the "truth" movement is full of pied pipers. It would be another shame.
the "truth" movement is full of pied pipers. It would be another shame.
It is a shame. If Spingola has been compromised though, it wouldn't surprise me. If she has become popular, it would mean that her show is a commercial success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass
Commerce is under the jurisdiction of law and law is governed. Actually Law is Government. Or rather Government is the enactment and enforcement of Law.
So, if a show becomes popular, it will attract the enforcers of law to it like flies to honey. Who knows, perhaps she received a call from her attorney or some such noser,
to cease certain commentary or be sanctioned, or litigated out of existence. It is a shame. It turns free speech into a bad joke.
Deanna responds (13th reply, no direct link) @ Mami's:
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Deanna said...
I opened my program with this statement: "I expect that some people will ridicule me for today’s program. In that regard, I would like to have you refer back to the program that I conducted on Thursday, December 19, 2013 when I discussed Beverly K. Eakman’s book, How to Counter Group Manipulation Tactics. On the front cover, there is a group of 23 people sitting at a round table. Then there is the facilitator or operative who is probably five times the size of the targets, the group of people. In a text bubble, he is saying “Even a child could see…” We in the truth movement are a group of people; each of us has that herd mentality whether we admit it or not. We do not want to counter a popular stance because we do not want to be ridiculed." Predictably, people have responded as I anticipated, along with name-calling, something in which I do not engage. I did not mention anyone else's research on this event or do a hatchet job on anyone. That is not my style!
At no time did I say that I accepted the government's views of this event. Truth is not a popularity contest or something to vote on. So what if others have previously produced their views on this event. Does that mean 'case closed' - no other views are allowed? I presented some other thoughts about the event. I do not have a monopoly on the truth and I don't think that anyone else does either. As I stated at the end of the program, I was not there. Anyone who was not there has no idea what happened. We are all susceptible and vulnerable to what we read and see in the media, including the Internet. People should be open-minded enough to review all the possibilities. Apparently, some people have selectively listened to what I said or didn't even bother to listen to the entire program and have already made up their minds about what is true and what isn't. As far as accusing me of buying the official version, what of those who accepted the MS media's programming suggestions of controlled demolition on 9/11? Does that mean that they have sold out to Silverstein and his cronies? Are they also suspect?
January 17, 2014 at 11:01 AM
Pat Colo said...Quote:
Originally Posted by PatColo
Deanna: U said,
"At no time did I say that I accepted the government's views of this event."
The core of zion.gov's SH story is,
"[I believe that] on December 14 2012, twenty year old Adam Lanza fatally shot 20 children, and 6 adult staff members, at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown Connecticut, [...] Before driving to the school, Lanza shot and killed his mother Nancy, and as first responders arrived, he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. Friends and family attended the many funerals that were held. There were people that were killed. There were funerals."
^ Those are your words, beginning at 12:20 in the published MP3 version of your 15 January show. We can quibble over minutia perhaps, but that's the core of zion.gov's official Sandy-HookNosedHOAX fable, which you "accepted" above.
After flatly proclaiming your 'belief' in the quote above, you did not address the numerous problems with that belief; displaying the same tact as the TUT Glenn/Piper/Tillawi crew. Those problems include but aren't limited to:
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/10...elaborate-hoax
At 29:00, you addressed a 'dissenting' chat message posted by one the the show-chat participants. You said:
" Somebody in the chat room just said, 'Deanna, I agree that they are covering for SSRIs, but there is more to it than just that. There is too much that just does not add up.'
I totally agree with you. I totally agree with you. "
How can your "I totally agree with you" response to that chat room participant, jibe with your flatly proclaimed 'beliefs' in your first quote above?
At 30:40, you took a brief detour from you Big Pharma focus, and you made a number of assertions about the Lanza family's gun obsession, a target range in their basement, Adam's fascination with mass school shootings, and more; but you very uncharacteristically didn't cite your source for these assertions. I was in the chat room as Anon xx17 (where I don't recall the 'xx'), and I asked what your source was for these assertions. You responded a few minutes later, with a text (not hyperlink) message citing a March '13 Je- I mean, New York Times article about the SH event. The title was something about "..Chilling Details.." but I don't recall exactly because I've long since closed the chatango window, and I'm not sure how to retrieve the chat from your 15 Jan show.
But it was disturbing that in this obviously pre-prepared script which you read for your 15 Jan show, that you opted not to cite your source for those claims about the Lanzas on air for your listening audience-- claims which, IF TRUE, would be so supportive of zion.gov's official SH story, and so damaging to SH skeptics. It was only in the chatango chat room, when asked directly, that you coughed up that your 'source' was the NEW YORK TIMES.
I could go on, but fact is, I put a good deal of work into this 'article' posted at my squalid little internet rat-hole:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...ndy-Hook-Story
where readers can read fuller transcribed quotes, blah blah.
I hope you're well Deanna-- seriously! :)
January 17, 2014 at 2:04 PM
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Originally Posted by PatColo
Why jews long ago took control of all our newspapers and teevee and most recently our internet.
I don't think they have total control of the internet. They would like that, but the net is still semi-free. It may be that we will look back on these days and days gone by and see it as the 'wild west' of the internet. The internet is a battleground right now. We can win this. I don't know that there will be anything left after it is all over though. They seem to be exercising the Samson Option wether they win or not. Crazy bastards! Information is what it is all about. You need to give up your defeatist attitude. Maybe we should all just roll over and give up because the mighty Jews have won the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewboo
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Originally Posted by woodman
:rolleyes:
Deanna's done no less than 2 more (above/beyond the OP podcast) solo/monolog shows over the past week, where she recites prepared spiels seeking to 'prove' that SH was what zion.media.gov have told us. She's mostly focused on "the dangers of SSRIs". I haven't posted them here... I was feeling sort of bad about the whole ordeal. Deanna's weeping off & on in these shows, over "the SH tragedy". I actually sent her a nice "nothing personal..." em, and she wrote back a nice reply.
the first was this Jan 21 show on AFP radio:
The Spingola Zone
and the other was 2 days later on her RBN show:
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Jan 23 2014
Thursday, Deanna ~ Sandy Hook
Deanna’s scheduled guest, Christina England was not able to make today’s broadcast. Deanna chose to talk about her research into the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting. (MP3)
Listen if you're curious-- problem with them IMHO is her reliance on zion.gov docs (death certs which no one has actually seen outside that little joo rag in joo york who got them through a FOIA request and then hoarded them; Social Sec. death records; joo rags like NYT) in making her case! As it is with 911, the perps have provided all the "evidence" she cites! 911 Whitewash Commish Report, anyone?
And re her citing the NYT as some sort of "credible source" wrt Sandy Hoax; at least a couple times she's had on as esteemed guest, Mike King of Tomatobubble.com, who publishes "The Anti-New York Times", a newsletter which deconstructs the slick/subtle propaganda MOs of the latest NYT headlines.
So with that ^ said, last night we had this more robust debate podcast, 2 hours:
Monday, January 27, 2014
DATE WITH A DEBATE: MIKE PIPER VS. JIM FETZER AND JOHN FRIEND
On Monday, January 27, 2014, at 8 p.m. ET, Dave Gahary moderates the debate many of us have been waiting for.
For two hours, Mike Piper takes on Jim Fetzer and John Friend, who tackle the controversy surrounding the Sandy Hook Elementary School event, which will address most or all of the points raised in the article “Top Ten Reasons: Sandy Hook was an Elaborate Hoax,” plus additional information which may cause you to reassess your position on whether what happened on December 14, 2012 was real or staged.
Jim has published an article on his debate with Keith Johnson and Mike has broadcast his thoughts about Jim, John and Sandy Hook.
Since John will be joining us approximately 30 minutes after the start of the show, we will begin by giving Jim a chance to respond to Mike’s broadcast and Mike to respond to Jim’s article, although neither is required to do so.
When John arrives, he will be allowed a 10 minute opening statement.
The debate will follow this format:
The moderator will ask questions to each participant where they will have no more than five minutes to present their argument and evidence. If less than the allotted time is used, it will be set aside for a less structured discussion towards the end. At the end of the debate, each participant will have no more than five minutes for their closing statement. Personal or unnecessary attacks will be met with the mute button.
A tamper-proof poll will be activated halfway through the debate allowing for only one vote per IP address. Obviously, it would make sense to cast your vote only after you are completely convinced. Don’t simply vote for one participant because you dislike the other; listen to their arguments. Please treat the vote as if you yourself were running for some sort of public office.
____________________________
Please go vote in the poll over at American Free Press. You can download the entire program here.
Here is the opening statement I prepared for this debate:
more, incl developing reader comments: http://www.john-friend.net/2014/01/d...er-vs-jim.html
See Mami's reader comments:
Date with a Debate: Mike Piper vs. Jim Fetzer and John Friend 2014.01.27
some post mortem, everyone proclaiming victory, what else is new?
Tuesday, January 28th, 2014 | Posted by Jim Fetzer
After two defeats over Sandy Hook, AFP editor declines a third debate
I won't link to TUT (where MCP hangs out) but they're crowing victory too, spewing ad homs, same old same old from TUT.
Fetzer show last Friday, 2 good guests:
Friday, January 24, 2014
Wolfgang Halbig / Sofia Smallstorm
^ MP3 link
A school security expert addresses Sandy Hook
Posted by Total at 11:41 PM 12 comments:
First hour guest Wolfgang.. is the subject of:
Retired Cop and Educator Threatened for Questioning Sandy Hook Investigation 265
Guest Posts, Interviews • Tags: gun control, police state, Sandy Hook Elementary
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...asT-oQsg3NZ059
By Wolfgang W. Halbig*
The correspondence below was sent by Wolfgang Halbig to Connecticut State Police Lieutenant J. Paul Vance and Newtown Police Chief Michael Kehoe on January 22, 2014. A retired Florida State Trooper, US Customs Inspector, school administrator, security consultant and entrepreneur, Mr. Halbig has independently researched the Sandy Hook Massacre for over one year.
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