Get Ready for a 70% Marginal Tax Rate

nobody has anything. we all have our own septic, wells, etc. ultimately, they want tax money. the lake we're near is a HIGHLY popular vacation spot for people from minneapolis, chicago, etc. they are pissed that a bunch of "yokels," are sitting on prime real estate that could be built into mcmansions.

the funny thing is, i bought this place primarily because it is out of dodge. now they want to expand dodge.

i am near a couple of apple orchards owned by people with big, huge, money, so we are all counting on them to fight the fight, so to speak.

there is no way i can keep this place if my taxes instantly go up $4,800 a year.

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Originally Posted by chad

nobody has anything. we all have our own septic, wells, etc. ultimately, they want tax money. the lake we're near is a HIGHLY popular vacation spot for people from Minneapolis, Chicago, etc. they are pissed that a bunch of "yokels," are sitting on prime real estate that could be built into mcmansions.

the funny thing is, i bought this place primarily because it is out of dodge. now they want to expand dodge.

i am near a couple of apple orchards owned by people with big, huge, money, so we are all counting on them to fight the fight, so to speak.

there is no way i can keep this place if my taxes instantly go up $4,800 a year.

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In my part of the world orchards are considered farms and agricultural. Orchards are considered working farms.So you have to have livestock? And the orchard people are going to be effected also?

i haven't researched the working farm end of it yet. it's in the early stages. i'm sure there will be lots of citizens' groups organizing and attending meetings, etc. it only came out about 3-4 weeks ago that they're floating the idea. i know one of the orchard guys, and he's a gsus type with big money, so we have that going for us.

it just pisses me off that they can NEVER leave you alone.

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we all pay taxes

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No, 'we' ALL don't.

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Originally Posted by chad

i haven't researched the working farm end of it yet. it's in the early stages. i'm sure there will be lots of citizens' groups organizing and attending meetings, etc. it only came out about 3-4 weeks ago that they're floating the idea. i know one of the orchard guys, and he's a gsus type with big money, so we have that going for us.

it just pisses me off that they can NEVER leave you alone.

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Again good luck in the fight! And as long as there are people, there will always be the ones that will try any way to make a buck of the backs of others. And in my book, developers are near the top of my list. One of them in your area got the ideal and pushed it, I will almost bet you on this.

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Originally Posted by chad

i haven't researched the working farm end of it yet. it's in the early stages. i'm sure there will be lots of citizens' groups organizing and attending meetings, etc. it only came out about 3-4 weeks ago that they're floating the idea. i know one of the orchard guys, and he's a gsus type with big money, so we have that going for us.

it just pisses me off that they can NEVER leave you alone.

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"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."

I feel your pain. Unfortunately, the government is a parasite and survives by parasitizing off of the productive. What's worse, government has bribed, seduced and indoctrinated fully half the population into believing that they are entitled to the fruits of your labor. In the end, the productive get angry, disgusted, tired and shrug the unappreciative and never-satisfied burden off their shoulders and stop producing surpluses - the system comes to a grinding halt. They had a saying in Soviet Russia: "They pretend to pay us; we pretend to work." We're getting very close to end game. Hang on brother!

I wish I knew the answer to fighting the city.

Up here you have to gross $7000 a year through some sort of agricultural business in order to have your land remain at the agri property tax limit.

Good point Mamboni. Property tax is the one area that really bothers me because i haven't found a workable solution to get out of it. If you have a decent piece of land you can always produce most of what you need from it even if everything else goes to shit. But if they keep raising property taxes they could steal pretty much everything away form you.

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Originally Posted by Son-of-Liberty

Good point Mamboni. Property tax is the one area that really bothers me because i haven't found a workable solution to get out of it. If you have a decent piece of land you can always produce most of what you need from it even if everything else goes to shit. But if they keep raising property taxes they could steal pretty much everything away form you.

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In the latter days of the Roman Empire, landowners willingly gave up their properties and citizenship, having themselves declared "slaves" to avoid the crushing taxation by the imperial government. When the imperial government finally collapsed in 476 AD, it is said that the people sighed in relief from the taxes, and welcomed rule by the Germans.

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Originally Posted by Son-of-Liberty

Good point Mamboni. Property tax is the one area that really bothers me because i haven't found a workable solution to get out of it. If you have a decent piece of land you can always produce most of what you need from it even if everything else goes to shit. But if they keep raising property taxes they could steal pretty much everything away form you.

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I know of a fellow in east Texas who has not been paying property taxes on his land for several years. They haven't taken it from him, but it's not for lack of trying - they are persistently on him. A mutual friend turned him onto the Rod Class material. He studied it, filed some documents with the court, and then made a special appearance. They cleared the courtroom for his case, and then told him, "We'll get back to you on this."