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Great job sunshine. Did you catch where they "renamed" Chalk Middle Hill School to "Sandy Hook Elementary"? WHY would you carry over that name/association?? And there's a huge difference between Elementary & Middle schools!
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So this dude who effectively took alex jones behind the woodshed
Now he Is going to magically believe that this is a lone gunman
That the gubbermint is incable of killing 20 kids yet they have no problem murdering over 120,000 infants in Iraq.
That someone can lose their child And the whole family can be smiling with the president 96 hours later and the best you can muster up is said person is a "dick"
You need to hang up your patriot hat.....cause ya dont know shit.
It also was very telling that he effectively deconstructed AJ yet he would not call him a Agent Provacature and when others did pick that up
He releases another vid just calling AJ stupid.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
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I know, especially since they said they didn't even know what they were going to do with the original school. Plus, this is in a different town, to name it Sandy Hook is ridiculous. Not to mention that there would have been meetings and votes about changing the name. None of this makes sense.
It was also creepy how they said they planned to duplicate everything, same paint color, same pics on the walls, etc. Why? That would be like losing the family pet and trying to pass off a new one as the original. So weird. It doesn't even make sense. How does that in any way help the kids?
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It could be so there's an actual school to see? Not the "front" building they protrayed? Plus it keeps the legend alive?
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MNeagle
It could be so there's an actual school to see? Not the "front" building they protrayed? Plus it keeps the legend alive?
But we didn't get to see that one either. Well, they showed an image of what they claim is the school but that could be anything.
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I wish there was someone in that area that could check out the location. All that's available is a bunch videos with bad actors - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itX1AI8Z-nM
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Are you referring to the missile hitting the pentagon thing?
Before I click on any of the links, are any of them not ZCF?
Even though that 22 yr old kid might have correct info...I don't want hate site traffic on my internet connection.
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Twisted Titan
So this dude who effectively took alex jones behind the woodshed
Now he Is going to magically believe that this is a lone gunman
That the gubbermint is incable of killing 20 kids yet they have no problem murdering over 120,000 infants in Iraq.
That someone can lose their child And the whole family can be smiling with the president 96 hours later and the best you can muster up is said person is a "dick"
You need to hang up your patriot hat.....cause ya dont know shit.
It also was very telling that he effectively deconstructed AJ yet he would not call him a Agent Provacature and when others did pick that up
He releases another vid just calling AJ stupid.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
You're injecting information that is not there to suit what you want to believe. This is specifically what he's talking about.
How many people do you think are in on it? It would have to be hundreds of people. The kids aren't dead? The parents are actors? How insane is that?
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If the parents are acting (or staged actors)...where are the kids?
Teachers, friends, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, grandparents, cousins, neighbors?
They're all in on it?
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sunshine05
But we didn't get to see that one either. Well, they showed an image of what they claim is the school but that could be anything.
I'm not inclined to think it isn't a school. What I wondered when I first saw the school was that is looked like it wasn't an active school because it looked run down. Buildings get old and school buildings generally get used well beyond they're use by date in most cases so that's explainable. That the school was on the way out to make room for a gas pipeline is an interesting situation of itself.
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joboo
If the parents are acting (or staged actors)...where are the kids?
Teachers, friends, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, grandparents, cousins, neighbors?
They're all in on it?
Who said those are the names of kids that are actually dead? Little Joey Smith died, son of the Smiths of Newtown Ct. No address, contact phone number and no neighbors recognize the family - so what, right? They're being protected from paprazzi and media scrutiny by sheriff's deputies because the Feds care - right?
All the kids in little Joey's class - dead, teacher - dead, school records, video surveilance tapes - all sealed... We've allowed this bullshit since the OKC assault
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Who said those are the names of kids that are actually dead? Little Joey Smith died, son of the Smiths of Newtown Ct. No address, contact phone number and no neighbors recognize the family - so what, right? They're being protected from paprazzi and media scrutiny by sheriff's deputies because the Feds care - right?
So X number of kids died, their names are listed all over the place, and none of the teachers, parents, friends etc... etc... etc... would know anything about it, or realize it?
Do you think that is possible? If so, how?
Who went missing in the school? How does one cover that up?
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joboo
So X number of kids died, their names, and pictures are listed all over the place, and none of the teachers, parents, friends etc... etc... etc... would know anything about it, or realize it?
Do you think that is possible? If so, how?
Do you realize how easy it is to create a photo of a person with software? The parent actors are actors because they didn't really lose a child. The friends, aunts, uncles and grandparents - more actors. They aren't very good at it, probably because they aren't really actors. They could be people willing to do this in exchange for not serving time in prison or paying a lot of back taxes or they could just be government agents. There are many possibilities.
I don't know exactly how they do this but I can tell you that this incident isn't the first time I've seen signs of fake victims.
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sunshine05
Do you realize how easy it is to create a photo of a person with software? The parent actors are actors because they didn't really lose a child. The friends, aunts, uncles and grandparents - more actors. They aren't very good at it, probably because they aren't really actors. They could be people willing to do this in exchange for not serving time in prison or paying a lot of back taxes or they could just be government agents. There are many possibilities.
I don't know exactly how they do this but I can tell you that this incident isn't the first time I've seen signs of fake victims.
So you think everyone is just pretending. All those people?
Does that sound remotely logical to you?
So they didn't shoot the kids, just made them up, and convinced hundreds of people to go along with it?
Why go through all that extravagant fakery when you can just shoot?
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So how do you convince an entire school, and everyone connected to it, their friends disappeared when they didn't?
In the same regard, how do you prevent an entire school, and everyone connected to it, from realizing nobody is dead, or missing?
...and if they're missing, how do you get all those people to suddenly become actors, and never talk about it. Hundreds of people.
What kind of "op" would that be to think of doing?
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joboo
So X number of kids died, their names are listed all over the place, and none of the teachers, parents, friends etc... etc... etc... would know anything about it, or realize it?
Do you think that is possible? If so, how?
Who went missing in the school? How does one cover that up?
Do you personally know any of the victims? Yes or no?
Can you post one video with a neighbor discussing one of the victims in detail, as a close acquaintance or friend?
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mamboni
Do you personally know any of the victims? Yes or no?
Can you post one video with a neighbor discussing one of the victims in detail, as a close acquaintance or friend?
But that doesn't prove anything other than they weren't put on TV.
How is it possible to control that many people forever?
When coming up with an idea for an "op" would that seem realistic to you? An entire school, and all those connected to it?
Why bother to fake so many deaths, and hope out of hundreds of people nobody says anything?
Why not just do it?
Why bother to fake any of the deaths?
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joboo
But that doesn't prove anything other than they weren't put on TV.
How is it possible to control that many people forever?
When coming up with an idea for an "op" would that seem realistic to you? An entire school, and all those connected to it?
Why bother to fake so many deaths, and hope out of hundreds of people nobody says anything?
Why not just do it?
Why bother to fake any of the deaths?
Good, you admit to knowing nothing more about the shootings than what has been reported on the MSM. So you know nothing of fact and only MSM-approved info. In short, you know nothing of substance. So shut your piehole unless you have anything useful to add. A hypothesis, that shooting was a hoax, is being examined. As no one has seen a single victim's body, photos of the crime scene, and there is no eye witness to the purported shootings, and the victims are just photos on a TV screen, I say the hoax hypothesis remains viable until disproven.
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mamboni
Good, you admit to knowing nothing more about the shootings than what has been reported on the MSM. So you know nothing of fact and only MSM-approved info. In short, you know nothing of substance. So shut your piehole unless you have anything useful to add. A hypothesis, that shooting was a hoax, is being examined. As no one has seen a single victim's body, photos of the crime scene, and there is no eye witness to the purported shootings, and the victims are just photos on a TV screen, I say the hoax hypothesis remains viable until disproven.
It doesn't need to have anything to do with me.
If you can't logistically answer the questions what else is there?
If you can't use logic to deduce anything obvious, something is definitely wrong somewhere.
It would help if you were able to at least remain civil in the process of coming to a better understanding. If you're a doctor you should know this.
Do you think it's even possible to mind control an entire school, and everyone connected to it, is what it all boils down to.
That much is a given. It will never change if one was to believe the fakery hypothesis.
You simply can't toss away one reality to suit another.
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joboo
It doesn't need to have anything to do with me.
If you can't logistically answer the questions what else is there?
If you can't use logic to deduce anything obvious, something is definitely wrong somewhere.
It would help if you were able to at least remain civil in the process of coming to a better understanding. If you're a doctor you should know this.
Do you think it's even possible to mind control an entire school, and everyone connected to it, is what it all boils down to.
That much is a given. It will never change if one was to believe the fakery hypothesis.
You simply can't toss away one reality to suit another.
What do you know about the school, or the community? You don't know what is happening on the ground. Stop constructing a massive strawman of naysaying.
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jooboi, please stop the with statist based argument. Thanks
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joboo
But that doesn't prove anything other than they weren't put on TV.
How is it possible to control that many people forever?
When coming up with an idea for an "op" would that seem realistic to you? An entire school, and all those connected to it?
Why bother to fake so many deaths, and hope out of hundreds of people nobody says anything?
Why not just do it?
Why bother to fake any of the deaths?
"They" need a lot of help to pull off these things. If people believe no one will get hurt, don't you think they will be more inclined to help? This is just like Operation Northwoods.
I posted a few pages back about the association of one of the victim's fundraisers to the film industry. They clearly have a globalist agenda. Some people will go along with anything if they believe it will further their agenda. There is still a lot of research to be done but follow the money. If you look at where the donations are going you can get a clearer picture of who is behind these events.
I can't answer all of the questions about how exactly they do it, but you are under the impression that all of these people disappeared and the others just go along with it. What if the school was set up so that everyone didn't know every student in the school. I mean, some of the teachers who allegedly died weren't even listed as school staff. I don't think any of them were listed except for the psychologist.
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mamboni
What do you know about the school, or the community? You don't know what is happening on the ground. Stop constructing a massive strawman of naysaying.
So then do you think the entire school, and community is in on it?
Certain factors of reality remain constant despite the details of what the media has told you.
That is not naysing, or "massive strawman".
A certain level of common sense has to be addressed when coming to a conclusion. Don't you think?
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Could be the "one" that got away lead to many of the others getting involuntarily "placed" in the witness protection program.
How they might become some sacrificial lambs at satanic rituals later on remains unseen.
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sunshine05
"They" need a lot of help to pull off these things. If people believe no one will get hurt, don't you think they will be more inclined to help? This is just like Operation Northwoods.
I posted a few pages back about the association of one of the victim's fundraisers to the film industry. They clearly have a globalist agenda. Some people will go along with anything if they believe it will further their agenda. There is still a lot of research to be done but follow the money. If you look at where the donations are going you can get a clearer picture of who is behind these events.
I can't answer all of the questions about how exactly they do it, but you are under the impression that all of these people disappeared and the others just go along with it. What if the school was set up so that everyone didn't know every student in the school. I mean, some of the teachers who allegedly died weren't even listed as school staff. I don't think any of them were listed except for the psychologist.
That all sounds good, but it does nothing to come to terms with the reality of where are the kids, and how does one mind control an entire community over missing children.
Where are they? Are they still there? If they put actors in, how could nobody notice those aren't the parents? It can't be both ways.
This are daily living realities that transcend any kind of possible mind control scenario.
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joboo
that all sounds good, but it does nothing to come to terms with the reality of where are the kids, and how does one mind control an entire community over missing children.
Where are they? Are they still there? If they put actors in, how could nobody notice those aren't the parents? It can't be both ways.
This are daily living realities that transcend any kind of possible mind control scenario.
dhs?
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Probably not a good idea to hotlink that site from here.
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joboo
That all sounds good, but it does nothing to come to terms with the reality of where are the kids, and how does one mind control an entire community over missing children.
Where are they? Are they still there? If they put actors in, how could nobody notice those aren't the parents? It can't be both ways.
This are daily living realities that transcend any kind of possible mind control scenario.
This will be my last reply because I'm repeating myself at this point. There are NO dead kids so there is nothing to hide. The parents are actors. Until I see evidence to convince me otherwise, that is what I believe.
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sunshine05
This will be my last reply because I'm repeating myself at this point. There are NO dead kids so there is nothing to hide. The parents are actors. Until I see evidence to convince me otherwise, that is what I believe.
You're talking about mind controlling an entire community with no solid proof whatsoever to come to that conclusion.
You realize that thought process is insane right?
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joboo
Probably not a good idea to hotlink that site from here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBb_3p4vasY
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Santa
Fuck! What an asshole!
Yeah, that was really unfathomable.
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joboo
You're talking about mind controlling an entire community with no solid proof whatsoever to come to that conclusion.
You realize that thought process is insane right?
I guess the question is, how big is this school community? And I'm talking only about the school and it's catchment area. Not the whole of the surrounding township. For example, I live in a city of about 2.5 million people. There are thousands of primary schools and I don't know any of them other than maybe the ones I went to or the ones that get in the news because they have special ability students or something.
Anyway, there have been interviews with kids who were in the building and came out. We could assume they were students from that school or maybe there was a drill on that day and the kids were shipped in from another school. Getting a bit far fetched. Did anyone ask the kids if this was their regular school or did everyone assume that's their regular school. No one thought of it at the time. It's a bit far fetched.
I remember seeing wellaware1's presentation on the actors specifically in this event. I think he dug up some people who you could reasonably say were the actual people interviewed as parents of kids at the school when it seems on his info, that these same people had appeared in interviews at other tragic shootings as parents of the victims in those events.
Caveat: some of wellaware1's stuff looks compelling in maybe 3 events like these BUT some of his stuff is clearly not supportable. The winkler claim for instance.
But the claims about the Ryans really being members of the Greenberg Family and having appeared previously on TV as parents of victims seems pretty solid. The claim that Mrs Ryan is the attorney for the Aurora shooting is not supportable. The women look extremely alike but I think there maybe 10 years age difference. Nothing to say the could not be sibblings. Just nothing supporting this ATM.
Someone posted a video earlier with a local resident and he was saying that no one knows these children shown as killed during this event. He says, well people come and go, (when the kids reach grade 5 they have to go to anther school), so it's possible people might leave the area when that happens but he says, these families are not here (in the community) and he doesn't know where they are or why they are not there.
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Some sites have it as a policy. It draws attention unnecessarily. Why roll out the red carpet right to the dinner plate is the thought process. i.e. why make it easier for those orgs to collect the data they are specifically looking for.
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Glass
I guess the question is, how big is this school community? And I'm talking only about the school and it's catchment area. Not the whole of the surrounding township. For example, I live in a city of about 2.5 million people. There are thousands of primary schools and I don't know any of them other than maybe the ones I went to or the ones that get in the news because they have special ability students or something.
Anyway, there have been interviews with kids who were in the building and came out. We could assume they were students from that school or maybe there was a drill on that day and the kids were shipped in from another school. Getting a bit far fetched. Did anyone ask the kids if this was their regular school or did everyone assume that's their regular school. No one thought of it at the time. It's a bit far fetched.
I remember seeing wellaware1's presentation on the actors specifically in this event. I think he dug up some people who you could reasonably say were the actual people interviewed as parents of kids at the school when it seems on his info, that these same people had appeared in interviews at other tragic shootings as parents of the victims in those events.
Caveat: some of wellaware1's stuff looks compelling in maybe 3 events like these BUT some of his stuff is clearly not supportable. The winkler claim for instance.
But the claims about the Ryans really being members of the Greenberg Family and having appeared previously on TV as parents of victims seems pretty solid. The claim that Mrs Ryan is the attorney for the Aurora shooting is not supportable. The women look extremely alike but I think there maybe 10 years age difference. Nothing to say the could not be sibblings. Just nothing supporting this ATM.
Someone posted a video earlier with a local resident and he was saying that no one knows these children shown as killed during this event. He says, well people come and go, (when the kids reach grade 5 they have to go to anther school), so it's possible people might leave the area when that happens but he says, these families are not here (in the community) and he doesn't know where they are or why they are not there.
If you're going to pull something like that off, why bother to fake anything, and hope it sticks across hundreds, or more, people?
It's not only impossible to do, it's crazy to even try, and think you can.
Why not just actually do it, and deal with maybe a dozen people?
All this talk about actors, kids being alive, and the entire family, friends, relatives all needing to be in on it...it's so far out there it simply fell off the edge into the abyss.
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joboo
Some sites have it as a policy. It draws attention unnecessarily. Why roll out the red carpet right to the dinner plate is the thought process. i.e. why make it easier for those orgs to collect the data they are specifically looking for.
You're not getting promoted to head surgeon, Joe!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnx95KyQEAA
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ADL/SPLC have tasked their mole to scuttle this thread. This is most encouraging - we must be moving in the right direction vis-a-vis the hoax hypothesis.