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agree, that's a good one. Now if we could keep sandy hook- conspiratorial perspective- posts in one thread, that'd be great! :)
Full Disclosure: CO, WI, CT shootings.. Are These The Work of "Lone Wolf" Gunmen? - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZPS7AdgNgE
I would also like a credible "primary source" link for the 'meme' that none of the parents were able to see their dead kids in the flesh, but settled for photos if that. I'd like to propagate this elsewhere as it would be an astonishing "anomaly" wrt the official story-- but not without a credible source link. All I've seen is the "parents" clip with the smiley parents touting their girl's OWL drawing, and saying they were happy not to see her physically; "wanted to remember her better alive self".... but every time I've heard (truth-radio podcasts) or seen this "no parent physical inspections" claim, it's been "hearsay" with no reliable source accompanying.
edit: start of Anderson Vanderbilt/Cooper interview with smiley parents at ~2:30, OWL at 5:25,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1jg0H-MfVY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1jg0H-MfVY
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There is preliminary identification by photo @ 0:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYEwrM-4DyQ
somewhere else he is asked if the ID will be by photo and says yes, then there was some comment about parents not needing to see things... not sure if it was same person. There is a longer version of the interview that runs 15:30
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Then you better rip this video real quick before YT takes it down
15 min interview
http://youtu.be/zE0OT5od9DA
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Thats the one TT. Just after minute 7 he states that they did not bring the children and parents together for formal ID. They took facial photos of the children and used those.
Between minute 4 and minute 7 he states that all the victims he saw had been killed by the long gun.
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it occurs that another "lesson" they're trying to "teach" americans via this psyop is, "they" own you, your kids. The actor/parents pretending they're just fine with taking big-brother's word that their kid's dead, they didn't want to see anyways- and the only funerals we've heard anything about were- yep, closed casket. Think of the state child stealing phenom in US through CPS, and UK as Brian Gerrish has tried to publicize-- same bottom line, training the public that they OWN your kids, not you. "They" can give your kids poison jabs as they wish, they can take your kids & make them sex slave/trauma-based MK drones as they wish (recall: Children possibly shipped to Denver)- suck it up. But with the pretend-parent/actors in this s.hook fraud, they're trying to "normalize" all this ^.
Brian Gerrish - Child Stealing by the State ( 1 hour Talk )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K8ea1kMN74
11 & 13 mins:
Brian Gerrish speaks at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010 (Part 1)
Brian Gerrish speaks at the UK Rally Against Child Abuse 2010 (Part 2)
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All I've seen is the "parents" clip with the smiley parents touting their girl's OWL drawing, and saying they were happy not to see her physically; "wanted to remember her better alive self"
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PatColo
it occurs that another "lesson" they're trying to "teach" americans via this psyop is, "they" own you, your kids. The actor/parents pretending they're just fine with taking big-brother's word that their kid's dead, they didn't want to see anyways- and the only funerals we've heard anything about were- yep, closed casket.
This is shocking to me in two ways. One, if anything happened to my kids where one of them died, you better believe with every ounce of strength I have I would want to see them. It simply blows my mind that none of these parents want to see their children! They would rather be insulated from the "discomfort" of discovering and facing the truth! But it also shocks me because I think that's where we are in this sick, sick society, that the parents of a deceased child would prefer to let the state manage and handle it than take care of their own kin. I'm simply stunned at this, these parents, if they're not just a bunch of actors, have failed one of the principal duties of parenthood.
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This is shocking to me in two ways. One, if anything happened to my kids where one of them died, you better believe with every ounce of strength I have I would want to see them. It simply blows my mind that none of these parents want to see their children! They would rather be insulated from the "discomfort" of discovering and facing the truth! But it also shocks me because I think that's where we are in this sick, sick society, that the parents of a deceased child would prefer to let the state manage and handle it than take care of their own kin. I'm simply stunned at this, these parents, if they're not just a bunch of actors, have failed one of the principal duties of parenthood.
Indeed, I find it very odd that out of 40 adults there weren't at least SOME who didn't make a stink out of not getting to see the bodies of their babies and receiving a 'locked' casket instead. We supposed to believe that.
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This is shocking to me in two ways. One, if anything happened to my kids where one of them died, you better believe with every ounce of strength I have I would want to see them. It simply blows my mind that none of these parents want to see their children! They would rather be insulated from the "discomfort" of discovering and facing the truth! But it also shocks me because I think that's where we are in this sick, sick society, that the parents of a deceased child would prefer to let the state manage and handle it than take care of their own kin. I'm simply stunned at this, these parents, if they're not just a bunch of actors, have failed one of the principal duties of parenthood.
I'm very shocked as well. How can they even take custody of the body? It doesn't belong to them. Once the autopsy is complete they should be handing them over.
The only reasonable thing to do would be to picket the crime scene yelling "hand over my child!". Force them to either give you your kid or put you in jail.
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I'm very shocked as well. How can they even take custody of the body? It doesn't belong to them. Once the autopsy is complete they should be handing them over.
The only reasonable thing to do would be to picket the crime scene yelling "hand over my child!". Force them to either give you your kid or put you in jail.
Picket the crime scene? Hell, if it was my kid I'd be marching into that school and they'd have to stop me with deadly force to keep me from seeing my child.
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http://sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com/...y-hook-school/
The New Sandy Hook School
Posted on January 4, 2013 by lynne0312
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpres...pg?w=300&h=205
I find it very interesting how quickly all of this transpired. From the decision to offer and then prepare Chalk school for the students, to all of the arrangements, the financial decisions, the physical move, the coordination between the two towns and school boards and the decision to rename the school. All of it happened quite quickly considering the typical bureaucracy involved with school boards and town councils and we are talking about a separate town AND a separate school district.
The offer of the use of Chalk Hill school was reportedly made by Monroe First Selectman Steve Vavrek to the Newtown officials on the day of the shooting!
Monroe First Selectman Steve Vavrek said Monday night that he reached out to Newtown First Selectman Patricia Llorda as soon as he heard about the shooting, offering the use of the vacant school.
I searched for school board meeting minutes on both the Newtown and Monroe town websites and there is no mention of this move. Monroe even has minutes from their school board meeting on 12-17-12 and there is nothing mentioned about Sandy Hook at all. There is no mention on either site about who will pay for the school or how the new school would be managed since they would now technically be part of a new school district. There was no word of a vote of school board members about this move. Nothing at all. Yet we’re too believe that amidst all of the chaos with this horrible tragedy that town officials not only worked out all of the financial details involved but they also worked out all of the logistics, moved all of the furnishings down to the childrens’ backpacks and water bottles and decorated the new school with snowflakes on the windows?!
They did construction to accommodate the students, such as raising the floors in the lavatories, they arranged all of the transportation changes with the busing company, got the building up to code and inspected, arranged all of the food service, office staff, hired a new principal, officially renamed the school, etc. ALL of this allegedly occurred in a two week span and during the holidays. Amazing!
I also found it very interesting that Chalk Hill school is also being used by Monroe Parks and Recreation.
The last time Chalk Hill was used as a school, the sixth grade was on the second floor and the building was shared with the Parks & Recreation Department downstairs. Parks & Rec. is still there and the Monroe Volunteer Emergency Medical Service uses the building for training.
Note that the address for the new Sandy Hook school is listed as 375 Fan Hill Road. I searched the Parks and Recreation website and noticed that there are still many active classes listed for Chalk Middle school. Interestingly, the address is listed as 375 Monroe Turnpike. According to the Parks website, Fawn Hollow Elementary is located at 375 Fan Hill Road.
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpres...pg?w=640&h=214
These are some of the activities listed for Chalk Hill School:
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpres...pg?w=640&h=414
So we’re to believe that all of this is taking place at the same location as the new Sandy Hook school? Wow.
The article referenced above also mentions that Fawn Hollow Elementary was built on the same property as Chalk Middle school.
Chalk Hill was built in the back of the same property where Fawn Hollow Elementary School is. It was designed by architect, Fletcher-Thompson Inc.
This all gets confusing, but contrary to the Parks and Rec website which lists the address for Fawn Hollow as 375 Fan Hill Rd, there is also information elsewhere that lists it as 345 Fan Hill Road.
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpres...hill.jpg?w=640
This is 375 Monroe Turnpike on Google Maps. It is labeled as “Monroe Board of Education” in Google Maps.
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpres...pg?w=640&h=482
A bit down the road is what appears to be another school. If you hover over it, it appears to be 362 Monroe, but I’m unable to find a listing for a school at that address.
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpres...nroe.jpg?w=640
However, the Monroe school board website has Monroe Elementary listed as 375 Monroe Turnpike. The website is strange as there is no photo of the school and the website is not being kept up to date. The most recent announcement is about school pictures in September ’12.
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpres...pg?w=640&h=122
This is all so confusing and I’m not sure what’s going on. Consider this though. No media was allowed to be anywhere near the new Sandy Hook school as students began classes this week. I don’t trust any of this because I don’t believe it would have been possible to accomplish all of this in this short time span and there is no evidence to support the claims. A photo of the newly converted school and signs “welcome Sandy Hook students” isn’t enough to convince me that any of this took place, especially after seeing the address discrepancies described above. Something is seriously wrong here.
Here’s the Google image of the three schools at that location, the location where the “new” Sandy Hook School is allegedly located – Fawn Hollow Elementary (345 or 375 Fan Hill RD), Chalk Hill / New Sandy Hook (375 Fan Hill RD OR 375 Monroe Turnpike) and a middle school Jockey Hollow Middle school (365 Fan Hill RD).
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpres...ls-2.jpg?w=640
In addition to moving the students to a new school, volunteers are now building a new playground at the location. Yeah, right!
There is also easy access to the field in the back of the building, where volunteers are now building a playground for Sandy Hook Elementary School.
There is much to say about all of this but I don’t want this post to get too lengthy, so I have just a couple of final thoughts for now.
If Sandy Hook is still considered an “active” crime scene, how did they allow workers with moving vans to enter the building and remove all of the bookcases, the student’s desks and even their backpacks without disturbing the crime scene?
And finally, not only did they by some miracle achieve this school relocation but they staffed the Monroe police department with enough officers so that 10 of them could guard the new school! This is what their bright new uniforms look like.
http://sandyhooktruth.files.wordpres...hool.jpg?w=640
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Sunshine, you have been like a dog with a bone on this one! your contributions to the thread have been excellent! keep up the good work!
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Sunshine, you have been like a dog with a bone on this one! your contributions to the thread have been excellent! keep up the good work!
;D
Thanks! I know, I can't let this one go.
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i hear ya! there is simply too much that doesn't add up on this... nothing makes any sense with this incident.
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Between minute 4 and minute 7 he states that all the victims he saw had been killed by the long gun.
And then they cut to a picture of a Bushmaster 223. Someone objected that the long gun was in the trunk, and someone else replied that is not true. We could not see who replied because we were looking at a picture of the Bushmaster.
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Yeah thanks sunshine, quite a master work in reply 610 :)
the other 'meme' which I'd like a primary source link for, are the early reports that a sheriff's deputy was assigned to babysit every surviving family, ?! remember that one? Another one I only heard/read banter about, but never a credible link.
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Yeah thanks sunshine, quite a master work in reply 610 :)
the other 'meme' which I'd like a primary source link for, are the early reports that a sheriff's deputy was assigned to babysit every surviving family, ?! remember that one? Another one I only heard/read banter about, but never a credible link.
It was State Troopers assigned to that task, not Sheriff's deputies. And FWIW, State Troopers in every state are Federal (they just don't advertise that fact).
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ok, state troopers then. Have link? that story has really quieted down, even in discussion forums.
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http://www.thereddingpilot.com/7218/...st-responders/
Sgt. Pat Daubert of the Weston Police Department told The Weston Forum, The Pilot’ssisternewspaper, that he helped reunite parents with their children at the Sandy Hook firehouse, and he credited Chief Fuchs with creating order among chaos and organizing the reunions in a composed way. “Chief Fuchs had the children wait in one room and arranged them by grade and class. The parents waited in another room. After IDs were checked, we brought the children to the parents. Considering the circumstances and how emotional and upset everyone was, things went very smoothly,” Sgt. Daubert said.
Chief Fuchs said that one of the greatest accomplishments to come from this was the pairing of a police officer with every single family who lost someone. “Twenty-six officers were assigned to families. They were assigned that morning and are staying with them until they are no longer needed,” he said.
Officer Heibeck and Sgt. Signore were both assigned a family and were responsible for notifying parents about the loss of their children. “They’ve been at the house every day. They brought the families to the vigil on Sunday and will bring them to the wakes and funerals,” said Chief Fuchs.
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ok, state troopers then. Have link? that story has really quieted down, even in discussion forums.
No link, but I clearly recall reports saying State Troopers were assigned to the families, however WTH knows for sure since we've gotten so many conflicting reports.
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I'm not sure how credible the work of wellaware1.com is, but I found a video they did that describes Homeland Security 'Full Scale Exercises'. This might put the CT shooting in perspective of a hoax:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=COl8rRcbhsc#!
There is a wealth of interesting stuff here: http://www.wellaware1.com/fairfield.htm
Hatha
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authored by Phillip Marlowe and reprinted @ incogman- re the weird neighbor with the changing story about the kids in his driveway...
Crazy Old Jew Blows Sandy Hook Anti-gun Psyops!
Posted on January 4, 2013 by INCOG MAN
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THE TRAITOROUS COMMIE Jew scam is going down, Jack! People all over the place are now having serious doubts about the whole “lone crazy kid gunman massacre at Sandy Hook elementary school” business. Even some I once wrote off as mostly braindead, shuffling along through life believing everything they see on TV is real — even “Storage Wars” – are starting to think something wrong is going on. Likewise, I’m certain secretive and murderous Zio Jew forces are at this moment working to limit the damage or, like Gene Rosen below, just trying to continue on with the Jew show!
Here’s what I think happened: The plan by the real perps called for six innocent widdle kiddies to survive the assault by the so-called “lone gunman” Adam Lanza. Vicki Soto and any adults who happened to be in the room (like the teacher helpers) had to die right off the bat. Everyone knows little kids at that age can’t really say or notice all that much and will not make dangerous witnesses later. But adults sure can.
And there’s no way they would put such “traumatized” little children on the air later. Perfect excuse for a country they think is now mostly PC braindead and lacking critical thinking skills to see the real power structure.
The extremely clever plan was to waste enough innocents to shock America, along with creating a few “Flight 93” instant heroes for the nation to fawn and bawl over during the legislative and media efforts to disarm us. Instead, the real assassin(s) had to slay the last bunch of kids because something interrupted the plan (probably the police unexpectedly reacted too quickly). Six was the specific number planned to go free, because they told Gene Rosen in advance that six frightened children would end up on his driveway. They also told him that a teacher, “Mrs. Soto,” would die a hero’s death and to make a big deal about it. But Rosen went way overboard with his ham acting in front the TV cameras.*
Please watch the video of this Jewish Don Knots below!
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[author goes on ^ to propose a whole scenario of what he suspects really happened. Here's the vid he posted, for those who don't make the leap - PC]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfesyWUeZk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNfesyWUeZk
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Sandy Hook Shooting Hoax "Eyewitness" (Actor?) Gene Rosen
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101 videos
Published on Jan 3, 2013
The terms "the light and the darkness" seems to keep showing up in a lot of these false flag attacks. The last one where I noticed a lot of references to "the light and the darkness" was the Aurora false flag gun control hoax.
Gene Rosen keeps saying the same things over and over again. In my opinion (I could be completely wrong) this appears indicative of scripted/practiced comments that have been well rehearsed ahead of time which would explain the strange occurrence.
One thing is for sure, Gene doesn't think his house is big enough, even though it appears to be plenty large for just be him, his wife and his cats, and you would think a 2 story house with huge yard and lofted garage would suffice, apparently not for Gene.. One has to wonder, how will this man benefit financially from this event?
Why does he use the exact same phrases and terminology in pretty much every interview he is in? It seems more than simply a coincidence. If you watch other eyewitness testimony from legitimate events, the witnesses hardly ever use the same terminology over and over again like Gene does.
Where is the proof that these children were actually at his house?, What were their names, and why would they be dropped off at his yard, when the firehouse is closer to the school, and was the official rendezvous point?
In some of his interviews, Gene starts off "I was coming out of the loft over there after feeding my cats." In another interview he says "I heard a hunter's gunshots, a staccato sound".. You would think he would remember and mention the gunshots in every interview.
Rosen didn't keep the phone numbers of the parents that the alleged bus driver wrote down to contact the parents? There appears to be ZERO proof that any children were in fact in Genes home, besides his very strange testimony.
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There are a lot of different scenarios out there about this guy. It would be a handy time for the bus driver to step forward. How many school busses could there be?
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also @ incogman, he's flamboyantly waycist :o, but he writes with a certain gusto which I like ;D
Sandy Hook Reeks of Satanic NWO Jew Psyops
Posted on January 2, 2013 by INCOG MAN
http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploa...-LANZA-ART.jpg
I’ve been reading from some of the links people have been putting on my site. Frankly, at first, I pretty much thought it was just a kid with developmental problems, who’s mind was twisted by SSRI drugs, the insanely violent Jew media and video games. Thinking back, it seems pretty obvious the media worked fast to get that idea out there immediately, which in itself is a big red flag.
So, yeah, I’m not too sure anymore. Let’s take each item that strikes me as suspicious:
Lauren Rousseau, one of the teachers killed, had her car shot up in the parking lot (photo below). Well, maybe not exactly “shot up” but photos definitely show two distinct bullet holes. And her car was supposedly in the middle of the parking lot, with other cars all around. What are the chances of two stray rounds leaving the school and just happening to hit her car? Some, I suppose.
The car Adam Lanza drove to the crime scene was not registered to his mother or him. It was registered to a low rent, copper thieving (stealing copper gutters) druggie scumbag and member of a drug dealing family in Norwalk, Connecticut named Christopher H. Rodia. This is really odd. So how come the media has said absolutely nothing about this peculiar situation?
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A new collection of White House photos includes an image of the moment on Dec. 14 when President Obama heard about details of the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut.
http://news.yahoo.com/photo-shows-ob...-politics.html
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I notice article makes the unsourced claim, "Rosen, a retired psychiatrist, is also supposedly registered with the Screen Actors Guild (what a Jew!). Knowing how blindly Jew insular and anti-Second Amendment liberal and Jew-owned Hollywood is, you just might see this old geezer getting an Oscar this year." Anyone heard this?
this clip is embedded there ^, posted 12/22 but nice lay-person oriented rant over how fishy s.hook is,
Beautiful Rant By Adam Curry About How Fake the Sandy Hook Shooting Is, The No Agenda Show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW8tVWtrQeM&
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Carolyn Yeager podcast:
How Big of a Hoax was the Sandy Hook “Massacre?”
Published on January 5, 2013 by Carolyn in Saturday Afternoon with Carolyn Yeager
Jan. 5, 2013
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Don, a lawyer from California, and Martin, a writer from England, discuss with Carolyn just what kind of a hoax took place at the Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dec. 14, 2012, when 20 first-graders and 6 teachers were allegedly killed. That’s right. The big question is not whether it was some kind of hoax but did this really happen at all or was it a “media event” in which no real deaths occurred? It’s a frank discussion that leads into possibilities most people would never consider, but more and more people are finding plausible. Some highlights:
- Is there such a thing as “media paintings” for TV that look like real life;
- No survivors; no witnesses; no one saw the crime scene or a single dead body;
- Was there ever a classroom of these children in that school or is it all invented;
- Are they testing just how much they can get away with on a television-addicted public?
- And much more!
Carolyn takes the first 15 minutes to talk about Günter Deckert, who just began a 5-month prison term in Mannheim, Germany for “Holocaust” denial. To write to Günter in prison: G. Deckert; z. Z. Herzogenriedstr. 111; D 68169 Mannheim. To send a contribution/donation of cash: Registered mail to Pf. 100 245 (G.D.); D 69442 Weinheim/B. His wife will receive it and reply with a card or letter. To send a wire transfer: Günter Deckert; IBAN: DE77 6601 0134 3457 54; BIC: PBNKDEFF; Postbank Karlsruhe. Do not talk about money in any letter sent to the prison.
Podcast: Download MP3
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Cathy Gaubert Claims Daughter’s Photo Was Stolen And Used As Sandy Hook Shooting Victim
http://govtslaves.info/cathy-gaubert...ooting-victim/
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(Thomas Dishaw) More interesting developments on the Sandy Hook shooting conspiracy…A women named Cathy Gaubert is claiming someone stole her daughter’s “first day of school” picture.
The photo was lifted from their Flicker account and published as a victim in the Sandy Hook shooting.
The mother took to Instagram posting this interesting message asking readers to put pressure on Facebook users to remove it from their pages .
According to the mother there is one page who is ignoring her request.
The above picture looks like its from the Daily Mail, although attempts to find a cashed version of the page were unsuccessful, as were attempts to contact the mother. You can view her Twitter page here and Instagram here. I don’t know but this Sandy Hook thing keeps getting weirder and weirder!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IAsVmzBX8F0
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I just want to be clear.
Every funeral thus far the casket has been closed and only a picture of deceased kid is shown???
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^ I don't know TT- this being a psyop, and that being yet another big clue, I don't expect to find any ZSM sources reporting on "all closed caskets". It would only be alt media which would report, and if we imagine it's a psyop again, there would be no real public memorials in most cases to investigate.
Don't know much about this "Morris" guy- Rense & WRH seem to like linking to his vids, but I know nothing of why we should be listening to him- most of his ~5 min spiels I've watched are just moderately insightful. Anyway this one's interesting, reminds me of Rivero's old essay, The Point Of No Return (about "humiliating us" with in-our-face lies and thus making us more malleable as we fear looking in the mirror at what we've become, are self-loathing at a subconsious level, outside we become the LIARS' greatest supporters-- stockholm syndrome stuff):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj8HrS2aoGc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj8HrS2aoGc
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Cathy Gaubert Claims Daughter’s Photo Was Stolen And Used As Sandy Hook Shooting Victim
So I ask myself, where is the mother of Allison Wyatt and why is she not making a noise about the wrong picture being used for her child?
Was news of the funerals broadcast or at least published? I'm thinking thousands of guilt trippers would show up to participate in the mourning and funeral. That's what seems to happen here when some especially tragic death occurs. Thousands show up for a mass sobbing. So that would make the news I'm sure. Did all the funerals go down or was there some notices of a service but then it went straigt to burial plot or urn skipping the actual service part?
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outside we become the LIARS' greatest supporters-- stockholm syndrome stuff):
I've found that bringing this up in the real world, and discussing it with relatives and friends is pretty much impossible.
The idea that theses NEWS EVENTS are top to bottom FAKES is really just too much to suggest.
That is, people who have a stake in these things. People like school teachers, firefighters, cops, etc ... bureaucrats and functionaries within the system.
This is actually causing deep psychological communication rifts within our own families and friends.
My SIL, a 5th grade school teacher would absolutely spazzzzzz out if I suggested that this EVENT is a mostly fictional made for TV MEDIA PRODUCTION.
Whether it actually is or not is almost irrelevant. Simply bringing it up in conversation would cause problems.
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^ that's discussed some in the podcast in reply 627 - specifically, events like this divide the reality-based community & the sheeple, and alienates them from one another... u know the satanists love that!
Afraid I don't have an easy solution though. Only to say, that as marketing people know, a target usually needs to hear a brand (or 'shocking theory' in our case) several times before they consider looking into it. In the internet age we can put a bunch of enticing links, pics, vids under sheeples' noses via email & messageboard... how did Ghandi supposedly say, first they ridicule, then fight, then u win... (also see my siggy quote ;))
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I think I figured this whole thing out, how they were able to do this. Now I just have to decide if I should write about it or if it's safer to keep it to myself since nothing will be gained from exposing this. Too many people are involved.
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In the Region: Connecticut and Westchester; Making the Iroquois Pipeline Palatable
By ELEANOR CHARLES
Published: May 24, 1992
THE Iroquois Gas Transmission System may have found an aspirin for the headaches its highway and corporate construction projects cause communities they intrude upon.
In an experiment that could become a model for the future, it has embarked on a $10 million program to compensate 60 New York State and Connecticut towns disrupted by the installation of its 370-mile-long natural gas pipeline. The money will pay for the purchase of open space and the enhancement of environmental and recreational facilities.
"Damage to the environment was the chief complaint we heard when the pipeline was proposed," said Gary Davis, spokesman for Iroquois, "so we sought an environmental solution. As far as we know the natural gas industry has never done anything like this before, nor do I know of any other industry that has." The pipeline route, cutting a swath that varies from 30 to 70 feet in width, covers piping buried eight feet underground, through which Canadian gas is being transported to distributors. It begins in Waddington, N.Y., on the St. Lawrence River and ends at South Commack, L.I. No trees can be replanted along the path, but Iroquois is restoring the surface with grass and shrubs.
Announcement in 1986 of the taking of private property under a Federal mandate created a firestorm of protest in the affected towns. In Connecticut, residential communities beginning with Sherman at the crossover point from New York State, then winding through New Milford, Brookfield, Newtown, Monroe, Shelton and down to Milford on Long Island Sound, where the pipeline enters the water, objected to no avail.
In the end, Connecticut's seven affected towns will acquire only 411 acres of a total of 3,440 acres in the two states, but the cost will be $4,427,000, or almost half the total.
"Land costs are so high in southwestern Connecticut we didn't get as much as we wanted," said Leslie N. Corey, director of the Nature Conservancy in Middletown, and a member of the Iroquois Land Preservation and Enhancement Program Advisory Committee. "But providing a public benefit of this magnitude is precedent-setting." Additional acreage and improvements for state parks are expected to be financed by Connecticut's matching of the $397,600 Iroquois for that purpose.
A seven-member committee of environmentalists from both states, formed in 1991 and headed by former Senator Paul Tsongas of Massachusetts, reviews proposals submitted by local and state governments and administers the funds. The panel was approved by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission in 1990.
Shelton won the largest grant in both states, $972,000 to buy the 52-acre Nicholdale farm. "It had been on the market for around $4 million," said Terry Jones, owner of the adjacent Jones Tree Farm, and one of several landowners who proposed the purchase. The farm will be preserved as open space in perpetuity, and Shelton will lose little in property taxes because of a 1963 state law allowing municipalities to give preferential tax treatment for forest and farm lands.
Newtown has been approved to receive $904,000 for projects including the acquisition of 65 acres on the Housatonic River to preserve a bald eagle wintering roost, improvements to a nature center, rebuilding a dam, and completion of a town pool.
"Some proposals will take another few years to negotiate," said Mr. Davis, the utility spokesman. Discussions with two property owners in New Milford have bogged down over price. The town has $280,000 in a land-acquisition fund to supplement the $424,000 Iroquois grant to buy 136 acres owned by John W. Nostrand, and 45 acres owned by Arthur Sega.
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/24/re...palatable.html
The park that borders "Sandy Hook school" is Treadwell Memorial Park.
Here is the sign, look closely.
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I believe the structures that are supposed to be the schools are meter stations at both locations.
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This is the trek of the gas pipelines. The reason I became suspicious is that you aren't able to do Google street search at these locations to get a good look at the "schools". I started looking at the surrounding parks and found this. There's more but I'm convinced this is all govt land. I believe they also did/do FEMA training in the general area.
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Sunshine, this is very important and pertinent information. I'm so impressed.
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Sunshine, this is very important and pertinent information. I'm so impressed.
Thanks. It could all be just coincidence but there's something strange about the land even aside from the info on the gas lines. In both cases, both in Sandy Hook and in Monroe, the schools sit back off the road, down a side road and you can't get a look at the actual schools with Google street. Additionally, if you go to Spokeo and look at 345 and 375 Fan Hill Road where Chalk Middle and Fawn Hollow schools are supposed to be, residences are listed with home values. The 345 address is valued at 25.75 million dollars but is listed as having 3 residents, last names are listed. The 375 is also showing as residential property valued at 391K with residents listed.
When you look closely at the fire station at the bottom of Dickenson Drive, if you hover over it, it says "12 Dickenson Dr." The only sign for the elementary school is that small white sign at the bottom of that street. There are no bus stop signs or school crossing signs or slow, school signs.
The address for the fire station is listed as 18 Riverside Rd but when you try to search for that in Google maps, it points directly behind the station in the wooded area, not on the road.
If you look up schools on mapquest it shows Sandy Hook "12 Dickenson Dr." but points to the exact area where the sign is, not where the school actually sits.
None of the streets surrounding the schools (both in Sandy Hook and Monroe) can be viewed on Google maps (street option).
I think the structures are either old, abandoned schools or stations for the gas lines or structures created for FEMA training. It's hard to know. I believe the reason they had to create a new location to move the 400 (or is it 600?) kids is because if they didn't exist they couldn't place them in the other Newtown schools, which would have been the most logical thing to do, right?
Neither school has been filmed at all, no photos or camera crews.
All of the film crews, crowds of people, etc were around the fire station "staging area", no one was anywhere near the school.