Police use Assault Weapons and Tank against Home School Mom wanting to protect

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Originally Posted by dys

This is a nonanswer. When I enroll my kid in school, for instance, they do not hand me a document listing the specific requirements associated with the so called 'priviledge'. The requirements may be vaguely insinuated by the American Jurisprudence, and in other places, but that is totally irrelevant as the American Jurisprudence is not contracting with parents enrolling their kids in schools. If the school does not hand me a contract listing the specific terms of said contract, then I have not contracted with the school outside of what is specifically and clearly disclosed in said contract. This is ridiculously obvious and you know that. If you and I make a contract for you to redo my septic system, for example, I cannot write an obscure internet document that says that you also have to do my electrical work, not tell you about it, and then claim that you should have known better and threaten to kill you. Fundamental common sense- the only things contracted for in contracts are those things that are specifically disclosed in contracts.
What else you got?

dys

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Go in and ask to see the student rule book or school administration policies,ask if you kid can attend without filling out the forms see what they tell you. Home school if you want. Write up your own contract for a private school if you like.

There is more than one type of contract, some are called adhesion contracts, citizenship has elements of a contract the offer (citizenship) your parents accepted a birth cert , and you used it to enroll in school and most likely haven changed you status as a US citizen,consideration is the duties and privileges a citizen is required to perform such as registering with selective service or right to hold public office, time, you remain a citizen until you expatriate.

The terms for SS are laid out in title 42 of the UScode sec.301-305

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Originally Posted by po boy

Go in and ask to see the student rule book or school administration policies,ask if you kid can attend without filling out the forms see what they tell you. Home school if you want. Write up your own contract for a private school if you like.

There is more than one type of contract, some are called adhesion contracts, citizenship has elements of a contract the offer (citizenship) your parents accepted a birth cert , and you used it to enroll in school and most likely haven changed you status as a US citizen,consideration is the duties and privileges a citizen is required to perform such as registering with selective service or right to hold public office, time, you remain a citizen until you expatriate.

The terms for SS are laid out in title 42 of the UScode sec.301-305

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In other words, the terms of your 'contracts' are created after the fact by one party at the expense of the other....actually it's worse than that as they are NEVER disclosed in a specific way to ANYONE.

dys

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Originally Posted by dys

In other words, the terms of your 'contracts' are created after the fact by one party at the expense of the other....actually it's worse than that as they are NEVER disclosed in a specific way to ANYONE.

dys

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The US con, the organic laws of the US, your state statues and con, the US code and on and on are not disclosed?
It's public record! Ever heard of a freedom of information act?

It may be better for you to have .gov as your babbysitter as you fail at taking even the most minimum of effort to even look.

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Originally Posted by po boy

The US con, the organic laws of the US, your state statues and con, the US code and on and on are not disclosed?
It's public record! Ever heard of a freedom of information act?

It may be better for you to have .gov as your babbysitter as you fail at taking even the most minimum of effort to even look.

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Red herring. Nowhere in the US Constitution, even if interpreted in the ass backward way that the criminals interpret it, does it say that if I contract with a school that they can kidnap my kid. And nowhere does it say in the school contract that they can kidnap my kid in exchange for the benefit.

dys

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Originally Posted by dys

Red herring. Nowhere in the US Constitution, even if interpreted in the ass backward way that the criminals interpret it, does it say that if I contract with a school that they can kidnap my kid. And nowhere does it say in the school contract that they can kidnap my kid in exchange for the benefit.

dys

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So what does it say? Post it.

This is just more joe king and po boy bullshit, trying to blame the victims, as usual. Statist defenders, oligarch enablers.

The people in America and Canada are born on this soil, and are raised by parents who get them SS numbers because they have been told they have to if they want to go to school or have a job. It's the "norm" and to not get a SS# is radical and extremely incovenient for all parties involved.

The people have been inculcated with dogma to get their number, and it is absolutely wackey to even consider living your life without one, as far as 99.9% of the population is concerned. So here is Po boy taking up the torch for Joe king, insisting on deflecting the blame from the tyranical and bloated government that is slowly stripping away your rights and freedoms, and onto you.

As far as po boy is concerned, it's your fault for sitting in that chair if this happens:

http://www.letterred.com/Images/Lucia's%20Carhouse.jpg

The driver can't be blamed because you let him do it.

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Originally Posted by Awoke

This is just more joe king and po boy bullshit, trying to blame the victims, as usual. Statist defenders, oligarch enablers.

The people in America and Canada are born on this soil, and are raised by parents who get them SS numbers because they have been told they have to if they want to go to school or have a job. It's the "norm" and to not get a SS# is radical and extremely incovenient for all parties involved.

The people have been inculcated with dogma to get their number, and it is absolutely wackey to even consider living your life without one, as far as 99.9% of the population is concerned. So here is Po boy taking up the torch for Joe king, insisting on deflecting the blame from the tyranical and bloated government that is slowly stripping away your rights and freedoms, and onto you.



http://www.letterred.com/Images/Lucia's%20Carhouse.jpg

The driver can't be blamed because you let him do it.

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I wouldn't want to live so close to the street.
Your argument is I know having an ssn and bc and citizenship is bad but it's to inconveniencing not to you so you accept the benefits but not the responsibilities or liabilities.Then you whine about it, classic.

Thanks not what I'm saying, Joe in disguise.

What I'm saying is, if you were raised in a community to walk on your hands, and everyone you ever knew walked on their hands, and as far as you were taught in school, everyone every where walked on their hands, you are going to walk on your hands too.

Until one day you figure out that you can walk on your feet, and it is much more natural to do so.

This woman was learning how to "walk on her feet", defending her daughter from a bully-system of Pig cops, Doctors, and Child "protection" workers.

You keep blaming the woman because she may or may not had had her child registered with a SS#, and you keep saying "Tough luck, she agreed to having her child kidnapped by the state if she decided she wasn't going to comply with their tyranical system".

You make me sick.

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Originally Posted by dys

Their rules? WHAT rules? Again, these contracts do not disclose what you say are their rules. LOL, actually, many of these contracts don't even come with a written document that both parties have to sign. What else you got?

dys

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I googled "how to enroll public school". One of the first links I got was this.
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/enroll/

It clearly says that....
Parents registering their children for the first time in a Montgomery County public school must provide proof of age, identity, county residency and immunizations, unless homeless. Required immunizations must be completed within 20 days of registration.

Which is what the lady in the OP was doing.
ie declaring her daughters legal status and getting her daughter the immunizations that are required for the benefit of attending public school.

Then she thought her daughter had a reaction to one of them and took her to a place called The Childrens Center.
Where they made a diagnosis and perscribed a medication which the lady chose not to give to her daughter.

At this point, the question becomes, is there a law in her jurisdiction that requires doctors to report to CPS any parents who refuse treatment that has been determined necessary for the childs benefit?
I'd say probably so.

Which is when CPS shows up and mom whips out a gun. My question is, where excactly did she think it would all end up once she pulled the gun out and fired it?
Did she actually think everyone would just go away and all would be well?

I understand that she wanted what she felt was best for her child, but considering the actions she took, the lady was just about her own worst enemy.


Here's a few more samples, but they all say the same thing as far as requirements go.
...and do really think you won't have to sign a document agreeing to the requirements?

http://www.dpsnc.net/newcomers/regis...or-grades-1-12
http://www.cps.edu/Schools/Enroll_in...checklist.aspx
http://www.jeffcopublicschools.org/enrollment/
http://www.polk-fl.net/parents/gener...ion/enroll.htm
http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&hl...earch%3Dsearch=

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Originally Posted by Joe King

I googled "how to enroll public school". One of the first links I got was this.
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/enroll/

It clearly says that....
Parents registering their children for the first time in a Montgomery County public school must provide proof of age, identity, county residency and immunizations, unless homeless. Required immunizations must be completed within 20 days of registration.

Which is what the lady in the OP was doing.
ie declaring her daughters legal status and getting her daughter the immunizations that are required for the benefit of attending public school.

Then she thought her daughter had a reaction to one of them and took her to a place called The Childrens Center.
Where they made a diagnosis and perscribed a medication which the lady chose not to give to her daughter.

At this point, the question becomes, is there a law in her jurisdiction that requires doctors to report to CPS any parents who refuse treatment that has been determined necessary for the childs benefit?
I'd say probably so.

Which is when CPS shows up and mom whips out a gun. My question is, where excactly did she think it would all end up once she pulled the gun out and fired it?
Did she actually think everyone would just go away and all would be well?

I understand that she wanted what she felt was best for her child, but considering the actions she took, the lady was just about her own worst enemy.


Here's a few more samples, but they all say the same thing as far as requirements go.
...and do really think you won't have to sign a document agreeing to the requirements?

http://www.dpsnc.net/newcomers/regis...or-grades-1-12
http://www.cps.edu/Schools/Enroll_in...checklist.aspx
http://www.jeffcopublicschools.org/enrollment/
http://www.polk-fl.net/parents/gener...ion/enroll.htm
http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&hl...earch%3Dsearch=

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That is your excuse, huh? Piss poor. A google search is not a contract. It obligates no one to anything. Based on your logic I could make a link and title it: how to debate on message forums with dysgenic. Then all I would have to do is explain in my link that every time someone makes a stupid nonsensical comment in a debate against me, they owe me $1000. You'd owe me a fortune under your scenario.
You seem to be arguing that a school has the power to rule by decree. Guess what? They don't.

dys

I posted about this conspiracy years ago, in a GIM thread entitled "Cattle Children", because of the Children in Maryland that were herded in and forced vaccinations at gunpoint.

Here is that story: Link

This is not a new tactic. It is a police state which is set to to destroy the family unit, acting in conjunction with policy makers, in this case, the schools.

The formula is simple:
- Make it policy to vaccinate all students
- Make it illegal to not have your child enrolled into a brainwashing institution

If a parent (Such as this lady in Detroit) knows that the vaccinations are deadly, she refuses to get her child injected. Now her child can't attend public school. Being that she is stuck in detroit, likely single, she probably can't afford homeschooling or a private school. (All assumptions on my part)
Now the Child kidnapping services say she is not a provider. The kidnappers see it as child abuse if your child isn't enrolled into a sanctioned brainwashing institution (BWI).

So they steal your kid, destroy the family, and the kid is raised by the state. Ta-da!

This plan is old old old. Destruction of the family has always been a top priority for the conspirators. Forced subordination to the police state is a tool to be used for an end.

Anyways, around the time that I made a huge post on the Cattle Children incident, there was a massive attack going on throughout the different states on Homeschooling. The PTB were doing their utmost to make it nearly impossible to get their kids OUT of the public BWI's. There was a lot of heated discussion. It was a great thread.

The shills were saying the same shit in that thread in 2007 as the shills are saying in this thread now.

The plan is old, my friends.

Good morning oh grouchy nemesis, hehe

It is well know that those who sleep on the duty to protect rights will lose them all. American's have been asleep at the wheel for far to long and now are not happy with the results and are looking for anyone to blame but themselves for the loss of rights they themselves failed to protect.
In a happy fun fun world there are no evil plots and planners but realistically it's always been a rugged struggle.

You can call me names and bitch about the evils of the state all you want, but until you quit CONSENTING to be governed and learn how to defend yourself from the tyrants without violence you'll remain a slave raising the states kids.

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Originally Posted by dys

That is your excuse, huh? Piss poor. A google search is not a contract. It obligates no one to anything.

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How is it not? Those are the rules you have to agree to if you want your kid in it. You either agree to it, or your kid doesn't get into public school.
How do plan on enrolling your kid? At the point of a gun, or what?

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Based on your logic I could make a link and title it: how to debate on message forums with dysgenic. Then all I would have to do is explain in my link that every time someone makes a stupid nonsensical comment in a debate against me, they owe me $1000. You'd owe me a fortune under your scenario.
You seem to be arguing that a school has the power to rule by decree. Guess what? They don't.

dys

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That's a pretty weak analogy, dys. I showed you links to random school districts that all require a parent to make a legal determination as to their childs status and spells out the other requirements for enrolling a child in their school.
Same as what the lady in the OP faced.

Call it whatever you want, but you still have to agree to abide by their rules if you want to have your kids enrolled in their school. Don't want to abide by the rules? Fine. Send your kids to private school or home school them.

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Originally Posted by Awoke

I posted about this conspiracy years ago, in a GIM thread entitled "Cattle Children", because of the Children in Maryland that were herded in and forced vaccinations at gunpoint.

Here is that story: Link

This is not a new tactic. It is a police state which is set to to destroy the family unit, acting in conjunction with policy makers, in this case, the schools.

The formula is simple:
- Make it policy to vaccinate all students
- Make it illegal to not have your child enrolled into a brainwashing institution

If a parent (Such as this lady in Detroit) knows that the vaccinations are deadly, she refuses to get her child injected.

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You must be trying to confuse the issue because she did in fact get her kid vaccinated. She did not refuse that.

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Now her child can't attend public school. Being that she is stuck in detroit, likely single, she probably can't afford homeschooling or a private school. (All assumptions on my part)

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My assumption is that the child will get into public school now.

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Now the Child kidnapping services say she is not a provider. The kidnappers see it as child abuse if your child isn't enrolled into a sanctioned brainwashing institution (BWI).

So they steal your kid, destroy the family, and the kid is raised by the state. Ta-da!

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Why did they leave her alone and not "steal" her kid prior to now?
The obviously didn't bother the lady for 13 years. Why didn't they "kidnap" the girl before now? Why wait 'til she's 13?

Is it possible that they didn't get involved until the mom made certain decisions that basicly invited them into her life?

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This plan is old old old. Destruction of the family has always been a top priority for the conspirators. Forced subordination to the police state is a tool to be used for an end.

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How was it forced? She was left alone prior to her mom asking for State benefits.
ie she asked for the State to get involved, and it did.

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Originally Posted by Joe King

I googled "how to enroll public school". One of the first links I got was this.
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/enroll/

It clearly says that....
Parents registering their children for the first time in a Montgomery County public school must provide proof of age, identity, county residency and immunizations, unless homeless. Required immunizations must be completed within 20 days of registration.

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Excuse me Mr Law Professor, but do you know the Lawful definition of 'Must' and 'Required'?

You have proved it over and over, You know NOTHING about the Law.

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Originally Posted by Sui Juris

Excuse me Mr Law Professor, but do you know the Lawful definition of 'Must' and 'Required'?

You have proved it over and over, You know NOTHING about the Law.

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Those are required for those wishing to enroll in public school.

There are private schools and home schooling.

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Originally Posted by Joe King

How is it not? Those are the rules you have to agree to if you want your kid in it. You either agree to it, or your kid doesn't get into public school.
How do plan on enrolling your kid? At the point of a gun, or what?.

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It is not a contract because there is no signature attached to it. And even if there were a signature attached to it, it STILL wouldn't be a valid contract for 2 reasons:
1. coercion.
2. the school has 0 authority to enforce policy that is against the law (example: forced vaccinations). The real law, not the fake law, btw.

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That's a pretty weak analogy, dys. I showed you links to random school districts that all require a parent to make a legal determination as to their childs status and spells out the other requirements for enrolling a child in their school.
Same as what the lady in the OP faced.

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This is a lie. Nowhere in that link did the school ask the parent to make a legal determination of status.

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Call it whatever you want, but you still have to agree to abide by their rules if you want to have your kids enrolled in their school. Don't want to abide by the rules? Fine. Send your kids to private school or home school them.

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You most certainly do NOT have to agree to their rules, not if their rules are against the law.

dys

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Originally Posted by dys

It is not a contract because there is no signature attached to it. And even if there were a signature attached to it, it STILL wouldn't be a valid contract for 2 reasons:
1. coercion.
2. the school has 0 authority to enforce policy that is against the law (example: forced vaccinations). The real law, not the fake law, btw.

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How was she coerced to enroll her child into public school? Per the article, she requested it.
How do they require the other students to get theirs?
...and either way, you are arguing a moot point because because she did not refuse vaccinations.

Try try again. lol

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This is a lie. Nowhere in that link did the school ask the parent to make a legal determination of status.

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Yes, it does.
http://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/enroll/

If you'd read the link you'd see that the parents are specifically asked about citizenship status, identity, and residency. {as well as other things}
The answers to those questions are made by the parent after having made a legal determination on behalf of their child.
ie the parent gets to decide what the answers are, and then the school acts accordingly.

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You most certainly do NOT have to agree to their rules, not if their rules are against the law.

dys

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Within the regulatory system the school operates in, the Courts have ruled they can make rules like those.



If it's truly un-Constitutional and you can prove it, take the school system to Court and get it all overturned....should be easy to do if you are in fact a party to the Constitution. Are you?

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Originally Posted by Joe King

Try try again. lol

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You find it funny. You really are a sociopath.

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Originally Posted by DMac

You find it funny. You really are a sociopath.

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What's funny is dys trying to make this about refusing vaccinations.
ie he was attempting to twist the topic of the thread to fit his personal agenda, just like Book would do, and I told him to try try again.

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Originally Posted by Joe King

What's funny is dys trying to make this about refusing vaccinations.
ie he was attempting to twist the topic of the thread to fit his personal agenda, just like Book would do, and I told him to try try again.

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dys used vaccinations as an example. The specific, and very much related, problem in this case were the SSRI meds the child was forced to take.

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Originally Posted by DMac

dys used vaccinations as an example. The specific, and very much related, problem in this case were the SSRI meds the child was forced to take.

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After having asked for treatment.

As I already asked, in her State is there a requirement on the part of health care providers to report parents who refuse treatment that's been determined by the health care provider to be necessary?
...and if those regulations exist, is the mothers status such that she has previously bound herself to abide by those regulations?

http://yhvh.name/?w=1114
PARENS PATRIAE... GOVERNMENT AS PARENT


http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=14376

States with Religious and Philosophical Exemptions from School Immunization Requirements
March 2011

All fifty states have legislation requiring specified vaccines for students. Although exemptions vary from state to state, all school immunization laws grant exemptions to children for medical reasons. Almost all states, except Mississippi and West Virginia, grant religious exemptions for people who have religious beliefs against immunizations. Twenty states allow philosophical exemptions for those who object to immunizations because of a personal, moral or other beliefs.

Apparently, had the lady claimed an exemption she could have avoided all of her troubles.

Instead, she chose to make a legal determination that wasn't in her best interest.

Ignorance or freedom.....pick one or the other.

Thanks for the informative discussion here 'both sides'. Basically I think your both right. The root problem here is a faulty medical system insisting on a treatment with significant probability, such as in this family's case, of making a person's health worse, and for no direct benefit.

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Originally Posted by keehah

Thanks for the informative discussion here 'both sides'. Basically I think your both right. The root problem here is a faulty medical system with significant probability, such as in this family's case, of making a person's health worse, not better.

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Which is why I previously posted that her attry should introduce as evidence the fact the the fed gov hasn't approved that medication in children.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post447617

Remember, I never said I agreed with the medical facility/CPS actions, but rather only tried to explain the mechanism at work.
If you don't understand the mechanism at work, you're liable to pop off a cap in a frustrated and mis-guided attempt at "fixing" the situation.
...and I'd really like it if people avoided doing that, as it doesn't help at all.

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Originally Posted by dys

It is not a contract because there is no signature attached to it. And even if there were a signature attached to it, it STILL wouldn't be a valid contract for 2 reasons:
1. coercion.
2. the school has 0 authority to enforce policy that is against the law (example: forced vaccinations). The real law, not the fake law, btw.





This is a lie. Nowhere in that link did the school ask the parent to make a legal determination of status.



You most certainly do NOT have to agree to their rules, not if their rules are against the law.

dys

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Dys, don't get trolled away from your main focus.

The school cannot write or enforce Law.
They can write and enforce Policy.
If their policy is that all kids must be vaccinated to attend, they can (and will) enfore that.
The Government has made it illegal for your child to not attend a BWI.


That's why she had an armed standoff with NWO pigs. Her house wasn't surrounded by armed teachers who were trying to enforce a law, the NWO pigs are the strongarm to enforce vaccinations, by way of making truancy illegal.

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Originally Posted by po boy

Good morning oh grouchy nemesis, hehe

It is well know that those who sleep on the duty to protect rights will lose them all. American's have been asleep at the wheel for far to long and now are not happy with the results and are looking for anyone to blame but themselves for the loss of rights they themselves failed to protect.
In a happy fun fun world there are no evil plots and planners but realistically it's always been a rugged struggle.

You can call me names and bitch about the evils of the state all you want, but until you quit CONSENTING to be governed and learn how to defend yourself from the tyrants without violence you'll remain a slave raising the states kids.

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Good morning, Joe King Parrot, and well paid .gov agent


I would actually assume that you and Joe were one-in-the-same, if it weren't for your IP addresses.
So then, for the last time, for the sake of the lurkers, I will point out that you are using the same arguements as your "Thanks buddy".

1) You are blaming the victim. (The people who are losing their freedoms UNKNOWINGLY because of a group of elite that work in SECRECY.

2) You are exonerating the conspirators. It is that simple.

So I will state that you are "way the fuck off" on all of this. Way off.
If you don't understand how or why you are way off, allow me to use a simple example.

If you were sitting in your livingroom and a man quietly broke into your house, crept up behind you, pounced out from the shadows and knocked you out (Totally blindsided you) before you had a chance to react, and then robbed you, you are not to blame.
You would be the victim of that mans plan, which he hatched and carried out in secrecy.

When you woke up, you would be pissed, and you would seek justice, and you might even take some form of action, but you certainly would not be to blame for letting the mugging happen.

And don't bother trying to muddy shit up by blah blah blabbing about how "You shouldn't have been sitting there without an alarm system" or whatever approach your supervisor tells you to take.

Not everyone is tricked by your bullshit circle talk.

I reiterate:

1) You are blaming the victim in every situation involving the conspiracy.
2) You are exonerating the conspirators.

It really is that simple.

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Originally Posted by Awoke

Dys, don't get trolled away from your main focus.

The school cannot write or enforce Law.
They can write and enforce Policy.
If their policy is that all kids must be vaccinated to attend, they can (and will) enfore that.
The Government has made it illegal for your child to not attend a BWI.


That's why she had an armed standoff with NWO pigs. Her house wasn't surrounded by armed teachers who were trying to enforce a law, the NWO pigs are the strongarm to enforce vaccinations, by way of making truancy illegal.

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She was the one trying to get her kid into school, not trying to keep her out of it.
ie where did you get the impression that she was keeping her child from attending school? ie that the police were there enforcing a truancy violation?


Oh wait, you can't see this post, can you? lol

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Originally Posted by Joe King

Remember, I never said I agreed with the medical facility/CPS actions, but rather only tried to explain the mechanism at work.
If you don't understand the mechanism at work, you're liable to pop off a cap in a frustrated and mis-guided attempt at "fixing" the situation.
...and I'd really like it if people avoided doing that, as it doesn't help at all.

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Do the cops get the Nuremberg defense shipping family members off for this? If not using force to stop the significant probability of maiming of one's children then when?

But yes, for those families, it will make things much much worse.

In the longer term, the system in such case could decide to stop enforcing mandatory health maiming treatments with no direct benefit on aware parent's kids, or they will have to demonize parents with kids as terrorists and extremists. That could blow out the usefulness of the terrorism meme.

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Originally Posted by Awoke

I will state that you are "way the fuck off" on all of this. Way off.
If you don't understand how or why you are way off, allow me to use a simple example.

If you were sitting in your livingroom and a man quietly broke into your house, crept up behind you, pounced out from the shadows and knocked you out (Totally blindsided you) before you had a chance to react, and then robbed you, you are not to blame.
You would be the victim of that mans plan, which he hatched and carried out in secrecy.

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Your analogy is flawed in that none of the regulations the lady was trying to comply with were enacted in secrecy.
Try try again. lol

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When you woke up, you would be pissed, and you would seek justice, and you might even take some form of action, but you certainly would not be to blame for letting the mugging happen.

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Of course not. In your analogy the perp committed a crime. Several of them, actually.

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And don't bother trying to muddy shit up by blah blah blabbing about how "You shouldn't have been sitting there without an alarm system" or whatever approach your supervisor tells you to take.

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You're the one muddying stuff up.

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Not everyone is tricked by your bullshit circle talk.

I reiterate:

1) You are blaming the victim in every situation involving the conspiracy.
2) You are exonerating the conspirators.

It really is that simple.

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At what point does personal responsibility come into play relative to knowing what you are and what it is you are asking for when applying foir gov benefits?


Oh wait, you've still got me on ignore, right? lol

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Originally Posted by Awoke

Good morning, Joe King Parrot, and well paid .gov agent


I would actually assume that you and Joe were one-in-the-same, if it weren't for your IP addresses.
So then, for the last time, for the sake of the lurkers, I will point out that you are using the same arguements as your "Thanks buddy".

1) You are blaming the victim. (The people who are losing their freedoms UNKNOWINGLY because of a group of elite that work in SECRECY.

2) You are exonerating the conspirators. It is that simple.

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I never once blamed the child my comprehension deficient friend.
I placed they blame squarely where it should rest with the parent the first and most important participant in this whole
shitty situation.The mother was ignorant of her rights and duties as parent turned babysitter by her actions!
This should have never happened to this child or any other as the Mother had a child without educating herself to the pitfalls of child rearing.This education and planning should have started well before the point of conception not ended up with the child in foster care and the mother going off half cocked.She will not win a game of violence with the state as it shows, the state or her attorney are not going to teach you where the hole in the fence is or where the booby traps are that is why the parents are most likely going to lose this child.

You don't like the way the game is played and I don't either but that doesn't change it.I advocate educating yourself on the issue rather than complaining about proven losing strategy for that you say I blamed the child?

These stories are just yellow journalism which pisses people off but tells them nothing at the same time.

Read and weep.


http://www.reformed.org/master/index...dren_trap.html
Gary North's Introduction to...
The Children Trap

Biblical Principles for Education
by: Robert Thoburn

EDITOR'S INTRODUCTION
by Gary North

Meeting with a group of Christians in Austin [Texas] on May 19, 1986, [Attorney General James] Mattox revealed his true colors when asked, "Is it true that the State of Texas owns Our children? " Mattox retorted, "Yes, it is true... and not only your children, but you, too"

Hard to believe, isn't it? Yet this is an ancient view in the United States. John Swett served as California's Superintendent of Public Instruction from 1863 to 1868. In 1864, he published the First Biennial Report of his office. He cited favorably several judicial decisions in eastern states. Among them was this:

Parents have no remedy as against the teacher-As a general thing, the only persons who have a legal right to give orders to the teacher, are his employers--namely, the committee in some States, and in others the Director of Trustees. If his conduct is approved of by his employees, the parents have no remedy as against him or them ...

"On March 28, 1874, the California Legislature made it a penal offense for parents to send their children to private schools without the consent of the local state school trustees.''

How did Christian parents allow themselves to be swept into supporting the public .school movement? Why do they still continue to support it financially and verbally? Why haven't they risen up in political revenge against anyone who proposes tax financing of education, a public school monopoly, or state-imposed standards on Christian schools? I have three answers. First, because they have believed a lie, that the state is responsible for educating children. Second, because they are cheap, and foolishly seek to compel other people to pay for the education of Christian children. Third, because they have believed Satan's number-one lie, the myth of neutrality.

Like hell.

God is sovereign. State is man made. They void their validity by making man-made laws, which is in violation of the Father's direct orders.

So circle talk all you want, but the mother is not to blame for trying to intervene and protect her child from dangerous drugs: The state is to blame for kidnapping and attempted poisoning.

No man or law is above the Lord.

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Like hell.

God is sovereign. State is man made. They void their validity by making man-made laws, which is in violation of the Father's direct orders.

So circle talk all you want, but the mother is not to blame for trying to intervene and protect her child from dangerous drugs: The state is to blame for kidnapping and attempted poisoning.

Don't let me stop you from playing the states limited liability game although you may want to read the rule book.

No man or law is above the Lord.

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Do you send your kids to public school,if so you are in violation of God's law.You shall have no God's before me!
Have citizenship you have chosen your God.

My kids go to a Christian school. Man, you're getting desperate.

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My kids go to a Christian school. Man, you're getting desperate.

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A 501c3 incorporation with a license who created those? Do you pay them in gold or silver or FRN. The desperation is not mine as I don't babysit the states children and if I realized I was I would take steps to correct that mistake.

As far as the sovereign issue the state considers the state sovereign here on earth even though they still recognize the bible as a moral compass for those brave enough to apply those arguments.http://www.provethebible.net/T2-Hist/H-0901.htm

1 hour, 2nd hour behind pay wall :rolleyes:


Factor Nine – Attorney Allison Fulmar – Child Abduction by the State and Forced Medication

http://puremomentum.net/wp-content/u...ar-Graphic.pngAllison Fulmar / Pamela Tartar

Factor Nine

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About Your Guest

Attorney Allison Folmar has been an Attorney for 15 years in the State of Michigan. While in law school Allison received an Award of Excellence in the field of juvenile law.

Earlier years:

From 1988-1994 Allison was a Corrections Officer for the State of Michigan Department of Corrections and then went on to become a Probations Officer. Allison assisted in restructuring the Federal mandated Interstate Contact Agreement whereby people on probation and parole are handled so as not to fall through the cracks.

On the day Maryanne Godboldo’s story broke. Attorney Allison Folmar was in her car listening the radio. She heard about the police stand off and her first thought was: “This woman is protecting her child from being drugged and they’re gonna take her baby? “Oh, no they’re not!”

The next day Allison took on the case pro bono.

And so began her 10 month battle on behalf of Maryanne Godboldo and her daughter.

She fought and won two legal battles on the fundamental premise that charging a parent with medical neglect for refusing to give their child a deadly drug is not only a complete oxymoron but a violation of the law.

PLEASE SUPPORT MARY ANNE GODBOLDO. HER WEBSITE IS justice4maryanne.com

WRITE OR CALL THE PROSECUTOR KYM WORTHY, TELLING HER TO STOP PROSECUTING AND PERSECUTING MARY ANNE GODBOLDO.