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Pretty much what I mentioned a few pages back, organ donors since Israehell is into that sort of stuff. Medical records online, pick and choose the type they need and snatch em up. Not too far fetched IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
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Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Yes, but then why so many parent actors? That's why I don't think they are real.
One thing I've thought about is the principal. The original script must have had her as a survivor but maybe she decided not to go along with this. As well, the original script had Nancy Lanza as a kindergarten teacher and they later changed that. There must be a reason for both of these things.
These people are who we normally refer to as TPTB. They have the power and the money, so they get what they want. They have set up some sort of organization that is no doubt highly compartmentalized. One of those compartments is the Psy-Op function. This function would itself be compartmentalized into groups that formulate strategies, and develop programs and plans and even schedules for when to carry out certain events depending on many factors. This group would likely have no specific knowledge of how any of their plans or programs would be carried out. There would be another specialized and compartmentalized group that would be given portions of such plans and schedules (without any knowledge of who developed them) whose job would be to carry out those portions of the plans. This would be the group that recruits patsies, and arranges for the actual shooters, and cleans up after themselves by disposing of evidence and witnesses, as well as the patsies and anyone who could make the truth be known. And there would be another compartmentalized group responsible for 'public relations'. This would be a group that recruits actors, controls the media coverage, and writes the scripts for everyone given exposure by the media. A scheme like this would require unlimited amounts of money, and skill at extortion, and blackmail and the manipulation of loyalties. The secrecy would come from the compartmentalization of the activities. People in various different compartments would have no knowledge of how the whole operation is organized, nor about any other compartments. They would know that if they revealed anything about who recruited them, they would disappear. They would be paid very well for their 'services'. Anyone who has read any of Victor Ostrovsky's books--By Way of Deception, or The Other Side of Deception would have an idea of how the Mossad has recruited a worldwide network of 'sayanim' who participate in various different operations, but really know nothing about the overall plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunshine05
There is a handful of people who know about all the various compartments and manage (plan, organize, staff, coordinate, control) them to get results. This group needs to be discovered. Probably not more than a dozen people. It is likely that the inner circles of TPTB would know who this group is. It is likely that they would have hundreds or even thousands of people they could trust to fill in any of these jobs if the current holders are compromised or gone.
It may not be so easy to dissolve the conspiracy that is doing this. If I remember correctly, the British uncovered a group in India around 1812 called the Thuggees who murdered and robbed people and made them disappear. They had been doing it for at least two centuries. They sent a Major General William Henry Sleeman to find these thuggees and to get rid of them. Sleeman found a large group of families participating in this, and the way he was able to extinguish them was to execute or imprison all the males of these families older than six years of age, so that they would not pass on their evil knowledge to their progeny to perpetuate their practices. This extinction took a whole generation. I doubt that the motives of TPTB are any more honorable than those of the Thuggees, but it is on a different scale because these people control the world's money.
Anyway, there is my $.02 worth of comment on who and what is pulling off all these murder/mystery/media dramas in front of our eyes today.
Hatha
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The straight down picture appears to be altered. The black splotches are too black and uniform and the edges too smooth to be equipment or even a black cloth placed over something they would want to hide. To me it looks like someone went in Photoshop and painted over what they were trying to hide with black and then blended or softened the edges slightly. There is no texture they appear completely flat. Compare that to the black car and you'll see what I mean.
The side angle shot could be equipment or bodies but whatever it is it certainly doesn't match the overhead photo.
one thought that keeps nagging me with these photos...
if it is loose/extra equipment, what the hell is it doing right next to suspect's car inside the "crime scene" perimeter??!
that is blatant contamination of a crime scene, is it not?
Grisholm would be flippin' his wig if he was the CSI on this one...
The thought occurs - Nancy Lanza had spent Tuesday and Wednesday night out of town, not returning home until Thursday evening reportedly getting back home around 5:30 PM - WHY didn't Adam Lanza commit the shooting while his mother was out of town?? ??? WHY did he wait for her to return so he could (allegedly) kill her before his (alleged) massacre?? ??? He could have chosen to spare killing the one living soul who loved him more than anyone else did, unconditionally, yet he (allegedly) waited for her to return so he could kill her too.
My theory: Adam didn't kill his mother, Nancy was a potential witness who would have undermined 'the official narrative' and therefore she had to be eliminated.
Nancy Lanza (just like everyone else who takes responsibility for themselves) should have had a good dog or two to alert her to intruders in her house.
The straight down picture appears to be altered. The black splotches are too black and uniform and the edges too smooth to be equipment or even a black cloth placed over something they would want to hide. To me it looks like someone went in Photoshop and painted over what they were trying to hide with black and then blended or softened the edges slightly. There is no texture they appear completely flat. Compare that to the black car and you'll see what I mean.
The side angle shot could be equipment or bodies but whatever it is it certainly doesn't match the overhead photo.[/QUOTE]
I looked at those things and have wondered what they are too. They do sort of look like soft rifle cases that may have been unzipped, a rifle removed then left laying on the pavement.
i think the images are altered as well. I went to getty images where you can search for images on this story. There are several other images of that scene taken from the air which also show the blacked out areas. Still doesn't look right but it isn't any clearer.
I'd go a few steps beyond this speculation. Adam Lanza is a patsy (just like Lee Harvey Oswald and James Earl Ray). If he really is dead, he may have been killed along with his mother, and his body taken to the school and dumped there by the real killers (if there are any real killers), or he may have been manipulated into going to the school and killed there by the real shooters. No one has seen any photographs of any bodies--not the mother nor of the patsy. Nor any children, or school personnel. We have no way of telling if anything in this story is true. It could all be as real as the tears Obama shed in his press conference. Nobody is in custody (maybe Adam Lanza's brother is). Nobody was arrested or charged with anything. The Connecticut PR Trooper with the official cop hat tells everyone nothing is true unless it comes from him. So, this is truth by authority, not by facts or reason or evidence. Disbelief is a confrontation with authority, and subject to varying degrees of marginalization and official ostracism, if not excommunication or burning at the stake.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
How hard do they have to work, how many resources must they call up to uphold a lie? Ultimately the truth is what you believe. If nobody believes it, it's not true. And really, in this instance, does it matter what is true? If you know (by your own reasoning) that they are lying, the emphasis shifts away from the 'truth' to 'why are they lying'? The answer there is obvious. It's their gun control agenda, and that is not flying. They have managed to trigger (no pun intended) a stampede to the gun dealers by people wanting to buy more guns. The only thing that could have succeeded for the people who put on this show was to divide the public and cause conflict between those who support the second amendment and those who would give it up for 'safety'. The next drama will be the legislation to ban guns--by a legislature that represents the people who bought the legislators, not the people who voted for them.
One thing that happens in all evil totalitarian regimes is that everyone if forced to choose between obeying their conscience or obeying authority that violates their conscience. You will be forced to choose between the courage of your convictions or going along with the evil. Silence is a choice you make to go along with the evil. The evil will only go away if everybody recognizes it, calls it out, and shoots back at it if necessary. It's not omnipotent. It's only real weapon is fear. Having the right to own guns is only the means for confronting a government gone evil. The other half is having a population that has courage to call out that evil government. If only 10% have that courage and are armed to the teeth, the evil government is powerless and will disappear.
Hatha
Yeah, but it can certainly make a helluva mess in its death throes.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Tumbleweed
I looked at those things and have wondered what they are too. They do sort of look like soft rifle cases that may have been unzipped, a rifle removed then left laying on the pavement.[/QUOTE]
Maybe the guns they took from Nancy Lanza's house?
The one or two* long guns taken from the trunk of the car were not in soft case cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuro
*someone has done a good analysis of the video and concluded that there were likely two guns taken from the trunk of the car - one thing I do recall: within a day or two there was a very credible report of a shotgun being taken from the trunk and what the talking head was saying was that it was a 'high capacity' shotgun that could have done a lot more damage (nothing heard about that since then, apparently would cause discontinuity of the 'official narrative' "coming from these microphones" - and from my observation of the video it looks like one of the guns taken from the trunk was indeed a semi-auto shotgun
I didn't bother reading much of this thread.
Did anyone point out how easy it would have been to know what was used by simply looking at the head stamps on the spent brass?
Interesting info here:
http://www.truthin7minutes.com/school-shootings
Recent photo of another distraught cartoon character.Quote:
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http://forward.com/articles/168277/n...-mourns/?p=all
I have a rifle in a soft case leaning against a wall and it looks very similar to the two black splotches by that car. My guess is the two shooters got out of the car and pulled their rifles out with them. the driver unzipped and pulled his rifle out and left the case by the right front fender. The passenger did the same on the passenger side and left his case laying there. I believe in an interview with Gordon Duff by Jeff Rense Duff says the russians had a satelite camera focused on the school and three people entered the school. The two shooters probably herded Lanza into the school and shot him then continued their shooting spree. I have no idea what they might have done with their rifles when they were trying to get away after the shooting and were caught.
That's what would make sense to me but in this case I believe the shooters screwed things all up and the government false flag planners are having a hell of a time trying to make up a believable story because of all the screw ups. SOB's
Did they have any reasoning why the Russians would have a satellite aimed at the school?Quote:
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War is peaceQuote:
Originally Posted by Horn
Freedom is slavery
Ignorance is strength
Money is debt
Happy is sad
More people mourning from hearing the news. They are really completely miserable, but just took some SSRI's
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They're so integrated they could only be models for society.Quote:
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Which of course falls miserably short when put into real world field testing.
The only thing that is taught is how to apply tooth whitener without getting any on the gum tissue.
I'm not for sure who the interviewer was of Duff but they both wondered that question too. I believe that information had come to Duff through one of his military contacts. I suspect the russians have spys who know what the false flaggers are up to.Quote:
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Wow! One day after their little boy is massacred, this couple head out to a tattoo parlor for matching tattoo's. WTF????Quote:
At the center of everything is Veronique. On her right wrist is a tattoo she and Danielle both got the day after Noah died: a small pink rose flanked by two angel wings with Noah’s name spanning the space between them, and his birth and death dates beneath. A torn black ribbon is pinned to her shirt, a Jewish mourning custom. She is wearing purplish pink lipstick and her short black hair is combed into puffy curls around her face.
“I hope it doesn’t look callous to some people, but I have to keep taking care of myself physically,” she says, “That is what Noah would want. He would want his mom to be the way she always is.”
Read more: http://forward.com/articles/168277/n...#ixzz2Gf8YMesZ
maybe she is someone who is prone to cutting to release emotional stress.Quote:
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Russian Spy Satellite, no need to focus.Quote:
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The reason stated was that there was a nearby military asset that they kept their eyes on. I don't recall what it was.Quote:
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It would be nice if the Russians would show the evidence on RT if it exists.
I like the soft-rifle-cases interpretation of the blobs in the parking lot. It would explain why they felt the need to photoshop most of the aerial photos. Two rifle cases were okay to drop because the plan had Ryan showing up as patsy number two. When that fell through they became embarrassing and had to be edited out.
Why are you using Gordon Duff as a relevant source of info?
I seem to recall he said like 40% of what he said is bs so he doesn't get killed. So maybe 60% of the truth is good enough.Quote:
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the desc. of that YT ^ says:
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Published on Dec 31, 2012
Here's Part 2: http://youtu.be/iYBDsGLNfNw
Our friend Mark S. Mann is back. He's a cop, he's in Connecticut and we have a LOT of QUESTIONS about the contradictions and inconsistencies of the official story of the Sandy Hook Elementary school massacre - and resulting gun grab. **This is Part 1 of 2.**
From the comments of the youtube video
Remove all Dual Citizens in Federal/State/Local Gov. Positions. Keep it Illegal for Dual Citizens to Hold Public Office
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...ublic/sThbn64F
"Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy was finally given the list at about 3 p.m., Woodall said.
On it were 26 names; 20 were children.
Charlotte Bacon, 6; Daniel Barden, 7; Olivia Engel, 6; Josephine Gay, 7; Ana Marquez-Greene, 6; Dylan Hockley, 6; Madeleine Hsu, 6; Catherine Hubbard, 6; Chase Kowalski, 7; Jesse Lewis, 6; James Mattioli, 6; Grace McDonnell, 7; Emilie Parker, 6; Jack Pinto, 6; Noah Pozner, 6; Caroline Previdi, 6; Jessica Rekos, 6; Avielle Richman, 6; Benjamin Wheeler, 6; Allison Wyatt, 6."
I'm wondering - if none of the parents were able to see the bodies, HOW did they identify these children by 3PM that day? Remember that the teachers were also shot and killed.
They say the parents were shown pictures, but how? Did they call all the parents in whose kids were missing and pass around photos from the scene? Is your child in the photos? This doesn't make any sense. They should have needed dental records to confirm. Other kids from different classes could have been in the room, certain kids could have fled and based on the reports of multiple shots, wouldn't it have been difficult to identify some of them?
Is it possible that these kids were made of the same stuff as the 19 Arab hijackers of 911? That they are completely fabricated? The stuff of myth? That they never existed in the first place?
If the parents are actors, which seems to be the case, why is this not likely too? That whoever did this fabricated the kids and the teachers out of thin air? Did we see any bodies? Did I not read somewhere that they are going to demolish the school? Now that would be right up there with 911 where all the evidence, every shred of it was disposed of post haste. I wonder if they plan to demolish the school while the people are still in it? Like the WTC towers? This one is another 'national security myth'. Like the one that started WWII- the attack on the Gliewicz radio station on the Polish border with Germany?
Hatha
this show's starting now, 9 AM pacific:
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Tuesday, January 1, 2013
Prof. James Tracy: The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information
http://www.fau.edu/scms/images/faculty/tracy.jpg
Tuesday, Jan. 1st, 11 a.m. to noon Central (9-10 Pacific) on NoLiesRadio.org (then archived here a few hours after broadcast).
James Tracy is an Associate Professor of Media Studies at Florida Atlantic University. His recent article The Sandy Hook School Massacre: Unanswered Questions and Missing Information has gone viral, suggesting that more and more Americans are waking up to the fact that the "deep state" or "dual state" is behind almost all "terrorist attacks," school shootings, and massacres of civilians. If you doubt that, please study the history of Operation Gladio, which appears to be alive and well in the USA.
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Labels: deep state, dual state, eric wilson, false flag, james tracy, operation gladio, sandy hook, school shooting, terrorism
Yes, that's exactly what I believe to be the case. I don't believe anyone died. I think the entire thing was staged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatha Sunahara
I like to highlight issues with the official story, like the one above. There is no reasonable explanation for how these kids were all identified by 3PM and not only that, they had that flag poster made with all the names pinned to it that very day. Who made that? There was a similar flag poster in the school. Are we to believe one of the survivors worked on that that afternoon?
I would think the the Principal and School Psychologist who were killed at Sandy Hook went to the same place that Barbara Olson went on 9-11-01. Anybody remember Barbara Olson? Here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Olson
Her Husband was Solicitor General Ted Olson, who lied about getting cell phone calls from her from the plane. I bet she's in Israel now. She got her law degree from Yeshiva University.
Hatha
I recall that. Her husband was key to the Clinton scandal around Lewinski.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hatha Sunahara
This is strange to me. If my child survived an ordeal like this, the last thing I would do would be to send them somewhere to be with the kids and teachers. I mean, this is Christmas break for everyone. The kids don't NEED school administrators. They need to be with their families! Field trips, face painting, really?! This is just ridiculous to me.
NEWTOWN, Conn. -- The children at the Sandy Hook Elementary school won't be returning to classes for another week, but officials from the town, school district and local agencies are doing their best in the meantime to keep them occupied following a massacre at their school two weeks ago. The students have not attended school since a gunman killed 20 of their schoolmates and six adults on Dec. 14. They are slated to return to a different school next Thursday.
In the meantime, they've been treated to field trips, toy giveaways and some organized play time. "A couple of the teachers have done pizza parties," said Janet Robinson, Newtown's school superintendent. "Another met her kids at the library so they could have a little reading time together. The most important thing has been connecting the students back to their teacher and their classmates."
The Newtown Youth Academy, a nonprofit sports center, opened its doors to all kids in town at no cost shortly after the shooting. But from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. last week, the building's turf field, basketball and tennis courts, and giant inflatable obstacle course were reserved just for Sandy Hook Elementary students. There have been arts and crafts for the smaller kids, as well as face-paintings. Some celebrities, including two members of the Harlem Globetrotters and former University of Connecticut basketball star Tina Charles, also have stopped by to play with the children. UConn's men's basketball team and its coaches made a trip to the academy Thursday and played games with the kids, posed for photos and signed autographs. "It was great for us to be able to see some smiles on their faces and to spend some time with them," Coach Kevin Ollie said. On Thursday afternoon, school buses were loading up at the Youth Academy for a trip to Stamford and a larger complex, Chelsea Piers, which also has ice rinks and an indoor swimming pool, said academy owner Peter D'Amico. Sports celebrities, such as Brooklyn Nets forward Kris Humphries, planned to meet them there. "The idea was to get them away from the house, the television and all the coverage of this tragedy and get them to a place where kids can just be kids," said D'Amico, a longtime youth coach in town.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2375628.html
This video shows the two black objects by the Honda sedan, it also has one of the mothers referring to "a masked man' (why does someone who's intent on suicide need to wear a mask?? ???)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqkwbvo3T60
It was the LEO that got the pictures. It was the LEO/Medical Examiner who made the identification of the bodies from the pictures of the children. That way no parent was required to ID the bodies.Quote:
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