The "Israel did 9/11" Thread

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Originally Posted by PatColo

So sayanims are a factor in the "success" of the Global Usury Empire crime syndicate, no doubt, but "Jews" aren't all cut from the same cloth; and referring to them as though they are (like Delaney/prothink tend to do) is a good way to instantly discredit your message. Jews as a group appear to me to be among the more successfully/tragically brainwashed populations around.

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PatColo: Ever notice that just before the next Pogrom every single Jew claims they ain't like those "other" bad Jews? Who sends the ADL and AIPAC and Israel all those shekels every year?

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About Jewish American Heritage Month

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Jews as a group appear to me...

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You yourself notice that they are a group. A very well organized group. Their tribal cohesion is legendary.

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"Israel Did 911: Some Street Activism For You"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB2x2H-YZaA

mexico did 911

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Originally Posted by UFM

mexico did 911

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I did 9/11

911 was a masterpiece black-ops event. It still is because whoever did it is maintaining an active campaign to prevent people from investigating it themselves. Why are there 911 Truth forums all over the internet?

I suspect it's because somebody wants us all to believe a lie. The 911 Commission Report. What has happened is that 911 has 'politicized' the truth. The truth is what is politically correct. The next step is to turn those who are politically incorrect into terrorists. 'You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists.' You cannot politicize the truth. Politics is nothing but opinions. The truth is not anybody's opinion. It's what you see and believe. Usually based on evidence.

So, if you don't believe the official story, don't be too surprised if they treat you as a terrorist.

I'm trying to imagine how immense the lie is, and how well hidden the truth is. We must be getting real close to it because there is a law in the works to give the president the power to shut off the internet.

I've seen statistics that as many as 70% of Americans don't believe the official story of 911. I wonder what happens when nobody believes it? Hitler said if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it. The bigger the lie, the stronger their belief. Nobody ever proved that Hitler burned down the Reichstag. And after the people who did 911 start the next nuclear world war, it won't matter who did 911.

Hatha

when nobody believe it they will do the same thing you are doing now

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mexico did 911

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I did 9/11

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Did you wear a condom?

i went to a protest at the Israeli embassy in SF this last week.

i was thinking about putting "Israel did 9-11" on my sign but i was concerned it would alienate the Palestinians & Arabs present, like i was hijacking their protest or something.

i talked to one Palestinian woman and she said they wouldn't mind that at all. it was too loud to talk about the details.

anyway, something to put on my sign for the next protest.

NY Times 9/12/01:


A DAY OF TERROR: THE ISRAELIS; Spilled Blood
Is Seen as Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer

By JAMES BENNET
Published: September 12, 2001

JERUSALEM, Sept. 11� Israeli officials and most Palestinian leaders condemned the attack on the United States today. But Israelis also took cold comfort in concluding that Americans would now share more of their fears, while some Palestinians rejoiced at the same thought.

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Brother Nathaniel, allegedly a Jew who changed to Christianity,

9/11’s Unanswered Question

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8X7-...layer_embedded

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/Zmag911_dees.jpg

Kevin Barrett's recent 'Truth Jihad Radio' show had Chris Bollyn on for the first hour.

Here's the MP3 - 2 hrs, 28 MBs, but only the first hour is relevant.

Barrett's blog writeup:

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First hour: Christopher Bollyn, author of Solving 9/11 - the most comprehensive book on Israeli involvement in the 9/11 attacks. Christopher Bollyn has just made public new evidence concerning the destruction of 9/11 evidence. He writes:

I look forward to discussing the destruction of the steel from the World Trade Center on Saturday, December 18. I am sending you the following information so that you understand the basics of what I will be talking about. To understand the Mossad role in the destruction of the steel from the WTC is to understand a very crucial part of the 9/11 crime. I posted a piece that discusses the Mossadniks who ran the international trading network at Hugo Neu Schnitzer. These two Mossad punks, Nathan Fruchter and Jehuda Saar, had worked for Marc Rich at Glencore AG and other companies he ran in Stamford, Connecticut since the mid-1990s. Hugo Neu is the company that recycled much of the steel from the World Trade Center by sending it to Chinese mills where it was melted. The article is here> http://www.bollyn.com/wikileaks-and-the-911-crime-gang There is much more to Hugo Neu's connection to the Mossad. Hugo Neu, which was created by the current owner's father, who was originally working with Walter Rothschild and Meno Lippauer when they all came from Germany, is an investor in this Mossad venture capital fund: AquaAgroFund http://www.aquagrofund.com/Investors.aspx#HugoNeu One of the managing partners of the AquaAgroFund is Nir Belzer, who is co-founder of the Millenium Material Technologies Funds. http://www.aquagrofund.com/Team.aspx#Nir Which he founded with Oren Gafri, who specializes in military applications of thin coatings, exactly like what was used at the World Trade Center on 9/11 http://www.mmtfund.com/management.html I hope to be able to get the chapter on this subject written in the next few days.

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ETA: I see Bollyn also has a blog entry regarding his appearance with Barrett:
Kevin Barrett Show with Bollyn on Destruction of 9/11 Steel

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I look forward to discussing the destruction of the steel from the World Trade Center

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Imagine the day when one of these "History Channel" documentaries on 9/11 details that gray area of the entire experience. :oo-->

a relevant website -

http://www.IsraelDid9-11.com/


since we seem to agree among ourselves that Israel did 9-11, with assistance from Israel-supporters in the US government (e.g. Dick Cheney's office) ... Why ?

this didn't become clear to me until Operation Cast Lead, when Israel attacked the Palestinians (again), making sure to finish their killing of civilians during Bush's last month in office.

it was almost as though it were scripted.

and that was the same reaction i had to the wierdness surrounding Bush's appointment as pResident in 2000.

my best guess is that 9-11 was part of a larger plan. that plan is actually spelled out fairly clearly in the PNAC documents. PNAC - Project for a New American Century ? No, I think, more like, Project for a New Israeli Century (PNIC) - or Project for a New Jewish Century (PNJC).


Therefore, I will spell out Israel's plan - which is essentially to re-make the mid-East in Israel's image -

1998-2000 lay the groundwork for the appointment of an American president who would be supportive of 9-11.

2000 steal the election, get "your boys" in office.

9-11-2001

2002 attack Afghanistan - station US troops to the East of Iran.

2003 attack Iraq based on fraud - station US troops to the West of Iran.

2005 July 7 - false flag attack in London. again the technique of simultaneous war-games is used.

( Got to remind people that there is a War on (of) Terror going on ! )

2008 Mumbai - bring India into the fold.

2008/2009 Operation Cast Lead


December 27, 2010 - Mission Accomplished - Palestinians completely on the ropes, America almost completely in the hands of Israel supporters.

what i have noticed about high-tech corporate America since 9-11 is the overwhelming preponderance of Jews in high management positions. in the 1980's & 1990's, i had Jewish co-workers, and sometimes worked for Jewish managers - but Silicon Valley appeared to be a meritocracy.

since 9-11, applicants need one more pre-requisite for entry into the management ranks. it's not enough to pay lip service to the War on/of Terror ... management wannabe's must support the War on/or Terror with Alacrity - in other words, cheerfully and vigorously.

partially because one of the primary growth areas in American industry is "homeland security". when you're using your Powerpoint Engineering skills to go after one of those big fat juicy contracts, you can't start your presentation with a slide that says, "Israel did 9-11". You have to join the party and talk about Scary Muslims.


oh ... i almost forgot.

there seems to be some overlap between the Silverstein Mafia in New York City, and the NYC Banksters who benefited from all the credit crisis bail-outs.

they're all Jews who Support Israel.

once an administration was in place who could be counted on not to investigate 9-11, why not do another pirate raid and steal more $trillions ? Iraq has 110 billion barrels worth of oil - worth about $9.9 Trillion with oil at $90 a barrel, partially because Iraq's oil is light sweet easy-to-refine, low-recovery-cost crude.

they - the Zionists - were willing to kill 3000 Gentiles on 9-11 in support of their plan for, literally, world domination. why not use an engineered credit crisis to rob US taxpayers of a few $Trillion more ?


i'm not sure if the banking crisis was on the Zionists' original 10 or 20 year plan. it may have been more like their version of looting during Hurrican Katrina - just taking advantage of the situation.

Most Americans, over 95% in my personal experience, are still buying the 'scary mooslems did it' narrative. When I mention Zionists, Building 7 etc. they get this glazed over look as if to say "what is this crazy guy talking about." It would appear that the Zionist version of 9-11, like the Holohoax, will become the people's gospel for decades to come. The goyim are truly doomed. :(

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Originally Posted by mamboni

The goyim are truly doomed. :(

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Quoted for truth. gunDriller wrote a nice summary of how and why.

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The goyim are truly doomed. :(

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Quoted for truth. gunDriller wrote a nice summary of how and why.

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thanks.

i'd rather write a nice summary of how we fought back.

congregating at GIM & G-S.us is a start, along with all our other prep stuff.

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Originally Posted by PatColo

Kevin Barrett's recent 'Truth Jihad Radio' show had Chris Bollyn on for the first hour.

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Interesting development in the "real v shill truther wars". Y'all know I've referenced the blog wtcdemolition.com many times, a "ZIHOP" site with good dialog and a side-hobby of calling out fake truthers, fake/co-opted truth sites etc- in fact several refugees who've been banned from the fake truth sites for being too truthy/ZIHOPey, end up there.

WTCD blogger "Gretavo" aka "Real Truther" made some disparaging remarks about Chris Bollyn's recent contributions re mossad's central role in disposing of the WTC steel. Bollyn saw them, and on Christmas day made a blog update asking "Who is Gretavo Verdadero?", and proceeds to identify who he is, as well as linking to supporting references- one link is bulletproof, namely this Harvard Crimson article profiling Gretavo who's been a prominent 911T activist at Harvard campus for years: Staffer Seeks 9/11 Truth, and several less reliable links from anonymous messageboard users alleging that Gretavo is a spook. Bollyn doesn't call Gretavo a spook, but links to what he found and then moves on.

I surely would've completely missed Bollyn's writeup on Gretavo (Bollyn needs a serious site-design overhaul!), had Gretavo not replied yesterday at his blog with Christopher Bollyn Jumps the Shark- concluding that Bollyn is a shoddy researcher, and a racist.

Who's right? Wrong? :dunno I've long respected both of them for their work, and I categorically allow for the possibility that either or both could be spooks. I did have an extremely weird experience with WTCD about a year ago when I briefly registered my same "PatColo" handle at the site, with my old 6-finger Greenspan avatar, and in a surreal chain of events, was banned after about 5 posts, with Gretavo suggesting I was a spook! The avatar made them edgy coz they suspected I was a seekrit joo-hater, I guess. If you browse his blog entries, you find he thinks everyone who's not him or the tiny WTCD clique, are spooks. But I still check in there, as it's a platform for some unique dialog & perspectives which are censored from numerous "911T sites of dubious repute".

Here's some vids of Gretavo's street activism at Harvard,

You gotta watch this one just for the funky tune, "911 Truth Now - A Day in the Life of Real Truther"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTKHSTKG4RM

"Real Truther Confronts Douglas Feith" - good one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUymIQQoR28

"Harvard Student Activists in Denial (SAD)" - I believe Gretavo is behind camera here, outside a scheduled Howard Zinn speech; he's confronting several Zinn fans who came to see him, "peace activists" who don't support (believe? aware of?) 911 Truth, asking them how they feel that Howard Zinn is a 911 Truther- good stuff,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qdzel3uU8Zs

Lest We Forget–Police Report of the Israeli Mossad Officers Arrested on 9/11

http://theuglytruth.files.wordpress....pg?w=264&h=270

Good new ad for WTC 7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=eHo5hNCvLb4

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Originally Posted by mamboni

Good new ad for WTC 7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=eHo5hNCvLb4

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thats even better than the first one IMO

thanks Mamboni

The Ugly Truth Podcast April 3, 2011

http://theuglytruth.podbean.com/mf/web/jrdawg/911a.jpg

As with all criminal investigations, the first question begins with one word–WHO? Dr Ed Kendrik and Peter Ray from www.rediscover911.com join the program to discuss their work in putting a name and a face on those responsible for the worst terrorist attack in American history–ISRAEL.

Direct MP3 Download

http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/201...-their-agenda/

Jesse Ventura's 9/11 theory: Dick Cheney "allowed it to happen to further their agenda"

Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura was a guest on "Piers Morgan Tonight" this evening, and gave his theory on what happened on 9/11. "I believe Dick Cheney knew it," said Ventura. "It's not rational" countered Piers Morgan.

"They allowed it to happen to further their agenda in the Middle East," said Ventura – Piers described the theory as "madness."

From last year, great article w/many footnoted sources. Jonathan Azaziah is routinely a guest on The Ugly Truth Podcast, just skim there for his name. Also check out Azaziah's other essays at his blog, MaskOfZion.


Friday, September 17, 2010
9/11: Israel's Grand Deception
by Jonathan Azaziah

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Monday, July 4, 2011

Two grassroots plans for 9/11 justice: Alan Sabrosky, Sen. Mike Gravel on KB Show Tuesday

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Tuesday, July 5th, 9 - 11 a.m Pacific on NoLiesRadio.org (archived here a few hours after broadcast):

Two-hour commercial-free special: Alan Sabrosky and Sen. Mike Gravel propose grassroots plans for 9/11 justice.

First hour: Alan Sabrosky, author of the new article Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake, touts a grassroots outreach campaign targeting local veterans organizations. Details here. Dr. Alan Sabrosky, Ph.D. University of Michigan, is the former Director of Studies of the Strategic Studies Institute of the US Army War College.

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easier to read the following at the source - paste job lost paragraph breaks! - PC

Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake — Alan Sabrosky

- 29. Jun, 2011 in 9/11, Commentary/Analysis, Israel, Middle east, News/Politics, U.S. Foreign Policy, War, World, Zionism -
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I am also absolutely certain as a strategic analyst that 9/11 itself, from which all else flows, was a classic Mossad-orchestrated operation. But Mossad did not do it alone.

by Dr. Alan Sabrosky / My Catbird Seat


http://mycatbirdseat.com/wp-content/...1BIG-Image.jpgMany years ago I read a fascinating discussion of the “tactics of mistake.” This essentially entailed using a target’s prejudices and preconceptions to mislead them as to the origin and intent of the attack, entrapping them in a tactical situation that later worked to the attacker’s strategic advantage.
This is what unfolded in the 9/11 attacks that led us into the matrix of wars and conflicts, present (Afghanistan and Iraq), planned (Iran and Syria) and projected (Jordan and Egypt), that benefit Israel and no other country — although I concede that many private contractors and politicians are doing very well for themselves out of the death and misery of others.
I am also absolutely certain as a strategic analyst that 9/11 itself, from which all else flows, was a classic Mossad-orchestrated operation. But Mossad did not do it alone. They needed local help within America (and perhaps elsewhere) and they had it, principally from some alumni of PNAC (the misnamed Project for a New American Century) and their affiliates within and outside of the US Government (USG), who in the 9/11 attacks got the “catalytic event” they needed and craved to take the US to war on Israel’s behalf, only eight months after coming into office.
Genesis of the Deception
That was not how it seemed at first, of course. Lists of names and associations of the alleged hijackers quickly surfaced in official US accounts and mainstream media (MSM) reports, pointing to Osama bin Laden and his Al-Qaeda group, then largely in Afghanistan. Bin Laden denied responsibility, saying in effect that while he thanked Allah that the attacks had occurred, he had not done it, but the US demanded that the Taliban governing Afghanistan turn him over to the US. The Taliban response was reasonable: “Show us the evidence he did it and we’ll give him to you.” But the US brushed it off and attacked. Why? Because it had no convincing evidence, and never would — even on the eve of his public death in 2011, the FBI did not include 9/11 on his internet-based “Most Wanted” charge sheet.
As the war in Afghanistan for very dubious reasons extended into a war in Iraq for even more specious ones, the essential USG view of 9/11 became embedded in the public ethos. The 9/11 Commission Report, despite being handicapped when it was prepared and later revealed to have been deeply flawed, still appeared as the basic reference work on the attacks. Details may have been compromised, but the prevailing view was that 19 Arab hijackers had flown four planes into three buildings and one crash site, and that was the end of it. This was the position taken by the Bush Administration in 2001, and reaffirmed a decade later by the Obama Administration. Politicians of every stripe, most pundits and rafts of Protestant pastors (mainly evangelical) added their endorsements.
Neither I nor most Americans had any particular reason to doubt the veracity of these claims, then or later. Nonetheless, I had strong suspicions that something was very wrong with the official US account of the tragedy only weeks after the incident, while responding to a request from a local journalist for background information. Too much made no sense whatsoever: warnings after the fact when there should have been no warnings, bizarre misbehavior by the alleged hijackers that ran counter to both the mission and their faith, skills required that far exceeded any skills the named hijackers themselves could ever have possessed for the mission, and especially the total absence of any recognition for what they had done from anyone except their supposed victims – something without precedent for actions of the sort that supposedly happened on 9/11. These and similar discontinuities reinforced my suspicion that something in the entire exercise was rotten to the core.
Potentially far more significant than individual musings was the gradual appearance of dissent that eventually crystallized in the so-called “9/11 Truth” movement, which rapidly proliferated into scores of major and many minor organizations and websites dissecting the attacks, the Commission report, the motivations and agendas of assorted elected and appointed officials, and alternatives to the orthodox view. But “9/11 Truthers” have been doing their version of the Maoist “Hundred Flowers” Campaign, throwing out so many different assessments of so many different aspects of so many different issues that the core message has been lost. Nor is it a matter of too little evidence invalidating the USG position on 9/11 being available, but too much to permit a clear focus on what happened (so many trees no one can really see the forest).
Mind you, it isn’t that what has been presented is irrelevant or even necessarily wrong, although some pretty bizarre theses have been tossed around along with a good deal of thoughtful and balanced work. A substantial segment also have resisted closure under any circumstances – especially when Israel came into the equation in any way – thus keeping the rhetorical pot boiling inconclusively, more than a few for reasons that could not withstand close scrutiny as to their affiliation and motivation.
Critiquing the 9/11 Critique
The real difficulty with much, but not all, of the effort to critique and question the official US position on 9/11 is that the “9/11 Truth” proponents have been unable to communicate their concerns – much less any conclusions – to the general public in any significant way. So much of the discussion is only partially comprehensible to some within the movement, largely unknown to the general US public, and so complicated in all its dimensions to those who do become aware of it that they fail to follow up on the arguments. It is as if critics of the official position on 9/11 have been attempting to try the case in court before they have even gotten an indictment – the analytical equivalent of putting the argumentative cart before the public horse of the need to rethink the issue, thereby creating an evidentiary Gordian Knot of sorts.
This analogy has long struck me as an appropriate way of rethinking our approach to the 9/11 controversy. It is not that the issue isn’t complex – it is, in ever so many ways, and that complexity would have to be addressed at some point, but there is no need to confuse the public with its complexity at the very beginning.
Remember that at least in the US, the evidence and voting requirements are very different in a grand jury which can issue an indictment, than they are in a petit jury that actually tries the case. The latter needs proof of guilt; but the former only needs sufficient indication that a specific crime may have been committed, and that the accused may have done it. That is where we need to go, and where I will take this argument: to focus on those essentials necessary for an indictment in a way that will be understandable and credible to a reasonably intelligent person without requiring them to have the skills of (e.g.) a civil engineer or an aviator.
Peeling Away the Layered Details
There are so many flaws in the official US Government’s position on 9/11 that it is sometimes difficult to know just where to start. For example, the miraculous survival of a passport, used to identify one of the hijackers, which somehow worked its way through the aircraft’s impact, explosion, fire, and an 800-plus foot free-fall to be found by a well-dressed man and given to a New York City police detective at the base of the twin towers is a standout. The superstar-like ability of named pilots to go from the controls of a single-engine propeller-driven light plane to the cockpit of a passenger airliner and do anything except put it into the ground within a minute of turning off the autopilot is another – who would ever have thought that the Microsoft Flight Simulator program was so superlative? And the explanations given for the multiple failures of NORAD (the North American Air Defense Command) to have fighters on all four planes within minutes of their straying off course are individually dubious and collectively preposterous – only in Hollywood would they have any credence, perhaps because that is where they originated.
The debate on these and many other points, and the implications thereof, has been extensive and sometimes ferocious, even if not particularly effective. What is not open to debate, however, is that WTC-7 — the third tower to collapse that day, and the only one not hit by a plane — absolutely was brought down by a controlled demolition, as anyone not trying to shield the attackers knows from a real-time video of its collapse. That is, WTC-7 went straight down into its own footprint in seconds without any visible catastrophic external trauma, which means only some catastrophic internal trauma could have brought it down. And if it had been wired for a controlled demolition, then so were the other towers (WTC-1 and WTC-2) that collapsed. That gives the plane impacts a gruesome cosmetic role, designed explicitly to conceal the true cause of the collapse of the buildings, while shocking the public into something akin to numbness.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMdLVw3AsV4


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Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake — Alan Sabrosky

Thanks PatColo! You are truly indefatiguable in the battle for the truth over lies. And some day, probably many years from now, truth will triumph over lies, as it always eventually does, and the name PatColo will be inducted into the Pantheon of the Faithful who protected and preserved the flame of truth through the long dark days.

New Information

The Explosions in the World Trade Center Buildings, started, before the planes HIT, according to U.S. Geological Data.


We still have our own problems, that will NOT go away, about our supposed "best friend and Middle East Ally", ISRAEL, who did plan and execute 9/11/01, murdered 3,000 Americans, and we are still paying for it.


Here is some new material on the 9/11/01 attacks, that many may have not seen or heard about, that is truly incriminating for Israel. After all Israel controlled ALL WORLD TRADE CENTER Buildings as well as access to them:


From: Jim Fetzer

Questions about 9/11 Jim Fetzer

As a former Marine Corps officer (1962-66), who spent his 35-year career offering courses in logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning to college students, it troubles me when my government appears to be lying to the American people. On this 4th of July, therefore, I want to share with you some of the questions that have arisen in my mind about the events of 9/11, which have been used to justify wars in Iraq and Afghanistan at enormous cost in lives lost and resources expended. I don’t claim to have all of the answers, but here are some of my questions—seven for the 4th of July!

(1) The early explosions
In their study, “Seismic Proof: 9/11 was an inside job”, Gordon Ross and Craig Furlong (one an engineer, one a numerical analyst) present evidence that there were enormous explosions in the subbasements of both of the Twin Towers prior to the impacts of any planes on those buildings. They used extremely reliable data from a geological laboratory run by Columbia University and radar and FAA data to come to the conclusion that those explosions occurred 14 and 17 seconds before those planes hit the towers:


My first question, therefore, is how were those 19 Islamic terrorists able to arrange these explosions, which drained the water from sprinkler systems that would have otherwise extinguished the rather modest office fires that remained after the jet fuel was consumed in those spectacular fireballs? I have given this a lot of thought and I can’t figure out how they did that.

thanks for the kudos 2 posts up Mambo, quite the turn of phrase. O0

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New Information
From: Jim Fetzer

Questions about 9/11 Jim Fetzer

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I still don't trust Fetzer. It seems he went through a sort of rehab/reinvention of his former discredited "truther" image, even pointing the finger at the perps of 911 - the zionists. He was for a time on the "development group" of this otherwise very credible ZIHOP 911 Truth site:
http://rediscover911.com/
... but I notice Fetzer is no longer displayed in that list (top right). His 2009 article- Is 9/11 research ‘anti-Semitic’? - still appears at the site.

Fetzer is still peddling "no planes at WTC/ video fakery" which insults the intelligence of real truthers & noobs alike-- the exact point of such a ploy- sow division in the movement and turn away noobs before they get around to reviewing any of the real issues.

Fetzer was on Kevin Barrett's radio show recently, MP3 here: 06/27/2011 Monday - 1st Hour: With Jim Fetzer. 2nd Hour: With Stephen Lendman.
Barrett gives him general respect but also asks good questions about the problems with Fetzers "no planes @ WTC" noise.

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Saturday, June 25, 2011

Jim Fetzer, Stephen Lendman on TJ Radio Monday


Truth Jihad Radio Mon. 6/27/11, 1-3 pm Central, American Freedom Radio(archived here.) Call-in number: (402) 237-2525 or post your questions to my Facebook page.

First hour: Jimhttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zrRCpJE8iP...mes_Fetzer.jpg Fetzer explains his latest article "9/11: Seismic Proof + Video Fakery = An Inside Job." I don't understand the relationship between the seismic proof (Ross and Furlong's study showing that the first explosion in the North Tower happened 14-17 seconds before the plane impacts) and the video fakery issue. But apparently Jim does...

Note: Dr. James Fetzer will be speaking on July 20 at the University of Minnesota-Duluth campus in Bohannon Hall Room 90 starting at 7 pm, with doors opening at 6 pm. That hall seats 350 people. Jim's talk is titled: "Were the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq justified by the events of 9/11/01?"

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the wealth of ZIHOP info at http://rediscover911.com/ is certainly worth a review.

This short <3 min MP3 clip is from an NPR radio show discussing 911 CTs, with host, guest & caller all playing the "deeply offended" card at the idea of the tribe's involvement in 911.

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A spokesperson for Jewish people explains that the Jews (international bankers?) are deeply offended by any inferences that they had anything to do with causing 9-11: Jews are offended by inferences that Jews had anything to do with 9-11. National Public Radio (NPR) has been complicit in the cover-up of 9-11 evidence and has actively worked to avoid 9-11 information on their website and in their “investigative news” pieces.

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The guest even throws out the limited hangout suggestion that the "anti-Semite's" assertions re the tribe's involvement consists merely of the zio's having co-opted and led scary moozlemismist patsies...

also liked this pic I see at the site:

http://rediscover911.com/wp-content/...7.47.17-AM.png

Dr. Alan Sabrosky: Israel behind 9/11, Part II

Chris Bollyn finished writing his book a couple months ago, & he posted these remarks to his blog at that time, Final Chapters of Solving 9/11 Published
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here's link to the full book, which he makes free online,
The Book - Solving 9-11: The Deception that Changed the World

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Dr. Alan Sabrosky: Israel behind 9/11, Part II

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terrific 24 min video inside- the kryptonite which the Western ZioStream Media [ZSM] won't touch:


9/11 and Israel: Alan Sabrosky’s Shocking Press TV Interview

“We Know Who, We Even Know Why…”


Tying Israel Irrevocably to 9/11

By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
This week, Dr. Alan Sabrosky, Managing Editor at Veterans Today, was interviewed on 9/11 and Israel’s involvement and their influence in American affairs. Dr. Sabrosky is interviewed by Susan Modaress of Press TV. Runtime is 20 minutes.

Alan, I call him that, a fellow editor, fellow Marine and good friend, does what few do when discussing issues of such extreme controversy. Alan sticks to the facts, takes the facts to logical conclusions and stops there. Any American of any political leaning or ethnicity can and should, out of patriotism and out of sanity, watch this interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n8536CogZo

The case made is a case that will stand up in a court of law, a case not contrived for entertainment, for propaganda or for an emotional “fix,” feeding hate, prejudice or the desire by some for conspiracies to fill the void of a life bereft of meaning.

Alan Sabrosky is “serious as a heart attack.”

There is an underlying message to this interview, intended or not. Dr. Sabrosky establishes a defensible position and sets limits.

A majority of Americans are aware that 9/11 had clear signs of government complicity, both operationally and in the subsequent investigation that even Judge Napolitano and Geraldo Rivera of Rupert Murcoch’s FOX NEWS called a “whitewash.” A major Australian poll taken last fall showed 77% of people there believe the US government to be fully complicit in 9/11. Similar polls in the US regularly score over 50%, some much higher.

Sabrosky’s case, presented with much clarity, plants responsibility for 9/11 at the feet of Israel and Americans whose loyalties, if we can call them that, are certainly not to the United States. That these “Americans” now believed to be complicit in the planning and execution of the 9/11 terror attacks are, for the most part, officials of the government, is telling.

Their complicity couldn’t be more obvious if they were caught standing with the detonation switches in their hands.

Israel is a different story, a public relationship characterized as “close friendship” and a private one that more closely resembles that between America and the Soviet Union at the height of the Cold War.

Most Americans are not aware of how the relationship between Israel and the United States has soured over the past 40 years. Behind an endless barrage of stories of the holocaust and fear mongering about Antisemitism, political extremists in Israel and their allies in the US, many in positions of extreme power and influence, have contrived to seriously harm the United States, ostensibly under the guise of “support for Israel” and misrepresented security issues.

Sabrosky calls it “high treason.”

Below, the forgotten Geraldo Rivera report on 9/11, now “disappeared” from history, from the archives, forgotten and victim of its own “coverup.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFPobKeSzKQ&feature=player_embedded
YouTube - Veterans Today -

Postscript
Beyond this, the past decade has bombarded the American public and the world with wildly conflicting conspiracy theories and phony science, the worst of it from the American government itself.


What can I say as a postscript or commentary to the interview? Liberal, conservative, Jew, Gentile, what Alan Sabrosky says is simply the truth. He has the credentials and the character to know the truth.


The message:
Believing the government and mainstream media’s version of 9/11 and allowing Israeli “dual citizens” to serve in government or electing and appointing officials whose relationship with Israel is detrimental to the security of the United States is inconsistent with citizen responsibility for any American.


Related Interview:
Declassified: Massive Israeli manipulation of US media exposed

Good a time as any to bump this thread- 10th anniversary weekend and all- let us all remember who did 911!

and no, not scary moozlemists! (like the real 911 perps' global propaganda apparatus is going to try to "remind you", like, ad nausium!) ;)

So needless to say, the Defamation Experts have been busy busy, as 911+10 has approached. From the blog about a recent Kevin Barrett radio show:

Wednesday, September 7, 2011

Jim Dean on leaked Zionist "smear the delegitimizers" memo; David Ray Griffin's assistant Tod Fletcher on DRG's new book!

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Professional smear-artist Abe Foxman of the ADL, one of the perhaps 300,000 criminals acting as illegal, unregistered agents of a foreign power here in the USA, apparently followed the orders of this memo when he libeled me, Gordon Duff, Alan Sabrosky, and Jim Fetzer, calling us the "most popular" advocates of the "antisemitic" notion that Israel had something to do with 9/11. High praise indeed!
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You'll find the above snip links to this article at ADL.org - now, notice the masterful Chutzpah Maneuver you find demonstrated in the Defamation Experts' choice of title for this latest smear piece, ;D;)

Decade of Deceit:
Anti-Semitic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 10 Years Later

Thanks for bumping this PatColo.

The "Dancing Israelis" FBI Report - Debunked

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You'll find the above snip links to this article at ADL.org - now, notice the masterful Chutzpah Maneuver you find demonstrated in the Defamation Experts' choice of title for this latest smear piece, ;D;)

Decade of Deceit:
Anti-Semitic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories 10 Years Later

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recent podcast, direct mp3 link at bottom:


The Ugly Truth Podcast September 5, 2011

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Despite the overwhelming evidence linking Israel with the events of 9/11, nevertheless, according to Mob Lawyer Abe Foxman of the ADL, such evidence is just–surprise, surprise–ANTI-SEMITISM. We are joined by writer/thinker extraordinaire Jonathon Azaziah and newest member of the pro-America/pro-truth/pro-justice family John Friend to discuss these and other important issues.


mp3: Download Here

Good info on this thread!

9/11 'Conspiracy Theory' Primer - Mossad False Flag - 10 yr Anniversary Special

19 cave-dwelling muslim terrorists with boxcutters?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uPIKQLDGby...t%2Battack.jpg

Or could those 'conspiracy theorists' actually be right?

'Official' story crumbling

The wildest 'conspiracy theory' about 9/11 is the one peddled by our glorious and trusted government and controlled 'news' media -- that 9/11 was perpetrated by a nebulous muslim terrorist group called "al-Qaeda", masterminded by evil genius Osama bin Laden from a cave, with no apparent motivation other than that "they hate our freedoms."

Thankfully, most of the world and even now over half of the American public does not buy this cock and bull story.

How could cave dwellers who could barely fly a plane pull off such a sophisticated attack? How did the twin towers collapse at free fall speed, as in a controlled demolition? Did bin Laden cause the the U.S. Air Defense to stand down on that morning? Given that they lied about the pretext for the war in Iraq, could 9/11 be a staged event used as the justification to kick-start all these wars?

After looking deeper than the spoon-fed fairytale from the government and media, and seriously examining the evidence surrounding 9/11, the overwhelming conclusion is that the 9/11 attacks were a 'false flag operation' perpetrated by the Israeli Mossad, carried out via the complicity of the jewish-controlled U.S. Government and the jewish-controlled Western media.

So what really happened and why? First off, a look back at history is necessary.

http://thy-weapon-of-war.blogspot.com/

John Friend got up in San Diego and said end the fed, & izzy did 911, and....... the zio/fake-protesters got all upset at the latter... lol, 2 mins:

John Friend addressing Occupy San Diego- booed by fascists and shills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-XdpTxOnk

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John Friend got up in San Diego and said end the fed, & izzy did 911, and....... the zio/fake-protesters got all upset at the latter... lol, 2 mins:

John Friend addressing Occupy San Diego- booed by fascists and shills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-XdpTxOnk

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I'm at work and cannot view Youtube. But the fact that someone can even speak publically about Israel doing 911 is very encouraging. At minimum, it's going to plant a seed in alot of people's minds. I think everyone these days is questioning things they had assumed to be true a few years ago, what with the entire system proving to be one big Ponzi scam.

It's important to keep repeating one name when discussing 911:

Dr. Alan Sabrosky

"What we need to stand up and say is not only did they attack the USS Liberty, they did 9/11. They did it. I have had long conversations over the past two weeks with contacts at the Army War College, at it's headquarters, Marine Corps and I made it absolutely clear in both cases that it is 100 percent certain that 9/11 was a Mossad operation. Period." -
Dr. Alan Sabrosky, March 14, 2010 - listen to podcast

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It's important to keep repeating one name when discussing 911:

Dr. Alan Sabrosky

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see his sign, read the whole article @ link:

Sunday, October 9, 2011

Why are you participating in Occupy San Diego?


I went down to the Occupy San Diego camp out at the Martin Luther King Promenade in downtown San Diego yesterday afternoon. I brought the double-sided sign I made, and took some brief videos of people I ran into asking them why they were there participating. I will be back down there later on this afternoon, and will have more video and photos coming soon. Stay tuned.

You could literally see the cognitive dissonance expressed on the faces of many people at Occupy San Diego when they saw my "Israel Behind 9/11" sign. It's about time people were exposed to these issues in an major way. :)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1JPF2iwdva...0/P1010376.JPG