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Shami-Amourae
Well it's good he's turning in a martyr.
Looks like he died for something after all then.
He died fighting for your rights and his belief in the Constitution
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monty
He died fighting for your rights and his belief in the Constitution
:rolleyes:
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Military-Industrial Complex
Military-industrial complex is a term mainly used in the US that refers to a web of complex relationships between the Pentagon (armed forces) and those who support the vast armaments of the US military machine – legislators, lobbyists, overseers, procurers and, of course, the corporate players that profit from Pentagon military procurement and actively lobby for more of it.
The evolution of this machinery unfortunately leads to war itself and is one reason why the US in particular has been engaged in a series of inconclusive wars for much of the 20th and all of the 21st century. It is only by pursuing war and the armaments thereof that the military-industrial complex can perpetuate itself, justify its existence and continue to turn a profit.
Taxpayer dollars and the Federal Reserve fund the military-industrial complex. By some estimates, the military-industrial complex accounts for half or more of all federal-government spending – some US$1.5 trillion a year. It is difficult to gain a full understanding of the breadth and depth of the money involved in the military-industrial complex because so much of it is hidden in secrecy or kept from public view by being "classified."
The term "military-industrial complex" was made famous by President Dwight D. Eisenhower who used it in his farewell address to the nation, January 17, 1961. He said, "A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction ... Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex."
Because of the gravity of the warning and Eisenhower's own bona fides as the nation's top military man, his cautionary note was taken most seriously and the term entered the popular lexicon. The actual speechwriters were Ralph E. Williams and Malcolm Moos. Interestingly, the term was used long before Eisenhower made it popular and can be found as far back as 1947 in an article by Winfield W. Riefler in Foreign Affairs magazine.
That the term would first appear in the power elite mouthpiece Foreign Affairs is probably no coincidence. Presidential addresses, especially final ones of popular 20th century presidents, were consequential. It is highly unlikely that Eisenhower would have used the term without some sort of consensus regarding the nomenclature from the powers-that-be.
One theory that comes to mind is that the emergence of the military-industrial complex was becoming undeniable post-World War II. Rather than let a term such as the "military-industrial-congressional complex" (apparently an alternative nomenclature) complex enter the lexicon, those who concern themselves with elements of sociopolitical vocabulary decided to pre-empt the conversation by providing the name as Eisenhower used it. This placed the onus on corporate America, in part, which is where the power elite wishes blame to go on a regular basis. Whatever is evil can be attributed to the private sector, further weakening its credibility and building up the credibility of the public venue, thus advancing regulatory democracy.
In the case of the term military-industrial complex, the description is fairly fitting. America's largest corporations function as a kind of adjunct of the larger American government at this time. The entire "complex" is almost one and the same; and one could argue that the military-industrial complex has widened its embrace to include a formidable intelligence-industrial complex as well. The presence of these interlocking military, corporate and legislative interests is one of the more unfortunate and even disheartening evolutions of modern American society. Sadly, it appears as if only the nation's inevitable bankruptcy will break the grip of this interlocking grid of mercantilist and militaristic interests.
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Was Harry Reid involved in the Bundy Ranch Debacle? Sorting through the Rumors & Disinformation
| http://d3cced9h6ghzi5.cloudfront.net.../picture-1.pngSCG a look back at who rule the FBI had been attempting to investigate Harry Reid on unrelated corruption charges, but they were blocked by the Department of Justice
The purpose of this video is to sort through the tangled web of information and rumors circulating regarding the questions of corruption and Harry Reid's involvement in the Bundy Ranch showdown. We will also address a error in our previous video on the topic "Bundy Ranch - What You're Not Being Told".
UPDATE: It turns out that the law firm that Harry Reid's son works for, Lionel, Sawyer and Collins, is in fact the legal representative for First Solar.
The purpose of this video is to sort through the tangled web of information and rumors circulating regarding the questions of corruption and Harry Reid's involvement in the Bundy Ranch showdown. We will also address an error in our previous video on the topic.
Alright so there was this article that claimed that the siege of the Bundy ranch was about was really about fracking leases. It referred to this article on shalereporter.com which actually referred to land sold in Eastern Nevada, and Clark county isn't in Eastern Nevada, so that's clearly not the same land. At this point the author has to be aware of this mistake. Leaving it up like this without correcting the mistake is really bad. I'm still having people send me this.
We had some unsubstantiated rumors claiming that "There are developers working for military contractors that want that land and water for mining weapons grade minerals for industry... they want to sell the land by the highway for real estate development because it's close to I-15". Again this claim isn't even coherent. Military contractors like blackwater don't buy land for mining.
Now for the troublesome story. That the showdown in Nevada was really about an underhanded business deal involving Senator Harry Reid, his son, the BLM and a 5 billion dollar solar energy plant.
The first source we referred to was Reuters August 21, 2012, which does indeed go into the details of a shady business deal involving ENN energy that Harry worked to push through. This is a reputable source, and it tells us a lot about how Senator Reid operates. Just one problem: the project fell through in 2013. ENN isn't in the game anymore.
However there still several issues here that remain. We have the web page that was taken down from the BLM website and which someone quickly deleted from google's cache. This webpage mentions that the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone's mitigation strategy as one of the justifications for seizing Cliven Bundy's cattle. You also have the fact that the current head of the BLM, Neil Kornze, is Harry Reid's former adviser and as the Senate majority leader directly participated in his confirmation, and to make things even more interesting we have the fact that it was revealed this past week that the FBI had been attempting to investigate Harry Reid on unrelated corruption charges, but they were blocked by the Department of Justice.
We also know from this article from the LA Times that Harry Reid has a long history of finding creative ways to funnel money towards family members, and we have the well documented case of his attempt to push the ENN project through for his son Rory Reid via Reuters. So the question isn't really whether Harry Reid is corrupt, the question is whether he had a hand in the Bundy ranch debacle.
Now there are some people who have formulated an alternative explanation tying Reid to the BLM's move against the Bundys.
That the standoff is about solar-industry crony capitalism, but just not ENN.
That narrative revolves around a company called First Solar. First Solar is running quite a few solar projects in Nevada, one which is planned for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone. The company apparently has been heavily subsidized by the Department of Energy, there was a scandal when a CEO from First Solar sold off 450 million in the company's stock even though the company was floundering miserably (Reuters claimed a lower number than Rep. Mike Kelly), and one of it's top executives James Hughes (aka Jim Hughes) just happens to be one of the unindicted conspirators in the Enron case. First Solar seems to be a questionable company, but how all this is supposed to connect to the Bundy case is very, very blurry.
Now on March 6th, the environmental advocacy group Defenders of Wildlife filed a lawsuit suit against Neil Kornze, head of the Bureau of Land Management for his role in pushing through two massive solar projects that they say is going to devastate the tortoise habitat. According to an assessment released by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in 2013, the two projects, which are owned by First Solar, are expected to displace, injure, or kill up to 2,115 federally Threatened desert tortoises. So while the BLM is attempting to claim environmental concerns to push the Bundy's off the land they've fast tracked projects that literally raze the desert completely destroying all wildlife.
That information is interesting, but it doesn't prove that Kornze made the decision due to a conflict of interest, and it doesn't prove that Harry Reid was involved.
UPDATE: It turns out that the law firm that Harry Reid's son works for, Lionel, Sawyer and Collins, is in fact the legal representative for First Solar.
If we had strong evidence connecting Harry Reid to First Solar then we might have a case, but no one has posted any hard evidence tying Reid to First Solar financially as far as I know. There are some who have pointed to a small campaign donation that one of the executives of First Solar made to Reid some years back, but that claim wasn't very well sourced, and even if it was it would be very hard to make the case that this would be enough to drive Reid to pit the BLM on the Bundys years later. Others have posted this article showing Reid in a ground breaking ceremony for the Moapa Paiute Solar project, but that doesn't mean anything. Participating in a ground breaking ceremony for a project like that is normal for a Senator.
It may very well be that if we could look at Reid's financial statements, investments and the investments of his family members we might find something. Unfortunately the public no longer has access to that information online. We don't have access to that information because of a law which Harry Reid himself introduced. The bill (S.716), which was passed on April 15, 2013 modified the STOCK Act repealing the requirement for the congress and executive branch employees to post their financial disclosures online where they could be read by the public. https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s716
It may be a total coincidence, but it's interesting to note that Harry Reid passed this law after the scandal regarding his son's stake in the ENN project, and right before the ENN officially backed out.
I'm sure we would have learned all sorts of interesting things if the FBI corruption probe into Harry Reid's dealings hadn't been blocked by the Department of Justice. It's important to be clear here though that it may be that if they investigate him it is possible that they would turn up all sorts of dirty laundry, but nothing that relates to this situation. We can't know that, and we shouldn't make assumptions.
So was Harry Reid the man behind the Bundy ranch crackdown? I don't know, and I'm not going to pretend that I know unless I see solid evidence one way or another. If you have evidence you're welcome to send it to us on our facebook page or on twitter, and we'll look at it.
Now some people were angry with me for taking down the last video. Some claimed I was cowering to these guys or that I was being threatened by someone, or intimidated. Listen, I know that makes better television, and it's less humbling than having to admit a mistake but it's just not true. No one sent me any threats on this particular issue and even if they had I don't bow to those kinds of tactics. I do however bow to reality. No one ever wins a fight against reality. You might think you win, but you actually just become delusional. So if someone shows me evidence that destroys one my arguments, then I must change my stance. Period. I don't view that as optional, especially if you're dealing with information that's being spread to the public. Because if you don't correct yourself, there's a lot of people that are going to assume that the false information is correct.
That's what the mainstream media does. They get things dead wrong all the time and rarely corrects themselves. In fact more often than not they build on their faulty information and keep referring back to it as fact.
A good example is sarin gas attacks in Syria. We have the U.N. investigator Carla Del Ponte who went public saying that the evidence they found indicated that it was the rebels behind the attacks and that there was no evidence whatsoever that the Syrian government was involved and yet you'll still see Western politicians and the mainstream media referring to that attack as a justification for measures against Assad.
Unfortunately the alternative media has a really bad habit of doing the same thing. For example this article which originally went viral covering the Reid connection hasn't been taken down or corrected even though the authors are fully aware that the ENN project has been shelved. We know that they are aware of that fact due to another article they posted mentioning this fact. The article claiming that this was all about fracking leases is still up as well, and hasn't been updated.
People are still linking to these articles as evidence, people are still sending this stuff to their friends. That's really bad.
If we get something wrong we have to take it down otherwise we're spreading disinformation, and we can't just take it down and pretend like nothing happened, because if you do there are going to be people that didn't notice that you took and down and are going to continue spreading the wrong information.
We can't compete with the big corporations in terms of budget and equipment, all we he have going for us is our commitment to telling the truth. If we lose that we have nothing.
Note: I wish I could have gotten this correction up sooner, but my daughter had a stomach bug and that disrupted our schedule significantly last week.
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this YT query https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...inicum+funeral has lots to choose from, and more will be popping up constantly. I'm just beginning to check a few out now.
this top hit at the moment is posted by YT'er Spiro who is often guest on host Robert Reyvolt's show, including this Feb 1 show, Incendiary Radio: Spiro & Dr. Fetzer – Discussing Despotism & Deception.
20 mins;
edit: this one's pretty boring, a stream of people standing around; no press conference or anything. :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlVRxo5PtmY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlVRxo5PtmY
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Jewboo
:rolleyes:
What's wrong with that?
Old man goes out fighting heroically for the Constitution/Republic.
He gets to die a hero in the hearts of people. That's fucking badass Viking style shit.
I'm about to die anyway, fuck it, I'm going down a hero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC43IO5TW8M
If I'm going to die, I sure as fuck want to go out with a bang instead of a whimper.
Do you want to die alone, and forgotten where no one knows you're dead until you're rotting corpse is discovered by someone 3 months later?
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Jewboo
:rolleyes:
LaVoy preferred dying on his feet over living on his knees, whereas *some* prefer life on their knees worshiping the beast and collecting their SS 'entitlement'.
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Key supporters of the Oregon militia, such as retired American Major General Paul Vallely, former head of Psychological Warfare Operations, is a big supporter of these movements as are his invisible backers. Vallely has also repeatedly traveled illegally to Syria as has Senator John McCain, to meet with “moderate rebels,” including Baghdadi who now heads ISIS.
In fact, the power right wing oligarchs that support the Oregon “occupation” also support presidential candidates like Ted Cruz and JEB Bush, pouring millions into the coffers. They also support Israel’s occupation of Arab territories, the war in Yemen, the coup in Kiev and have long advocated a war on Iran despite the recent nuclear settlement.http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/02...-police-state/
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mick silver
Key supporters of the Oregon militia, such as retired American Major General Paul Vallely, former head of Psychological Warfare Operations, is a big supporter of these movements as are his invisible backers. Vallely has also repeatedly traveled illegally to Syria as has Senator John McCain, to meet with “moderate rebels,” including Baghdadi who now heads ISIS.
In fact, the power right wing oligarchs that support the Oregon “occupation” also support presidential candidates like Ted Cruz and JEB Bush, pouring millions into the coffers. They also support Israel’s occupation of Arab territories, the war in Yemen, the coup in Kiev and have long advocated a war on Iran despite the recent nuclear settlement.
Where did you find this?
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Cliven Bundy pays tribute to LaVoy Finicum
http://youtu.be/soOvND5vEco
One Cowboy's Stand for feedom
http://youtu.be/EKVzbmT5jYw
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I came across this video that's a different view of the funeral procession than MR posted. There are funeral processions like this where I live sometimes when cowboys or old ranchers die.
Their horses are saddled and led riderless by their friends and neighbors for their last ride with them from the church to the cemetery.
There's a local funeral home here where I live that also has a horse drawn carriage that is often used for these processions.
Sounds like there were 2 to 3 thousand people gathered here that feel a lot of hostility for the government and what they did. I don't think this is over yet.
Thought I'd edit to add that I didn't see monty had posted this video until I hit the submit button.
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February 5, 2016 How the Bundy Gang Won
by George Wuerthner by
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One consequence of the Bundy Gang take-over of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in central Oregon has been the abundant media attention to their assertions of government “overreach” and “aggressive enforcement“ of environmental regulations that according to Bundy and Gang has driven ranchers, miners, and loggers from the land. Unfortunately, the media have been slow to counter such assertions.
The reality on the ground is much different from the delusional version put forth by Ammon Bundy and militant associates. Most federal and state agencies are lax in their enforcement of environmental regulations. Though many local people in Harney County, where the Malheur Refuge is located, decry the use of armed intimidation and threats, a sizeable minority or perhaps even majority agrees with the Bundy gang assertions that local people should control management of these public lands.
The irony of such claims is that local people already have a disproportional control and influence on national public lands. They can attend meetings, go on field trips, communicate their views through local media and use their connections with local and higher level politicians to promote their economic and other interests.
If they disapprove of federal management activities, local people often exercise social manipulation against federal administrators. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and Forest Service (FS) managers and staff that live in rural areas. Federal employees, like people everywhere, want to be accepted in their local communities. Any manager or staff who initiates management action that upsets the local people or local business interests like ranchers, miners, or loggers, will quickly find themselves socially isolated, their kids mocked or verbally abused in local schools, and at times employees and/or their families are even subject to physical violence or death threats.
I fear that in the aftermath of the Malheur event, no matter how it is resolved, we will see federal administers even more “cowed” by local hostility to national interests. What BLM or FS manager will be willing to restrict or otherwise control activities that damage public resources if he/she knows that local communities like Burns, Oregon, as well as county, state and sometimes even Congressional members are opposed to the laws or regulations these agencies are supposed to uphold?
Several years ago a friend of mine, who is high up in the BLM, attended a meeting of BLM state directors and district managers convened by Department of Interior lawyers. The purpose of the meeting was to inform the managers that Department of Interior legal teams were losing law suits over and over because they, the people on the ground, were continuously violating the law. The lawyers were young and naïve. They thought, according to my friend, that they were telling these managers something they did not know. The BLM field staff sat stoically, with arms crossed, and listened.
Finally one of them quipped, “Yes, I know I am violating the laws. I do it all the time. You know why? Because if I followed the law I’d have every county commissioner, state legislator, the governor and the state Congressional delegation on my ass–and you know what? You’re not paying me enough to take that kind of abuse.”
Then another BLM manager followed up and said, “I don’t follow the law either. I count on being sued by the environmentalists, so that I can tell the delegation or the loggers or the ranchers that I had no choice in the matter. The court is telling me I must do this.” He went on to acknowledge that unless he was sued and had that political cover, he would not enforce the law.
According to my friend, there were a lot of other people in the room nodding their heads in agreement.
With the recent empowerment of militant groups around the West, particularly militants with guns and other weapons, what rational field manager, especially one living in a small rural community is going to challenge the local “custom and culture?” As one of the field managers said, “You’re not paying me enough.” And indeed, we are not.
If I were a BLM or FS official, I would be loath to challenge a rancher or a miner using public resources. To do so may invite an armed occupation or worse. And those employees know that it’s easier and far less dangerous to simply overlook violations and to avoid enforcement actions, except perhaps in most egregious abuses.
Unless these field managers get strong backing from the highest levels of the administration, we are not likely to see this change. However, instead of standing up to the local bullies, usually, it seems the general policy has been of appeasement.
A good example occurred recently in Nevada when the BLM backed down from throwing Cliven Bundy in jail for failure to pay fines, resisting and interfering with government employees attempting to capture his trespass cattle. Bundy remains a free man, and worse his cattle are still ravaging our public domain.
Even after the Cliven Bundy debacle, the BLM backed down again in another northern Nevada incident. Because of the long drought that has engulfed much of Nevada, the BLM closed some areas to further grazing destruction. Ranchers in the Elko area intimated the local BLM officials. In this they were aided and abetted by Senator Dean Heller and Congressman Mark Amodei who cheered them on. The ranchers even denied there was a drought—though that did not stop them from receiving profligate federal drought disaster relief payments.
In the end the BLM caved. Not only did they reinstate grazing to the detriment of our public lands, but John Ruhs, a cowboy friendly BLM manager who negotiated the reversal in grazing management, was appointed the Nevada state director.
Unfortunately such incidents are not isolated, and such intimidation and accommodation has occurred for years.
In the aftermath of the Malheur stand-off, we will see more capitulation to local control and our public patrimony will suffer accordingly. We may remain the “owners” of these federal lands in name, but the defacto control will shift even more towards local economic and political interests. No matter what legal consequences the Bundy Gang suffers, they have succeeded in advancing their agenda of increasing local control of our public lands.
George Wuerthner has published 36 books including Wildfire: A Century of Failed Forest Policy. He serves on the board of the Western Watersheds Project.
More articles by:George Wuerthner
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This video is a really good interview of Chris Briles the Fire Chief that quit when he saw the corruption in Burns. It's long but it's a really good look at what has been going on there from the point of view of a local. He exposes what the FBI has been doing and also the Sheriff and Deputies. Lots of good information here all the way through that has the ring of truth.
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i smell another okc in 2016 -- pinned on evil constitutionalists/militias/right-wing extremists
the religion of hate REALLY hates salt of the earth types
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JOOboo's crashed my Thread: UC Davis prof teaching students about weaponized PC, NWO, whining about some inane grievance he has about my choice of writing style being out of compliance with his wishes, beginning with his reply #12.
He reminded me of how terrific it will be when he finally stops bobbing, weaving, tap dancing & JOO-Jitsu-ing; and he simply sources his claim below.
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Jewboo
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I'm most interested to see your source for saying the 13%-ers were there only "for a few hours"
Ok Mr. Passive Agressive Guy. Post proof that the 3 Percenters stayed longer.
While he's at it, he can also explain to the group his otherwise bewildering worship of his beloved talmudic state.
Below I'll paste my reply #15 from that UC Davis thread, so that everyone can be on the same page as to where things stand.
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Jewboo
My point is that you always typing "joosh" when talking about the JEW isn't discussing it openly either.
coward just like Dr. Tracy
Seriously JOOboo?! I've been exclusively calling them "JOO/JOOZ/DJOOZ/DAJOOZ/JOOSH/JOODEO" all these years, and you've JUST NOW decided to get your panties in a bunch over it?
Or perhaps fred/phoenix/crimethink/SACRED HONOR GUYhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 has painfully jammed his fist up your ass and he's commandeered your GSUS postings?
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post745228
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PatColo
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crimethink http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/b...post-right.png
Only a Jewish shill would continue to use euphemisms that are
employed to ridicule pro-Goy activists. "Joo," "Jooz," and "Joosh" are Kosher slapstick terminology making fun of Goyim that dare to name
the Jew, who are exposing his strategies & tactics. I've dealt with this maneuver for 20 years. By making a joke out of a deadly serious topic, the Jewish shill reinforces the meme that "anti-Semitism" is "silly," "stupid," or "insane."
Obviously "...employed to ridicule pro-Goy activists" in your warped ~28 posts/day internet badazz mind-- but for normal people, "joo" etc pokes fun at the Khazarian imposter-Israelites who've kikejacked the reigns of world power today, and are steering us towards their satanic JOO World Order. You won't catch me referring to them as "Jews" or even the Biblical term "Israelites."
I can, and often do "Name the JOO", to wit:
crimethink; SACRED HONOR GUY; Internet-Badazz; Internet-Tough-Guy....
So you seriously have no "higher calling" here at GSUS than reducing yourself to SACRED HONOR GUY'shttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 level, JOOboo? You know, like maybe working harder trying to demoralize GSUS readers in the Oregon/Finicum-Murder thread, and encouraging us to join you on your hands & knees worshiping your beloved talmudic-state; your bare ass in the air with a "KOSHER CUSTOMERS WELCOME!!" sign on it?
Like HERE (#381) where you said we "can't ignore what is written"; referring to some fake 'defeatist comment' made by an anon jooz.gov social media astroturfer, to which you added, "Fact is, there isn't much real sympathy for those guys out there."
Or like HERE (#393) where you sought to dis-characterize the length of time the Idaho 3%-ers were on the scene in OR; then when I requested your source (#395), you tap danced around that simple question HERE (#397), and again HERE (#402); and then your Grand Kosher Finale HERE (#425) where you busted a more advanced JOOjitsu move, hoping to dodge my question again by 'answering a question with a question', asking ME to 'prove a negative' instead. :(
"Our talmudic 'book' AKA JOOboo is disrupting GSUS by attacking
other members over the inane non-issue of what name to call us;
meanwhile hoping they're distracted from noticing how he's trying to
steer their primitive goy minds towards our satanic JWO agenda, LOL!"
http://www.matrixfiles.com/CB/public/Sharon_Peres.jpg
"I know, RIGHT??
heh, heh heh, heh..."
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PatColo
:rolleyes: sorry guys
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Tumbleweed
This video is a really good interview of Chris Briles the Fire Chief that quit when he saw the corruption in Burns. It's long but it's a really good look at what has been going on there from the point of view of a local. He exposes what the FBI has been doing and also the Sheriff and Deputies. Lots of good information here all the way through that has the ring of truth.
bump
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JOOboo
Wow guys :o, JOOboo's mea culpa there ^ seems pretty darn sincere! --H H--
Whooduh thunk we'd ever see such honesty, such contrition, such magnanimity, from JOOboo?! :(??
anyways, I set up his own dedicated playpen now:
Thread: JOOboo joospews about dajooz and why everyone must be in compliance.
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Chris Briels interview, may be similar to previous. I haven't watched it.
http://youtu.be/ocBp0fp6eHk
Youtube link: http://youtu.be/ocBp0fp6eHk
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Here's a audio of a reporter from Nebraska that has been to Burns and observed what's going on in the area. It's interesting and also worrisome what she reports.
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Lavoys daughters speak about their dad and his murder.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKTP1krsNIc
What part of the Constitution allows these yahoos to steal vehicles? Patriots, really?
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Remaining Oregon occupiers reduced to pranky stunts
The pranky stunt illustrated how far the occupation, once led by brawny Marlboro-man lookalikes, has fallen. The defiant videos, nearly a dozen of which have been posted by Fry and two of his fellow holdouts in the past two days, also betray signs of the occupiers’ increasing isolation and aimlessness.
In one, Fry suggests he has nothing better to do than to ride a four-wheeler around the refuge and troll federal officials. In another, Sean and Sandy Anderson, a married couple from Riggins, Idaho, bemoan the fact that they missed a deadline to leave the refuge.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...deral-vehicle/
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Yep, The Oregon Standoff Is Still Going -- And If Anything It's Getting Weirder
In one message, Fry called those who reportedly disrupted a make-shift memorial site for Finicum “trash” and said, “It’s time that the good people stand up, bear arms and tell all these evil trash people to piss off.”
He also signaled the need for more support for those within the refuge, as “supplies aren’t unlimited.”
“How much longer are the American people going to sit here and wait and let the FBI snuff people like us out?” Fry said. “We are out here making a stand.”
In another video -- titled “Shove your charges where the sun dont [sic] shine!” -- Fry shows off the federal property his group has hijacked, and takes a vehicle owned by the government for a “joy ride.”
“We are going to use every resource we have here. And I think we have every right to do that,” he said.
Another video features Sean and Sandy Anderson, a husband-wife duo who remain at the refuge and claim they are being “held hostage” because they now face criminal charges.
“The rest of them have felonies, that’s not going to make us want to go home any sooner," Sean said.
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What part of the Constitution allows these yahoos to steal vehicles? Patriots, really?
This is why governments consider Public Schools a resounding success..........
No critical thinking skills, and if you asked this moron where in the Constitution it gives the government permission to own state land you'll get nothing from him.
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the daughters really got to me...and probably others too
as sympathy for their cause grows = increase the chance of false flag - to get people's minds right
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"They thumbed their noses at law enforcement and we just can't allow that." --what a cop told me regarding the Mt. Carmel massacre which included the premeditated murdering of children
These four are going to die soon, unfortunately. An example will be set. Some just are unable to learn from history.
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There’s Something Strange Happening Here In Burns, Oregon…
February 9, 2016/in Uncategorized /by Belinda Bee
Posted By Becky on Feb 7, 2016 ~ Written by Diane Rodgers
We captured this article from TVOI News – Voice of Idaho before it disappeared! When we went to look for the article we noticed it was in “cache” form only, meaning that someone has taken the website & article down. So we have cut & pasted the article here, word for word, including pics & links, for future reference.
Feb. 7, 2016
About two years ago the Nation watched as Cliven Bundy stood in opposition against an unjust seizure of his ranch and grazing rights by the BLM. The event grew as patriotic Americans responded and came to his aid. The growing protest was ultimately successful in forcing the BLM to turn tail and retreat in face of the growing support that they could no longer control.
Fast forward now to January 2, 2016 and we have a similar situation with the BLM in small town out west called Burns, Oregon.
Since the start of this protest, the MainStream Media (MSM) has been putting forth articles and news reports using such adjectives as “armed militants”, “right wing racists”, “terrorists” or “armed thugs”. Every story I read or listened to was basically the same, always one sided. I follow the belief that there are 3 sides to every story; you could call it her side, his side and the Truth. So when only one side is ever told, it is safe to assume that there is an agenda afoot. An agenda the MSM never speaks about.
So in my quest to get to the Truth, I decided to take an eight day vacation from my full time job to travel 3,000 miles via plane and car to that small town out west call Burns. What you are about to read is exactly what I witnessed and learned from my westward trip. I hope that this article, and those to follow, will help you see through the smokescreen of lies the media, at the bequest of our federal government , have been and are still telling us as the means to controlling the narrative.
Contrary to the MSM stories one finds on the situation in Burns Oregon, the real terrorists in Burns Oregon are not the farmers, ranchers or loggers, nor are they the patriotic first responders.
The farmers, ranchers and loggers are salt of the earth people. They are hardworking folks who bust their butts every day to earn a living as many of us do on a daily basis.
The Patriotic first responders; men and women who have left behind their lives, families, friends and jobs in order to come to Burns to bring attention to the illegal land grabs and the usurpation of our Constitution. These people present no threat to the people of Burns as evidenced by the fact that they frequent the local stores, shops, restaurants and bars without any issues.
At first glance, it is easy to accept the media story that Sheriff David Ward invited the FBI to take over local control of the situation to help protect the citizens of Burns Oregon from a band of “armed occupiers”. But that is for another article. So let’s take a closer look at several key issues that most may not be seeing.
In past decades whenever there was a civil protest it was customary for the local police and maybe the use of the state police to control and insure that the protest remains peaceful. During the protests of the late 60’s when demonstration began turning violent, State’s at the request of their Governors started to call in the National Guard to assist the police in maintaining order and protecting the public.
The question to ask is why didn’t Oregon Governor, Kate Brown, in accordance with Title 32 of the United States Code, call for the Oregon National Guard to assist in any local police action in response to the “armed occupiers” at the Malheur Refuge. Could it be that Gov. Kate Brown was appointed to her position, not elected by the People of her State, as was Sheriff David Ward of Harney County? Could it be that these appointed officials are beholden, not the good People of Oregon, but strictly to those entities that placed them in their position and power. Another unusual fact is that Special Agent Greg Bretzing in charge of the Malhuer Refuge Occupation happens to be linked to a Nation Security breach along with other fraud and corruption violation, as reported by The Shasta Lantern. Click here to view that article.
But, here in Burns the situation is much different and potentially much more ominous and deadly, as evidenced by the murder of LaVoy Finicum, by agencies yet to be fully disclosed. Authorities acting under the color of law but not in adherence to our laws, first closed down the Burns school system, even though the “armed occupiers”, of which only 4 are now remaining, are located 30 plus miles from downtown Burns in the middle of nowhere. WHY? Why was this necessary?
Road blocks, closures and check points are now common place in in and around Burns. Many of the local people have claimed that they are being randomly pulled over by “authorities” demanding they provide their ID’s for just driving down the street. There are locals being stopped at armed check points and forced out of their vehicle at gun point while their personal belongings and vehicle are thoroughly searched.
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One rancher, Thom Davis, related his story in which he had a slowly dying horse on the range that needed to be humanly put down in order to relieve its suffering. The only trouble being that he was not that far from one of these check points and feared that should he have ended the horse’s suffering with a shot to the head, he too would have suffered the same fate. A fate that was later confirmed when he talked to the sheriff.
In another case the authorities actually took their vehicle a quarter mile beyond the check point and made them walk to get it.
Yet, in another case, Alexandra Puckett, described in a facebook post, the treatment and gun point threats from authorities that her husband and his mom encountered while trying only to feed their cows.
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These actions taken by authorities have more in common with those of a Military Occupying Force in Iraq or Afghanistan they do with normal police actions here in American. The terrorization of Burns and throughout Harney County is, by no stretch of the imagination, being conducted by the ever increasing militarization of Federal and State agencies. With many reports of in conjunction with an illegal and unconstitutional buildup of a foreign mercenary army of PMC’s, an invading army if you will, acting under the color of law but not in adherence to our laws. Claim as they do that they are FBI, their tactics and use of vehicle void of any US military or alphabet agency marking or insignia’s, and lack of compliance with US Law, even when asked they present no documentation that they are indeed FBI. A video clip of this fact can be seen here.
Additionally, other armored assets from distant counties are in Burns. I ask, is all this really necessary to protect the public from 4 people still at the Refuge located 30 miles away, armed with a few rifles and hand guns, and already contained by authorities so they cannot escape from there. Or is something else going on here?
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Further there are claims that Blackhawk helicopters are being stationed at Burns Airport and in the surrounding area. For a link to that report click here.
In a recorded phone call to Major Bomar, Judge Darby explains that the forces present in Burns are most likely under the command and control of the UN and the IMF. In other words, foreign forces acting freely on US soil, a clear violation of our Constitution.
Judge Darby audio click here.
Why, you ask, would foreign PMC’s be doing here on the ground in the middle of nowhere in eastern Oregon, and under whose authorization are they being allowed to operate? Could it be that they are here to seize control of these lands for the mineral rights and related wealth for foreign governments? Well, as usual it’s all about following the money. In this case the money is the mineral wealth that these lands contain.
As most are aware Hillary Clinton has sold our uranium to Russia, for personal gain and power. While China is buying up as much gold as possible, and gold is another mineral the lands out west are still rich in. Could China be laying claim to this gold as collateral for our national debt?
Further info can be found here and here.
It is time for the People of America to start asking questions of their representatives as to whose authority these foreign forces and here operation under and why none of them are Obeying their Oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic!
It’s time We The People embrace our differences, differences that make each and every one of us an Individual, Unite in One Voice and Demand a Redress of Grievances to address these issues in a manner that is consistent with the procedures set forth in the US Constitution . Our Founders wrote in the Declaration of Independence :
“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundations on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall deem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness”
Therefore, We have the Constitutional Right and Duty to cast aside an overbearing federal government and build anew, by putting the Power back into the hand of its Rightful Owners…We the People.
To do otherwise plays into their bloody hands.
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It's becoming more and more apparent to me that this incident is being used as an opportunity to do a psyop exercise. The fact is a fast strike could be executed to apprehend the four holdouts, two of which would probably immediately surrender if given the chance, without any of this 'show of force' display. (thinking strictly from a 'peace officer' perspective)
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take the time and read what ares posted people ...........................this may end bad for those 4 men left there
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These people just don't know how lucky they are. Once you have had a gun held to your head and an offer to pull the trigger presented you can now honestly deal with the state under the terms VI ET ARMIS. Hopefully they had witnesses to the event but even if they didn't doesn't change the impact of engaging in contracts with the state VI ET ARMIS.
Use what you have to your own advantage unless you want to be enslaved.
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These people just don't know how lucky they are. Once you have had a gun held to your head and an offer to pull the trigger presented you can now honestly deal with the state under the terms VI ET ARMIS. Hopefully they had witnesses to the event but even if they didn't doesn't change the impact of engaging in contracts with the state VI ET ARMIS.
Use what you have to your own advantage unless you want to be enslaved.
How do you go about doing that to a perpetrator who refuses to give you his name? You can't drag a nobody into court. You need a name to attach the summons/complaint/claim too.
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I copy and pasted one of the places you had in post ares I wish I could of posted the videos , this stuff maybe removed later by the law men ,,,, Hammond Ranch sitting on precious metal, mineral, uranium, deposits which the BLM desperately wants
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Federal Government’s Modus operandi to seize Hammond Ranch and Bundy Ranch revealed
Update: The following article details in depth why the BLM targeted the Hammond family in the first place. This is a MUST read.
Key fact: Hammonds targeted because government wants to steal their land
(INTELLIHUB) — Renown Terra firma researcher dutchsinse conducted an investigation of both the Bundy Ranch in Nevada and the Hammond Ranch in Oregon.“Let’s just call it what it is. Human greed is at stake here. Who is going to get the gold back there in the back country? Who is going to get the uranium?”
The video below is a must watch.
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Additionally, “as it turns out,” dutchsinse said, the “history on Gold Butte [will] will blow your mind.”
“You have farmers, ranchers, that I would say have been going out and getting the gold.”
Dutch then goes on to prove there are massive yellowcake uranium deposits in the area.
Is it possible the group is facing off with the BLM over precious metals, minerals, resources n the area?
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Oregon The Secret They Don’t Want You To Know
BLM seems to have wanted the Hammond Ranch pretty darn bad but why? A corporation called Uranium One and a 1956 survey might just hold the answer!
Uranium One, a Canadian company mired in controversy over its proposed purchase by a Russian mining conglomerate, is divesting itself of its Colorado mining interests because of “all the politics and all the local sentiment” against uranium mining in the state, an executive told the Colorado Independent recently.
Prospects for a nuclear revival would start with mining uranium in Colorado.
“Nothing,” Uranium One vice president of conventional mining Norman Schwab said when asked what the company currently has going on in Colorado. “I had a lot of different properties in Colorado and we’re not into waiting for years for sentiment to change, so in terms of work in Colorado we’ve dropped the various properties and we’re focusing in Utah and Arizona and other states that are pro-mining. It’s as simple as that.”
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One of those more pro-mining Rocky Mountain states is neighboring Wyoming, where Uranium One is launching an in-situ mining project in the Powder River Basin. Republican lawmakers have objected to the purchase of Uranium One by Russian government-owned Atomredmetzoloto (ARMZ) for national security reasons.
There is considerable political angst that uranium mined in Wyoming could wind up in Iran because ARMZ supplies that neighboring and highly unfriendly nation. Uranium One’s Schwab, a South African based in the company’s Denver office, said it’s fear-mongering to suggest highly regulated uranium will wind up in a rogue state. It’s the unregulated stuff people should worry about, he said.
“It’s like gun ownership, for instance,” Schwab said. “In South Africa, the only people who own guns now are the criminals, because the people who try to do it legally are prohibited. It’s just impossible.”
The Denver Post Wednesday reported Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak addressed the political issue during a Denver visit on Tuesday: “Do you mind some investment? It is a normal commercial operation — not something that is operating on any political guidance.”
In a statement to the Colorado Independent, Colorado Sen. Mark Udall, a proponent of reviving the nation’s moribund nuclear power industry, said the ARMZ sale needs to be watched closely.
“With the increasing interest in strategic minerals, it’s definitely valid and responsible to ask serious questions about who has the right to extract, own and develop them, and I’m continuing to study the situation involving Uranium One,” Udall said. “I also understand that the proposal must be cleared by the U.S. Committee on Foreign Investments.”
U.S. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner also must sign off on the sale, and he will have to do so under a cloud of suspicion dating to the Cold War and the fact that a deal supplying American nuclear plants with uranium from old Russian nuclear weapons is set to expire in 2013. Despite a virtual freeze on new nuclear plants since the Three Mile Island accident in 1979, the U.S. still gets 20 percent of its electricity from aging nuclear plants.
More than 90 percent of the uranium used in U.S. nuclear plants is imported, and under the expiring weapons program, up to a third of that supply comes from Russia. Colorado is a former uranium-mining hotbed that produced uranium for some of the first atomic weapons, and in some depressed areas of the state an industry revival is viewed favorably. But there is mounting environmental and political pressure to clean up the industry’s toxic legacy and limit future operations.
Uranium One’s Schwab sees that as a mistake.
“If you think oil is bad, uranium is in the exact same picture where you import all your uranium and you’re going to be held hostage to that when in 2013 the agreement with the Russians ends,” he said. “Then, where do you get your uranium from?”
Jeff Parsons, senior attorney for the Western Mining Action Project, says Colorado is poised to get all of the environmental problems associated with the “dirty front end [mining]” of any nuclear power revival and few of the benefits.
“The increase of foreign companies taking over mining interests in the United States is part of a trend over the last 20 years or so,” Parsons said. “We’ve seen more and more foreign mining companies in Colorado and across the West.”
Uranium is a “locatable mineral” under the 1872 Mining Law that was meant to speed the settlement of the West, and as such it is not subject to any sort of royalty payment similar to what the oil and gas industry must pay to drill on federal lands.
“What’s happened in the last 20 years is the growth in multi-national foreign companies taking over these deposits is they get a better deal in the United States than they get in any other country,” Parsons said.
Next: Why hasn’t the 1872 Mining Law been reformed to compel companies to pay royalties for extracting hard-rock minerals from federal lands?
Editor’s note: An earlier version of this story misidentified the nonprofit environmental law firm that Jeff Parsons works for. His is a senior attorney with the Western Mining Action Project in Lyons.
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lots more at site .......http://tatsrevolution.com/2016/01/15...ou-to-know/The U.S. Bureau of Land Management has purchased two private parcels of land surrounded by the Agua Fria National Monument, and it’s working on one more.
The BLM bought 80 acres of the Cross Y Ranch, including one 40-acre parcel located a mile west of the ranch headquarters and another 40-acre parcel located three miles north of the headquarters. The monument is located in southeast Yavapai County. The purchases prevent possible development of the parcels.
“We are thrilled to have the additional habitat and very grateful to our partners, especially the original landowner who chose to have his land become part of the National Conservation Lands, and The Conservation Fund, which made this possible,” said Rem Hawes, manager of the BLM’s Hassayampa Field Office.
The landowner sold the parcels to The Conservation Fund in 2012, and the BLM has been working to buy it ever since. The BLM paid the appraised value of $80,000 using Land and Water Conservation Act money.
“The Cross Y Ranch includes substantial water rights, nearly one mile of the Agua Fria River, wildlife migratory corridors, cultural resources, and opportunities for public access to monument lands,” said Mike Ford, director of the Conservation Fund’s Southwest Regional Office. The organization can move faster than the federal government, so it buys land to temporarily protect it until federal agencies can complete their purchase processes.
The lands are located within the Perry Mesa Archaeological District that is on the National Register of Historic Places.
The purchases also protect desert grasslands that provide habitat for pronghorn antelope and other species, officials noted.
The Conservation Fund already has purchased another 600 acres of the Cross Y Ranch to help facilitate the BLM’s future purchase of this tract, too. It surrounds the 100-acre ranch headquarters property. The BLM hopes to get Land and Water Conservation Fund money to buy this parcel in fiscal year 2017. It includes a second of the Agua Fria River.
The BLM is interested in buying a couple other private inholdings within the monument, Hawes said, although it’s not pursuing those purchases at this time. They include the 80-acre Box Bar Ranch and the 25-acre Indian Creek parcel that’s also part of the Box Bar.
While the Richinbar Mine also is on private land within the monument, the BLM isn’t interested in buying it because it was heavily mined from the late 1880s to the 1920s and has numerous physical hazards, Hawes said. The land also might contain mining-related waste, he added.
A few years ago, the Arizona Game and Fish Department bought the Horseshoe Ranch that’s surrounded by the monument, so that land already is protected from development.
If federal law allowed the BLM to buy adjacent lands, BLM officials also would be interested in buying another 1,280 acres of land southeast of the Cross Y Ranch, Hawes said.
WHAT’S WILDERNESS WORTH?
For more than a century, the people who run America’s extractive industries—logging, mining, and fossil-fuel drilling—have offered one answer. Conservationists and the environmental movement have offered another. Developers have touted job creation and the connection between industrial exploitation and economic vitality. Environmentalists have grounded their appeals in ecological science and the value of wilderness to the human soul. Always at odds, locked in ideological opposition, the two sides, it seems, have long been speaking different languages.
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Currently, with tens of millions of acres on the line and developers enjoying a stiff political tailwind blowing out of Washington, D.C., the mutual incomprehension has become nearly absolute. The environment reflects the red-state/blue-state divide and plays out in vitriolic debate.
Amid all the noise, both sides are failing to hear the whisper of a bold development that could break the deadlock and revolutionize sustainable environmental policy: the arrival of wilderness economics, a dollars-and-cents way to attach a fair and reliable estimate to the seemingly uncountable value of preserving wild spaces and pristine natural resources.
The lyrical phrases of John Muir, Aldo Leopold, and David Brower never came with dollar signs attached. They couldn’t. In bill and coin, nobody in those days could say what wilderness was worth. Now we can. Studies of rivers and lakes reveal that healthy watersheds provide millions of dollars’ worth of water filtration, just one of many such natural services critical for healthy communities. Researchers digging into the economy of the West are finding that forests often have a higher cash value standing than they have as cut timber. Small towns born as logging outposts now thrive as recreation gateways.
“Fifteen years ago we knew intuitively that cutting down these forests didn’t make sense,” says Bob Freimark, Pacific Northwest director of the Wilderness Society. “We couldn’t point to any economic studies to back us up. But not anymore.”
This new economic paradigm couldn’t arrive at a more crucial time. The failure of environmentalists to sell their agenda to voters has run headlong into an administration that’s put energy development at the top of its list and is making it easier than ever to siphon private resources from public land. While mainstream media have focused on hot spots like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, Bush administration officials have quietly opened millions of acres of wilderness-quality land in the lower 48 to developers. Much of the 58.5 million acres of roadless national forest preserved by the Clinton administration will soon lose its protection. In Wyoming, ranchers who’ve wisely tended their land for generations are watching energy companies ruin their soil and water in a natural-gas free-for-all. In Utah and Colorado, nearly 150,000 acres of wildland—including previously protected sections of Desolation Canyon, as well as spectacular tracts of Sagebrush Pillows and the Dolores River Canyon—have been leased for drilling in the past 14 months. Tens of thousands more will likely follow.
President George W. Bush and his supporters defend these actions in the name of energy security and jobs. But set against the West’s new economic reality—a long-term shift away from extractive industries and toward recreation, tourism, the service sector, and information technology—the aggressive drive to cut and drill without factoring in long-term effects on the value of public wildland isn’t just environmentally unfriendly; it’s economically unsound. Converting the natural wealth contained in the nation’s pristine forests, deserts, canyons, and mesas into a one-time hit of corporate profit is a swindle of the first order, one that should outrage anyone, Republican or Democrat, who favors combining sound business practices with smart environmental stewardship.
Fortunately, the new way of thinking, if embraced by both sides, could lead to an era of compromise, in which decisions about extraction and preservation are based on assessments of long-term value, and of how that value might or might not be sacrificed for short-term gains.
If that happens, we’ll owe thanks to people like John Loomis, 52, an economics professor in the Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics at Colorado State University in Fort Collins and one of the pioneer thinkers in wilderness valuation. Loomis has written dozens of papers showing that mining, logging, drilling, and grazing are rarely the most economically beneficial uses of public land. His personal revelation came 28 years ago, in 1977, shortly after the young Cal State Northridge graduate took a job with the federal government’s Bureau of Land Management, which put him to work in the slickrock canyons around Moab.
“My second week on the job,” Loomis recalls, “the Forest Service held a public hearing. About three-quarters of the people there said they didn’t want any wilderness in Utah, period. And I thought, Now wait a minute. Surely there’s some economic value in wilderness.” Along with a handful of like-minded colleagues scattered around the West, Loomis would spend the next quarter-century proving that there is.
$72 AN ACRE
Wilderness economics may not be the last word in the conservation argument, but it’s taken on considerable weight, given the alacrity and scale with which the White House is rolling back wilderness protection. If the current wilderness land grab had an emblematic moment, it was the morning of November 24, 2003. I was on hand that day when the federal government—dramatically reversing long-standing precedent—took a chunk of protected land (acreage that the BLM itself had identified as having “wilderness characteristics,” and that was part of the proposed 9.5-million-acre Red Rock Wilderness) and auctioned it off to oil and gas developers.
“Parcel number 26 is the next one we’re offering,” the auctioneer called out to the 22 land men—agents for oil and gas companies—who had assembled inside a BLM conference room in Salt Lake City. “Minimum bid: two dollars to start.”
Auctions like this are, in themselves, nothing new. Since the 1920s, private companies have acquired the right to drill on public land for as little as $2 an acre. Currently there are 94,000 wells on public property and Indian reservations, producing 11 percent of America’s natural gas and 5 percent of our oil.
But Parcel 26 was different. Behind its sale lay nearly three years of legal maneuvering at the top levels of the Interior Department. After chafing under two terms of President Bill Clinton’s conservationist policies, industry executives and Bush appointees came into office determined to ramp up the industrial use of public land. In their way stood two things: Clinton’s Roadless Area Conservation Rule, adopted by the Forest Service in January 2001, and the de facto wilderness protections installed on BLM land in 1999 by then–Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt.
The roadless rule halted the taxpayer-subsidized construction of new roads on the most pristine 58.5 million acres of national forest. (There are currently 436,000 miles of roads on the nation’s 192 million acres of national forests and grasslands.) Because the rule came late in Clinton’s term, President Bush—just minutes after taking the oath of office in January 2001—was able to temporarily freeze its implementation. By the end of 2004, the White House had eliminated roadless protection for much of Alaska’s 17-million-acre Tongass National Forest and had rewritten the rule in a way that all but ensured that roadless protections would never take effect in the nation’s other national forests.
Opening up protected BLM wildlands to oil and gas developers has proven trickier. The BLM oversees 261 million acres, almost all of which is in the West. Most of that land is open to oil and gas drilling, but 6.5 million acres are protected as congressionally authorized wilderness areas, and 15.5 million are held as wilderness study areas (WSA), meaning the land is off limits to development pending further evaluation.
Based on state-by-state inventories conducted over the past two decades, environmental groups claim that the BLM manages an additional 12 million acres of wilderness-quality land not protected in either WSAs or formal wilderness areas, including several million in Utah. In 1996, prompted by conservationists, Bruce Babbitt told BLM managers to re-inventory the agency’s Utah holdings. And if you find that it’s wilderness, he told them, manage it as wilderness. The process took three years, but in 1999 the BLM acknowledged that it held more than 2.6 million additional acres of wilderness-quality land and gave it protected status.
The Bush administration, with Babbitt’s successor, Gale Norton, leading the charge, was determined to reverse that policy. From 2001 to 2003, Norton and Interior officials secretly negotiated a deal with Utah state officials—including then-governor Mike Leavitt, who later became Bush’s EPA administrator—to remove the wilderness restrictions.
Norton’s April 11, 2003, announcement stunned wilderness advocates. Not only had the deal wiped out the BLM’s 2.6 million acres of “managed wilderness” in Utah; it also prohibited the BLM from expanding its WSA inventory. In any state. Ever.
Seven months later, on November 24, 2003, the first of the previously protected BLM parcels was put up for lease in Salt Lake City. After the auction, I caught up with the man who had placed the winning bid to lease Parcel 26 and two other pieces of Desolation Canyon. (In about five minutes he’d leased 4,700 acres for $340,000.) His name was Joe Thames, and he was there on behalf of Baseline Minerals Inc., a minerals-brokerage firm based in Denver. Because land men like Thames often represent third-party buyers, I asked whom he’d purchased the lease for.
“I’m not able to disclose that,” he said. I asked why there was so much interest in the Desolation Canyon property.
“I’d rather not say.” With that, Thames turned and left. Three pieces of Utah wilderness disappeared with him.
Joe Thames’s money wasn’t theoretical; he wrote a check to the American taxpayers for $340,000. But is that the whole story? If Baseline Minerals builds a natural-gas well and runs a road into Desolation Canyon (when this issue went to press, no development had yet taken place on this land), the development could threaten the $1.5 million annual revenue generated by the rafting industry on Desolation’s Green River. Moreover, this land couldn’t qualify for full wilderness protection.
Is that worth $340,000? Or did the BLM just sell a piece of Utah’s economic future far too cheaply?
THE SILENT ENGINE
To some, it might seem pretty cut-and-dried: the value of leaving beautiful but “worthless” wilderness alone versus the potential for jobs, profits, and the prospect of reducing America’s dependence on foreign sources of energy. Oil companies might mess up the landscape, but that’s forgotten come payday. Wilderness advocates don’t cut checks, and a man can’t feed his family on scenery.
That’s the old line, anyway, but it’s not as convincing anymore. A reversal of that conventional wisdom began taking shape in the early nineties, following the 1989 Exxon Valdez spill in Alaska’s Prince William Sound. Shortly after the disaster, economists working for the state of Alaska calculated a fair estimate, in dollars, of the spill’s damage. They used a number of then-controversial methods like “contingent valuation,” which relies on polling data to estimate what the average citizen would pay to keep, say, Glacier National Park protected from destruction. Using such measures, the economists came up with a damage estimate: $3 billion.
Many of the theories, methods, and benchmarks used to produce the Valdez estimate didn’t just emerge overnight. They were part of a 30-year-old work in progress by economists based in various academic outposts in the West—among them, Loomis, at Colorado State; Thomas Power, at the University of Montana; Gundars Rudzitis, at the University of Idaho; Gretchen Daily, at Stanford; and Ed Whitelaw, at the University of Oregon. Though the Valdez brought some publicity to what these thinkers were doing, their ideas didn’t significantly influence national policy until 1999, when President Clinton first proposed the roadless rule.
“The timber industry launched an economic salvo against the roadless rule early on,” recalls Ken Rait, a wilderness activist and former director of the Heritage Forests Campaign, a Washington, D.C.–based coalition of environmental groups that lobbied in favor of the rule. “They said it would condemn the future of rural economies. We knew they were flat-out wrong. So we brought John Loomis on to look into it.”
Building on previous research that calculated everything from the spending average of wilderness visitors ($30 a day) to the value of roadless areas for scientific research (about $5 million a year), Loomis and Robert Richardson, a doctoral student at CSU, produced a study with impressive numbers. They found that wilderness pays primarily in three ways: direct income from recreational use and as a quality-of-life benefit to lure new businesses and residents; passive-use value (what it’s worth to maintain the opportunity to visit wilderness, or to pass that opportunity on to future generations); and “ecosystem services,” natural processes like the air- and water-purification functions of an undisturbed forest.
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b) Interagency Coordination. The following agencies shall work with the Initiative to identify existing resources and align policies and programs to achieve its goals:(i) the Department of Defense;
(ii) the Department of Commerce;
(iii) the Department of Housing and Urban Development;
(iv) the Department of Health and Human Services;
(v) the Department of Labor;
(vi) the Department of Transportation;
(vii) the Department of Education; and
(viii) the Office of Management and Budget (OMB).
(c) Reports. The Initiative shall submit, through the Chair of the CEQ, the following reports to the President:
(i) Report on America’s Great Outdoors. By November 15, 2010, the Initiative shall submit a report that includes the following:
(A) a review of successful and promising nonfederal conservation approaches;
(B) an analysis of existing Federal resources and programs that could be used to complement those approaches;
(C) proposed strategies and activities to achieve the goals of the Initiative; and
(D) an action plan to meet the goals of the Initiative.
The report should reflect the constraints in resources available in, and be consistent with, the Federal budget. It should recommend efficient and effective use of existing resources, as well as opportunities to leverage nonfederal public and private resources and nontraditional conservation programs.
(ii) Annual reports. By September 30, 2011, and September 30, 2012, the Initiative shall submit reports on its progress in implementing the action plan developed pursuant to subsection (c)(i)(D) of this section.
Sec. 3. General Provisions.
(a) This memorandum shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of any necessary appropriations.
(b) This memorandum does not create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.
(c) The heads of executive departments and agencies shall assist and provide information to the Initiative, consistent with applicable law, as may be necessary to carry out the functions of the Initiative. Each executive department and agency shall bear its own expenses of participating in the Initiative.
(d) Nothing in this memorandum shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect the functions of the Director of the OMB relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.
(e) The Chair of the CEQ is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.http://tatsrevolution.com/2016/01/15...t-you-to-know/
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Special Agent in Charge of Oregon Occupation Greg Bretzing Linked to National Security Breach, Fraud and Corruption in Salt Lake City
by Red Smith · January 29, 2016
Information Courtesy of KSL-TV
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https://shastalantern.net/wp-content.../Bretzing1.jpeSpecial Agent in Charge Bretzing
In 2011 KSL-TV out of Utah conducted a year-long investigation of the FBI Field Office in Salt Lake City regarding security violations. The alleged violations had been first reported by a special agent in Phoenix and alleged a leak of classified information that could threaten national security. Greg Bretzing, now out of the FBI’s Portland, OR. branch and current Special Agent in Charge of the Malhuer Occupation and LaVoy Finicum shooting was an Assistant Special Agent in Charge at the time of the investigation. The report prompted the Salt Lake City field office to begin re-evaluating its security procedures, according to sources inside the FBI. Security clearance procedures were reassessed to ensure each individual had the appropriate credentials and access.
The story detailed allegations of multiple violations of internal FBI policies, including lax oversight of classified documents stored inside the FBI’s Salt Lake City field office; violations of policies that govern the issuance and use of FBI credentials; the failure to enforce rules that restrict access to areas where classified documents are kept; and concerns that high-level FBI officials may have covered up a formal complaint of security violations. The FBI declined to officially comment on any of the allegations.
Nearly a dozen self-described whistleblowers — including those with strong ties to the FBI’s Salt Lake field office — have come forward to expose potentially serious security breaches, including the removal of classified documents from the office contrary to strict FBI protocol. The whistleblowers were interviewed as part of the yearlong investigation which was able to corroborate much of what each source reported by conducting individual interviews without the knowledge of other sources. The sources provided details of multiple violations of internal FBI policies, including lax oversight of highly classified documents stored inside the Salt Lake City office’s Secret Compartmented Information Facility; the failure to enforce rules that restrict access to areas where classified documents are kept; violations of policies that govern the issuance of FBI credentials; and concerns that high-level FBI officials may have covered up a formal complaint of security violations.
“The actions that Salt Lake City is taking definitely could jeopardize national security,” one FBI source said. “That’s a big problem. That’s a huge problem with catastrophic consequences.””[that] turned that place upside down,” an FBI source said “It [was] pandemonium.” “It’s a huge deal,” another FBI source said. “We’re talking about the pinnacle of law enforcement. And they’ve got corruption inside their own office.”Special Agent in Charge James McTighe and the two assistant special agents in charge, Ken Porter and Greg Bretzing, were said to be visibly concerned. Dan Ward, the special agent in charge of security, was reportedly just as worried.
These individuals spoke on the condition that their identities be protected. “There is a severe problem with the Salt Lake office,” one source told KSL. “None of them will come forward because they know the FBI will come after them with a vengeance.” “People are afraid,” another FBI source said. “People are afraid to say anything. This has been going on for years.”
Sources who worked in Salt Lake field say concerns about security were heightened when the FBI granted high-level credentials to certain non-FBI task force members. In a specific example, all cite the credentials provided to Utah State fraud investigator Shane Tiernan, when he was appointed to an FBI-led task force on health care and then the violent crimes task force. Those sources said Tiernan was given an FBI Secure Access Control System key card, known as a SACS badge. This type of badge is considered a high-level credential, usually allowing 24-hour access to the FBI field office. Sources say however, Tiernan frequently wore his FBI-issued SACS badge and allegedly was allowed to maintain his credentials even after he left public service.
“He had credentials after he was off the task force and during the time he was a civilian employee. He was in another state working as a civilian. When he returned to Utah, he still had those credentials, which is a direct violation of FBI policy,” said a former state investigator who worked with Tiernan. “Shane Tiernan knows about the improprieties of the FBI,” said one source knowledgeable of the FBI probe. “The FBI’s not going to do anything to him. The FBI will never besmirch his name because he’ll turn around and take down the supervisors that he knew.” One such alleged improper practice involves an agent “loaning” an FBI-issued automatic firearm to Tiernan for a period of one year, according to three separate sources who worked with Tiernan at the time.
In light of the controversy surrounding the shooting of LaVoy Finicum and considering the other allegations of impropriety, corruption and political incest and nepotism surrounding key individuals of the Government, Judge Ann Aiken, Judge Stephen Grasty, Sheriff Dave Ward, involved with the Malhuer Occupation, this revelation is troubling in the extreme.
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These individuals spoke on the condition that their identities be protected. “There is a severe problem with the Salt Lake office,” one source told KSL. “None of them will come forward because they know the FBI will come after them with a vengeance.” “People are afraid,” another FBI source said. “People are afraid to say anything. This has been going on for years.”
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Power Corrupts Absolutely: Ties that Bind Run Deep with Aiken Family in Hammond Case
by Red Smith · January 26, 2016
Ann Aiken, Chief Judge of the United States District Court of Oregon 9th Circuit, is no stranger to accusations of inappropriate relationships regarding her Courtroom. She is not a stranger to willfully failing to disclose those relationships and has even allegedly illegally ruled in her own favor to attempt to hide those relationships. In one recent complaint filing, a visiting out-of-circuit judge was requested by motion because the Defendants, including Ninth Circuit judges who are a member of the Oregon State Bar, had several political, business and social ties to Judge Aiken who was to be the presiding judge in the case. These ties constituted a very real potential conflict of interest against the Plaintiff’s interests. There are specific guidelines to be followed when requesting inter-circuit visiting judges and Judge Aiken refused to follow those requirements. Only the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court may decide such matters and Judge Aiken refused to follow those guidelines and the federal statute by ruling on these matters herself. Judge Aiken ruled on the motion against her in her own favor.
Already brought to light is Judge Aiken’s potential inappropriate working relationship with Hammond terrorism re-sentencing lead prosecutor Amanda Marshall. Prior to being appointed U.S. District Attorney Amanda Marshall worked for the Oregon Department of Justice in Child Advocacy Services, a State Agency overseen by the Child Advocacy Services Board, a Board Judge Aiken has been President of since 1998. Judge Aiken was the Chief Justice that oversaw Amanda Marshall’s Oath of Office and swearing in and in conclusion to that ceremony instructed Marshall to “now hit the ground running”.
Judge Aiken was also the presiding Judge in a 2006 case that overturned several key provisions of the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Act of 2000 which she found violated the supremacy of the Federal Environmental Protection Act. A management plan that the Hammonds were key in helping construct. As well Judge Aiken’s decision weighed heavily based on affidavit testimony by Harney County Judge Stephen Grasty, whose actions have come into question and extreme scrutiny since the occupation began.
Now in question is Judge Aiken’s relationship with two brothers who have started a counter occupation movement labeled as G.O.H.O.M.E. (Getting Occupiers of Historic Oregon Malhuer Evicted). Started by brothers Zach and Jake Klonoski, the group seeks to raise funds and generate community sentiment to forcefully remove the Citizen Occupiers of the Malhuer Reserve. Zach Klonoski is a special assistant to Charlie Hales, Mayor of Portland and is listed by the City’s website as the Mayor’s right hand. Jake Klonoski is an Attorney Adviser Department of the Inspector General 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
In order to re-sentence the Hammonds as terrorists the United States Government had to file an appeal Under 18 U.S. Code 3742 (B). According to the code; “…The Government may not further prosecute such appeal without the personal approval of the Attorney General, the Inspector General, or a deputy inspector general designated by the Inspector General.” The same Inspector General where Jake Klonoski is employed as a key Attorney Adviser. These appeals to sentences are extremely rare in their dispensation. However, as troubling as Jake Klonoski’s capacity to influence that appeal process is, considering his recent political stance against the Occupiers seeking to defend the Hammonds rights, it is does not hold a candle to the inappropriate relationship between the Klonoski Brothers and Judge Ann Aiken, whose former married name is Ann Aiken-Klonoski. Jake and Zach are in fact her sons.
Considering Judge Aiken’s working relationship with the lead prosecutor, her familial relationship with key members of the Inspector Generals office with the power to issue the rarely heard of sentencing appeal and her involvement in overturning a law the Hammonds were instrumental in crafting it is not outside the realm of logic to question Aiken’s fitness to serve as the presiding Judge in the re-sentencing matter. Taken in the light of complaints filed against Judge Aiken regarding her failure to disclose pertinent relationships and her capacity to circumvent the law in her own behalf, it is unconscionable that she presided over the Hammond case and as the situation now clearly reeks of nepotism, political incest and corruption the Hammond case clearly must be revisited by a new and impartial means outside of the tainted District Court. At this juncture it would seem that a Common Law Grand Jury constructed outside of the Oregon or Federal Courts is the only mechanism remaining that can be trusted to operate under the color of law.
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