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Nice try, osoab, but he provided 2 direct references proving he was responding directly to me:
1) He referred to Turner in his reply. I'm the 1st one on this palani thread quoted Turner as the source for the Bond v US sovereignty decision intel and it's impact on North Carolina LEOs and their naked liability now.
2) He responded with the actual opinion link I asked for.
Since he has a problem with Tim Turner, he needs to take it up with Tim Turner, and not painting me with his dismissive and arrogant type know it all response. Me, the messenger. Me, reporting fresh relevant info to his STALE thread which he opened. Remember, he concluded his shared info opening post with statements looking for any input regarding his Opening Post on NC and the liability story.
Just because I or anyone else furnishes source information as best they can as often as they can doesn't mean the addressee of the response gets to "shoot the messenger." The point is not Turner is the source. The point is the de facto Supreme Court made a definitive sovereign is: ruling July 2011 which resulted in the N.C. and other states' liability limiting actions, leaving LEOs liability naked in instances dealing with sovereigns.
That messenger shooting crap happens too much around GS. And in non-virtual life as well.
JOE,
you're being a jerk again.
You're making a gigantic assumption, since I basically choose to keep my life to myself, and only post on topics I think I can make a positive contribution to which is God-Honoring and helpful to others.
You might wish to assume I have other things on my plate besides mitigating massive and ongoing Fukushima nuke fallout.
If you did you'd find about a 50 50 mix of good news in my personal life balanced by a dying friend after being assaulted (which I know you've read on another thread where I asked for Neuro and Mamboni's response and to wit you responded), plus a rapidly deteriorating dying brother which I asked fo one of those energy pyramid deals on another thread. There are days when that "other 50%" has and continues to take a toll on me, but I'm doing okay.
I'm still able to call BS and JERK behavior when I see it. Regardless of who is dying in my personal life.
Being nuked 24/7/365 is not helping, that's for sure. And Helen and I aren't taking it lying down either. You might want to take your sovereign self by the nap of your sovereign neck and get up to speed on clinoptilolite, etc. Then you could be happier as you're being nuked instead of looking the otherway and just suckin' it in, at the airport, and in your food, water and air...
So, guys, I'm standing tall on this one. Anonymous chatroom blogger Palani vs Lawyer Turner w/r/t researched Supreme Court Sovereignty Bond decision in favor of the plaintiff...guess whose definition I'm going to throw weight behind...
it AINT palani's bristling at the Turner souce Bond Decision angle which slipped up on him and didn't bother to check out or tie the two together.....hmmmmm
"fiesty" beefsteak
I just think you've been being a bit touchy and have been letting the least little thing set you off.
...and I don't think I was being a jerk at all.
It is a fact that too much constant focus on all the Dooom! can have a negative effect on some peoples state of mind.
As example, in chat last night, some poor tortured soul popped in and seemed to be quite depressed and over-whelmed by it all. It can have an imact. To come down on me for making an observation based on what I've read in your posts seems, well, a bit touchy to me.
It's like you're just waitin' for something to set you off, and that ain't a good way to be, my friend.
Who you addressing here? At the airport? Who goes there? ???Quote:
Being nuked 24/7/365 is not helping, that's for sure. And Helen and I aren't taking it lying down either. You might want to take your sovereign self by the nap of your sovereign neck and get up to speed on clinoptilolite, etc. Then you could be happier as you're being nuked instead of looking the otherway and just suckin' it in, at the airport, and in your food, water and air...
You can put your weight behind anyone you want. Choose wisely!Quote:
So, guys, I'm standing tall on this one. Anonymous chatroom blogger Palani vs Lawyer Turner w/r/t researched Supreme Court Sovereignty Bond decision in favor of the plaintiff...guess whose definition I'm going to throw weight behind...it AINT palani's bristling at the Turner souce Bond Decision angle which slipped up on him and didn't bother to check out or tie the two together.....hmmmmm
"fiesty" beefsteak
...and I stand tall on this one too. You do in fact seem a bit touchy. :)
Rod Class was given credit for the North Carolina directive. Bond was the proximate cause of the Bond vs U.S. decision. Turner had nothing to do with either result. This does not mean I am "dissing" Turner. If he put together some connection in his mind he is welcome to the credit.
Isn't this the link you had asked someone to provide?
Where did you deduce I have a problem with Turner? It is true that I am not a member of his body politic but as I indicated before I know nothing of him or his politics. How is this a problem?
If I disagree with something I tend to not remain silent. If I had disagreed with something you posted I surely would have made a note of that thing. As I didn't then you had my agreement. Were you looking for something more positive than simple agreement?
Agreement equates in your mind to shooting the messenger?
I don't know if this statement is true. Maybe there is link between Bond vs U.S. and the N.C. ruling and maybe there is not. The bill of rights is supposed to exist and be reachable by anyone. Bond didn't create the amendment. Bond did not make it applicable to everyone. It has always been there.
So in summation you prefer not to practice what you preach?
Sorry dude, but to me he does seem a bit touchy. I've experienced myself from him before. Least little thing he thinks is sideways, and off the deep end he goes.
So how do I get to be called that just for stating what I've seen and experienced?
IMHO, his response to Palani was waaay out of proportion relative to what Palani posted.
Drama, drama everywhere. We are far apart and coming from many different angles. Shotgun blast on the slightest irritation is probably not a good way to communicate.
Hey Beef- OK... so you ARE getting eaten up by circumstances outside this discussion. I look into the past with mixed visions. I see some secure days mixed with undeniable sadness and death. Sadness and death own this world until the last day. Those washed in Messiah's blood CAN look into the future where sadness and death are overcome.
Rev 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev 7:15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
Rev 7:16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
Rev 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
This world is overrun with evil. We can take heart in knowing that we can have new immortal life with the One who is the source of all truth, goodness, kindness, patience, peace, life, light and joy.
Don't let the crap of this world drag you down. Time is short. Hang in there.
I agree that he took Palani's Palanese out of context. That has nothing to do with your incessant trolling.
"My brother is dying and a friend of mine just died after an assault"
"Geez, friend, you're so touchy. Don't let little things bother you".
Fucking troll. I can't believe that hardly any one ever calls you out on your shitty behaviour besides Ximmy.
EDIT - Bolded text for Osoab. Maybe you'll get it now.
There was a person that appeared in chat last night, that started to post stuff there that really did not belong anti this and that. Came on very strong. Beef and others myself included did not care for it, Beef said something about more of this shit here and left chat.
Gsus chat is more of a weekly social event, that is just that, social and fun. Yes there is some sharpshooting sometimes but most chatters will shoot it down. Chat is for fun, and fun bullshit. Plus getting to know each other in a more personal way.
In real time!
The political/religious shit can stay on the forum, where it belongs.
Chat is not a place for apple crates to preach from.
IMHO
I was responding to his accusations about my first {and what would have been only} post in this thread.
I do apologize if I didn't express my sympathy for his brother. It was an over-sight.
Beefsteak, you have my sympathy in this, your hour of hardship. I was not trying to make light of your situation. May peace be with you.
I had no clue about the things going on in beefsteak's personal life prior to his post. Wishing the best for ya beef.
I think you are looking for more than what is there Awoke. Could have Joe glanced over a part of his post? Possibly. Could Joe only be responding to what beefsteak posted about him? Possibly.
Hell if I know, but I didn't see a level of "trolling" that warranted you to get bent of shape and I still don't.
Then again, I still think that pepper spray at UC Davis was a staged event.
I will let the second paragraph of this 6 month old post sum up my position on this issue.
You mean second sentence, right? A paragraph is a collection of related sentences. lol
Besides, why you pull that old story up? Thjey broke the rulz, they got banned, they tried to sneak back in but couldn't keep their cover and got banned again.
Exactly what part of the rulz here do you not understand? They seem fairly easy to grasp. lol
Alright Awoke, why are are you referencing about one of your posts when you claim in said referenced post that you never read that thread.
Dude, I haven't seen JK do any of the said things from your second paragraph in this thread.Quote:
Without reading this thread, I just have to say that IMO it is a bad call to ban Shakinginmyshoes and leave trash like Joe Dirt here to frolic amongst the ban-tulips.
An obvious troll and baiter, and he gets free run because he is oh-so-accomodating with his "You can move the threads if you want, Mr. Moderator. Anything for you" bullshit.
At least Fred/PDT and his wife had something useful to contribute, instead of incessant trollolololo and baiting tactics. Total bullshit.
Bad call.
I specified the second paragraph because this is what I was trying to make you understand:
The rest doesn't apply.Quote:
Originally Posted by Awoke
If you don't see his salt-laced post for what it is, just because he drizzled it with honey, that's on you.
I am offended by his posts that made me fly off the handle in this thread. Beef is going through what is likely one of the more difficult times in his life right now, and Trololo comes in here with his bullshit khazar tactics of belittle/inflame/cry out as they strike you.
This is the same shit that made me put him on ignore half a year ago.
Trololo is like that stuck up princess bitch from any movie you can think of, who says nothing without a malicious double-meaning, but always says it in her sweetest princess voice, so she doesn't get in trouble from Daddy.
I will break it down for you further if needed.
Yes, why don't you do that? Oh wait, you can't see this, can you? lol
Keep in mind that two other people prior to my post suggested that Beef was wound up/on edge and I merely suggested a reason as to why. Notice that I did not use absolute terms, but rather used the word "probably".
...but only I got ripped into for it.
You always seem to take extreme issue with anything I post and always choose to read it in the worst possible light. Seems to me that you have an obvious bias against me and/or are wound too tight yourself. Dooom been gettin' to ya? lol
Perhaps you need to go spend some time with your buddy Free Spirit? Might do ya some good.
...and you seem in need of some good in a bad kinda way.
So then you admit that you bring a negative, personal bias against me when you read my posts? Gee, thanks. At least I know for sure what I'm dealing with now.
It's kinda sad, really. That you allow your personal bias' to cloud your vision.
BTW, so you can see this? lol
I must say that I think you were happier when you had me on ignore.
Don't let him get to ya, Awoke.
Holy shit Joe, if you're just figuring out that I think you're a khazar piece of shit, then you're not nearly as intelligent as I gave you credit for. I've made that 110% crystal clear in many posts in the past.
And yes, I was happier with you on ignore.
But all that aside, as much as you feign docility and innocence, your trolling stands out like a Mossad Operative among Palistinian children. Gaillo knows it, Madfranks knows it, Magnes knows it, I know it, (hell I think most discerning people on this forum know it) and you know it.
No one else in this thread belittled Beef by minimizing the issues he is going through.
Spectrism told Beef he was wound up too tight, but confessed that he did not know what was eating him. You can not make the same confession, because you did know.
It wasn't your original comment that fired me up, it was your followup post #44 in which you cry out as you strike beefsteak. You marginalize his situation and use your new buzzwords "Too focused on the doooom" (A basic re-hashing of the usual "You're a conspiracy nut" line used by your ilk)
Once I called out your programming, you again put on your meekness cape and admit you were a douche, in so many words.
My example of Princess Trololo perfectly sums up your MO around here, and anyone who pays attention can see it. Everything you say is loaded with a double meaning. You are trained by the best, but it's the same typical training as every other dis-info agent.
No problem.
I was just givin' you the benefit of the doubt.
ie a concept that seems to be completely foreign to you.
Then do it again. I really don't care.Quote:
And yes, I was happier with you on ignore.
IMHO, needing to use ignore says a lot about ones lack of self control.
...but hey, have at it.
Well, then you don't know nearly as much as you pride yourself on knowing, and you know what they say about pride.Quote:
But all that aside, as much as you feign docility and innocence, your trolling stands out like a Mossad Operative among Palistinian children. Gaillo knows it, Madfranks knows it, Magnes knows it, I know it, (hell I think most discerning people on this forum know it) and you know it.
In fact, you seem to know very little on certain subjects.....but hey, there's still opportunities to learn. Pay attention and perhaps you will. lol
And I apologized for the over-sight, too.Quote:
No one else in this thread belittled Beef by minimizing the issues he is going through.
Spectrism told Beef he was wound up too tight, but confessed that he did not know what was eating him. You can not make the same confession, because you did know.
Besides, in my first comment I wasn't even addressing Beef, but rather responding to what someone else said.
...and then Beef goes over the top in his response to me. Which is why I may have come across a bit short with him. ie I was reacting to his over reaction to my prior comment.
After he stuck me for no good reason.Quote:
It wasn't your original comment that fired me up, it was your followup post #44 in which you cry out as you strike beefsteak.
I didn't marginalize anything. If you got that out of what I wrote, then it's obvious that you read into my posts whatever you want them to say.Quote:
You marginalize his situation and use your new buzzwords "Too focused on the doooom" (A basic re-hashing of the usual "You're a conspiracy nut" line used by your ilk)
ie your bias is showing again.
After all, it is a fact that the dooom can eat at some people. As I said, in chat the other night there was someone there that that has seemed to happen to. So it was fresh on my mind and I mentioned it about Beef only as a possible answer for his seemingly touchyness here lately.
Touchyness that I was not the only one to have noticed, I might add.
"Programing"? lolQuote:
Once I called out your programming, you again put on your meekness cape and admit you were a douche, in so many words.
I admit I have programmed things, and quite well I might add, but never people.
...but if you'd like to be a subject, I suppose could always try. What is it that you'd like in your programming? lol [/sarc]
Only because you want to see a double meaning.Quote:
My example of Princess Trololo perfectly sums up your MO around here, and anyone who pays attention can see it. Everything you say is loaded with a double meaning.
If people look for what they want to see, guess what? They typically do see it, and you are apparently no exception.
Training? What training? The only training I've ever gotten is the kind of training a good woman can give. ;DQuote:
You are trained by the best, but it's the same typical training as every other dis-info agent.
You say that, but I really think you do in fact, have a problem.Quote:
No problem.
In fact, you seem wound pretty tight yourself. Doom been gettin' to ya lately? lol
As I said, you obviously do have a problem. You always let things get to you? You seem a bit touchy lately.
Your posts speak for themselves.
Notice my post #33? I saw how Beef misunderstood the intent of Palani's post, and tried my best to diffuse the frustration by attempting to translate the Palanese to English. I made no mention of the "touchiness" or volitility of Beefsteak's reply at all, because that was NOT what the situation needed.
It needed to be clarified, not inflamed. And for the record, I had no idea that Beef was going through the test that he is going through. I just new the appropriate way to respond.
Which, for the record, was exactly the same situation in my post #46.
You are one of Joe Kings biggest supporters, and he yours,
there is a gang of you that support each other.
You openly proclaim on here, you know Joe King from gim and
he is not a troll. You did the same thing with Santa. And Antonio
too, you egg him on. You seem to know all the main trolls and
support them, I gave you a break for quite a while, but the
rest of your behavior going back I see differently now,
you too are a subtle troll and blatant occult poster.
I was one of your greatest supporters and friends,
trying to get people from gim off your back early.
Boy was I wrong, you made a fool out of me.
You are Joe King.
I want people to understand what you have posted.
Along with the others here I have spoken out about.
I finger you people as Occult posters, many of you my old friends,
giving you a break and the benefit of the doubt, you people prove
how wrong I am by becoming more blatant. Funny shit. I am
supposed to be the madman. LOL. Joke is on the forum members
as it was on me.
@ Awoke, Joe King doesn't bother me because he is blatant going back.
I don't know if you missed my posts on here, there is 5 threads on him.
These people are only here to argue and troll, inflame, and most people
here are not reading these arguments, I know from experience this is the
case, how many people were paying attention to what mayhem was doing ?
So he has that going for him. Like others here.
Awoke, read this carefully, he comes in early on the thread, just like for Santa.
THIS IS SLVRBUGJIM THREAD, Jim is old school gim, he knows what he is reading.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...-gov-operative
Joe King reads like Juristic Person from GIM to me, but that is a tough call
because JP never posted much but one liner snide remarks, here he argues,
but it is not mayhem, mayhem is Ulysses/Immanti from gim, that has been
proven.
So you were putting the blame for Beefs over reaction on Palani? Niiice! ::)
So why was it your job to clarify Palinais comments? You speak for him now? That's really nice of you.Quote:
It needed to be clarified, not inflamed.
I know, because you're perfect, right? {in your own head, perhaps}Quote:
And for the record, I had no idea that Beef was going through the test that he is going through. I just new the appropriate way to respond.
...and don't we all go through tests? Life. Death. It's a circle and it can suck for all of us.
Been there done that and in ways that I'd hope that other people would never come to know.
Post #46? You mean the one where you show your ignorance and hurl insults due to a lack of having so much as one intelligent thought to come back with?Quote:
Which, for the record, was exactly the same situation in my post #46.
haha you're so hilarious, you must be a joke. lol
Quick! Hurl more insults. They might actually start to hurt. You know, at some unknown point in the future perhaps. lol
ie you show your level of intelligence, or rather lack thereof, quite easily Awoke.
Time for a nice song before bed children
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNAkbbKycCM
What there is, is a gang of you that support each other and some of your gangs less-than-well-thought-out ideas. lol
More silly accusations from Mags......awww, ain't that sweet! lol :-*Quote:
You openly proclaim on here, you know Joe King from gim and
he is not a troll. You did the same thing with Santa. And Antonio
too, you egg him on. You seem to know all the main trolls and
support them, I gave you a break for quite a while, but the
rest of your behavior going back I see differently now,
you too are a subtle troll and blatant occult poster.
With a supportor like you, he sure don't need no enemies. :DQuote:
I was one of your greatest supporters and friends,
trying to get people from gim off your back early.
I thought you do that to yourself everytime you click "submit reply". :confused:Quote:
Boy was I wrong, you made a fool out of me.
Wait a minute. Up above you said we knew each other and were all in a gang together....but now you say we're one in the same? If we're the same, well, you can't very well have a gang all by yourself, now can you? lolQuote:
You are Joe King.
What he posted was kinda self-explanatory.Quote:
I want people to understand what you have posted.
ie he asked Awoke to not let me get to him. What's wrong with that? I didn't read it as him being 100% on my side.
Perhaps he meant that he was, I don't know. I'd have to ask him, but that's not what I got out of it.
...but I know you can read between the lines. ::) ::) ::)
Let's be clear. You only speak out against those who you think don't see stuff exactly your way.Quote:
Along with the others here I have spoken out about.
Everyone else in your gang gets a free pass on the BS they post.
The only thing I see you as being able to finger is yourself.Quote:
I finger you people as Occult posters, many of you my old friends,
giving you a break and the benefit of the doubt, you people prove
how wrong I am by becoming more blatant. Funny shit. I am
supposed to be the madman. LOL. Joke is on the forum members
as it was on me.
Admit it. You're probably doing just that right now, aren't you? lol
Message for SirGonzo: U28gd2hhdCBkbyBtYWtlIG9mIHRoaXMgZ3V5PyBQZXJzb25hbG x5LCBJIHRoaW5rIGhlIG1heSBi
ZSBjb21wbGV0ZWx5IG9mZiBoaXMgcm9ja2VyLiAKSSdtIHByZX R0eSBzdXJlIHlvdSdyZSBub3Qg
bWUsIGJ1dCBjb3VsZCB5b3UgY2hlY2sgb24geW91ciBlbmQgdG 8gYmUgc3VyZT8gbG9sCg==
Gonzo seems to have organized all the trolls in email,
I put him on the spot for his signature, where he stated
he doesn't trust the mods here and had an email signature
as well. He immediately changed it when I put him on the
spot for it. He claimed he was joking.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post470127
Everyone here needs to stay anonymous,
there are people here who are not who they
pretend to be, including some popular people.
If you have a close look at what they are about,
everything they post can be safely posted on
the my pony forums, they take shots at us,
side openly with the trolls, even swear at these
forums.
This thread is off topic. Take it to the Thunder dome or stop posting trash.
This IS the temporary Thunderdome, seems you can get banned for much less. (at least I did)
http://freeemoticonsandsmileys.com/a...%20popcorn.gif
Damn Magnes!
I was encouraging the members here to familiarize themselves with encryption technology. You were so bothered by it I removed it. To the best of my recollection, I have only communicated with one member here via encrypted PM, and that was with a member that you have never accused of being a troll. Nothing "worth hiding" was discussed. We merely exchanged public encryption keys and tested by sending some messages.
You are deluded. I am not your fucking enemy! You and I were two of the main people to bring people to this place in the beginning. Now you are paranoid and are turning on an old friend.
What the hell have I done to you to have you sneak in little snide remarks and outright lies about me?
By the way, Joe, quit being so base. lol
Here's what Joe King's super secret message to me says:
So what do make of this guy? Personally, I think he may be completely off his rocker.*
I'm pretty sure you're not me, but could you check on your end to be sure? lol
@Beefsteak, Sorry for your woes, prayers and huggs, and crossed fingers out to you and yours, Hang in there the best you can.
@ the rest of you, drop it and leave well enough alone.
That's why you removed it? I never thought you'd cave that easily. You should put it back. There was nothin' wrong with it.
It was U3RleXJfbQ== correct?Quote:
To the best of my recollection, I have only communicated with one member here via encrypted PM, and that was with a member that you have never accused of being a troll.
Just for the record, neither am I.Quote:
Nothing "worth hiding" was discussed. We merely exchanged public encryption keys and tested by sending some messages.
You are deluded. I am not your fucking enemy!
It really bites the big one when that happens with old friends.Quote:
You and I were two of the main people to bring people to this place in the beginning. Now you are paranoid and are turning on an old friend.
What has any of us done who have received that?Quote:
What the hell have I done to you to have you sneak in little snide remarks and outright lies about me?
BTW, that was merely a personal observation based on recent posts I've read, and is not an accusation of any sort that he actually is off his rocker.Quote:
By the way, Joe, quit being so base. lol
Here's what Joe King's super secret message to me says:
So what do make of this guy? Personally, I think he may be completely off his rocker.*
I'm pretty sure you're not me, but could you check on your end to be sure? lol
:)
Come on Joe Leave dead dogs lay Please.
Pretty funny you are siding with trolls, there is a few of you here,
lets apply your rules to their garbage.
Who are you talking about, half the time your post are cryptic, nobody knows what to make of them.
Once you won a debate when I posted historical facts anyone could check by removing the thread
and starting over. I still give you the benefit of the doubt and you know that, one post or one issue
does not make you.
There are people here that have put words in my mouth, attributed ideas to me,
they use that as a straw man to attack me, nobody says anything.
You bunch of whiners are fair game, you support trolls doing worse to these forums.
Gonzo is going to tell us about Joe King, very funny, above he proves what I was saying.
Joe King is an obvious troll but there are others here that support trolls openly,
they too are subtle trolls on issues.
Father John ! ROFL !
I don't post Occult shit on here, stars of david as truth, drug use on here,
supporting known trolls openly, I didn't have a description under my name
that translated to Jew Mason, some of what's been posted is so freaky
you people need all the help you can get. You mock people here.
Why would you even believe your posts would go unnoticed or unanswered.
An extend the rope policy was implemented, it got better and better.
Father John ! LOL !
Some one is definitely off their rocker.
Oh for Christ Sakes, I wish I had the time or energy to argue with you Magnes.
I really don't care what any of you say you, he's Orthodox , he's Atheist, that guy is a freeking Satanist, he's a fucking troll , no he's a troll , your sideing with a troll , your all going to hell in a handbag .
Come on how old are you guys?
I bet ya if I put you all in a room together you'd all come out with a little sense. ;)
I'll argue when I've had a good night sleep ! its been a long day.