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Constitutional Lawyer: Oregon Standoff Isn’t About Ranchers, The Feds CANNOT Own Land Outside DC
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The Federal government has been seeking to expand it’s power for years, and President Obama has insisted that because he was a professor of Constitutional law he somehow is more equipped and capable to teach us how this country should run and why we must obey whatever he says.
He therefore jammed Obamacare through Congress with not one Republican supporter, and then somehow conned the Supreme Court into affirming that U.S. citizens MUST purchase insurance or be fined. This is typical of the lawless Obama administration, and we have truly become a banana republic, though that is not how the Constitution is written.
See the excellent video on page 2 regarding Constitutional limitations that are being violated.
The Federal governments seems to think that the citizens only own property leave of the government, and in essence that is true.
If a person buys a piece of property and pays property taxes on it, that is a form of rent paid to the government, and the government can seize that property and push the rightful owner off of that land if the taxes are not paid. How then does someone own a piece of property if the government can demand rent and evict if that rent or tax is not paid? It is stunning when seen this in the broad context, and true students of the Consititution will recognize the con that we have all bought in to.
The latest land and power battle is over father and son ranchers in Oregon by the name of Hammond went to jail on an arson charge. In 2002 and 2006, these ranchers decided to clear some brush and overgrowth on their ranch land by conducting a controlled burn, a very common activity in large areas such as their ranch in Oregon. The fire accidentally spread onto federal lands but was put out by the ranchers without any help from the feds. However, the Federal government still charged the ranchers with arson and are determined to jail them for 5 years each. Incidentally, the Federal land is flourishing, is now less of a wild fire hazard, and no properties were damaged in the incident.
The Constitutional attorney in the following video cites the Hammond case, but then goes on to instruct us on why it is only a small part of the huge overreach of the Federal government, as shown by the Constitutional limitations that the Federal government has been ignoring.
Watch video, page 2:
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He therefore jammed Obamacare through Congress with not one Republican supporter, and then somehow conned the Supreme Court into affirming that U.S. citizens MUST purchase insurance or be fined. This is typical of the lawless Obama administration, and we have truly become a banana republic, though that is not how the Constitution
U. S. citizens must purchase Obamacare. Everyone else must sign a Form W-4 (perjuring themselves) in order to purchase Obamacare.
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Range Fire/Range Magazine has added all of Todd Macfarlane's videos. It looks like the previous page, but as you scroll down you see the most recent videos. It is being updated daily..
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ONGOING: OREGON STANDOFF TRIAL — COVERAGE & COMMENTARY
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more from Todd Macfarlane on September 19 proceedings. I couldn't get all the page to load this morning because of all the videos they have posted so I was unable to post this commentary.
DAY 5 — Monday, September 19, 2016.
Note: Since we don’t have unlimited resources, RANGEFIRE editor, Todd Macfarlane, will not be able to report live from Portland during the entire trial. Based on other contacts and connections in Portland, however, we will be providing both written and video updates, even when Macfarlane is not on the ground at the trial. These reports will be based on second hand information, but will hopefully help interested parties follow developments in the case as it progresses.
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Today, the government’s first witness was Linda Beck, a MNWR fish biologist, whose office Ammon Bundy used during the occupation. She testifiied about her duties at the refuge, and the government’s efforts to remove invasive carp fish from the shallow lakes. During both the government’s opening statement, and during Beck’s direct examination, it was stated that the Refuge had planned to bring in a commercial fishing enterprise during the month of January, to help remove the carp.
This representation certainly raised eyebrows because the water would have been frozen, and it was difficult to understand how a commercial fishing effort would work under those conditions. On cross examination, however, Beck admitted that the commercial fishing effort was actually planned and scheduled for April.
Beck also testified that despite the fact that she had not been at the refugre during the month of January, she continued to work and do her job, and was paid, just like all the other refuge employees were. She said that when she returned to the refuge her office was a big mess, and looked like it had been trashed, but on cross examination she admitted that she didn’t know who had made the mess, and couldn’t say that it might not have been the FBI that made the mess.
One of the most important points of Beck’s testimony came when she was shown a photo of a whiteboard in her office. When the image of the Whiteboard was blown-up to see what it said, at the top of the board were the words “Adverse Possesion,” with elements listed under that heading. Beck testified that neither she, nor any other refuge employees had written these things on the whiteboard.
Carla Burnside, the Refuge archeologist testified that the refuge headquarters had actually been built on top of an archeological site — back before it was unlawful to do that. She acknowledged that there are thousands of artificats housed in a basement on the Refuge, that have never been displayed, and there is no current plan to display them.
Videos were shown of messages Ammon Bundy allegedly posted on social media, along with Blaine Cooper, Jon Ritzheimer and Jason Patrick. In Ritzheimer’s video, he says “we will never fire unless fired upon.” In Ammon Bundy’s video, after telling reporters that he had been in Harney County for two months working to try to do something to help Dwight and Steven Hammond, Ammon says “We feel we have exhausted all prudent measures and have been ignored.”
Twenty-three year-old Nick Bleuler testified that when he arrived at the refuge on January 2nd, the day the occupation began, he encountered men with rifles. Bleuler said that he didn’t have a firearm, but went to the refuge to support the Hammonds, and to protest land grabs. He testified that he helped take down the FBI cameras installed at the Refuge, near the headquarters, which among other things, recorded all license plates coming and going at the refuge.
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Details continue to emerge the FBI may have fired on LaVoy Finicum
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Details Emerge that FBI ‘may have opened fire’ on Oregon Rancher
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The case of LaVoy Finicum, the rancher who was gunned down in Oregon earlier this year, may have disappeared from the main stream press, but you can be sure that it is still a hot topic in rural America where they see it as a clear cut case of murder by government authorities. The situation embarrassed local and federal authorities as farmers and ranchers continued their protest against government overreach and land theft, which was carried in national newspapers for weeks on end.
The end result was that Finicum, one of the leaders in the debacle, advised officials that he was going to the next town to meet with the sheriff there. County sheriffs have tremendous jurisdiction over the area that they oversee, and that would have been a problem for law enforcement and the FBI Hostage Rescue Team which was on site.
Enroute to the meeting, Finicums truck was forced off the road into a snow bank, Finicum got out of the truck with hands raised, then tried to approach officers with his hands held wide, but was gunned down in cold blood there in the snow. There is both helicopter footage as well as a cell phone record of the incident, and it is causing some major concerns among law enforcement and the FBI.
It is clear from the helicopter footage that Finicums murder was a set up, with the objective of stopping the rancher’s protest in its tracks. The FBI would like to lay the responsibility of the shooting on the out of control local police, but there is new evidence pointing the the FBI and their crack marksmen.
New details have emerged that an agent with the FBI’s elite Hostage Rescue Team may have opened fire on Robert “LaVoy” Finicum, one of the central players in an anti-government standoff in Oregon, after Finicum’s truck crashed near a police roadblock.
Several members of the FBI unit were present Jan. 26 when authorities attempted to stop two vehicles carrying leaders of the standoff away from their stronghold at a remote federal wildlife refuge. During the encounter, two Oregon state troopers shot and killed Finicum; eight other people were arrested.
Last week, Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson, who is overseeing the investigation, said he had concluded that “FBI HRT operators fired two shots as Mr. Finicum exited the truck, and one shot hit the truck.” Nelson accused the agents of failing to “disclose their shots to our investigators.”
The five FBI agents have denied firing assault rifles during the incident. But in a recently released interview, an Oregon State Police officer told investigators that he spotted two copper-colored rifle casings near the spot where the FBI agents were standing. The Hostage Rescue Team has used copper- *colored casings, former agents said; the Oregon state police use only silver-colored casings. The copper casings were never recovered.
Meanwhile, the Portland Oregonian reported Tuesday that FBI surveillance video taken after the shooting shows the agents searching the area with flashlights and huddling. One of them then bends over twice and appears to be picking up something.
On Wednesday, a law enforcement official confirmed the video account. If allegations of a coverup are determined to be true, the incident would be hugely embarrassing to the FBI and deal a devastating blow to the FBI team’s reputation.The Hostage Rescue Team is a highly trained unit that was formed after the massacre at the Munich Olympics in 1972. Many operators were once in the U.S. military and served in the Joint Special Operations Command.
Little is known about the operators involved in the Oregon standoff. An Oregon state trooper told investigators he wasn’t sure whether they used their real names. An investigator described them as “pretty mysterious.”
The FBI declined to comment Wednesday because of the ongoing investigation. Earlier this month, FBI Portland Special Agent in Charge Gregory T. Bretzing said, “The question of who fired these shots has not been resolved.”
The Office of the Inspector General for the Department of Justice is investigating the incident. The new information provides circumstantial evidence of possible misconduct, officials said, but is not conclusive.
It was not clear Wednesday whether the inspector general had interviewed the operators involved in the Oregon shooting. The agents continue to work, but they cannot be deployed in situations that might require them to use their weapons.
The American people generally accept that the FBI is a federal department that operates with integrity and honesty. The case of LaVoy Finicum raises real questions about the agency and its ability to operate as a national para-military organization without much oversight. Particularly in rural America people are starting to question why the federal government thousands of miles away in Washington D.C. needs to exercise so much control and to commandeer and restrict so much land in the West.
The death of LaVoy Finicum is being seen as a de facto execution designed to put the protesters in their place and to serve as an excuse to round up and incarcerate many of the ranchers. To date there are at least 20 ranchers who have been jailed and who are being held indefinitely under sweeping and spurious charges that could represent decades in jail. There is, perhaps, a very good reason that the government and the Democrat party is so anxious to implement severe gun control measures. It is a precursor to gun confiscation, because a weapon is the great equalizer when government oversteps its bounds and authority. That it may come to that is uncertain, but the murder of LaVoy Finicum shows that the federal government is deadly serious in its desire to unrest of the American people. And with the execution of Finicum the federal government very well could have just lit the fuse to greater and more widespread uprisings.
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From RangeFire, "Another Side -- 'Malheur Misfits' Will Get Justice? -- According to the Pittsburg Post-Gazette"
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Another Side — “Malheur Misfits” Will Get Justice? — According to the Pittsburg Post-Gazette
According to the editorial board of the Pittsburg Post-Gazzette, The “Malheur Misfits” — an anti-government group — will get justice
Note: We’ve said it over and over again, here at RANGEFIRE! we have no interest in being a single-dimensional echo chamber. We acknowledge that there are always multiple sides to every story. In the West, there is an old saying to the effect that: “good fences make good neighbors.” At RANGEfire! we acknowledge our virtual neighbors on this virtual landscape. We think it is important for people to have an opportunity to hear all sides of the story, and know what others are saying about these issues. So we often share what others are saying.
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According to the PP-G Editorial Board, “for 41 days earlier this year, Ammon Bundy and a group of armed ranchers occupied the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. The occupiers, who brandished weapons and threatened federal officers, also made it clear that they didn’t recognize the government’s authority to own or even manage public land. They recognize no law above themselves.
When the occupiers were finally arrested Jan. 26 on a road in the refuge, not all of them surrendered peacefully. One of their members, Robert LaVoy Finicum, was shot and killed by an officer who thought he was reaching for a gun. Finicum actually believed the violent rhetoric that his cohorts gave lip service to when they weren’t surrounded and outgunned and paid for it with his life. He died while his friends turned themselves in without a fight.
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Now that the trial of Ammon Bundy, his brother Ryan and five others has begun, their excuses for armed defiance of the government sound even hollower. In opening arguments this week, a defense lawyer insisted that Mr. Bundy never threatened anyone and that the charge of conspiracy to impede federal officers through threat and intimidation was unjust. If this is the best defense the occupiers can muster, then things will not go well for the hapless rebels as they try to explain how the guns and ammo they opened displayed and pointed in their direction weren’t intended to intimidate.
Still, it is to the credit of the American justice system that the occupiers, who claim to be beyond the government’s jurisdiction, are entitled to a vigorous defense. Their arguments, no matter how absurd, will be heard. Because we live under a system of laws and not posses operating in the Wild West, judgment will be rendered accordingly.
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Thom Davis and Rene Powers post on the felon who testified for the prosecution
BLEULER? BLEULER? FED PROSECUTORS CALL ON COMPROMISED WITNESS FOR THEIR TRUTH TO BE SPOKEN?
THE COWBOY AND THE LADY·TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2016
On September 19, 2016, Nick Bleuler, witness for the Federal Prosecutors in the US vs. BUNDY et al, gave testimony against the Constitutional Posse led by Ammon Bundy. We have some questions about the credibility of this man and the relationship of his testimony to possible deals with the prosecution? Bleuler is another in the long list of felons who wound up in the inner circle of the Refuge Stand Up.
Bleuler testified regarding the removal of the spy cameras that were found upon telephone poles in the Refuge area. Blueler testified following what we opine is confused testimony of fish biologist Linda Beck, refuge employee. We want to speak briefly to the crazy testimony of Beck.
Beck testified to an event she said was to have been held at the refuge, a BIG fishing event in January, an event that was interrupted by the occupation of the Refuge. Hello? January? The water was frozen folks? Beck later was corrected by Ammon Bundy’s attorney, Mumford, that the event was actually scheduled for April, not January. Beck also testified her desk was a total mess when she returned and that the refuge was trashed by the Occupiers, but we evidence shows the day Lavoy Finicum was assassinated, January 26, the men left the Refuge buildings in orderly condition. Mumford had a befuddled Beck admit that the FBI could have been the ones who trashed the Refuge, she was just speculating.
What we see is a continued prosecution case of fabricated and coached testimony. The Cowboy was given information that the witnesses for the prosecution were actually being coached by the prosecutors with what to say as they were testifying. It was said that the leading was done through possible hand signals and facial expressions as well.
Bleuler and Becks testimony is in this story by the Oregonian by Maxine Bernstein: http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-st...
...FBI License Plate Reader Cameras Removed Before the day ended, prosecutors called 23-year-old Nick Bleuler to the stand. The Harney County resident said he drove to the refuge the night of Jan. 2 in his fiancé's 2008 Ford Crown Victoria. When they pulled up to the front gate, about 10 to 15 men with guns pointed the barrels of their firearms at the car."They took a strong posture because they thought we were FBI or law enforcement,'' he testified. He drove home, but returned two more times to do guard duty in the watchtower. On Jan. 15, he also helped Ryan Bundy, Finicum and others remove FBI cameras from two utility poles – one on Highway 205 about 25 miles north of the refuge, and another on the eastern edge of the refuge.A video of the occupiers removing the cameras showed one man holding a ladder. "That be me,'' Bleuler told jurors.While Finicum is captured on the video saying he'll give the cameras back to the FBI if they come to their next press conference, Ryan Bundy is audible in the background saying, "I'm not sure we'll give it to them. You might.''Blueler, a three-time felon on probation for child endangerment, said his friend was arrested on Jan. 25 for theft of the cameras. He wasn't, because he "hid,'' but did end up talking to FBI agents later. Asked if he received any promises from federal officials for his testimony, Blueler said he did not, but defense lawyers noted he was put up at a hotel for three nights to enable his appearance in court. Blueler said he didn't have a firearm at the refuge, but went in support of the Harney County ranchers, and to protest "land grabs.''At one point during cross-examination, Ammon Bundy's lawyer Marcus Mumford asked Blueler why he was smiling or laughing,'' and Blueler replied, "Because you're pissing me off.''Mumford continued his questions. Blueler responded mostly with one-syllable answers, and looked down at his lap when he spoke, barely making eye contact with those questioning him."I appreciate it Nick,'' Ryan Bundy told him, completing his cross-examination. "Thank you for coming.''
We did not have to look far for information of Bleulers arrests and bad choices or behavior. Why is it that those who were saying they were “vetting” so many around the refuge allowed this young man to do guard duty and participate? That strange question that keeps coming back time and time again, “Why did the Bundy’s allow so many questionable characters inside their circle?” Was it that those who were vetting were not actually vetting to help them? One has to ask.
REMOVAL OF CAMERA FOOTAGE:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg9...
A quick search of Bleuler found he has had his own demons to battle in his life, not just testifying for the prosecution, but also in defense of himself for local problems and scrapes he himself has had with the law, as mentioned in testimony regarding his past. We find it interesting that he was not arrested because he hid, yet now sits on the stand testifying? Bleuler was arrested in October, November AND December 2015 leading up to the occupation, but not since? It would be commonsense to draw the conclusion that he has not been charged or arrested himself in exchange for his testimony, both the prosecution and Bleuler deny those claims.
Here is a sampling of what we know, this is not all that he has, but all we care to dig for as this would seem enough to have been a red flag to have him participate in the Refuge event:
Blueler spoke in a court proceeding on behalf of his experience in a treatment program in Harney. In The County Court of the State of Oregon for Harney County Minutes of the County Court April 23, 2014 http://www.co.harney.or.us/PDF_File...
October 15, 2015 https://jailalert.com/arrest-record... Nickolas Bleuler
Arrest record information Arrest Date [1]:10/15/2015 Agency:Harney County Sheriff's Office State: Oregon County:Harney County Record Date [2]:Oct. 18, 2015, 4:05 p.m.
UTCTracking number:4212217 Share this record: Request Full Record Person information First Name NICKOLAS Last Name BLEULER Gender Male Age at Arrest 22 Year of Birth1993
Arrest Record Overview for Nickolas Dean Bleuler APRIL 14, 2014
First Name: NICKOLAS
Last Name: BLEULER
Middle Name: DEAN
Gender: Male
Race: White
Arrest Date: 2016-04-14 12:00:00
State: Oregon
County: Harney
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Brown
Weight: 140
Height: 507
ARRESTED NOVEMBER 16, 2015
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Nickolas Dean Bleuler was arrested on November 16, 2015 in Harney, Oregon on charges of RESTRA ORD. He is 507 tall, with brown hair, blue eyes and weighs 140 pounds. Per the United States judicial system, Bleuler is presumed innocent until proven guilty. More information on this arrest may be obtained from local police at Harney County Law Enforcement. HE WAS ARRESTED FOR VIOLATING A RESTRAINING ORDER
ARRESTED DECEMBER 2, 2015 First Name: NICKOLAS
Last Name: BLEULER
Middle Name: DEAN
Gender: Male
Race: White
Arrest Date: 2015-12-02 12:00:00
State: Oregon
County: Harney
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Brown
Weight: 140
Height: 507
Arrest Record Overview for Nickolas Dean Bleuler May 26, 2015
First Name: NICKOLAS
Last Name: BLEULER
Middle Name: DEAN
Gender: Male
Race: White
Arrest Date: 2015-05-26 12:00:00
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Brown
Weight: 140
Height: 507
Total Bond: $25,000
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*on a note: When Bleuler was arrested for strangulation he was also in possession of heroin.
Well folks, another day, another felon to add to the list.
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Defendant Jeff Banta was able to speak with Ryan and Ammon Bundy today:
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Today I got the chance to converse with Ryan and Ammon, for the first time we were able to say sentences. which is more than the usual " morning", which I found out early on while talking to David Fry, was about all the marshals were going to allow. So it was very nice. Ryan told me he's doing pretty good and that it had gotten a little better in the last couple weeks. He explained he was focused on getting close to the Lord, and I expressed that I was working at doing the same. Ryan is doing a very good job defending himself, all the while showing great respect for every witness he cross exams. He is only being himself and I'm sure the jury can see what a descent man he truly is.
I told him that I had saw a video on Facebook of his mom talking to his dad, and explained that it sounded to me that Cliven was holding up well. To this he agreed, but said his brother Davey was currently having a tough time with his situation. So I ask on Ryan's behalf that all of us do what we can to reach out to Davey ,and show him our support anyway we can, wether it be a simple letter or even financial support to his family.
Really all the Bundy families need support, so I sincerely hope you do what you can. I believe whatever charity we give we get back at our own time of need.
Next I spoke to Ammon, he was sitting with scriptures opened in front of him so I hated to interrupt, but I did disturb him briefly. As always like the videos we all have seen , he was soft spoken and kind. Our conversation was short. Just so everyone knows, this was only the second time I have ever spoken to both these men in my life. I met each of them the day before La Voy was murdered. And our conversation was very short. I am extremely proud to be in the same company with these two men.
David Fry sits directly in front of me and we converse often even though he is routinely reprimanded for it, but we manage to do it anyway. David seems to be dealing pretty well . Often asking me to have a good lunch for them. Like Ammon and Ryan, David also is respected highly.
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Malheur Protest trial Day 6 reported by Rangfire,
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DAY 6 — Tueday, September 20, 2016
The Goverment is moving through its case fairly quickly, and has indicated that it will probably rest its case about next Monday or Tuesday, which means that the government will have put on its entire case in less than two weeks. Exactly what does that mean? More important than quantity is the quality of the government’s evidence. One of the reasons we are summarizing the evidence is so that you can judge for yourself whether the Government has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that there was a conspiracy to impede and interfere with federal officers, and exactly who was a part of that conspiracy.
Today the Government presented evidence through Harney County Deputy, Lucas McLain, FBI Special Agent Ben Jones, FBI surveillance pilot Jeffrey Cleveland, and four MNWR employees, including Ryan Curtis, Jesse Wenick, Shane Theall and Edward Moulton.
The employees testified about their absence from the refuge during January and early February, based on instructions from their supervisors, and the condition they found the premises in when they returned. They testified that they found things “messy and rummaged through,” and about government vehicles and equipment that had been used by the Defendants. Once again, social media evidence, including Facebook and YouTube images and videos were used to document such usage, and the parties involved.
Deputy McLain testified about transporting the defendants, including Ammon Bundy, shortly after their initial arrest, before handing them off to the FBI for transportation to Portland. He said that he discovered Ammon had been talking on his cell phone.
Part of my role in this whole alternative media coverage equation is to provide commentary, so I’m going to provide more of that in this segment. Like I have mentioned in some of the longer pieces I have written about the trial, I have people ask me all the time why the Government is presenting some of the evidence it is — including the fact that Ammon talked on his cell phone after he was arrested. My answer is “I don’t know.” They ask me all the time, what, if anything, this kind of evidence does to
support the Government’s case. And again, it http://rangefire.us/wp-content/uploa...-1-300x213.jpgleaves me scratching my head too. Is this the best evidence the Government has of an alleged conspiracy — the fact that Ammon Bundy would call his wife to tell her that he had been arrested? Or, that Victoria Sharp, who was also being transported (but has never been charged), and over the course of several hours of detention had repeatedly requested to be allowed to relieve herself, but had been denied, so eventually she had no choice but to urinate in the vehicle. Is this the best evidence they have? How does it help the Government’s case? Good question. I can only speculate that it is intended to show that they don’t follow orders well — when Victoria Sharp, who isn’t even a defendant in the case, is ordered to hold it indefinitely, she just didn’t play by the rules. Likewise, when Ammon Bundy and the others were ordered to be quiet, that whispering to his wife on his cell phone was a violation of that command. The government is trying to show that all of them are renegade rule-breakers who don’t do everything they’re told.
Deputy McLain testified that he and FBI Agent Ben Jones searched the defendants, and found $8000 cash in an envelope in Ammon’s jacket pocket, including a receipt showing that he had withdrawn it from his account the previous day (1/25) in Idaho. In his wallet they found receipts, dated 1/1/2016 from a BiMart in Nampa, Idaho, showing purchases of winter boots, Federal ammunition, and three cheap rifle scopes. But Ammon was not armed at the time, and no evidence has been presented that he was ever armed at the Refuge.
When Ammon’s attorney, Marcus Mumford, asked Agent Jones if there was anything illegal about withdrawing cash or buying ammunition or rifle scopes, he had to admit that there was not anything illegal about it. The insinuation was that Ammon intended to be at the Refuge for a long time..
On cross examination, Ryan Bundy asked MNWR fire management officer, Shane Theall, if he had ever had any prescribed burns burn more than the area intended, to which he responded that he had. Ryan then asked him if he had ever been charged with arson terrorism for doing that, to which the government objected, and moved to strike the question. Ryan Bundy also asked FBI surveillance pilot Jeff Cleveland if he liked spying on his fellow Americans, to which the government again objected and moved to strike.
In their cross examinations of the witnesses, the defendants and their attorneys asked numerous questions to which the Government objected, with Judge Brown virtually always sustaining their objections. At several points Judge Brown admonished them that she was going to cut of any further cross examination if they tried to probe any further. Although the Government is on the offensive, and has the burden of proof, if there is one way its case can be characterized, it is “defensive.” The government is very defensive about its own actions, and anything to do with its own motives — which Judge Brown has said are not on trial in this case.
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But the biggest news in the case today did not come in the Government’s case, any of the witnesses it called, or any of the evidence it presented. The biggest news came via notice filed by Defendant Shawna Cox accusing the Government of coaching its witnesses on the witness stand. Cox filed an affidavit in support of her motion, signed by someone else observing the trial, stating that in addition to the prosecuting attorneys, the Government also has a team of people who come into the courtroom on an alternating basis and coach the witnesses through hand signals, etc. According to the affidavit, based on vantage points in the crowed court room, virtually the only people who can actually see what is going on are the witnesses and the judge. According to the affidavit, the team coaching Sheriff David Ward including FBI Special Agent in Charge, Greg Bretziong, and Oregon U.S. Attorney Billy Williams. Of course the government denied that anything akin to witness coaching was going on.
I am going to have to admit that Shawna Cox, who represents herself, has made some bizarre filings in this case, but this is one that I’m not going to have the same knee-jerk reaction to that many do and automatically reject it. The reason I’m not is based on my own experiences and observations. I’ve seen this sort of thing happen.
Almost exactly three years ago I was trying a six day jury trial in federal court here in Utah. It was a civil rights case against a local county that I had inherited from one of my local attorney friends who had been killed in a car accident. Base on what I spend most of my time doing, I hadn’t tried a case in some time. At one point in the case I had one of the county commissioners on the stand for a day and half. Because he was an adverse witness, I was able to use leading questions in my direct examination. He started out very smug and cavalier in his testimony. When court adjourned for the day after I had been examining this witness for several hours, one of the court observers told me that the county’s insurance defense attorney had been clearly coaching and signalling the witness during the examination, and the witness was continually looking to the attorney for cues. This person suggested that I position myself http://rangefire.us/wp-content/uploa...-1-300x277.jpgbetween the witness and his attorney to help prevent that from happening. The next morning I too noticed that the witness was always looking to his attorney for signals and direction. Unlike the Oregon Standoff trial where the attorney remain seated to conduct their examinations, in most trials attorneys are allowed to stand and even roam as they ask questions. In that case I was careful to place myself so that I would obstruct the witness’s view of his attorney. Big beads of sweat started to form on his brow. He really started to squirm, and his attorney objected to my location in the courtroom, to which the judge said she found nothing wrong with it. At that point I did back up a little bit, but continued to carefully block the witness’ view. Left to testify without coaching, eventually the witness completely fell apart. He became very emotional, and blurted out that he thought the plaintiff in the case was a real jerk, and he had no reservation bending the law to stick it to him. So based on my own personal experiences, I am not going to reject Cox’s notice so lightly. It actually seems consistent with what I have observed in the case so far.
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Todays testimony reveals Mark McConnell was one of .gov's informant, something most of us have realized since January. Apparently there were more.
And no story would be complete without all the juicy gossip . . . . . .
AN INSIDE TIP GIVEN MONTHS AGO TO THE LADY BY ONE WHO CALLED HIMSELF A FED WORKING THE REFUGE CASE.
THE COWBOY AND THE LADY·WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 2016
It is normal for tips to be called into the Cowboy and The Lady, but none more interesting than the one by a man who told a tale the Lady, i, could not share until now, until the fact was known so that the information about McConnell being undercover would not be attacked. The full call of information is still not vetted, but it sure leaves me wondering if all i was told was true, he insisted it was.
It was a late night in February when i got a cryptic message. It was from a man who said he was a Federal Agent, but he could not give his real name, though he had information to share. He said he was very upset about what went on, could not share his name but knew that the entire event at the Refuge was staged and infiltrated beyond anyones wildest imagination. Being weary of false information the call was not spoken of, until today.
The man had a fake profile on Facebook and had been following my work for sometime. He felt my work was truthful and sought to get evidence and correct information before sharing. He said, “Mark McConnell is a Federal Agent”. McConnell was outed by a friend he knew and when the trial started the truth would be seen. Upon hearing those words i knew that it was not something that could be put to print until the trial gave this fact into evidence.
i can’t be sure, but the story is one that others may want to look into as this case has more twists and turns than a winding road around a mountain side, full of cliffs and fall offs that are dangerous. See the cliff and you can avoid it, miss it and you could fall over the edge. Well, i was not about to fall over the cliff and say McConnell was a fed until the evidence i was told would come out at trial, and it did. Now, i share this interview and information with you. Do you have the answers to whether it is all real or not? i had no way of knowing, but it was a tale of a story no less...here it is, the questions i asked in bold and his answers follow:
Who are you? “I am an agent who actually worked this case, but on leave now, the PTSD from the job has caused me to go out on leave. But, i know that many of the men inside are informants.
How do you know? “Well, a woman who is a sister of a lead agent went in undercover as the EMT who went in the night of the attempt to take the baby from the Refuge”.
What baby? “The baby that was there with the mother always talked about in McConnells first interviews.”
You mean the one Mark McConnell says he helped get out of the refuge because she was scared? “Yes”
Who is she? “She is Blaine Coopers mistress and the baby is his”.
What? Does everyone know this? “i am not sure, but if i know then suffice it to say others do”.
So what happened with the attempt to save the baby and why? “ Well, since there were drones over the Refuge with heat detectors and such we could see the baby’s temperature was dropping because of the cold and it was determined that we needed to attempt a rescue mission to save the baby.”
How?“A high ranking Federal Agent, one in charge of this case, had a sister who was trained military and had medical training. This woman was going to go undercover in an ambulance as an EMT and attempt to get the baby out. When she was at the FBI center getting ready to take off McConnell hit on her, at that time she saw his badge and gun. She told him that he had no idea who she was but that he better leave her alone if he knew what was good for him as he didn’t know who her brother was.”
Wow! So, you are saying that they took a team in and the woman actually saw a badge and gun on McConnell? “YES!”
What happened because the baby left later with McConnell not an ambulance?“Well, when they got to the Refuge it was dark, Ryan Payne met them out of the dark with a gun pointed at them in defense of others as it was a surprise and no one at the refuge expected them.”
A Surprise? How, they had a watch tower. “i am not sure, but we know it took the men at the refuge by surprise when it was an EMT and they were saying loudly that they were there to get the baby”.
Holy Crap! How do i know this is real and true? “I don’t know, but you will have to figure it out, all I can tell you is it is.”
DON’T SHOOT THE MESSENGER FOLKS, i am just sharing what information i was given, let’s see if we can find the answer? Is Blaine Cooper the baby daddy? Or was this all a made up tale to get me to put out that McConnell was an informant early to be jaded in our articles to be able to discredit us? i have no idea, so read this and like me ask, “what in the hell was i just told?”. Short of a paternity test we don’t know, but seems others do. As the story turns...
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Floyd Breshears Wow , ! , you sure like dropping bombshells,
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The Cowboy and the Lady well, i have sat on this for so long i was wondering if it would ever be shared...now it is out and others can do what they will with the info...the call has haunted me for months.
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Thaddeus Deane Interesting...
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William Fry "But I know that MANY of the men inside are informants."
THAT IS DAMN FRIGHTENING!!...See More
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