundy is in federal custody facing 16 felony charges stemming from the April 12, 2014,armed standoff with law enforcement near his Bunkerville ranch, which is part of theGold Butte area.
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Message from Shelly Shelton, State Asemblywoman from Nevada:
What we are seeing today is the fulfillment of predictions made by the founding fathers.
I'd like to discuss a few here. The founding fathers set boundaries for the federal government in the text of the constitution.
They ensured that the right to free speech was memorialized in the first amendment. This cherished right has always been hated and despised by those who wish to keep the people in a state of ignorance and obedience. We clearly saw this in full effect as politicians and law enforcers did everything they could to stop Ammon Bundy from spreading the knowledge of constitutional boundaries to townspeople in and around Burns Oregon. That knowledge was referred to as a "virus". This is exactly what the founding fathers expected would happen.
The founders ensured the right to peaceably assemble.
Throughout history citizens have been armed for their own safety during protests, some openly, some concealed. Americans do not give up the right of self protection when they pick up a protest sign. This was ensured by the second amendment which is equal in importance to the first. The idea that citizens can only protest while unarmed is a modern one that flies in the face of everything the founders stood for.
Peaceably means without conflict or violence. There is nothing violent about holding a sign, nor holding a firearm. Violence occurs then those objects are used to harm others. It is not violent to invite townspeople to stop by and join. It is not violent to meet with and shake hands with Law Enforcement.
The protesters from Oregon to Bunkerville facing charges are illustrations of just how far we have let our country go in the wrong direction.
Their free speech has been changed to "conspiracy" and "assault" on an officer.
Their right to bear arms has been changed to "use of a firearm" when committing a "crime".
Their right to assemble has been changed to some sort of interstate crime just because they took their protest outside the boundaries of their home state.
This is what happens when government does exactly what the founders predicted.
When the boundaries of the constitution are not respected, and those in government who overstep those boundaries are not removed from their position and punished, we end up with exactly the broken government and society they warned us about.
Assemblywoman Shelly Shelton, District 10 Nevada.
http://www.rancherlivesmatter.com
BLM Special Agent Dan Love
PUBLIC LANDS:
The Bundy witness BLM won't talk about
Phil Taylor, E&E reporter
Greenwire: Wednesday, May 11, 2016Correction appended.
As federal prosecutors seek to convict Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy for his role in a near-violent standoff two years ago with the Bureau of Land Management, they'll likely turn to a brawny special agent named Dan Love.
With his Oakley shades, armored vest and ball cap turned backward, Love in 2014 stood feet from hundreds of protesters -- many brandishing guns -- who were poised to storm BLM's cattle corrals about 7 miles from Bundy's private ranch northeast of Las Vegas.
Testimony from Love, with his eye-level view of the standoff, could be key to the government's successful prosecution of Bundy; his sons Ammon, Ryan, Mel and Dave; and other alleged standoff leaders including Ryan Payne and Pete Santilli.
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Dan Love. Photo by BLM Nevada, courtesy of Flickr.
Cliven Bundy, 70, orchestrated the "massive armed assault" against Love and his fellow officers in 2014, prosecutors said, to threaten them into abandoning the roughly 400 cattle BLM had rounded up from public lands. The men face charges that could put them behind bars for decades.
Love, who has been described as muscular, tall and quick-witted, is both loved and reviled in Nevada and Utah, where he's BLM's top cop. He worked for the Federal Air Marshal Service from 2002 to 2006 and has been with BLM for roughly a decade, based in Salt Lake City.
Critics say Love has a massive ego and lacks the gravitas needed to navigate the red-hot politics of federal land management in those states.
Yet allies praise Love for keeping BLM employees, citizens and priceless natural resources safe. His composure and restraint during the April 12, 2014, standoff near Bunkerville may have saved lives, they said.
"He's one of those people you either work well with or you don't like his style," said Pat Irwin, a two-term commissioner of Pershing County, Nev., who worked with Love on BLM's law enforcement during the annual Burning Man festival.
Love has led some of BLM's most challenging law enforcement operations in states where federal authority is often not welcomed.
Love was the lead agent in BLM's two-year, undercover investigation with the FBI nearly a decade ago into illegal Native American artifact trafficking in the Four Corners region that resulted in the arrest of more than two dozen people and the suicide of a well-respected local doctor. In 2008, Love arrested and helped prosecute environmental activist Tim DeChristopher for disrupting a BLM oil and gas lease sale in Salt Lake City that critics said imperiled Arches National Park and the climate.
Love also prodded Burning Man to provide "VIP" accommodations for agency officials during the weeklong festival on public lands in the Black Rock Desert, a request that drew ridicule from Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and national embarrassment for BLM.
Love's credibility and reputation will be key if he's called to the witness stand in the Bundy case. The Justice Department said it plans to call between 30 and 45 witnesses and present more than a terabyte of evidence.
BLM refused to allow Love, his law enforcement superiors or its state directors to comment for this article. Nor would BLM answer basic questions about Love's professional resume -- when he was hired, his age, where he previously worked and his law enforcement qualifications.
Many other former and current officials likewise declined to comment. They include Carlie Christensen and Brett Tolman, former U.S. attorneys for the District of Utah who worked directly with Love during the Blanding artifacts raid; Larry Shackelford, who was special agent in charge before Love and supervised him; former BLM Director Bob Abbey; and former BLM Nevada State Director Amy Lueders, who worked with Love during the Bunkerville incident and is now BLM's New Mexico state director.
BLM's silence in the face of Love's critics is puzzling given the high stakes in the Bundy case and the desire of many BLM employees to see Bundy behind bars.
One former government official familiar with the issue said that Utah's congressional delegation wants Love relocated from his post and that BLM leadership appears amenable to making that happen.
"It's unfortunate that Dan has become something of a political pawn," said the official, who asked not to be named due to the sensitivity of the situation. "There are clearly elements in the agency who would prefer he simply fade away, in part to appease Hill critics."
Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) in March introduced H.R. 4751, a bill to eliminate BLM and Forest Service law enforcement and transfer policing powers on federal lands to local sheriffs. Chaffetz said his constituents want to see a "little more Andy Griffith and a little less Rambo" from BLM law enforcement officers.
He's not a fan of Love.
"There's one common denominator where things have gone wrong: It's Dan Love," Chaffetz said in an interview. "The Department of Interior knows how to solve this problem; thus far, they've decided not to do that."
A Chaffetz spokeswoman declined to elaborate on what that solution is.
Sheriffs in Utah don't like Love, either. They see him as heavy-handed and dismissive of local authority.
Love oversaw BLM's decision in 2012 to allow several contracts with local sheriffs to expire, according to BLM's former Utah State Director Juan Palma. The contracts, which reimburse sheriffs for providing enhanced law enforcement patrols on federal lands, were a bad deal for taxpayers, BLM has said. Local sheriffs saw BLM's decision as retaliation for the state's bid to take over federal lands.
"Dan's lost a lot of trust with the sheriffs, so he's got some hills to climb," Garfield County Sheriff Danny Perkins said.
Yet Love has taken steps to mend relations, Perkins said.
"He is making more of an effort -- how genuine it is, I don't know," Perkins said. "I don't hate Dan Love. In fact, he's kind of comical to be around."
'Not real pleased'
BLM's law enforcement division includes about 195 uniformed rangers who patrol federal lands and write citations for things like illegal off-road driving and target shooting. BLM also employs about 70 special agents, plainclothes officers who specialize in long-term investigations of crimes like theft of paleontological and archaeological resources or illegal marijuana grows. Love is among five special agents in charge who lead the special agents.
Love was a special agent when he joined BLM's investigation of illegal artifacts trading in the Four Corners, which was known as Operation Cerberus Action. By June 2009, Love was the lead BLM case agent for the operation.
He enlisted the help of Ted Gardiner, a 50-year-old recovering alcoholic and dealer of Anasazi artifacts, as a confidential informant. Gardner wore a hidden camera to record deals with southeast Utah residents, spending $335,685 in government money to buy 256 artifacts. On the morning of June 10, 2009, the FBI and BLM simultaneously served search and arrest warrants at a dozen homes and more than two dozen people were arrested.
Two of the defendants later committed suicide, including James Redd, 60, a respected doctor from Blanding who connected a hose from his car's exhaust pipe to asphyxiate himself. Redd's family later sued Love in the U.S. District Court for the District of Utah, alleging he violated Redd's Fourth Amendment rights by using excessive force to "make an example" out of him. Judge Richard Shelby last December dismissed the case after finding Love's conduct reasonable.
Love was named BLM's "agent of the year" for the operation, according to the Los Angeles Times, and was promoted to special agent in charge for Utah and Nevada. Prosecutors and American Indians called Cerberus a success, arguing it recovered truckloads of illegally obtained antiquities, raised awareness of the artifacts trade and deterred future trafficking.
But the raid -- in which 150 agents wearing bulletproof vests searched houses and hauled away suspects in handcuffs and shackles, according to the Deseret News -- sowed deep distrust of BLM law enforcement and local resentment of Love.
"A lot of people in Utah are not real pleased with him," said Senate Finance Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah). "There are some problems that I think have to be ironed out."
Love defended the operation in 2011, telling the Deseret News that "I would be hard-pressed to find any law enforcement officer across the country that when serving an arrest warrant or a search warrant isn't properly geared." The arrests were carried out in unison, officials said, to prevent defendants from fleeing or destroying evidence.
Pat Shea, who served as BLM director during the Clinton administration and is now a Salt Lake City defense attorney, is also among Love's critics. Shea represented DeChristopher, the fraudulent oil and gas bidder whom Love arrested and helped prosecute.
"To be a federal law enforcement officer in 2016 requires the ultimate form of diplomacy," Shea said. "Your first tool is persuasion. The last tool after careful planning is ordering or force."
Bundy standoff
Critics said Love's go-it-alone mentality failed BLM during the Bunkerville impoundment. They blame Love's sour relationship with former Clark County, Nev., Sheriff Doug Gillespie, whose assistance could have lent the operation more legitimacy in the eyes of conservative protesters, many of whom refused to acknowledge BLM's jurisdiction over the lands.
BLM had tried for months to secure a contract with Gillespie and his Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department to assist in crowd control at Gold Butte, but the deal crumbled at the eleventh hour. Gillespie later told the Las Vegas Sun that BLM misled him about the circumstances of the impoundment, an allegation BLM denied.
Love's allies said he was an honest broker with Gillespie but the sheriff betrayed him.
Gillespie declined to comment for this article.
As tensions escalated in Bunkerville -- on April 12, hundreds of Bundy supporters amassed in front of Love and his fellow rangers, with more than 60 brandishing firearms, according to prosecutors -- Love negotiated with Ammon Bundy at the corral gates for a peaceful end to the impoundment.
"In a highly volatile situation with heavily armed antagonists, Love negotiated a peaceful resolution," said Celia Boddington, who was serving as BLM's assistant director for communications at the time and is now retired. "When all is said and done, he was the person most responsible for ensuring that nobody got killed that day. While many are eager to play Monday morning quarterback, history will judge him kindly."
Prosecutors say protesters targeted Love during and after the roundup.
In an indictment, prosecutors said Santilli approached Love on the morning of April 9 and threatened him by asking, "What are you guys going to do if 10,000 people show up? ... Are you prepared for this?"
Santilli that day told Love that BLM law enforcement officers would be arrested and sent to jail, according to a recorded conversation between the two.
"I don't know how you plan on arresting me, but good luck with that," Love said in the recording. "That's not going to end well for you."
Santilli's attorneys last week said that Santilli was acting as a mediator in that conversation and that the tone of the conversation remained "respectful." There were no threats against Love, they said.
In November 2014, Santilli and an unnamed associate left Love a voice message threatening his family, prosecutors wrote in a legal filing last month in the Nevada federal district court.
"You are outnumbered," Santilli said, according to the filing. "My listenership alone, OK, will respond to Bundy Ranch if you go anywhere near it. I need to tell you that ... we don't recognize the BLM. We don't recognize your authority. We will have your guns taken away. We will have you incarcerated."
Santilli was arrested by the FBI on Jan. 26 for his role in the 40-day Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupation. He faces separate charges over that incident in the U.S. District Court for the District of Oregon.
The leaders of the Bunkerville standoff face felony charges of threatening a federal law officer, conspiracy to impede or injure a federal officer, assault on a federal officer and other charges that could put them in prison for decades. A trial is set for next February in the U.S. District Court for the District of Nevada.
Love's allies credit him with drawing a line in the sand against anti-federal-lands activists bent on toppling BLM's control. Conservationists have hammered the Obama administration for backing down in the Bundy roundup and for failing to prosecute past incidents on public lands, which critics say enabled the Malheur takeover.
"He's very passionate about what he does, and perhaps that causes ire with others," said one former BLM law enforcement official who asked not to be named. "There's ego. All cops have egos. If you're going to be in this business, you have to have some."
Burning Man
Burning Man officials can attest to Love's bravado.
On Jan. 10, 2014, Love walked into a BLM meeting with top Burning Man officials at the festival's San Francisco headquarters wearing mirrored sunglasses and a Glock pistol on his hip, according to multiple sources.
"Talk about a passive, peace-loving place," said Mike Ford, a former BLM official who was at the meeting and was consulting for Burning Man organizers at the time. "That heavy, macho, armed attitude, that doesn't serve the agency well."
A year later, a Reno Gazette-Journal investigation revealed BLM -- Love in particular -- had demanded the festival provide enhanced accommodations for agency officials, including flush toilets and access to Choco Tacos, M&Ms, licorice and Chobani Greek yogurt, in exchange for receiving a permit to operate.
BLM later backpedaled on the request and has since removed Love from the role of negotiating Burning Man's permit.
"It's no great secret we've been frustrated with BLM law enforcement in the past," said Burning Man spokesman Jim Graham. "BLM brought in a new management team just before the event in 2015, and we've seen a marked improvement in our working relationships."
Irwin, the Pershing County commissioner, defended Love's work at Burning Man. He called Love a "good interface" who has done "a really good job as an advocate of public safety in Pershing County."
Burning Man annually draws upward of 70,000 revelers to a remote desert playa north of Reno for eccentric and fiery art installations. As festival attendance grows, the number of BLM personnel needed to oversee the event has doubled to 160 over the past five years, BLM told the Associated Press last year. The agency said it is running out of places to house them in nearby Gerlach, Nev.
"When I've got a law enforcement guy working out there on a 12- to 14-hour shift, I want him to have a place where he can relax, rest and rejuvenate," Irwin said. "They need to get some good sleep to be sharp and on top of their game."
BLM and county law enforcement don't come to the event for fun but rather to ensure no one gets hurt, he said.
"I could see where he's coming from," Irwin said of Love. "I can see where taking care of my guys is important."
Reporter Kevin Bogardus contributed.
Correction: An earlier version of this story misstated which committee Sen. Orrin Hatch leads.
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