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BLM Flip Flops: “No Deal” on Dropping Actions Against Bundy
Despite standoff defeat, feds assert case will continue
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
April 14, 2014
Despite being forced to release hundreds of seized cattle after an astounding standoff on Saturday, the Bureau of Land Management has vowed to continue its pursuit of Cliven Bundy, asserting that no deal has been made to cease its case against the Nevada cattle rancher.
Amazing scenes unfolded on Saturday as Bundy supporters and cowboys on horseback faced off against armed BLM agents and police, demanding that hundreds of cattle seized by the BLM over a grazing rights dispute be released from a nearby corral.
With feds and law enforcement at one point threatening to shoot protesters dead, Bundy supporters fearlessly held their ground and then began advancing on the corral.
Around 380 cattle were eventually released and BLM agents left the scene, a remarkable victory for property rights activists against big government. However, the ‘battle of Bunkerville’ as it is now being called is unlikely to mark the end of the saga.
Despite Clark County Sheriff Douglas Gillespie announcing on Saturday that the BLM had agreed to cease its operation against Bundy, the BLM now asserts that it played no part in the deal and will continue to pursue Bundy “administratively and judicially” for the $1 million in grazing fees it claims Bundy owes the feds.
Since Bundy has steadfastly refused to pay the fee, offering instead to pay it to Clark County, the feds will have no option other than to send armed men to arrest Bundy or restart the operation to confiscate his cattle. Such action will then prompt thousands of Americans to rally to Bundy’s defense just as they did last week, threatening another standoff.
“The door isn’t closed. We’ll figure out how to move forward with this,” BLM spokesman Craig Leff told the Associated Press, adding, “The BLM and National Park Service did not cut any deal and negotiate anything, there was no deal we made.”
This completely contradicts reports on Saturday which stated that, “A deal has been reached between the Bundy family and the Bureau of Land Management.”
In another twist, private investigator Doug Hagmann claims a Department of Homeland Security source told him that the federal stand down on Saturday was merely a temporary measure designed to “hoodwink” Bundy supporters into “believing that the situation is being resolved”.
Hagmann says his source told him the plan to release the cattle had been devised the day before and that Saturday’s activities were focused around a military assessment of the strength of the “resistance” shown by Bundy supporters.
Whatever the truth, the ‘battle of Bunkerville’ represents a seminal moment in the modern American liberty movement.
However, the notion that it represents the end of the federal government’s pursuit of Cliven Bundy is a naive conclusion to draw.
http://www.infowars.com/blm-flip-flo...against-bundy/
Published on Apr 13, 2014
Founder of Oath Keepers, Stewart Rhodes, is in Bunkerville, Nevada at the Bundy Ranch. I spoke with Stewart late Sunday afternoon and recorded the interview below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLMAEcjIBxw
Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLMAEcjIBxw
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Originally Posted by Ares
They have demostrated this in their past actions. They will not stop until they have bankrupted every rancher on public land.
United States vs Gardner No. 95-17042 The 9th circuit court ruled against Gardner's arguments on PollardsLessee, also against the Equal Footing Doctrine, so this blows my previous arguments out of the water, unless of course somehow this same argument makes it into the Supreme Court and is over turned.
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Supreme court will not rule on issues of a constitutional nature while the (un)civil war remains unsettled. In fact any issue may be filed as an article III case in the supreme court and process will immediately stop. They cannot proceed and no other court has jurisdiction. I was told that there were several brothers in Colorado who used to stop federal process all the time this way. That file cabinet they have of case backlogs must be huge.Quote:
Originally Posted by monty
I think this incident highlights the effectiveness of (armed) cowboys on horseback. I don't think the BLM would have capitulated had everyone been on foot.
Or everyone had been unarmed. The protestors being armed and willing to use them was the biggest determining factor in that stand off.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Why I never saw the point of an unarmed protest. People got beaten, tased or arrested. You didn't see that happen at the ranch when people who were armed showed up.
Please link the meeting at 1:00pm
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