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I am very sad for the families and the people who survived this, it is a tragedy. Prayers out to them.
Then I start thinking about the safety of me and mine, I am always very aware/observant of my surroundings while in a public place, (not so much in a movie theater,) I guess now I need to pay more attention.
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I think I read there were enough explosives in his apartment to take down his building and he one next to it. Add that to the thing tater just mentioned, and clearly we can see it's a total false flag.
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Glass
was just reading this. You have more info than the report I saw although mine says 14. 1 guy? Denver too.
An assault rifle? So we know he is LEO then.
just a fed i think, tear gas??really and 20 minute response time?? it HAS to be planned shennanigans!
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Risk must increase exponentially with the number of pill-addled drones in a given area.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...6pLid%3D181880
A med student that dropped out last month, 24 years old. WTH
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Skirnir_
Risk must increase exponentially with the number of pill-addled drones in a given area.
If this was just a guy with a gun that snapped, that would make sense. But think about how long he had been working on this. He had
- about 4 firearms
- bullet-proof vest
- gas mask
- tear gas
- enough explosives in his apartment to bring the building down
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It is being reported the shooter entered the the theater from an emergency exit.
How do you do that when emergency exits open from inside out?
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There are lots of ways Old Steel.
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The shooter is a coward. What message is he trying to send by killing unarmed people who have not done harm? Had he been brave, he would have sacrificed his life to take down some criminals instead.
I am trying to find the juxtaposition between this and batman, a man who fights but refuses to kill criminals.
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old steel
It is being reported the shooter entered the the theater from an emergency exit.
How do you do that when emergency exits open from inside out?
I was thinking that too. They are locked from the outside because they don't want people to sneak in and watch movies for free.
Leaves 3 possibilities.
1. The door was broken. (unlikely)
2. The shooter was in the theater earlier that day and did something to the door to keep it from locking.
3. Someone else helped the shooter get inside.
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Besides the customary concerns for those dead and injured and their families, friends, and loved ones...
...the likelihood of a new wave of copycat crimes in this venue by similar attention seeking fringe or other "going postal" unstables would appear to yours truly to be very very high! A different type of Rocky Mountain Picture Show horror flick cult following on the come...
beefsteak
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old steel
Looks like a Psyop to me courtesy of you know who.
Dark Knight Rises movie poster.
Attachment 3221
Terrorist from 1972 Olympics Munich Massacre
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Todays Aurora Colorado shootings took place in Theatre
9.
9 Israelis were killed during the 1972 Munich Massacre.
Anyone else seeing this?
The Jewish/Zionist PTB want to do to America what Stalin did to Russia only things standing in their way are a couple hundred million of these.
Attachment 3223
The number 9 is symbolic for completion..
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vacuum
If this was just a guy with a gun that snapped, that would make sense. But think about how long he had been working on this. He had
- about 4 firearms
- bullet-proof vest
- gas mask
- tear gas
- enough explosives in his apartment to bring the building down
Some people here may have the majority of the items on that list, but have no intent to put them to use in such a way.
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A few days ago, I went to a busy mall here in town and had lunch with friends at the Food Court. I was looking at the people walking around in the mall trying to assess the general mental health of people. At some point while watching the people around me, I tried to review in my mind what I would do if somebody started shooting into the crowd. It didn't take long for me to dismiss that as paranoia and I drifted off to other thoughts. I'm aware of the possibility, but only at a very deep level in my consciousness. I trust myself to do what needs doing to make myself safe, although I'm not as quick as I once was.
Hatha
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Saying now 71 wounded with 12 dead.
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Batman movie massacre a reflection of violent video games, TSA violence against citizens and psychiatric drugging of young white men
(NaturalNews) Medical student James Holmes of Aurora, Colorado reportedly opened fire on moviegoers who had filled a theater late last night to watch the newly-released "Batman" movie -- an orgy of violence and Big Brother propaganda. Dressed in riot gear and wearing a gas mask that resembled the fictional evil character "Bane" depicted in the movie itself, Holmes burst into the theater and began shooting moviegoers, injuring 50 and killing 12.
ABC News reports that James Holmes was a medical student at the University of Colorado, pursuing a PhD. He attended the University of Colorado Denver Medical Campus. (http://abcnews.go.com/US/mass-shooti...heater-14-peop...)
What is truly extraordinary about this horrifying scene is that nobody shot back. Given the large number of lawful citizens in Colorado who carry concealed weapons -- off-duty police and Sheriffs, armed citizens and former military -- it seems likely that at least one person in the theater would have been carrying a concealed weapon which could have been deployed to help stop further bloodshed. Perhaps the confusion of the event prevented this from happening. Many moviegoers reported thinking it was some sort of "promotional special effects" event rather than a real massacre, according to news reports.
The psychiatric drug connection and Columbine 2012
As most NaturalNews readers well know, it is highly likely that James Holmes has been on psychiatric drugs. Not only does he fit the classic definition of a person typically put on psych drugs -- young white disturbed male -- his actions in the movie theater almost perfectly resemble those of the psyched-out shooters in the 1999 Columbine High School massacre: Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbi...chool_massacre)
Just like Homes today, the Columbine shooters rampaged through a crowd of people, opening fire randomly, in a "detached" mode of mental insanity that is not normal or healthy.
This is what many people forget to ask when they learn of such massacres: No gun pulls its own trigger. There is a mind behind the act, and when that mind is bathed in mind-altering psychotropic drugs with a known side effects profile of violence and suicidal behavior (http://www.naturalnews.com/027425_dr..._violence.html), then worsened yet more with violent video games and movies like Batman, a violent outcome is almost a certainty.
Mainstream media routines fails to mention psychiatric drugs
As you might suspect, the mainstream media systematically refuses to investigate the psychiatric drug link to violent criminals. The vast majority of shootings witnessed over the last two decades have involved psychiatric drugs (http://www.naturalnews.com/025826_An...l_shootings.ht...), which are known to cause people to feel "detached from reality."
As Wikipedia reports about the Columbine shooter Eric Harris:
In one of his scheduled meetings with his psychiatrist, Eric Harris complained of depression, anger and to possessing suicidal thoughts. As a result of this, he was prescribed the anti-depressant Zoloft. He subsequently complained to feeling restless and to experiencing a lack of concentration to his doctor, and in April, he was switched to a similar anti-depressant drug -- Luvox. At the time of his death, Harris had therapeutic Luvox levels in his system. Some analysts, such as psychiatrist Peter Breggin, have argued that one or both of these medications may have contributed to Harris's actions. Breggin claimed that side-effects of these drugs include increased aggression, loss of remorse, depersonalization, and mania. A subsequent study conducted by the Institute for Safe Medication Practices identified Luvox as being 8.4 times more likely than other medications to be associated with violence.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbi...acre#Medicatio...)
Federal government directly promotes culture of violence
In the years since the 1999 shooting, the U.S. government has, itself, rolled out the TSA and subjected American citizens to sexual molestation, strip-searches, public humiliation, verbal assaults and physical harassment by the TSA workers. Those workers -- who ridiculously call themselves "officers" -- turn out to be pedophiles, drug dealers, child porn distributors and thieves -- this is now a matter of public record, of course. (http://www.naturalnews.com/036346_TS...tleblower.html)
As a result, the U.S. government has escalated violence against innocent people and helped spread a "culture of violence and abuse" across America.
Ultra-violent movies like Batman only add to the culture of violence, depicting emotionally intense scenes of runaway violence, only to be resolved by a masked vigilante character who colludes with government to "kill bad guys" outside the law, with no due process.
The Pentagon also directly contributes to runaway violence of today's youth by dosing active-duty soldiers with record levels of mind-altering psychiatric drugs. Today, more than 110,000 soldiers are on mind-altering drugs (http://www.naturalnews.com/036001_so...drugs_veterans...), and that number is rising by the week.
Also today, more U.S. soldiers die from suicide than from combat -- a first in the history of the world. Psychiatric drugging of soldiers is at obscene levels (http://www.naturalnews.com/035232_US..._drugs_Afghani...), and it is conducted in part because it "detaches" soldiers from the reality of what they're doing, allowing them to more easily pull the trigger when their rifles are pointed at other human beings.
See the NaturalNews Infographic on the psychiatric drugging of children: http://www.naturalnews.com/Infograph...tric-Drugging-...
This practice is openly encouraged by the government itself, which wants soldiers to think of war as a type of video game with no real consequences. It is that type of warped, detached reality that was present in both the Columbine shootings as well as today's Batman movie shooting.
Remember: The U.S. government teaches violence and engages in violence at every level. Virtually everything the government demands of its citizens is done under the threat of violence. Don't want to have your child subjected to chemotherapy? You'll be arrested at gunpoint. (http://www.naturalnews.com/026305.html)
Don't want to vaccinate your children? You'll be rounded up like cattle and forced to vaccinate at gunpoint. (http://www.naturalnews.com/022267.html)
For the government to say that "We are the peacekeepers and CITIZENS are the ones causing violence" is absurd and factually untrue. Virtually all the real violence carried out against innocent people over the last 100 years has been conducted by governments, including the U.S. government which dropped nuclear weapons on civilian populations in Japan. And that doesn't even mention the Dresden firebombing massacre in Germany, also carried out by the U.S. government. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dresden_firebombing)
The No. 1 cause of death of innocent people is, throughout the history of the world, democide -- death by government. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide)
The deadly combination: Violent movies, video games, military training and psychiatric drugs
Here's the bottom line in all this: America is a nation with a long history of private gun ownership, and for most of its years that was never a problem. So what changed?
What changed is the mental state of Americans. Today, young males are absolutely inundated with violent video games, violent movies, sexual molestation by TSA goons and often firsthand military training. The military training is not, by itself, a negative thing, but when combined with psychiatric drugs, it can become a deadly combination. (http://www.naturalnews.com/027425_dr..._violence.html)
America has become a cesspool of violent culture, and the minds of today's youth are further assaulted by processed food chemicals, fluoride and vaccines, all of which compromise healthy brain function. We are a culture gone mad from bad programming, bad food, bad chemicals and bad government.
And the worst part is that the Obama administration is no doubt gleeful that people died in a shooting because this was part of Eric Holder's plan to begin with. Operation Fast & Furious, carried out by the U.S. government itself, sold thousands of guns into the hands of Mexican drug gangs for the purpose of seeing those guns spill back over into the USA and cause outbreaks of so-called "gun violence." (http://www.naturalnews.com/032934_AT..._firearms.html)
Alex Jones said today there is a, "100 percent chance this shooting is a false flag event," meaning it was planned in advance and carried out for the purpose of furthering a political agenda to ban civilian ownership of firearms.
Thus, today's shooting in Aurora, Colorado is no doubt putting a smile on the faces of people in the Obama administration who will try to seize upon this shooting as justification for taking lawful firearms away from ALL citizens, including off-duty peace officers. It fits right into their Fast and Furious plan, after all. Here's yet another example of the government actually promoting violence in order to achieve a political agenda.
That agenda, of course, is the desire to disarm the entire civilian population. Such a move would obviously unleash even more violence among armed criminals who, by definition, do not turn in guns when ordered to do so by the state. This massacre could have been halted -- and lives saved -- if just one concealed carry holder in that movie theater had pulled out their gun and shot Holmes for the sole purpose of immediately stopping his actions and protecting innocent life. Had I personally been in that theater and not been one of the first victims shot by surprise, I would have taken decisive action to end that violence by engaging Holmes with my own firearm. Whether I lived or died, Holmes would have at least hesitated under a barrage of return fire, and that would have saved lives and helped protect innocents.
Yes, I am a concealed carry permit holder. And if you ever see me die in the act of protecting innocents, rest assured my magazines will have been emptied in the direction of the threat. It's not heroism, it's just basic human decency to want to protect innocent lives against violent criminals, whether they be mentally impaired individuals or rogue governments.
My heart and prayers go out to the families who lost their loves ones in Aurora, Colorado. I pray for an end to violence, an end to government violence against the people, and an end of the psychiatric drugging of children everywhere.
http://www.naturalnews.com/036535_Ba..._shooting.html
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"Avoid simplicity. There will be an inevitable rush to blame movies, music, video games and who knows what else. No movie explains why people commit mass murder."
Oh, but there IS a simple solution - keep guns out of the hands of 'crazies'.
Even Fox Nooz is asking, "Did this shooter have permits for these guns?"
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One witness stated that from the time the gas canister was released to the time the final shot was about 20 to 30 minutes. Now that right there is enough to see something fishy here. Police took 20 to 30 minutes to respond, does not make sense.
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slvrbugjim
One witness stated that from the time the gas canister was released to the time the final shot was about 20 to 30 minutes. Now that right there is enough to see something fishy here. Police took 20 to 30 minutes to respond, does not make sense.
Now that is interesting!
The press conference that was just broadcast, the chief of police said that the first responders were at the scene within 1-2 minuets, from the first 911 call.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAkekdWlunU
Edit: Wrong video, Guess the most recent one shown is not on the web yet!
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Dogman
Now that is interesting!
The press conference that was just broadcast, the chief of police said that the first responders were at the scene within 1-2 minuets, from the first 911 call.
They might have been there, but wouldn't/couldn't go into the theater because of the gas. (?)
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k-os
They might have been there, but wouldn't/couldn't go into the theater because of the gas. (?)
Good question! People had to be poring out of that place, once they clued unto what was going on. But I do not buy them doing nothing for 20-30 minuets. Will try and post the news conference that was shown on CNN less than one hour ago, once I can find it.
Text here/ says also video but can not find it yet.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1690270.html
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k-os
They might have been there, but wouldn't/couldn't go into the theater because of the gas. (?)
Isn't a gas mask standard SWAT equipment?
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Originally Posted by
old steel
It is being reported the shooter entered the the theater from an emergency exit.
How do you do that when emergency exits open from inside out?
Supposedly someone is saying there was a guy that took a call during the movie then went to the emergency exit and possibly signaled someone. Who knows....
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Dogman
Now that is interesting!
The press conference that was just broadcast, the chief of police said that the first responders were at the scene within 1-2 minuets, from the first 911 call.
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Yep, then if the police did show up that fast then they waited for him to finish shooting then walked out the back, gave himself up and was never shot at. Sounds very much like Columbine and like Virginia Tech.
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slvrbugjim
Yep, then if the police did show up that fast then they waited for him to finish shooting then walked out the back, gave himself up and was never shot at. Sounds very much like Columbine and like Virginia Tech.
It would not have taken long for the shooter to go through several magazines. You can pray and spray even being semi-auto, a bunch of lead in less than one or two minuets 20-30 round mags can be emptied very quickly.
Edit: One shot per second, time it yourself, one minuet and 60 shots semi-aimed down range easy to do.
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slvrbugjim
Yep, then if the police did show up that fast then they waited for him to finish shooting then walked out the back, gave himself up and was never shot at. Sounds very much like Columbine and like Virginia Tech.
??? Is this true? I know it's true about Columbine. I can attest, having gone through police training. Columbine changed active shooter response tactics. We were trained to go in asap and go directly to the active shooter to minimize loss of life. It's the most dangerous situation we were trained for.
Columbine was studied, what the police could have done better. Those changes became a standard (I believe) for law enforcement across the nation.
It's hard to imagine the first cops on scene would not go in immediately.
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horseshoe3
Isn't a gas mask standard SWAT equipment?
I would imagine that any organization that uses gas should have gas masks as standard equipment. So, my answer is that if it's not standard SWAT equipment, it should be.
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slowbell
??? Is this true? I know it's true about Columbine. I can attest, having gone through police training. Columbine changed active shooter response tactics. We were trained to go in asap and go directly to the active shooter to minimize loss of life. It's the most dangerous situation we were trained for.
Columbine was studied, what the police could have done better. Those changes became a standard (I believe) for law enforcement across the nation.
It's hard to imagine the first cops on scene would not go in immediately.
More than likely the shooter was done with his shooting and trying to leave by the time the cops got there. See my above post.
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slowbell
??? Is this true? I know it's true about Columbine. I can attest, having gone through police training. Columbine changed active shooter response tactics. We were trained to go in asap and go directly to the active shooter to minimize loss of life. It's the most dangerous situation we were trained for.
Columbine was studied, what the police could have done better. Those changes became a standard (I believe) for law enforcement across the nation.
It's hard to imagine the first cops on scene would not go in immediately.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...86J0AM20120720
:...Arriving on the scene within 90 seconds of the first emergency calls, officers immediately took the suspect into custody in the parking lot behind the cinema, where he surrendered without a fight, Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said...."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shooting
"ABC News and its correspondent Brian Ross initially suggested on-air that the shooter was a member of a Colorado Tea Party group after finding a person of the same name as the alleged suspect on the group's website. Ross later corrected the mistake on-air and ABC News issued a formal apology for "disseminating that information before it was properly vetted" "
Moron.
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JohnQPublic
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...86J0AM20120720
:...Arriving on the scene within 90 seconds of the first emergency calls, officers immediately took the suspect into custody in the parking lot behind the cinema, where he surrendered without a fight, Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said...."
It was a witness that was in the theater, in a phone interview that gave the 20 minute number. What really jumped out at me was after this was stated, the interviewer did not question this timeline.
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The Communist Nooz Nyetwork is reporting he used an AR-15 along with the shotgun and a Glock .40.
CNN with all their gun-grabbing cohorts are pounding the gun control mantra.
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In a situation like that, I bet the time seems a lot longer than it really is.
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slowbell
We were trained to go in asap and go directly to the active shooter to minimize loss of life. It's the most dangerous situation we were trained for.
FEMA was also trained to enhance the states local abilities in Katrina.
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Any fliers show up yet about FEMA/DHS exercises in the area (e.g., Kathy Gifford)?
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midnight rambler
Oh, but there IS a simple solution - keep guns out of the hands of 'crazies'.
Even Fox Nooz is asking, "Did this shooter have permits for these guns?"
they were purchased 'legally', though i don't like the term because the US gov. is not worthy of regulating gun ownership.
seeing as how the US gov is a criminal entity that can't even regulate itself.
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old steel
"Guns shells were falling on her forehead...
Blood and guts everywhere ... guts...
It was pure silence while he was reloading..."
She should write a book.
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old steel
Whoa WTF is this all about?
That eye witness sounds exactly like the 911 "on the scene" structural engineer!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5y8PtfKA14