Kokesh interviews Tarpley about Ron Paul: Get ready for a REALITY check

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Originally Posted by osoab

He's playing his part. He has to look like an outsider to get the "fringe" to accept him.

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I agree and they don't want too many to take notice of the ideas he was propagating...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzQ-doQFd3I

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Originally Posted by osoab

He's playing his part. He has to look like an outsider to get the "fringe" to accept him.

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I hear Charlie's making a run in 2016.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv-F-z7pM6o

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Originally Posted by osoab

He's playing his part. He has to look like an outsider to get the "fringe" to accept him.

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but to what end?? his following already has a hatred for electronic voting etc.. i dont see what they gain.

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Originally Posted by JDRock

but to what end?? his following already has a hatred for electronic voting etc.. i dont see what they gain.

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We stay corralled in one view/candidate. This prevents the fringe from bringing up multiple outsiders (of the system) as leaders that are out of their control.

I told you all a long time ago, and have kept telling you, how to go about fixing this, but you won't listen to me.

And you ain't gonna do it by electing a president.

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Originally Posted by Carl

I told you all a long time ago, and have kept telling you, how to go about fixing this, but you won't listen to me.

And you ain't gonna do it by electing a president.

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Could you quickly recap? thanks

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Originally Posted by Neuro

I agree and they don't want too many to take notice of the ideas he was propagating...

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Bookie is holding up his end in telling folks to move along now.

Lobby your states' legislators into reclaiming their Article 5 protected, sovereign right to equal suffrage in their Senate.

This will reinitialize the Constitution as standing law opening the door to more reforms.

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Originally Posted by osoab

He's playing his part. He has to look like an outsider to get the "fringe" to accept him.

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I would say from Ron's turnout the Fringe is mainstream and those who support Romney/Obama are lunatic fringe.

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Originally Posted by Carl

Lobby your states' legislators into reclaiming their Article 5 protected, sovereign right to equal suffrage in their Senate.

This will reinitialize the Constitution as standing law opening the door to more reforms.

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Never going to happen, we can't even get fluoride out of the water.

Yes, Carl it is a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Carl

Lobby your states' legislators into reclaiming their Article 5 protected, sovereign right to equal suffrage in their Senate.

This will reinitialize the Constitution as standing law opening the door to more reforms.

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Carl, what you propose is unattainable in Illinois. I don't know about other states, but ultimately there is one guy in the political sphere that matters and that guy isn't the governor.

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Originally Posted by Bigjon

I would say from Ron's turnout the Fringe is mainstream and those who support Romney/Obama are lunatic fringe.

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The same could have been said about Obama in 08.

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“The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”
― Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

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Originally Posted by osoab

Carl, what you propose is unattainable in Illinois. I don't know about other states, but ultimately there is one guy in the political sphere that matters and that guy isn't the governor.

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It's an individual state decision.

What state wouldn't like the idea of regaining their power and stature?

We won't know until we try.

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Originally Posted by Carl

It's an individual state decision.

What state wouldn't like the idea of regaining their power and stature?

We won't know until we try.

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You want us to vote people in? Seriously, it ain't going to happen. Too many leaches depend on the current system.

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Originally Posted by osoab

You want us to vote people in? Seriously, it ain't going to happen. Too many leaches depend on the current system.

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What are you talking about, vote who into what?

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Originally Posted by osoab

You want us to vote people in? Seriously, it ain't going to happen. Too many leaches depend on the current system.

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This is a good point. The way the federal government maintains control is by making everyone dependent on it. It takes money away from everyone then gives it back. Those who resist it get their money taken away.

Though Carl's point about changing the system is still better than trying to do it through the presidency. One man is a lot weaker than many small local wars.

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Originally Posted by osoab

You want us to vote people in? Seriously, it ain't going to happen. Too many leaches depend on the current system.

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Or later they'll forced into succession, after the power of the most numerous system on the planet is zapped by affinity.

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Originally Posted by vacuum

This is a good point. The way the federal government maintains control is by making everyone dependent on it. It takes money away from everyone then gives it back. Those who resist it get their money taken away.

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More and more states are becoming well aware that the federal gravy train is about to end and when it does, the only option left is totalitarian control imposed upon us through them. What I propose is to lobby the states and point out to them that they do have an alternate option, one that would make them the champions of liberty against a run amok central government.

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Originally Posted by Carl

It's an individual state decision.

What state wouldn't like the idea of regaining their power and stature?

We won't know until we try.

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Originally Posted by Carl

What are you talking about, vote who into what?

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What is your plan to get your ideas enacted? Voting isn't going to work.

Just about any other alternative discussion will get guys busting through our windows while wearing cool hats.

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Originally Posted by Carl

More and more states are becoming well aware that the federal gravy train is about to end and when it does, the only option left is totalitarian control imposed upon us through them. What I propose is to lobby the states and point out to them that they do have an alternate option, one that would make them the champions of liberty against a run amok central government.

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The ones in control of the states work hand in hand with fedgov. They are still on the gravy train (payroll).

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Originally Posted by osoab

The ones in control of the states work hand in hand with fedgov. They are still on the gravy train (payroll).

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Yes for now, but all of that is about to come crashing down.

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Originally Posted by Carl

Yes for now, but all of that is about to come crashing down.

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It will be a long time after the crash before the ideas you espouse have a chance to occur in our reality.

I'm not disagreeing with your thoughts, I just think they are premature at this time.

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Originally Posted by osoab

It will be a long time after the crash before the ideas you espouse have a chance to occur in our reality.

I'm not disagreeing with your thoughts, I just think they are premature at this time.

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You are wrong. Before the crash would be the most optimal time to push for the states' repudiation of the 17th. After the crash, it won't matter...

Kokesh is a jew, so I'm predisposed to not believing him from the get go. Hey, just saying.

Anyways, I always thought Ron Paul too smart to actually want the Presidency.

He would have to be carried there on the shoulders of many.

What they need is guy with a head on his shoulders like Kennedy, to take the job.

When he still had it. I mean, not that smart, but with the paul's principals. Leaders aren't typically that smart, just know how to use resources better than most.

ZCF rips tarpley a new one here for denying joosh power & criminality, 2 hour roundtable discussion w/tarpley & others inside,

Webster Tarpley’s Fanatical Devotion to Defending Jewry and Whitewashing Jewish Power Unveiled on Radio Show

Posted on June 16, 2012 by ZionCrimeFactory
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I think what Tarpley tries to put across is that Israel is setup as a scapegoat/fallguy for Anglo-Saxon capitalist ambition.

You could very well say the same existed in mid-evil ages with the crusades.

Kings get the priests to send "expansionary leftover" subjects to be slaughtered in the Middle East.

Israel has just taken over the role of the state supported then persecuted priest.

I didn't finish the whole thing, but didn't hear him say he supported jewry anywhere in there.

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