No need to be sorry. I wasn't even a thought in my parents mind at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
I still suggest you read the whole thing.
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No need to be sorry. I wasn't even a thought in my parents mind at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
I still suggest you read the whole thing.
The sixties was about FREEDOM MAN and before that WE WHERE ROBOTS controlled in everything we did and too afraid to step out of social norms.
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Originally Posted by osoab
Of course I have read it and even posted it in all likely but at the same time it is a construct for us too mentally accept this interpretation of a whole decade isnt it.It was the experience we all had then and shared in, once time has passed it is no more.
It was the experience that carried thru the seventies and eighties too a large degree. A lot of these people had to awaken in an era that was horrific in many ways.Filling ya teeth up with amalgam from a young age to watching napalm being dropped in VNam every night on TV.
Elvis started it by copying the blacks pelvis shaking around the same time the twist came and corrupted us all.....hahahaha
I was a kid in the 60s and the 70s rocked.
And the Monkees for instance where vary obvious from the start as being some bullshit thing they slapped together to cash in,we all new that, they where more a joke than anything.
I feel a strong sense of sarcasm.... but,Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
Didn't the hippies step into their "own" social norm?
I still suggest that you read the whole thing. It is one hell of a ride.
A snippet from Part 1.
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Join me now, if you have the time, as we take a stroll down memory lane to a time nearly four-and-a-half decades ago – a time when America last had uniformed ground troops fighting a sustained and bloody battle to impose, uhmm, ‘democracy’ on a sovereign nation.
It is the first week of August, 1964, and U.S. warships under the command of U.S. Navy Admiral George Stephen Morrison have allegedly come under attack while patrolling Vietnam’s Tonkin Gulf. This event, subsequently dubbed the ‘Tonkin Gulf Incident,’ will result in the immediate passing by the U.S. Congress of the obviously pre-drafted Tonkin Gulf Resolution, which will, in turn, quickly lead to America’s deep immersion into the bloody Vietnam quagmire. Before it is over, well over fifty thousand American bodies – along with literally millions of Southeast Asian bodies – will litter the battlefields of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
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One of the earliest on the Laurel Canyon/Sunset Strip scene is Jim Morrison, the enigmatic lead singer of The Doors. Jim will quickly become one of the most iconic, controversial, critically acclaimed, and influential figures to take up residence in Laurel Canyon. Curiously enough though, the self-proclaimed “Lizard King” has another claim to fame as well, albeit one that none of his numerous chroniclers will feel is of much relevance to his career and possible untimely death: he is the son, as it turns out, of the aforementioned Admiral George Stephen Morrison.
God I love Dylan ,you dont get it do you, look at his face ....hahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Sui Juris
I'm hoping your posts in this thread are sarcastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
In 1971, Time Magazine reported that Dylan was “returning to his Jewishness” and “getting into this ethnic Jewish thing.” A friend of his told the magazine, “He’s reading all kinds of books on Judaism, books about the Jewish resistance like the Warsaw ghetto. He took a trip to Israel last year that no one was supposed to know about and even, it is rumored, gave a large donation to the Israeli government.” The article continues:Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyStrike
Dylan denied giving money to Israel or to the fanatical Jewish Defense League, but he confesses great admiration for that “Never again” action group and its reckless leader Rabbi Meir Kahane. “He’s a really sincere guy,” says Bob. “He’s really put it all together.”Yes, you read that right. Bob Dylan said Meir Kahane, who favored the forced expulsion of Palestinians from their homeland and whose racist Kach party has since been banned from Israeli politics, is “a really sincere guy” who’s “really put it all together.”
Over the past couple decades, Dylan has become a supporter of the Chabad Lubavitch movement, which holds a firm Eretz Israel line regarding the ongoing occupation of the West Bank. In 1983, twenty years after he sang, “you don’t count the dead” and “you never ask questions, when God’s on your side,” Dylan penned a song in response to the international outrage over the devastating Israeli assault on Lebanon in 1982, which took the lives of nearly 18,000 Lebanese civilians and wounded about 30,000 others. The song did not mention the Sabra and Shatila Massacre, in which between 800 and 2,000 Palestinian and Lebanese civilians were murdered. The Israeli Kahan Commission, published in February 1983, found that Israel bore “indirect responsibility” and Defense Minister Ariel Sharon “bears personal responsibility” for the massacre.
Rather, Dylan’s song, entitled “Neighborhood Bully” and featured on his Infidels album (which incidentally also contains the songs “Man of Peace” and “License to Kill“), is a bitter and indignant defense of Israel’s actions, an exercise in Zionist mythology, eternal victimization, and bogus “right to self-defense” hasbara, that sounds like it was written collectively by Alan Dershowitz, Abe Foxman, Benjamin Netanyahu, Anthony Weiner, and Golda Meir.
http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/04/th...2%80%99t-heed/
I must know Bob Dylan ain't no Hippy Peacenik when he goes home to Israel.
:D
Excellent post on Dylan book.
I find out something new everyday about these flithy Deathmongers
Serpo,Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
I just read your above reply now, and would like to respond.
I think that at the heart of it, you are probably right. I am only writing from my perspective, and my parents and their friends might not be "typical" examples of hippy-kind.
I remember a lot of kindness and love growing up with hippies around me, but I also remember a lot of hypocricy... particularly about money... I guess it was what it was. I still don't understand WHY hippies, who claimed to represent self expression, freedom, and breaking out of the old ways of social interaction, would end up adopting COMMUNISM as an ideal! Tells me they understood love FAR more than they understood politics and human nature.
Meanwhile it is the 'Hippy' generation that is now in control of the For Profit War Machine.......And they LOVE it. Go figure.
In the last century we went from the 1st World War Generation,... to the "Greatest" Generation,
to the Baby Boomer or Beat Generation,.. to the Hippy Generation,..
to the Me Generation,... to the Metro Sexual Generation,..
to the Emo Gay generation,..... and finally to what?
The Barbie Porn Generation? Lol
It will likely be worse than anything that can be called the "Barbie Porn Generation". People my age have no sense; they are erratic, ill-spoken, and both functionally illiterate and innumerate. I can only imagine how much worse the coming crop of fools will be, and I do not want to be in this country when they are able to buy alcohol.
When I was growing up, I thought rock & roll was counter cultral, etc. In the 1980s after Reagan became president it went mainstream. It did not feel right. I realized then that the whole counter culture thing was nonsense. At that point I was not sure why, but the sudden transition did not make sense.
Yeah, what was wrong with hippies?Quote:
Originally Posted by Serpo
They were the ones who laid down and let the marxists run in without a fight. But what do you expect their parents fought alongside the marxists in europe. The hippies didn't give a shit about how their lives turned out or contributing to the advancement of society so long as they could get stoned and fuck in a park. The cultural marxists took control in the 60's and the hippies for the most part were just useful idiots. Look at them now, they sure changed the world (rolleyes)Quote:
Originally Posted by vacuum
I read this a few weeks ago.
Bob Dylan Sues Homeless Family With Disbaled Son For $25,000.00
Wanted $870,000.00
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"In light of statements made by Bob Dylan in his latest interviews regarding plagiarism, there is no need for him to admit that he plagiarized James Damiano's Songs, it's a given, it's also public knowledge, documented at that. The depositions and Mr. Dylan's interviews speak for themselves There is no debate. What can one say but that facts are facts"......Managing Editor The New York Times
After thirty-five hours of video taped depositions which implicate Bob Dylan, , and after fifteen and a half million dollars have been spent on this litigation, defendants Sony Music and or Bob Dylan still to this date Aug 16th, 2012, have never filed a counter, slander or libel suit against Damiano.
Defendants have been aware of James Damiano's public statements made against Bob Dylan for over ten years.
Judge Simandle disregarded Thirty Five hours of video taped depositions which implicate Dylan, Blatant admissions of guilt by defendants, eleven years of documents between James Damiano and CBS records and Dylan diminishing the integrity of the United States Judicial System.
It is not hard to imagine what Bob Dylan's professional reputation as a songwriter is worth when A sheet of handwritten lyrics to one Bob Dylan classic 'The Times They Are A-Changin’ has sold at auction for $422,500.00BBC News ReportsThe handwritten notes for the singer-songwriter's 1964 classic went under the hammer at Sotherby's in New York , where Hedge Fund manager Adam Sender placed the winning bid at $422,500 reports BBC News.On June 16th 2009 the following letter was sent to Bob Dylan's Attorney Orin Snyder written by James Damiano's Attorney in the Bob Dylan Damiano Plagiarism suit "Robert Church" regarding boxes of James Damiano's songs produced to Orin Snyder during discovery
There were approximately fifteen to twenty five boxes filled with anywhere from 200 to 400 finished and unfinished songs in each box (thirty five years of writing) that were never returned
Dear Mr. Snyder: I have one other matter. Mr. Damiano informs me that Steven Kramer (James Damiano's lead attorney) had several boxes of songs delivered to Parcher & Hayes during the discovery phase of his case against Dylan. Mr. Kramer never made copies of the documents, since I am presuming he felt pressed to comply with an overdue discovery request. Mr. Damiano informs me that he has never had all the original songs returned to his possession, even though the case is over. If you don’t mind, please explain what you can recall about Mr. Damiano’s song production. Do you still have songs unaccounted for? Can they be returned?
Sincerely Robert Church