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I think Ron is/was reflective of the founders, respect as due.
Ron Paul didn't even run Third Party let alone go the Declaration Of Independence route like the Founders. He is still in the REPUBLICAN PARTY and so is his son.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
He left the party in in late 80's and ran for president under the libertarian banner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Book
He has had more success as a republican. Besides, is platform is what the GOP used to be.
Book what's your position on this whole thing? Without a picture please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Book
Booky just wants to mock anything and everything that decent people stand for while (it/he/she) stands for nothing. A truly waste of human skin, if it's really human?
Bookie posts from behind his TOR facade from an undisclosed location. He has to hide his real location.Quote:
Originally Posted by Libertytree
thats whay i would of like to heard from ron , what he knows . just tell the people to there faces how bad there being fucked an name names . open the worm hole and let it fall were it will . i said this in a post some time ago after i gave a shit load of money to him . if he would just start naming names . being the house down . fuck the house mr ron , you could being it down its the only way this crap can endQuote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420
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Originally Posted by Libertytree
Whoever didn't join the Ron Paul cult is not a "decent person" like Mr. Libertytree.
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Originally Posted by General of Darkness
You guys here at GSUS have no more actual "Freedom" then the rest of us in the real world.
:(?? ...just more Patriot tee shirts and bumper stickers.
I'm willing and have no more free time.. Come to the thunderdome Biatch!Quote:
Originally Posted by Book
Bring it biatch, I been banned before for good reason but this might be better...
Bring it, I'll be waiting BIATCH!
Patriotic to who or what is the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Book
Oh FFS all the tough guys are either dead or in jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cebu_4_2
Now be nice or i'll wipe that smile right off your face. ;)
FYI
Ron Paul wants to dismantle the TSA
I think RP could achieve a lot just by endinf the FED and that is a stated goal of his. Without the FED a whole lot of other stuff goes with it.
Also as head honcho he could pick up the phone, call a state or federal attorney and say, "hey, go prosecute so and so". To me that's an easy thing which no POTUS seems to be capable of.
POTUS is very close to PITA(SS). Always comes to mind when I see POTUS.
If Ron Paul even got a chance to do half the things he says he believes in, it would absolutely transform this country.
Even if the only thing he did was a constitutional review of all executive orders, it would change a lot.
because of his age, Ron Paul will get off the RP bandwagon before i do.
surprises yet to come - Tampa & whatever revelations come out in an RP biography about the 2012 (scripted) election race.
Romney? lol As if there was really a choice..... You deny that choices are made FOR us as I stated in the OP?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigjon
Ideals are nice obviously - we can all dream can't we. They don't keep you employed - They have not kept money sound - they have not kept the country out of foreign wars and they wont keep a JBT's boot off your neck.
You have to actually do something.
I respect the man. I respect his ideals as many of them are my own. My point is that this is not working. If my favorite car breaks down- I can wish it fixed all I want. That won't make it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
Really - that was the entire reason for bringing it up. I can't possibly deny all the accolades that are being are being accredited to the good Dr.
It's easy to be an optimist - but I was trying to get us to address what he hasn't done as opposed to what he has. And he HAS done so much so I don't want to take anything away from that. This is about results. Fact is for the most part things are only geting worse.
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Originally Posted by Book
As for Book's posts - I can for once see what he's getting at. I don't think he's just trying to poke you all in the eyes - I think he's trying to get you to open them.
Does that make me indecent LT?
Hey you stupid jerk, ROMNEY has only one ideal and that is ROMNEY.Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ.G0ldD0t
Bookie how many sock puppets do you have?
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Originally Posted by Bigjon
Nice BJ...
Don't ban him mods.
Book is making a very valid point. We have all quoted many times "If voting changed anything it would be illegal" (paraphrased).
No one digs on PatColo who I think agrees with Book here as well - with electronic voting machines it literally becomes a false hope thinking a vote cast for Paul will count. Yet Ron Paul never mentions the legitimacy of elections (my primary motive for not voting) when electronic machines are involved. Why is that?
Audit the fed! Yeah! Just keep believing in fantasy elections....I want to believe Paul is genuine. Sadly, he really does play a Pied Piper of Hamelin role if you are looking for it.
^This is the point Book makes as I read it.
We are long past the ballot box stage. We are nearing the end of the soap box stage. Next up is the final act, the ammo box, set to begin once Europe begins to burn.
Book implores you to see the state you all live in & take it up a notch to his Stateist's Royal Inquisition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_leY_LgOuQ
Why would they ban me for telling the truth?Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ.G0ldD0t
Of course not JJ, I certainly hope you didn't take it that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ.G0ldD0t
You have to do something.
All the people who support Ron Paul are doing something. They are running for delegate positions, they are taking control of the Republican party and turning it to a direction that is much better than the position of nothing but carp, carp carp. You folks are just complaining on the internet and following your leader bookie who loves big gov.
naa man. we're cool. Didn't figure you meant it that way. I just didn't think that Book's post in this particular thread were call for that - Now some of his posts in other threads are fair game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Libertytree
As Ron says, "Why can't it be both?"
Could he just be running to change the platform, and wanting the Presidency at the same time?
I don't think so.
But I do think he could have Freedom ideals, and be fully unconscious of being played (controlled).
My 2 cents. Ya'll sure are hammering on old Book. Really calling him out and literally calling him any name that suits your fancy.
I remember on GIM when Book was khalil Gibran (sp?) and he wouldn't stop with the picture posting crusade and Skyvike banned him again and again.
If some of ya'll had your way you would ban Book and shut him down just like Skyvike did! Skyvike for crying out loud! Frick guys!
Folks shouting him down and ridiculing him for his views and posts kinda remind me of when Ron Paul would be on those debate panels
and all the media and neo cons would ridicule him and try to turn folks against him because he wouldn't rally around the flag. Ron Paul
never resorted to name calling and vitriol and I don't expect he would want his adherents to do so either.
Back in 08 the wife and I gave the maximum allowable contribution to Ron Paul. We went to the meetups, handed out literature and held up signs
tater tot even held a sign, he was 9 then. This time around we kept our fiat and conserved our energy but I still believe in free speech and
liberties, freedom etc.
One more thing I've noticed, about the only time Book actually gives advice is when he's encouraging folks to prep for what's ahead. Everything else
(my opinion of course) is to provoke thought.
Just how I see it...
I think you're just seeing red man. Book and I have less in common than you think. But we agree on this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigjon
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Originally Posted by DMac
So would we be better off without Ron Paul?
It's kinda like duct tape... Duct tape may not be able to fix everything, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't exist or that it should be scorned because it won't help brain tumors.
What is it with you and tools? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420
Look - if the brain surgeon brings duct tape in the OR I'ma get up off the table and kik his ass. BUT if I gotta patch... say.. some Duct? I love me some Duct tape!
Bigjon, Can you please comment on my position stated here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigjon
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Originally Posted by Sui Juris
Dont you think RP knows that voting has NEVER set man free? EVER!
Why didnt the founders rally and over take the King's Government? They could have stayed there, and tried their best to reform it. Why didnt they?
Wonder what this guy thinks...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIec4NVPOUk&feature=player_embedded
IMO if ron Paul was ever serious about taking the seat of POTUS, I think his strategy should have been to campaign in 2008, then part way through the beginning of the next campaigning for 2012, he should have left the republican party and either joined the Libertarian Party or the Constitution Party.
Continuing in the LRP platform with other LRP contenders vying for the same crown was totally pointless. It turned his "Team-mates" into enemies.
His grassroots followers would have stuck with him if he had have joined another party that was closer to what the founding fathers would have approved of. (Even though a majority of the FF were members of the FMC anyways. It's all by design)
Thank you for your kind words tater.Quote:
Originally Posted by tater
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Exactly. Thanks for noticing JJ.G0ldD0t.Quote:
Originally Posted by JJ.G0ldD0t
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http://1389blog.com/pix/US-Constitut...ilet-paper.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by DMac
Thanks DMac. Those here who go ad hom on me because I question their cherished delusion are experiencing a profound and painful inner conflict. I understand the anger. My intent in this thread is to disabuse all that any notion of "voting" is gonna improve things. Those Ron Paul and Tea Party and Occupy tee shirts and bumper stickers are embarrassing displays of naivete.
Spend this energy and passion getting your Preps in order.
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Jan 23, 2012 10:33am
Rand Paul’s Pat-Down Standoff With TSA in Nashville Ends
Sen. Rand Paul told his communications director this morning he was being detained by TSA at the Nashville airport...
A TSA spokesman disputed that Paul was ever “detained.” But he was not granted access to the secure area of the airport when he tried to board a flight Monday morning. The standoff was short-lived. By late morning, according to TSA, Paul had been booked on another flight and made it through the screening process.
The TSA version of events is that Paul triggered an alarm during routine airport screening and refused to complete the screening process (pat-down) in order to resolve the issue. Paul was escorted out of the screening area by local law enforcement. “When an irregularity is found during the TSA screening process, it must be resolved prior to allowing a passenger to proceed to the secure area of the airport,” according to an official statement released by TSA. “Passengers who refuse to complete the screening process cannot be granted access to the secure area in order to ensure the safety of others traveling.”
Paul’s office confirmed he set off an airport security full-body scanner “on a glitch,” according to a spokesman. The Paul staffer said TSA agents would not let Paul walk back through the body scanner and were demanding a full body pat-down. The Paul spokesman said his office called TSA administrator John Pistole about the incident this morning.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...-in-nashville/
http://www.graphicsgrotto.com/emotic...rolleyes11.gif Would one of the Founding Fathers let TSA grope their balls then later only complain to a government administrator?
Maybe Ron Paul ain't ready to take a bullet for all the gutless cowards in this country who would just watch it happen and do nothing about it. Anybody here willing to take his place and put their life and their family members lives on the line? That's what JFK, RFK and JFK jr. did and look how that worked out for them. Ross Perot was "nutralized" according to Chip Tatum.
I think if we're going to have change the people of this country are going to have to raise some real hell first and then hope for someone like Ron Paul to step in to guide this country back on the right path.