I'm gonna have to go with middle bottom (whoever that is) after seeing PatColo's post,Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass
as the anti-pope would have to appear a beautiful man.
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I'm gonna have to go with middle bottom (whoever that is) after seeing PatColo's post,Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass
as the anti-pope would have to appear a beautiful man.
Pope Gregory XII (1406–1415) resigned in 1415 in order to end the Western Schism, which had reached the point where there were three claimants to the Papal throne: Roman Pope Gregory XII, Avignon Antipope Benedict XIII, and Pisan Antipope John XXIII. Before resigning he formally convened the already existing Council of Constance and authorized it to elect his successor.
I was afraid of this. This was not a normal papal resignation. I'm not sure there ever has been such.
Should be interesting to see where this goes. The barometer is all primed, and ready...waiting for some weather.
To top this last guy, maybe just hang a star of David around Darth Vader ???
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/up...pope-vader.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelo_Scola
serpo.........$100,000,000http://resources2.news.com.au/images...contenders.jpg
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/wor...-1226575785040
If they made me pope
I would dismantle the organization immediately and explain to the follows that due too all the misdeeds of the past the church has too dissolve.
We cannot have people joining up and incurring our karma that is going to tarnish them in a negative manner.
Many people have become dependent on the church for their their spiritual salvation which dosnt really seemed to of happened after centuries of being in existence.It means we have failed you and ourselves as we have become what we preach not to be. A selfish ,greedy powerful controlling organization corrupted in many ways,which has turned our light dark.
So from now own we become our own church as we are all a spark of the creator and it is now each persons responsibility to carry love in their hearts where ever they go.
Go forth and be free.
Put me down for a fiver on the dude from Nigeria. Big pharma knows this guy is gonna push some viagra, cialis, tadalafil, etc... Hard call. The red Italian guy might host better human sacrifices...
Whoever gets the job, he's going to have to be a papal person...
The competition is going to be on CBS and hosted by Jeff Probst
Since this is relevant, I recommend the italian movie "Habemus Papam", which is, I believe, currently available on Netflix streaming under the english title ("We Have a Pope").
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...emus-Papam.png
It's interesting how the supposedly last pope comes to the thrown within less than 2 months of dec 21st 2012.
And Ratzinger announced that he will step down on the first day of the Lunar New Year.Quote:
Originally Posted by vacuum
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Celestine_VQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnQPublic
Although it was often said that Celestine was the only pope to resign voluntarily (prior to Benedict XVI doing so in 2013), in fact, other popes have similarly abdicated of their own will. These are John XVIII in 1009 and Benedict IX in May 1045 (although he regretted it and was soon back). There was also Gregory XII in 1415 who agreed to quit at the request of the Council of Constance. Benedict XVI announced his resignation in February 2013.
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They intend to oust Pope Benedict XVI from the Seat of Peter using devious means ← Previous Post Saturday, May 26th, 2012 @ 04:00 pm Next Post→
I am delighted to have you back with Me. It is important to keep close to Me now My daughter. The time is short and you have much work to do.
Today I ask of My followers, My dearest daughter, to pray hard for My beloved Vicar Pope Benedict XVI . He, My Holy Servant is under terrible persecution behind closed doors in the Holy See.
I have told you before that the Masonic Groups who have a vice like grip inside The Vatican want My Beloved Pope out.
And they intend to oust him from the Seat of Peter using devious means.
He will, as I have told you in the past, have to flee for he will have little choice.
This time is short. You must pray hard that he can stay as long as possible for as soon as he leaves, the imposter, the False Prophet, will take his place.
How My tears flow for My Beloved Church on earth at this time. All those sacred servants of mine, who accept My Holy Word, as it is given to you at this time, hear Me now.
You must remain faithful to the Holy Mass and uphold the daily Sacrifices. For very soon you will be forced to swallow a lie.
The daily Sacrifices, in honour of My Crucifixion and the change of the wine into My Blood and the Bread into My Body, will be changed, twisted and I will be vilified through new laws introduced by the False Prophet.
You must never accept anything that is not the Truth
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You must never accept heresy from within the walls of My Holy See. If you do then you will remove yourself from Me.
Many of you will have to offer the Holy Mass in secret and you will need all the courage you can get by praying to Me and asking Me to make you strong.
The changes will begin in the Holy Eucharist itself. You will soon be told that Holy Communion, My True Presence is, in fact, something else.
You will be told it means different things. But this is a terrible lie.
The Holy Eucharist is My Body and Blood given to you to allow Me to fill you with My Holy Spirit, to give you the nourishment that you need for your souls.
When the time comes and you, My Sacred Servants, are presented with the new modern interpretation then you will know that the contamination has already started.
This is when you will need to prepare. Gather together and defend the Truth of My Crucifixion. Do not accept the lies, the changes in the Holy Mass and the Holy Eucharist. For if you do then My Presence will be lost to all of God’s children.
Follow Me. This is the greatest challenge you will ever have to face but I will give you the Graces to discern the truth from the sacrilegious fiction you will be asked to accept in My Holy Name.
You must ask for My Help now through this Crusade Prayer (56). It is for Priests seeking Protection for the Holy Eucharist
O Dear Father, in the name of your Precious Son,
Who sacrificed Himself on the Cross for the whole of mankind
Help me to stay true to the Truth
Cover me with the Precious Blood of Your Son and give me the
Graces to continue to serve You in faith, trust and honour for the rest of my ministry
Never let me stray from true meaning of the Sacrifice of the Holy Mass or the presentation of
The Holy Eucharist to Your children.
Give me the strength to represent You and feed Your flock the way
in which they must be fed with the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of
Your Son, Jesus Christ, The Saviour of Mankind.
Amen.
Please know that I walk with each of you, My Beloved Sacred Servants, every day.
I hold you up. Lean on Me and I will keep you close to My Sacred Heart in these times of terrible torment within the Catholic Church.
Your Beloved Jesus
The Celestine Sign
June 30, 2010 by Robert Moynihan, PhD.
Today is the Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul, apostles of the beginnings of the Church — one to the Jews, the other to the nations. But the times remind one of a man who took the name “Celestine” when he became Pope, a name never chosen again…
“I resign the papacy out of the desire for humility, for a purer life, for a stainless conscience, the deficiencies of my own physical strength, my ignorance, the perverseness of the people, my longing for the tranquility of my former life.” –Pope St. Celestine V (1209-1296), also known as Pietro da Marrone, the only Pope in history to resign the papacy, giving the reasons for his resignation on December 13, 1294 after only five months as Pope. He lived another year and a half, kept in prison by his successor, Boniface VIII (the quote above is slightly paraphrased to put it into the first person)
“I saw and recognized the shade of him who by his cowardice made the great refusal” –Dante, Inferno, III, 59–60; many scholars believe Dante is referring to Celestine V, placing him in Hell because Dante felt Celestine had acted in a cowardly way by resigning rather than facing and fighting the forces of evil in the Church)
A Mystery in Plain Sight
Today in Rome, on the Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul, Pope Benedict XVI gave a remarkable homily in which he mentions the threats that will come against the Church in the “last days.”
This homily must be read in part as Benedict’s commentary on the sexual abuse crisis and the increasing pressure being placed on the Church by secular judicial and law enforcement authorities. (see below)
The homily thus provides a deep insight into Benedict’s mind at this troubled moment in his pontificate.
The feast in Rome on June 29 each year is the feast in which the Pope places the “pallium,” a cloth made of wool, upon the shoulders of archbishops from around the world chosen during the past year as a sign that they are “linked” or “yoked” to the universal Church, to Rome, and to the person of the Pope.
In his homily, the Pope speaks of the “liberty of the Church” and says this liberty is protected by the strength of the union between the bishops around the world and the bishop of Rome, the Pope.
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A little more than a year ago, on April 29, 2009, Benedict did something unusual. He left his own “pallium,” the sign of his episcopal authority and his connection to Christ, on a tomb in Aquila, Italy. The tomb held the remains of a relatively obscure medieval Pope named was Celestine V (1209-1296).
Why?
(Picture above: The Pope at the tomb of Pope Celestine V in April, 2009. The Pope now wears a pallium designed by Monsignor Guido Marini, a cross between the short pallium with black crosses worn by Metropolitan Archbishops and the longer ones with red crosses. This resembles the pallium worn by the the figure of Celestine in his shrine which is a short pallium with black crosses over an elaborate Roman chasuble.)
Celestine was a holy monk. His model was John the Baptist. His wore hair-cloth and a chain of iron. He fasted every day except Sunday and each year he kept four Lents on bread and water alone. Many kindred spirits gathered about him eager to imitate his rule of life, and before his death there were 36 monasteries, numbering 600 religious, bearing his papal name (Celestini).
But he was not just a monk.
He was elected Pope in 1294, a time of great corruption and contention in the Church, after a conclave deadlocked for more than two years. He was elected at about the age of 80 (Benedict was 78 when he was elected Pope in 2005).
At Celestine’s election, some of the Spiritual Franciscans, who opposed the worldliness of the Church hierarchy, proclaimed that he was the first legitimate Pope in nearly 1,000 years, since Constantine had granted the Church huge territorial possessions in the 300s.
So the Church had a holy leader, and many devout Catholics at that time thought the Church would be reformed by this good man.
https://app.icontact.com/icp/loadima...ed9/image/jpegBut the holy Celestine — who pleaded with the cardinals not to choose him as the Pope — could not manage to rule the powerful cardinals around him.
The cardinals of 700 years ago seem to have chosen Celestine almost humorously, as it were, not seriously, as if to say, “We can’t agree on a serious ‘Prince-Cardinal’ for Pope, so we will choose this holy, quiet, learned monk to be Pope, and watch with a certain amusement as he struggles mightily but in vain to guide the ungovernable bark of Peter.”
After five months, Celestine gave up, and resigned — the only Pope who has ever done so.
He thought he would end his life in peace, but his successor, Boniface VIII, fearing his opponents might use Celestine as a rallying point, ordered him confined, and some allege (probably wrongly, since he was already approaching 90), executed.
All of Celestine’s official acts were annulled by Boniface.
Now, Benedict is scheduled to travel this Sunday, on July 4, to Sulmona, not far from Rome. There, in the crypt of the cathedral, as the last act of his visit, he is scheduled to venerate relics of this same holy Pope, Celestine V. (See bottom for a news report on this upcoming trip.)
So Sunday, the Pope will pray before Celestine’s relics for the second time in 15 months.
I am not suggesting Pope Benedict XVI is thinking of following in the footsteps of the saintly Pope Celestine and resigning.
I am suggesting that the studious Pope Benedict and the studious monk-Pope are “connected” in a mysterious way.
I believe Benedict’s decisions to leave his pallium in Aquila, where Celestine’s tomb is located, and to schedule a prayer before his relics this coming Sunday, are not haphazard.
These decisions are indicators, ways of communicating truths through gestures. They contain a message the Pope cannot deliver any other way...
Central bankers in a war with the vatican? I guess they want to put their guy in? Vatican-based central bank of the world?
Card payments blocked, cash only in Vatican City
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Italy’s central bank has blocked all bank card payments in the Vatican because of a failure to comply with EU safeguards against money laundering, forcing people to pay for services in cash until further notice, Italian media said on Thursday.
By News Wires (text)
It’s “cash only” now for tourists at the Vatican wanting to pay for museum tickets, souvenirs and other services after Italy’s central bank decided to block electronic payments, including credit cards, at the tiny city-state.
Deutsche Bank Italia, which for some 15 years had provided the Vatican with electronic payment services, said Thursday that the Bank of Italy had pulled its authorization after Dec. 31.
The Corriere della Sera newspaper reported that the Italian central bank took the action because the Holy See has not yet fully complied with European Union safeguards against money laundering. That means Italian banks are not authorized to operate within the Vatican, which is in the process of improving its mechanisms to combat laundering.
The Vatican says it is scrambling to solve the problem for thousands of visitors who flock to its very popular Vatican Museums, which include highlights like the Sistine Chapel. The Holy See had no immediate comment on the Bank of Italy’s reported reasons.
Tourists in the long lines Thursday that snaked around Vatican City walls were not happy about the inconvenience.
“It’s certainly a disadvantage,” said Giuseppe Amoruso, an Italian. “Credit cards provide a useful service, which needs to be accessible to everybody, everywhere.”
“A lot of tourists don’t have cash on them, so they have to get euros and don’t know where to get them,” said Fluger William Hunter, an American tourist.
The central bank said a routine inspection found that Deutsche Bank Italia hadn’t sought authorization when it first started providing services at the Vatican. When it finally did, the Bank of Italy turned it down because the Vatican’s banking norms, including measures to combat money laundering, didn’t meet Italy’s more stringent criteria of recent years, a central bank official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because there was no official statement on the case.
The Vatican has been striving to upgrade its measures to detect and discourage money laundering, hiring a Swiss expert just a few months ago. Last summer, the Holy See passed a key European financial transparency test but received failing grades for its financial watchdog agency and its bank, formally called the Institute for Religious Works.
The museums, with their entrance fees and popular souvenir shops, are a big money-maker for the Vatican. Other Vatican attractions, such as tours of the Vatican’s ancient underground spaces, also charge admission.
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Peter Turkson together with bishop Mario Toso elaborated a proposal to reform the international financial system by creating a Global Public Authority and a Global Bank that consider the interest of all developing countries.
Very questionable prophecy.Quote:
Originally Posted by vacuum
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...22_634x815.jpg A sign from God? Lighting strikes the basilica of St.Peter's dome earlier this evening during a storm that struck Rome on the same day Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-carry-on.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/cath...l-pope-is-hereQuote:
Approximately 900 years ago, Pope Innocent II summoned Saint Malachy, a popular archbishop, to Rome to update the Vatican on the status of Malachy's Northern Ireland diocese. Malachy made the arduous journey from Northern Ireland to Italy and gave his full report.
As he was leaving Rome to return to his church he had what he described as a “frenzied vision.” In this vision, Malachy was given the descriptive information of every pope that would ever exist, beginning with Pope Innocent II all the way to the final pope, Pope Petrus Romanus.
Malachy's vision tallied 112 popes, ending with Pope Petrus Romanus, and the current pope, Pope Benedict XVI, is number 111, which means there will only be one more pope.
Whether we choose to believe in the prophecy or not, states Horn, “It's historic in the sense that we have this medieval prophecy and the very next pope will be the last one on the list.”
When host, George Noory, asked Horn the significance of the prophecy and the last pope, Horn explained the prophecy states this final pope will be the pope who leads the church into the great Tribulation.
http://endtimesand2019.webs.com/Quote:
The world did not end on December 21, 2012.
The Mayan Long Count ended that day - because the Maya understood that world-changing events would start in the new year beginning with the winter solstice of 2012; a time of troubles lasting almost 7 years. Their description of the sky for the end of these times - the final day of destruction - matches December 2019, not 2012. Many astronomical clues in the Bible point to December 21, 2019 - EXACTLY seven years after the Mayan date in 2012. The Bible reveals a clear warning - the seven year tribulation ends December 21, 2019. The tribulation must begin more than 6 years but less than 7 years earlier - in 2013.
Civilization in Egypt, Sumeria, and many other first cultures is dated to approximately 3100 B.C.
The Maya believe our current world began in 3114 B.C. Ancient India tells us the Kali Yuga Age began in 3102 B.C. Why the 12-year difference? Did the Mayan Calendar date the world age from the year great troubles and changes began, while in India they dated the new Age from the final world-ending event? Was ancient Mexico focused on the end-of-the-world-AS-THEY-KNEW-IT, while India was focused on the LAST DAY?
The Mayan Calendar's Long Count ended their 5125-year World Age on December 21, 2012.
This date is the shortest day, the winter solstice, the start of a new year in which a horrible, world-changing chain of events will begin. The Christian Bible refers to these changes as the TRIBULATION. The Bible gives many astronomical descriptions of the night sky at the end of days, which match the sky in late December, 2019. Astronomical bodies and their movements and positions near each other act out the traditional steps in an Ancient Jewish Wedding Ceremony from 12/21/2019 to 12/28/2019 when Jesus marries His Bride - US. The Bible's "seven year" tribulation ends when that great wedding in the sky begins on December 21, 2019.
For ancient Israelites to say "seven years" it must last more than six but less than seven full years. That means the tribulation starts very soon in 2013. The Maya believed this point in time would mark the end of the world as we know it and the transition to a new world. They viewed the transitional years from 12/21/2012-12/21/2019 as the first years of the new system of things in the next world, while the Bible describes these transitional years as the last years of the world we know now. After completing my research, I must conclude that December 21, 2012 is the *official* start of the seven year tribulation, with world-changing events starting in early 2013 and Judgment Day at the end of 2019. Watch Jerusalem and Damascus for war, Washington for dictatorship, and New York for special devastation and financial ruin.
kevin barrett:
Was Pope Benedict fired by the Knights of Malta?
Popes don't resign. They get fired. Sometimes they're "fired" by God, who has been known to dismiss them from this mortal coil. On other occasions, Satan – through one of his secret societies infesting the Vatican – slips the Pontiff one of those patented papal poisons. ... Read More
New Catholic Book Opposes Zionist Revolution
^ published last week b4 pope's announcement..
also see:
Thread: Bishop's anti-Talmud remarks stir controversy - LOL
2nd half of 3rd hour on rense last night:
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Hour 3 - Dr. Henry L. Niman, PhD - Serious Influenza Developments - John Hogue - Occult Significance Of The Pope's Resignation
Why would a Jesus haten' devil, praise the Pope and give him credit for advancing inter-religious links the world over between Judaism, Christianity and Islam, when the Jesus haters clearly hate Christianity and Islam?
Is there a plan to get a Jew/Zionist Pope in there?
JERUSALEM | Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:53am GMT
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israeli chief rabbi Yona Metzger on Monday praised Pope Benedict's inter-religious outreach and said relations between Israel and the Vatican had never been better.
"During his period (as pope) there were the best relations ever between the church and the chief rabbinate and we hope that this trend will continue," a spokesman quoted Metzger as saying after the pope announced he would resign. "I think he deserves a lot of credit for advancing inter-religious links the world over between Judaism, Christianity and Islam."
Metzger wished the pope "good health and long days", the spokesman said.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/0...91A0CV20130211
book 2 to 1 next pope is sub saharan African. You know the West's goose is cooked when it looks to sub Sahara Africa for leadership.
Most of our new priests come from Africa, Asia, and some from Latin America.Quote:
Originally Posted by VirgilCain
Maybe he is relieved that Benedict is out and hoping for a more liberal Pope? Benedict continued John Paul's "inter-religious dialogue" but spoke of the need to do so in the spirit of truth (i.e., not pandering).Quote:
Originally Posted by EE_
Pope, Speaks to Other Religions
i hope the new one is even more to the right. the last few years have been refreshing.
@ makow:
Money Scandal Behind Papal Coup d'Etat
February 11, 2013
http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/Pope-Bertone.jpg
Left, The Ex Pope and the New Pope? Joseph Ratzinger (l) and the palace coup-master, Cardinal Bertone
To understand the Pope's resignation,
Kevin Annett says, "Follow the money."
"What sounded the death knell on Pope Benedict was his personal involvement in the bribery and money-laundering practices of the Vatican Bank."
by Kevin Annett
(henrymakow.com)
Theories are abounding now that the first pope in seven centuries is resigning his office. But as usual, finding the truth behind the world's oldest corporation is simply to follow the money: and specifically, Vatican Bank money.
First of all, let's put to rest, the fallacy that "looming scandals" about child rape and coverup are behind Joseph Ratzinger's resignation. That's just the cover story.
Nobody in the church hierarchy is losing sleep over their standing, canon-law endorsed policy of concealing and protecting child rapists in their ranks. Even the International Criminal Court application about such crimes has been stymied by catholic-run legislators and jurists.
What sounded the death knell on Pope Benedict was his personal involvement in the bribery and money-laundering practices of the Vatican Bank, comically known as The Institute of Religious Works (IOR). That dirty connection gave the anti-Ratzinger faction in the College of Cardinals the needed leverage to dump the obstinate German from the papal throne.
We had a whiff of that dump-Rat Boy agenda last year, when "Vatileaks" broke a ludicrous story of how Ratzinger's loyal butler Paolo Gabriele disclosed the pope's dirty secrets to the Italian media.
In fact, the damning documents detailing Ratzinger's secret rewarding of Vatican contracts to his friends and family members originated in the Vatican Secretary of State's office, which the fall-guy butler could not have had access to.
The Secretary of State and the real power behind the papacy is Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, an old insider who also engineered the sacking of Gotti Tedeschi, head of the Vatican Bank, last May.
Tedeschi had embraced the call of the European Parliament for "greater transparency" by the Vatican Bank /IOR, and was about to disclose to Brussels how his bosses had been laundering money for the mob for decades. The last Pope who had tried such a disclosure, John Paul 1, died from poisoning in September, 1978 after less than a month in office.
But even with Tedeschi silenced, the IOR house of cards kept tumbling, as the European Parliament seized from it 300 million Euros fraudulently acquired. Even the American Securities and Exchange Commission declared the IOR's assets and practices "insecure". A major Vatican housecleaning was required; or at least, the appearance of one.
It was the pivotal Cardinal Bertone who leaked the pope's diary and other incriminating papers to a catholic-friendly journalist in Rome last year (the same month that Tedeschi was sacked,) to prepare the world for Ratzinger's removal. For it is Bertone who is now reaping the benefits of the papal housecleaning. He is not only a primary contender for the pope's position but a key player in the IOR.
During my second speaking tour in Rome, in the spring of 2010, I met with several senior Italian senators and officials of the parliamentary Radical Party. They all said the same thing about why Joseph Ratzinger had been made pope, and what awaited him. To quote one of these politicians,
"Nobody becomes pope without a sordid past, because only with such liabilities can he be controlled by the Curia. It's the same in any big company. Well, Ratzinger made many indiscretions as a Cardinal and made many enemies. His signing letters ordering criminal concealment was just one sin. He was to be the scapegoat for all of the trash that the church knew would surface"
SCAPEGOAT
So now, the papal scapegoat is gone, pensioned off to wherever ex-popes end up; and the time for the big face-saving lie has arrived.
Putting lipstick on a decaying facade like the Church of Rome reminds me of Shirley MacLaine trying to look forty at the age of ninety. And yet appearances are everything in show business as well as in religion.
Tarcisio Bertone represents the old Italian crowd of the Curia, who are part of the Mob-government-papal clique that run the country and the Roman Catholic church. In the words of one of the Roman Senators I spoke with,
"You must understand that in my country, the Mafia and the government and the Vatican are all the same people, and they really have only one concern: protecting their assets."
Bertone, or whoever from the ranks of his victorious faction does assume the papal tiria, cannot be expected to do much but maintain the assets and security of the church, and that means continuing the policies of silence and dissimulation that keeps the cash flowing. But their position is more difficult now in the wake of the enormous rifts developing within the wider church, where Cardinals are facing criminal prosecution for shielding child rapists, and talk of disaffiliating from Rome is widespread among Irish, American and German Bishops.
"We have all the grounds for a second Reformation now. That's how serious is the crisis. The church will either rid itself of itself or face collapse" said an Italian media commentator recently.
It was easy to despise Joseph Ratzinger: the Hitler Youth-raised, reactionary bigot who sacked liberal and independent thinkers in his church as the Cardinal-head of the Vatican Inquisition, and who told American Bishops that purgatory awaited any of them who did not cover up priestly child rape. Even among fellow Cardinals, he was known as "Joe the Rat".
But Ratzinger was a made to order object-of-hatred, and put there to play out the oldest game in politics: the venting of popular rage on a disposable figurehead so that the institution itself could proceed unscathed.
I doubt that it's coincidental that Ratzinger was forced out of office so quickly barely ten days after our Common Law court published online hard evidence of the Pope's involvement in crimes against humanity. Any new Pope will face the same charges, of colluding in a massive criminal conspiracy.
But the real issue is not who or what will replace Joseph Ratzinger, but how to displace the Vatican itself as a criminal power unto itself. And that struggle is just commencing.
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Related-
Victims Groups Implicate Ratzinger in Sex Abuse Cover Up
http://m.guardiannews.com/world/2013...se-say-victims
Joseph Farrell on Ratzinger Resignation
I wrote to Leo Zagami in Rome, asking if Annett's accusations have merit. His reply:
Yes and there is much more to it I had previously published in my latest books and I am coming out in Italy next month in March 2013 with two new books one called The Invisible Masters of the NWO (I Maestri Invisibili del NWO) published by TERRE SOMMERSE that brings some new answers to the Ratzinger story as I had already wrote about the link with the murder plot and his possible resignation one year ago and all the strange developments connected to it that took place in 2012 including the scandal of the MPS Bank (Monte dei Paschi di Siena) tied to the IOR and international Freemasonry and the visit in March 2013 of Queen Elisabeth II in Rome , this book is co-written with journalist Enrica Perucchietti. Leo Zagami is as you know considered even in Italy on the biggest experts on Vatican secrets and another book will came out by two of the most respected Vaticanist Feruccio Pinotti e Giacomo Galeazzi Vaticano massone. Un patto segreto e una finta inimicizia
that will include a chapter on Vatican Freemasonry and the latest events by myself Leo Zagami.
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And I have been now been offered to write also a instant book with my journalist colleague Enrica Perucchietti on the particularity of the month of March as all Catholics will become sedevacantist for once.
Second Comment from Richard on the Prophesy of the Popes:
Cardinal Bertone is the Secretary of State of the Roman Curia, the structure that actually runs the Roman Church. As with the President of the United States, the Papal role is largely figurative. Theoretically he heads the Curia, but the real boss is Secretary of State.
Now, here's something that occurred to me tonight from the information that's come out.
The Prophecy of the Popes, attributed to Saint Malachy, is a list of 112 short phrases in Latin. They purport to describe each of the Roman Catholic popes (along with a few anti-popes), beginning with Pope Celestine II (elected in 1143) and concluding with current pope Benedict XVI's successor.
http://henrymakow.com/upload_images/Bertone.jpg(Left, Bertone giving an expert Masonic grip to a brother in Australia in 2007.)
The Prophecy of the Popes calls this last Pope "Peter the Roman". Nobody can resist a good prophecy. There's been buzz today on Catholic channels about Bertone's full name being Cardinal Tarcisio PIETRO Bertone of Romano, Turin, Italy.
You see the prophecy says this last Pope will pontificate over the destruction of Rome. A lot of bets were placed last year that Benedict XVI would be gone in 2012 so the last Pope could be seated before December 21st. (Only problem was that Catholics never used the Mayan long count Calendar. - a little humor there..)
Rumors that Bertone's election is a done deal because of his power with the Curia and the Italian faction may be overstated. Of 120 cardinal electors, only 28 are Italians, and nearly half are Hispanic, African and various Asian and others.
http://henrymakow.com/2013/02/vatica...ans-behin.html
If this is true..................WTF
Looks like he wont be going far if this is the case....
Historic, Breaking News: Wednesday, February 12/13, 2013 Pope Benedict resigned to avoid arrest, seizure of church wealth by Easter -
Diplomatic Note was issued to Vatican just prior to his resignation
New Pope and Catholic clergy face indictment and arrest as “Easter Reclamation” plan continues
A Global Media Release and Statement from The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State (ITCCS)
Brussels:
The historically unprecedented resignation of Joseph Ratzinger as Pope this week was compelled by an upcoming action by a European government to issue an arrest warrant against Ratzinger and a public lien against Vatican property and assets by Easter.
The ITCCS Central Office in Brussels is compelled by Pope Benedict’s sudden abdication to disclose the following details:
1. On Friday, February 1, 2013, on the basis of evidence supplied by our affiliated Common Law Court of Justice (itccs.org), our Office concluded an agreement with representatives of a European nation and its courts to secure an arrest warrant against Joseph Ratzinger, aka Pope Benedict, for crimes against humanity and ordering a criminal conspiracy.
2. This arrest warrant was to be delivered to the office of the “Holy See” in Rome on Friday, February 15, 2013. It allowed the nation in question to detain Ratzinger as a suspect in a crime if he entered its sovereign territory.
3. A diplomatic note was issued by the said nation’s government to the Vatican’s Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, on Monday, February 4, 2013, informing Bertone of the impending arrest warrant and inviting his office to comply. No reply to this note was received from Cardinal Bertone or his office; but six days later, Pope Benedict resigned.
4. The agreement between our Tribunal and the said nation included a second provision to issue a commercial lien through that nation’s courts against the property and wealth of the Roman Catholic churchcommencing on Easter Sunday, March 31, 2013. This lien was to be accompanied by a public and global “Easter Reclamation Campaign” whereby Catholic church property was to be occupied and claimed by citizens as public assets forfeited under international law and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.
5. It is the decision of our Tribunal and the said nation’s government to proceed with the arrest of Joseph Ratzinger upon his vacating the office of the Roman Pontiff on a charge of crimes against humanity and criminal conspiracy.
6. It is our further decision to proceed as well with the indictment and arrest of Joseph Ratzinger’s successor as Pope on the same charges; and to enforce the commercial lien and “Easter Reclamation Campaign” against the Roman Catholic church, as planned.
In closing, our Tribunal acknowledges that Pope Benedict’s complicity in criminal activities of the Vatican Bank (IOR) was compelling his eventual dismissal by the highest officials of the Vatican. But according to our sources, Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone forced Joseph Ratzinger’s resignation immediately, and in direct response to the diplomatic note concerning the arrest warrant that was issued to him by the said nation’s government on February 4, 2013.
We call upon all citizens and governments to assist our efforts to legally and directly disestablish the Vatican, Inc. and arrest its chief officers and clergy who are complicit in crimes against humanity and the ongoing criminal conspiracy to aid and protect child torture and trafficking.
Further bulletins on the events of the Easter Reclamation Campaign will be issued by our Office this week.
Issued 13 February, 2013
12:00 am GMT
by the Brussels Central Office,
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Pope Benedict resigned to avoid arrest, seizure of church wealth by Easter
Posted on February 13, 2013 by itccs
Diplomatic Note was issued to Vatican just prior to his resignation
New Pope and Catholic clergy face indictment and arrest as "Easter Reclamation" plan continues
A Global Media Release and Statement from The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State
Brussels:
The historically unprecedented resignation of Joseph Ratzinger as Pope this week was compelled by an upcoming action by a European government to issue an arrest warrant against Ratzinger and a public lien against Vatican property and assets by Easter.
The ITCCS Central Office in Brussels is compelled by Pope Benedict's sudden abdication to disclose the following details:
1. On Friday, February 1, 2013, on the basis of evidence supplied by our affiliated Common Law Court of Justice (itccs.org), our Office concluded an agreement with representatives of a European nation and its courts to secure an arrest warrant against Joseph Ratzinger, aka Pope Benedict, for crimes against humanity and ordering a criminal conspiracy.
2. This arrest warrant was to be delivered to the office of the "Holy See" in Rome on Friday, February 15, 2013. It allowed the nation in question to detain Ratzinger as a suspect in a crime if he entered its sovereign territory.
3. A diplomatic note was issued by the said nation's government to the Vatican's Secretary of State, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, on Monday, February 4, 2013, informing Bertone of the impending arrest warrant and inviting his office to comply. No reply to this note was received from Cardinal Bertone or his office; but six days later, Pope Benedict resigned.
4. The agreement between our Tribunal and the said nation included a second provision to issue a commercial lien through that nation's courts against the property and wealth of the Roman Catholic church commencing on Easter Sunday, March 31, 2013. This lien was to be accompanied by a public and global "Easter Reclamation Campaign" whereby Catholic church property was to be occupied and claimed by citizens as public assets forfeited under international law and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.
5. It is the decision of our Tribunal and the said nation's government to proceed with the arrest of Joseph Ratzinger upon his vacating the office of the Roman Pontiff on a charge of crimes against humanity and criminal conspiracy.
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6. It is our further decision to proceed as well with the indictment and arrest of Joseph Ratzinger's successor as Pope on the same charges; and to enforce the commercial lien and "Easter Reclamation Campaign" against the Roman Catholic church, as planned.
In closing, our Tribunal acknowledges that Pope Benedict's complicity in criminal activities of the Vatican Bank (IOR) was compelling his eventual dismissal by the highest officials of the Vatican. But according to our sources, Secretary of State Tarcisio Bertone forced Joseph Ratzinger's resignation immediately, and in direct response to the diplomatic note concerning the arrest warrant that was issued to him by the said nation's government on February 4, 2013.
We call upon all citizens and governments to assist our efforts to legally and directly disestablish the Vatican, Inc. and arrest its chief officers and clergy who are complicit in crimes against humanity and the ongoing criminal conspiracy to aid and protect child torture and trafficking.
Further bulletins on the events of the Easter Reclamation Campaign will be issued by our Office this week.
Issued 13 February, 2013
12:00 am GMT
by the Brussels Central Offic
I'm starting to put the picture together and I think what we're seeing is really huge.
The pope and the catholic church represent christ/st peter's legacy. Opposing them, you've got the talimudic jews who represent the pharisees which killed christ.
We saw several things just go down:
1) The central bank of Italy declined all electronic payments from the vatican, due to "failure to comply with EU safeguards against money laundering".
2) The secretary of the vatican (vatican bank head) released incriminating evidence to the authorities, triggering an investigation.
3) Of the new pope candidate waiting in the wings, "In October 2011 Cardinal Peter Turkson called for the establishment of a “global public authority” and a “central world bank” to rule over financial institutions"
What we're whitnessing is the talimudic zionist jews, after 2000 years, finally consuming the catholic church.
To Serpo: Sorcha Faal? The story has that feeling to it...
I dunno, earlier there was an article on how the Italian central bank cut off credit cards n Vatican city due to laundering safeguards failed to be met.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuro
Maybe where the Pope got the investment account to retire on?
does dosnt it.........Quote:
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but there is this...http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...se-say-victims
Whatever the reason this goes deep. I read that who ever is his successor will be held accountable and arrested.
For crimes against children.Quote:
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pope being charged with crimes against humanity
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/reli...-humanity.html
They are going to get the book thrown at them..............
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The incredible suffering this organization has inflicted on countless people around the world is beyond the pale.For a spiritual organization to do this is completely outrages and we have seen over and over that protecting the organization comes first,like most power structures.
also...
http://rense.com/general95/vatican.html
Key word, "International."Quote:
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Yes who the hell has given the globalists any right to judge anyone? Certainly the case against child abuse in catholic church is a worthy one, but I can't see any reason why it can't be handled by legislation in the countries where it occurred? Most countries have existing legislation making pedophilia a criminal offence, with supposedly no perpetrator above the law. Sure it may be a stretch to convict Ratzinger as an accomplish, in most countries, but if he is guilty, shouldn't he get eternity in Inferno anyway quite soon? I see nothing positive in creating a globalist court for his punishment. That will be more of a devil than Ratzinger or anyone else...Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa