new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

My mistake looking at those two again. The way you describe it is 100% right. I thought that front blacked out bit was in a different place altogether but it's in the same place on both images.

Do you think maybe it's a dead person? Would the proportions be right for a young adult? from the angle is seems possible but I don't know about the vertical.

On the dispatch recording, when the officer radios in he see's 2 of em, at about 90 seconds in, it sounds to me like there is gun fire as well. 2 shots. just wondering if a couple people got shot out front.

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Originally Posted by collector

NBC News http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98TV7OFazFU who has recently been told by both sate and federal officials

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All that news article says is that ONE AR-15 was found in the shooters car and (apparently) not used in the shooting and that (4) handguns were found inside the school. This says nothing about another rifle not being used to kill victims.

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Originally Posted by Glass

it doesn't mean they weren't, but your question is valid. To keep up the narrative there should be a fix there. Either the guys lying or everyone was killed with a long gun. The ME does qualify what he says by saying "all the ones I have seen". So at that time either he hadn't finished looking at everyone or he wasn't going to look at all of them and delegated some to another ME. It's likely there'd be more than on examiner. I'd like to know how many he looked at.

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No, the news report now states that 4 handguns were taken into the school - only handguns were taken into the school.
He had taken the assault rifle but left it in the car.

Imagine you're the medical examiner. Supposedly each kid was shot 5 times - that's over 100 hits. I'm sure there would also be many more misses and you'd have bullets going through glass windows, hitting the walls, getting lodged in closets etc. Now imagine the floor - bullet casings everywhere as well as empty mags. Anyone who has any knowledge of firearms can pick up that casing, look on the back and see either 9mm or .223 or whatever. Dr Creepy is so careful not to say what caliber bullet killed the kids but he is willing to go on record saying that the bullets that killed came from a rifle - since none was taken into the school, this is a deliberate lie - no error, no omission, a lie !

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he is willing to go on record saying that the bullets that killed came from a rifle - since none was taken into the school, this is a deliberate lie - no error, no omission, a lie !

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How do you know no rifle was taken into the school?

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All that news article says is that ONE AR-15 was found in the shooters car and (apparently) not used in the shooting and that (4) handguns were found inside the school. This says nothing about another rifle not being used to kill victims.

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you'll have to re-watch the video from the 28 second mark forward. if no rifle was brought into the school, I have serious doubts a loaded one was laying around for him to pick up and use it on the kids.

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you'll have to re-watch the video from the 28 second mark forward. if no rifle was brought into the school, I have serious doubts a loaded one was laying around for him to pick up and use it on the kids.

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You are making a presumption that he was the only killing platform operating that day.

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You are making a presumption that he was the only killing platform operating that day.

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Since no one else was officially charged then it's a safe assumption. This is THEY'RE fable - they're controlling it and cloaking it with secrecy, trying to get everyone involved on the same page. If they can't even do that and they're having to change their story, everyone involved in the deception should be charged with a crime just as they want to charge individuals for POSTING false information.

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Since no one else was officially charged then it's a safe assumption.

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I prefer to make NO assumptions. I also make no accusations. There appears to be conflicting facts associated with this event.

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I prefer to make NO assumptions. I also make no accusations. There appears to be conflicting facts associated with this event.

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Personal choice - I choose not to give carte blanche for terrorists the time they need to create the perfect lie.
I posted a video where the media has announced that no rifle was brought into the school and that 4 handguns were found - medical examiner said kids were shot with a rifle. Police said there was only one shooter....someone is intentionally lying

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I don't get this. The 2nd Amendment isn't about hunting

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That's why my (presumably uninvited) reply was "nobody said anything about hunting".

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someone is intentionally lying

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Police have no qualms about lying to your face. This is a proven fact.

Has a grand jury been seated yet? Has an indictment been brought against anyone?

The entire thing is one giant hoax and what makes it so hard to accept for the common man is the number involved. We are talking several thousand if not tens of thousand people.

Hell is BIG.

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Police have no qualms about lying to your face. This is a proven fact.

Has a grand jury been seated yet? Has an indictment been brought against anyone?

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Of course not but these videos should be saved to hard drives because anyone facing trumped up charges about posting "misleading information" can use these in their defense. Again, it's important to document official lies in order to wake people up to what's going on here. It's been proven that major networks will alter file footage, change audio or edit video from their own archives (Fox after 9/11) so it's important to save this stuff and spread it everywhere to expose the outright lies and fabrications. I won't hold my breath for indictments but if it happens or if people demand it from their representatives - that'll be a bonus. In the meanwhile we should all do our part to document and spread this information

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The entire thing is one giant hoax and what makes it so hard to accept for the common man is the number involved. We are talking several thousand if not tens of thousand people.

Hell is BIG.

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I think in this particular hoax, a lot of people have been compartmentalized. They have their role and are told it's for whatever reason (super secret ongoing drill, etc) but I think we all know this thing is about pushing gun control just like OKC was about anti-terrorism bills and security in federal buildings as well as BATF funding. In OKC they tried to blame militia but that failed so they used other means to break apart groups dedicated to defending the constitution and opposed to UN influence.

I agree - there's a lot of people involved in the bigger globalism picture but the number is negligible when compared to the amount of people in this country

Here are a couple of links to other endeavors in deconstructing what we have been fed by the MSM on Sandy Hook:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-san...mation/5316776

and Paul Craig Roberts, who describes how the story is 'agenda driven' and that the truth doesn't matter:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012...ls-over-truth/

What I find interesting in all of this is the speed with which the deconstruction has taken place. It's been two weeks since the event, and already a huge list of inconsistencies have been cataloged, and we are entering into the phase where the agenda is starting to override the event itself as the main issue. Does it seem that the people who pull off these grotesque 'mass murder events' are becoming transparent?


Hatha

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Here are a couple of links to other endeavors in deconstructing what we have been fed by the MSM on Sandy Hook:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-san...mation/5316776

and Paul Craig Roberts, who describes how the story is 'agenda driven' and that the truth doesn't matter:

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012...ls-over-truth/

What I find interesting in all of this is the speed with which the deconstruction has taken place. It's been two weeks since the event, and already a huge list of inconsistencies have been cataloged, and we are entering into the phase where the agenda is starting to override the event itself as the main issue. Does it seem that the people who pull off these grotesque 'mass murder events' are becoming transparent?


Hatha

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Unless the inconsistencies are discussed by the MSM, the truth will never be known. Everyone is going along with the official story, just like 911. People will be looking at Sandy Hook for a long time.

I think they will continue to fabricate the news since they see how willingly people believe it and trust it as factual.

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On the dispatch recording, when the officer radios in he see's 2 of em, at about 90 seconds in, it sounds to me like there is gun fire as well. 2 shots. just wondering if a couple people got shot out front.

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That's about the only thing the MSM has been consistent on,

all the shooting took place within a small perimeter near the entry, inside the school and first adjacent classroom.

This is also strange to me, I would think after the first shots many would flee to other parts away. A teacher may have been delayed only by pitching kids out the windows, for one shooter to cause so much damage in a small perimeter with minor # of injuries seems the work of a professional.

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Unless the inconsistencies are discussed by the MSM, the truth will never be known. Everyone is going along with the official story, just like 911. People will be looking at Sandy Hook for a long time.

I think they will continue to fabricate the news since they see how willingly people believe it and trust it as factual.

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The MSM is losing credibility. Look at how many people are buying guns. At some point, all the agendas they are pursuing will become apparent to even the least astute among us. You will know when we reach that point when you start hearing really cruel sarcastic jokes about what these people are doing. Like when the Soviet Union was collapsing.


Hatha

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That's about the only thing the MSM has been consistent on,

all the shooting took place within a small perimeter near the entry, inside the school and first adjacent classroom.

This is also strange to me, I would think after the first shots many would flee to other parts away. A teacher may have been delayed only by pitching kids out the windows, for one shooter to cause so much damage in a small perimeter with minor # of injuries seems the work of a professional.

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What has me wondering is how much glass would have been blown out by ricocheting bullets or direct shots ? Every classroom I've seen has an entire wall of windows, you would think with supposedly over 100 shots fired, there would be bullets and glass everywhere in that area of the building. I wish there was some footage of the outside of the classroom(s) involved....I'm having a hard time believing this entire thing wasn't a secret drill using blanks and actors.

Maybe those black blotches are gun sacks from the shooter(s)?

The medical examiner stated all casualties were caused by rifle.

Listening to the radio news last night it was mentioned that the school might be torn down soon.

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Listening to the radio news last night it was mentioned that the school might be torn down soon.

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Reminds me of the quick demo and SEALED BURIAL of the Murrah building in OKC.

this should be good. Mike Harris is the guy who made a splash on PressTV saying djooz did sandy hook.

JB Campbell is:
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Duff is a freak AFAIC.

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Today's guest were Gordon Duff and JB Campbell, the topics varied from the Sandy Hook Massacre and Israeli death squads, to the coming gun grab and the war on the American people by Bolsheviks. To how to solve the jewish problem.

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Here's Morris in London on this event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30AFIidDzVE

There's no shortage of people in the world who are able to see through this agenda. Check out the comments on the YT page.

Hatha

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Here's Morris in London on this event:


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Morris plays up the supposed 'LIBOR connection' despite NO ONE being able to substantiate it, and for me that impeaches his credibility.

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Morris plays up the supposed 'LIBOR connection' despite NO ONE being able to substantiate it, and for me that impeaches his credibility.

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There was a pop-up in that part of the video that states that he mistakenly fell for that initially but now knows that he shouldn't have (something like that).

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Reminds me of the quick demo and SEALED BURIAL of the Murrah building in OKC.

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AND the wtc 1,2 &7..as well as waco....predictable.

Is there a pattern common to all these psy-ops? Half the people believe the 'official story' and the other half see right through it. These things keep the world pretty well divided, don't they? Divide and conquer. While we're all arguing about it, Feinstein slips in a piece of legislation that nobody in the congress will read, but will vote for it. Sorta like the Patriot Act after 911. Deeper and deeper down the hole we go. Who's doing this to us? And how do we make it stop? Certainly it's the media. But they get their orders from somewhere. Ditto for all the government agencies involved. I'd bet there is a 'psy-op central' somewhere that manages all these events. Probably a handful of people who plan, organize, staff, co-ordinate, and control all these activities--world wide. It wouldn't be hard to stop it if we knew who is really doing this.


Hatha

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Who's doing this to us?

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The Lucifer (Satan) worshiping Death Cult.

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And how do we make it stop?

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Cleanly and thoroughly cut them out of your life like the mastizing tumor they are.

We're in a spiritual battle.

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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

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On Sunday, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend.
After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It's like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant!
Now aren't you wondering why this isn't a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting? There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone.
So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened.
Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you'd like to know.

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It wouldn't be hard to stop it if we knew who is really doing this.


Hatha

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Without a Top where would there be room for a bottom?

It (tumor) must be infiltrated by those cells closest to it then processed to the trash, a normal procedure in a healthily operating body.

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https://webmail.netins.net/Redirect/...ng-4122668.php

On Sunday, 2 days after the CT shooting, a man went to a restaurant in San Antonio to kill his X-girlfriend.
After he shot her, most of the people in the restaurant fled next door to a theater. The gunman followed them and entered the theater so he could shoot more people. He started shooting and people in the theater started running and screaming. It's like the Aurora, CO theater story plus a restaurant!
Now aren't you wondering why this isn't a lead story in the national media along with the school shooting? There was an off duty county deputy at the theater. SHE pulled out her gun and shot the man 4 times before he had a chance to kill anyone.
So since this story makes the point that the best thing to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun, the media is treating it like it never happened.
Only the local media covered it. The city is giving her a medal next week. Just thought you'd like to know.

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Here in C.R. San Jose there is an armed or unarmed "private" guard about every 200 meters.

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According to Infoplease the following murder and rape rates per 100,000 inhabitants was taken from U.S. FBI, Crime in the United States annual.

• Los Angeles - Murder 12.6 and rape 28.5
• Chicago - Murder 15.6 and rape
• Houston - Murder 16.3 and rape 42.6
• Philadelphia - Murder 25.6 and rape 69.5
• Phoenix - Murder 15 and rape 36.4
• Dallas - Murder 16.4 and rape 45.7
• Las Vegas - Murder 11.3 and rape 48.1
• Detroit - Murder 41.4 and rape 65.5
• Indianapolis - Murder 13.5 and rape 65.8
• Jacksonville - Murder 11.4 and rape 23.8
• San Francisco - Murder 12.8 and rape 23
• Columbus - Murder 14.1 and rape 76.3
• Memphis - Murder 20.3 and rape 59.1
• Baltimore - Murder 42 and rape 25.3
• Milwaukee - Murder 20.6 and rape 26.9
• Kansas City - Murder 28.1 and rape 65.9
• Cleveland - Murder 24 and rape 106.3
• Atlanta - Murder 20.9 and rape 51.8
• Miami - Murder 13.9 and rape 16
• Tulsa - Murder 15 and rape 78.4
• Minneapolis - Murder 12.5 and rape 106.8
• St. Louis - Murder 37.9 and rape 79.8
• Cincinnati - Murder 25.1 and rape 104.7
• Buffalo - Murder 19.8 and rape 65
• Stockton - Murder 14.6 and rape 38.7
• Newark - Murder 34.5 and rape 29.5
• Mobile - Murder 14 and rape 29.6
• San Jose, Costa Rica - Murder 6.6 (According to Janes.com or 7.3 according to the OIJ) - Specific rape data for the city could not be found.

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I've nearly convinced myself that it's a body lying infront of the vehicle.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...ps493e9198.jpg

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Is there a pattern common to all these psy-ops? Half the people believe the 'official story' and the other half see right through it. These things keep the world pretty well divided, don't they? Divide and conquer. While we're all arguing about it, Feinstein slips in a piece of legislation that nobody in the congress will read, but will vote for it. Sorta like the Patriot Act after 911. Deeper and deeper down the hole we go. Who's doing this to us? And how do we make it stop? Certainly it's the media. But they get their orders from somewhere. Ditto for all the government agencies involved. I'd bet there is a 'psy-op central' somewhere that manages all these events. Probably a handful of people who plan, organize, staff, co-ordinate, and control all these activities--world wide. It wouldn't be hard to stop it if we knew who is really doing this.


Hatha

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I think it's the central bankers and those who participate in the CFR and Bilderberg meetings.

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I've nearly convinced myself that it's a body lying infront of the vehicle.

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...ps493e9198.jpg

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There isn't any blood though. Another thing I just noticed is the blue chair in the upper corner. That's rather odd!

The chair is in this photo.

http://lonelyconservative.com/wp-con.../Newtown-2.jpghttp://tribwpmt.files.wordpress.com/...hook.jpg?w=900[/QUOTE]

I have always wondered why they do drills on the same day too. Why? Do they use the images from the drill for this event? Do they possibly use the dispatch audio?

i think the chair is cut off by the angle. I think the chair is odd.

as to blood, not necessarily. blood could pool underneath. what are the temperatures like there? Are people coated up or is it warm there?

Interesting article about how easy it is to make computer generated images of people. It would be so easy to do this for the kids' photos.

http://www.businessinsider.com/photo...ed-people?op=1

Considering the likelihood of 'body snatching' some airline passengers on 9/11/01 I wouldn't put it outside the realm of possibilities of 'body snatching' 20 children and a few adults - considering we have such little evidence to draw reasonable conclusions from.