Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
The statute that governs the US District Courts of USC Title 28 June 28, 1948 the same year these courts were created. Read the definition of Vessel of the United States.
This statute determines the jurisdiction of Anna J. Brown's court. Regardless of the cloud on the title of Malheur Reserve the Congress and the Constitution have not given her jurisdiction over "public land", only over land reserved or acquired for the use of the United States
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So The Feds don't have jurisdiction over the land, but do have jurisdiction over their people. Just shows the merit of staking your claim to your State. Notice claim your State, but not State citizen, instead State National.
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Bigjon
So The Feds don't have jurisdiction over the land, but do have jurisdiction over their people. Just shows the merit of staking your claim to your State. Notice claim your State, but not State citizen, instead State National.
The way I interpret it is straight from the 14th amendment. Indeed, State National.
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Misportrayed – The Most Mischaracterized Trial and the Most Misunderstood Defendants in Oregon History… Ammon and Ryan Bundy
Posted by Scott Rohter on Saturday, October 22, 2016
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The trial of Ammon and Ryan Bundy and five other defendants who occupied the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in January of 2016 is notable both for what is being discussed in the courtroom and for what is not being discussed in the courtroom. What isn’t being discussed or barely being discussed in the courtroom forms the underlying basis for all of the defendant’s actions and the alleged crimes which they are accused of committing…
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Categories: International, National, Oregon Tags: Ammon Bundy, Dwight Hammond, Judge Anna Brown, Kenneth Medenbach, Lavoy Finicum, Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, Marcus Mumford, Matthew Schindler, Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, Stephen Hammond
Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
^ That was a good article. Adverse possession is something that I think a lot of people are unaware of. It's something I've been aware of most of my life. I've been involved in disputes over adverse possession of land and water rights and so have family members before me. When you have water and land rights you have to defend them. I don't recall anyone getting shot over them but they have ended up in court to get them settled.
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I grew up knowing about adverse possesion, land patents, water rights, and grazing rights too. I think most of us who come from farming /ranching families learned that as a matter of survival. I currently have an adverse possession case in the court system.
One thing that stands out to me in this article is the chart showing the last 12 states admitted to the union were all after 1850, right after the "Gold Rush". The jew bankers put pressure on Congress to withold the public land from these states because of their mineral and timber recources.
Re: 150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters
30 page jury instructions on Outpost of Freedom website
http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/do...structions.pdf
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The government and the judge in this case want to make an example of these guys. It takes some courage to disregard some of a judges instructions and do what's right with jury nullification. I hope the jurors can see what the judge and government are up to and will have the courage to go against them. It's really obvious why the government doesn't want jurors to know anything about nullification. The jurors are the judges of the law and what's right or wrong and they have the power to do the right thing no matter what a judge says.
If they do come back with a not guilty verdict it'll piss the judge and states attorney off. When a jury uses nullification and comes back into the court room with a not guilty verdict you look those sob's in the eye because you're telling them to go to hell, they know it and that really pisses them off and there's nothing they can do about it. I've been there and done that. ;D
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The persecution of the Bundy good guys. . . . .
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Bundy Prosecutors Admit That Undercover Informants Outnumbered Defendants In Recent Trial
By Roger I. Roots, J.D., Ph.D.
October 24, 2016
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For the past six weeks Oregonians have been treated to a political trial of the “Malheur 7” (Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, Jeff Banta, David Fry, Neal Wampler and Ken Medenbach,). I was privileged to have a ringside seat at the trial as a volunteer researcher and paralegal for Ryan Bundy (who represents himself) at the trial.
As I write these words, the jury is out, considering whether the defendants conspired to prevent U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service or Bureau of Land Management officers from performing their duties at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in rural eastern Oregon. The Bundy brothers and other defendants are alleged to have participated in an “armed standoff” occupation of the Refuge during January 2016 (while protesting the unconstitutional occupation by the federal government itself over the Refuge and other public lands).
The trial has revealed an astounding brave new world of modern surveillance and surreptitious “law enforcement” techniques. Drones flew over and recorded much of what went on. FBI agents captured and monitored every phone number connected between every participant. A search warrant after the fact gave the government permission to surf through 36 Laptops, smartphones, flash drives and other devices to build the government’s case. The FBI turned the analysis of Facebook likes, dislikes, messages, and posts into a science, with multiple agents assigned to that social media alone.
Outside the Refuge, FBI, Oregon State Police, and other law enforcement agencies swarmed over the countryside. Government snipers appeared on local rooftops. Barricades and barbed wire were erected to protect the school and courthouse from the alleged militia danger. Undercover FBI agents dressed as redneck militia members roamed through local stores and menaced the streets.
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Money was spent at such an extravagant pace that one professional auditor told me that the dollar amounts should have themselves triggered a separate criminal investigation. The Feds have publicly claimed that the 41-day occupation caused at least “$6.9 million” in damages. At trial, prosecutors objected, however, to every request to examine such claims. “Irrelevant!” said the prosecution. (In the event that any defendants are convicted, the Justice Department will surely assert such dollar claims in a demand for ‘restitution.’)
And there were undercover government informants. Everywhere. Suspicions that the government’s narrative was largely erected with undercover agents were borne out during the first week of trial. It was revealed by an Oregon State trooper that one of Ammon Bundy’s “bodyguards”—a man who drove him to his arrest—was an undercover informant.
Another informant (“Mama Bear”) was revealed when a defense lawyer subpoenaed her for the defense. The woman admitted that her entire trip to the Malheur Refuge was funded by the San Diego FBI office and that she was paid thousands of dollars to inform on the occupiers while helping out in the kitchen.
Each of these informants were revealed by accident. Federal prosecutors vociferously refused to provide the names of other informants—citing case law that holds such revelations may put informants in danger. Prosecutors even used secret information—not provided to the defense—to cross-examine “Mama Bear,” to the prejudice of the defendants.
For days, Marcus Mumford (attorney for Ammon Bundy) demanded more information about the extent of undercover informants. Mumford pointed to the fact that the defendants were charged with conspiracy, and no one can be convicted of conspiring with undercover government agents. (The trial was filled with unanswered questions about who brought and left ammunition and guns, who damaged property, and why some people but not others were charged.)
Finally the Justice Department stipulated (without naming any names) that at least nine occupiers were undercover informants; a number greater than the number of defendants on trial. (Heavily redacted documents in the hands of the defense suggest the number of informants was actually at least 15.)
Significantly, the prosecution’s most damning evidence collapsed at the end of the trial when it was revealed that the man who ran a militia shooting range at the Malheur Refuge was himself an undercover agent. Through the hard work of defense lawyers, “John Killman” was identified as a paid (“reimbursed,” he said) informant who traveled to the occupation at the behest of the government in a beat-up pickup truck to lead the occupiers in combat “safety” training. “Killman” had even trained defendant Jeff Banta to stop cars and pull out their drivers at gunpoint.
Stay tuned!
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