Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.
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mamboni
No deadline spelled out. But after reading the medical literature, I find the potential side effects acceptable from a riak standpoint - it is exceedingly low. As to the question of taking the flu vaccine - I do not like being told that I have to do anything, especially when it impacts directly on my body. But, I cannot make a defensible case against the vaccine vis-a-vis the evidence. On a practical side, I am a private contractor. If I miss 3 days of work, the cost to me personally is in the thousands of dollars. Balance that against the flu vaccine likely reducing my chance of contracting flu by about half. From a business standpoint, the flu vaccine is a fair hedge against loss. Now there are those in the alternative media who claim that the vaccine has long term detrimental health effects (i.e. damaged immunity, increased risk of Alzheimer's disease etc.). I have investigated the peer-reviewed studies and cannot find the publications to back up these claims. The Cochrane report finds thst flu vaccine has little to no benefit to the population in general. But to the specific question of whether mandatory vaccination of healthcare workers is a net benefit vis-a-vis preventing nosocomial flu there is one paper, only one, that does show significant benefit in preventing infection of patients and reducing worker sick time. So if I try to fight the shot, I standing on empirical quicksand.
...well, at the end of the day each person's circumstances are different, and that's a lot of money to lose for a few days' work. imo, the important thing is to be able to make an informed decision, and it appears you have certainly done your homework. good luck to you, mamboni...let us know how it all plays out.
Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.
Take the shot and be done with it.
We can close this thread now. Thank you for your participation!
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It has come to my attention that older patients are being coerced into filling out a very invasive and personal questionaire in order to receive service. Two I know that refused it.
Does anyone have any info on this? Is a death panel being planned?
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Eggscellent question ! (dumb humor-i know but the flu shot has eggs in it)
Well not everyone knows this, but this year is the WORST year EVER for HARASSMENT to seniors to get this NEW SPECIAL FLU SHOT FOR SENIOR CITIZENS
called Fluzone.
A little info here at linky:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...r-seniors.aspx
I have NEVER seen old people bugged & bugged sooo bad about getting a flu shot like this before.
As far as paperwork, I don't know because all the seniors I know---well they said No Thanks seeeee ya !
They want us poisoned & sick from cradle to grave. I look for life expectancy to drop to around 40-50 for the kids growing up today.
Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.
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EE_
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It has come to my attention that older patients are being coerced into filling out a very invasive and personal questionaire in order to receive service. Two I know that refused it.
Does anyone have any info on this? Is a death panel being planned?
So, if one does not *completely* fill out the 'questionaire', then is one denied 'service'??
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Is a death panel being planned?
Death panels are the foremost thought on the mind of any Communist.
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Eggscellent question ! (dumb humor-i know but the flu shot has eggs in it)
Well not everyone knows this, but this year is the WORST year EVER for HARASSMENT to seniors to get this NEW SPECIAL FLU SHOT FOR SENIOR CITIZENS
called
Fluzone.
A little info here at linky:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...r-seniors.aspx
I have NEVER seen old people bugged & bugged sooo bad about getting a flu shot like this before.
As far as paperwork, I don't know because all the seniors I know---well they said No Thanks seeeee ya !
They want us poisoned & sick from cradle to grave. I look for life expectancy to drop to around 40-50 for the kids growing up today.
Entitlement problem solved!
Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.
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midnight rambler
So, if one does not *completely* fill out the 'questionaire', then is one denied 'service'??
One of the two people I know was told they would deny service, yes. He refused and left without being treated.
I'm hoping to get my hands on one of these forms, to make them public.
Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.
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EE_
One of the two people I know was told they would deny service, yes. He refused and left without being treated.
I'm hoping to get my hands on one of these forms, to make them public.
So the Hippocratic Oath has become the Hypocritic Oath?
Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.
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EE_
One of the two people I know was told they would deny service, yes. He refused and left without being treated.
I'm hoping to get my hands on one of these forms, to make them public.
probably something like these:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q...o25sNaCr1sdpDA
http://www.riteaid.com/www.riteaid.c...nsent_Form.pdf
Note on bottom: "I acknowledge that my vaccination record may be shared with federal or state agencies for registry reporting. "
somethings up & I have the heebie jeebies real bad ! What if they somehow majorly updated their tracking technology
and that's why this has been the BIGGEST push for flu vax EVER seen before ??
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Re: If I refuse the Flu Vaccine my medical practice will be terminated.
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Originally Posted by
mamboni
No deadline spelled out. But after reading the medical literature, I find the potential side effects acceptable from a riak standpoint - it is exceedingly low. As to the question of taking the flu vaccine - I do not like being told that I have to do anything, especially when it impacts directly on my body. But, I cannot make a defensible case against the vaccine vis-a-vis the evidence. On a practical side, I am a private contractor. If I miss 3 days of work, the cost to me personally is in the thousands of dollars. Balance that against the flu vaccine likely reducing my chance of contracting flu by about half. From a business standpoint, the flu vaccine is a fair hedge against loss. Now there are those in the alternative media who claim that the vaccine has long term detrimental health effects (i.e. damaged immunity, increased risk of Alzheimer's disease etc.). I have investigated the peer-reviewed studies and cannot find the publications to back up these claims. The Cochrane report finds thst flu vaccine has little to no benefit to the population in general. But to the specific question of whether mandatory vaccination of healthcare workers is a net benefit vis-a-vis preventing nosocomial flu there is one paper, only one, that does show significant benefit in preventing infection of patients and reducing worker sick time. So if I try to fight the shot, I standing on empirical quicksand.
So roll up the shirt and take the quicksilver? Well, if you think that is better for you...
