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Olmstein
Mine is Scottish, English, and Dutch, Protestant.
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I was thinking the name was Amish, but who knows these days.
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Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story
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Norweger
And what are the Muslims up to besides getting blamed for 911 and having their home countries invaded?
They've been pretty busy raping and murdering white women in Europe from what I've been reading.
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@PatColo-
Thanks for the update on Deanna's latest attacks on Wolfgang. It's actually quite shocking to hear that she is now basically accusing him of lying about his background and the harassment from law enforcement. I just did a quick google search and found this:
http://childrenssafetyinstitute.com/our-story/
It looks like Wolfgang is somehow affiliated with the Children's Safety Institute, and on their website, this is what they say about his background:
Wolfgang is a nationally recognized school safety and security professional who has done extensive work in researching and developing the “Standards for Safe Schools”. He is an expert witness in the field of school safety and security. He has testified before a Congressional Commission studying school safety and security. Wolfgang was the former Executive Director of the National Institute for School and Workplace Safety. Wolfgang was also appointed by the Florida Governor to serve on the State of Florida Safe Schools Commission.
Wolfgang is also the author of a book for educators and school bus drivers on aggressive behavior management and the use of reasonable force, as well as numerous magazine articles. His article on “Breaking the Code of Silence” was published in the March 2000 edition of the American School Board Journal. He has been a featured guest on many national news programs including Dateline NBC, Good Morning America, and MSNBC.
Wolfgang was the Director of Safety and Security for a large public school system in Florida and brings to the company a national reputation in school safety, education and law enforcement. He has experience with U.S. Customs and as a Florida State Trooper. After leaving law enforcement, he went into education as a teacher, administrative leader, and finally Director of Safety and Security. His 35 years of work experience is a major asset to any involvement with safety and security.
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THX Amanda, good find! :) I just posted another comment there responding to an attack on me by a Deanna fanboy (see: @ 9:59 AM)-- maybe U could post the above bit to that comment thread instead of me? It's your find after all! :)
BTW, I've been posting @ Tracy's blog too, pointing to the Mami's comment thread, and to here,
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/02/22...#comment-62056
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/02/19...#comment-62156
I was glad he published that 2nd one. The first one published instantly upon my submitting, but the 2nd went into an "awaiting moderation" queue; and my best guess is the 2nd one contains the word 'Jew' which triggered some sort of automatic extra-scrutiny? lol.
http://www.google.com/explanation
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I just did a quick search for Wolfgang's article “Breaking the Code of Silence,” which was published in the March 2000 edition of the American School Board Journal. The article doesn't really have a link I can post, but anyone can find it by doing a quick search. Here's just a bit of it:
Breaking the Code of Silence
A school security expert says student silence is our worst enemy
BY WOLFGANG W. HALBIG
Could have ... should have ... would have. These oft-used laments tragically describe the sentiments of teenagers in Pearl, Miss.; Paducah, Ky.; Jonesboro, Ark.; and Littleton, Colo. In all these places, young people heard the murderous intentions of fellow students but chose not to tell adults. The consequences of their silence were immeasurable.
Our schools and communities must do everything they can to break this adolescent code of silence. We need to make it easier, and more acceptable, for students to report threats they've heard other kids make. Had students in Mississippi, Kentucky, Arkansas, and Colorado acted on the information they had, lives might well have been saved.
That a code of silence exists should come as no surprise to parents, school administrators, school board members, legislators, or law enforcement officials. I have been an assistant principal, a teacher and coach, a state police officer, and a director of school district security. In all these roles, I saw how and why a code of silence is so deeply ingrained in youth culture. Historically, students have been loath to "tattle," "rat," or "narc" on their peers -- especially in secondary grades when social acceptance often overrides the urge to do the right thing. Added to that reluctance is a fear of violent retribution for turning someone in that is probably more real today than ever before.
Anyone who does not see the potential for violent trouble in our schools is living in a fantasyland. Demographic changes in the nation's youth population are going to put a much heavier burden on educators to keep their schools safe. By 2005, there will be 23 percent more teenagers in the violence-prone group (14 to 17 year old males) than there are now.
Charles W. Colson, a Nixon administration attorney who did prison time for his role in the Watergate scandal, is now a lay minister who counsels convicted criminals. In a 1997 article in the Wall Street Journal, Colson describes the new teenage criminal as "cold, remorseless, conscienceless." Law enforcement officials are quick to concur with Colson's depiction, often referencing the callousness of violent acts committed by teenagers who appear desensitized to the value of life itself.
In the Journal article, Colson warns that the demographic tide will bring with it a new criminal class: "The recent dramatic drop in the crime rate has politicians making political hay. They'd better be quick about it. We are merely enjoying a brief lull -- due mainly to the aging of the baby boomers -- before the arrival of the mother of all crime waves."
Enlisting the students
School administrators and board members must determine what they can do to provide the good kids -- the millions of young people who regularly exhibit appropriate and responsible behavior in school -- with effective means to protect themselves from indiscriminate acts of violence.
Many school districts, in response to an escalating number of threats made by students against peers and teachers, have started character education programs, emphasizing values such as responsibility, courage, and caring. If these programs do not also emphasize the importance of breaking the code of silence, however, they are missing a golden opportunity to make our schools safer.
The reality is that you can put as many metal detectors in your schools as you want, but until you have most students working on your behalf, you have a false sense of security. Consider this: The U.S. Department of Education reported that more than 6,000 handguns were confiscated from students on school grounds during the 1996-97 school year and in 92 percent of the cases, the guns were taken because students alerted school officials.
Reproduced with permission from the March 2000 issue of American School Board Journal. Copyright © 2000, National School Boards Association. American School Board Journal is an editorially independent publication of the National School Boards Association. Opinions expressed by this magazine or any of its authors do not necessarily reflect positions of the National School Boards Association. This article may be printed out and photocopied for individual or educational use, provided this copyright notice appears on each copy. This article may not be otherwise transmitted or reproduced in print or electronic form without the consent of the Publisher. For more information, call (703) 838-6739.
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@PatColo- FYI- I've actually sworn off visiting grizzom (I just can no longer tolerate having to deal with those TUT cult followers, and Deanna "fanboys" as you call them, attacking the rest of us on SH), but since you are doing such a great job over there, I decided to join in and just posted my findings.
Also, if the Deanna "fanboy" you are referring to is "George Jones," fwiw, I have the feeling that character is actually "Rockclimber," who used to be an admin over there. After leaving the admin post and as this whole SH debate stuff got going, he started posting in the comments under two handles, "Expose supremacism" and "consti2tionalist," and was subsequently banned (I think for personal attacks or something along those lines). Then this newly created "George Jones" handle arrived on the scene, and basically started posting comments along those same lines. Also, as much as he seems like a Deanna "fanboy," he's also a TUT cult follower. Back when SH first occurred, he stayed relatively neutral b/c he admitted that he hadn't looked into anything. But after MG's inflammatory post, accusing JF and JF of not believing in MCP's "massive heart attack" this Rockclimber guy clearly lost it and left a nasty comment over there directed at those of us who see SH has a HOAX. Anyway, just wanted to give you some background and to let you know that sometimes over there on the SH threads we are dealing with the same individual under multiple handles.
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Amanda
Consider this: The U.S. Department of Education reported that more than 6,000 handguns were confiscated from students on school grounds during the 1996-97 school year and in 92 percent of the cases, the guns were taken because students alerted school officials.
Wow. MSM never mentions this. Probably because it ain't White kids doing it.
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Tumbleweed
They've been pretty busy raping and murdering white women in Europe from what I've been reading.
Reading jewish blogs like gatesofvienna i take it.
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Norweger
Reading jewish blogs like gatesofvienna i take it.
Here's one of many articles I've read lately.
http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/...onths-of-2013/
Muslims raped over 300 Swedish children and 700 women in first 7 months of 2013
Posted on October 13, 2013 by ADMIN158 Comments
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http://www.gais.se/Fotboll/gais.nsf/...Malmstrom1.jpg
Cecilia Malmström, the unkept ragged European Commissioner for Home Affairs, do not care about the rapidly rising rape crimes against children in her own country. Malmström is the one who grants Muslim immigrants entry into Europe. She has promised more Muslim terrorists and misogynists cloaked as asylum seekers to be admitted into Europe. That will give their hatred of all things non-Islamic even more freedom so they can commit more crimes, rapes and murders in her already saturated home country. Malmström is eager to let women and children be raped and abused in Sweden so she can appear politically correct and pretend to be a humanitarian. Forget about the shocking fact that Sweden today house the second largest volume of rape crimes in the world after Nigeria, all due to Muslim immigrants.
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In the first seven months of 2013, over 1,000 Swedish women reported being raped by Muslim immigrants in the capital city of Stockholm. Over 300 of those were under the age of 15. The number of rapes is up 16% so far this year compared to 2012 numbers. A large proportion of the increase include rape of young [pre-teen] girls. [Bing translated]
The official radio report quoted from BRÅ (The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention) refuses to mention the M-word in the socialist-suffocated Sweden, a country held hostage by the extreme left. But when you contact senior police and government sources they confirm (anonymous in fear of losing their jobs) that these numbers represent Muslims. And a majority of these rapes and sexual assaults are caused by Malmström’s new arrivals, the asylum seekers.
And these numbers are only the tip of the ice berg. According to the authorities, Sweden’s real rape statistics are 400-900% higher than official numbers. The BRÅ website states:
“As few as 10-20 percent of all sexual offences are reported to the police. The Swedish Crime Survey (Nationella trygghetsundersökningen, NTU) provides a better picture of the extent of criminality, with data on both victims as well as perpetrators — which is lacking in the criminal statistics. Of those who are suspected for sexual offences, the majority are men and only about two percent are women. A majority of the victims are women. In a third of reported rapes, the victim is younger than 15.”
In spite of these horrid numbers and Sweden’s rapid increase in rape statistics, EU Commissions nutter and Swede Cecilia Malmström wants even more Muslims to arrive to her country, and to have access to the rest of Europe
Cecilia Malmström is the European Commissioner for Home Affairs. She used to be a politician for the Liberal Party in Sweden, but moved on to the EU level when she was elected to the European Parliament in 1999, and was later elevated further to serve on the European Commission.
Part of Ms. Malmström’s job is to oversee immigration policy for the European Union. Like most functionaries in the upper reaches of the EU bureaucracy, she favors the cultural enrichment of Europe through mass Third-World immigration. She and other unelected Eurocrats in Brussels decide how much and what kind of immigration is best for the EU, and then impose their diktats on the member states.
Read Geert Wilder’s letter to this truly insane libtard uber-socialist Cecilia Malmström who clearly doesn’t care at all of the safety of women and children in her own country. It’s free game for Muslim men to assault women in Sweden and punishments are lenient. In fact, instead of punishing them as they should, Malmström brings in more rapists in the thousands each year.
Before venturing to the libtard headquarters of Brussels Cecilia Malmström was a left-wing liberal in Sweden. Incidentally the left-wingers have always been the terrorists of Europe before Islam began terrorising everyone. Left-wingers were regularly investigated by security services pre 1990 for violence and inciting violence and stirring up problems that undermined peace and order for others. No wonder they fit so well with Muslims.
http://themuslimissue.files.wordpres...pg?w=528&h=393
Sexual assault: A previous article showed a chart on sexual crimes from The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (BRÅ), a government body for crime statistics. Watch the increase of rapes in Sweden after the country became more lenient on ME immigrants, asylum seekers and third world (mainly Muslim) immigrants. The overwhelming chunk of immigrants to Sweden are Muslims who also use about 80% of the entire welfare budget in region to region. The fact that numbers are increasing year after year without control shows that Sweden does not care about its crime victims and does not punish perpetrators sufficiently.
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It's the same rubbish really.
Kafir and proud t-shirts und so weiter. Totally jewish. Refrences to 911 and how it was done by scary muslims etc.
Yes, there are a lot of rapes in Scandinavia, but who let these people in? And why are the muslims solely to blame for the rapes? What about other immigrants? Are they without guilt?
Blogs like that which pull claims out their rear end exist solely because its beneficial for the survival of the jewish state.
The root cause: International Jewry and the protocols of the learned elders of zion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ
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Norweger
Yes, there are a lot of rapes in Scandinavia, but who let these people in?
Tumbleweed correctly reported that the rapists are Muslims and you should, at least, concede him that important point.
We already know that jews created the open-border immigration nightmare to destroy Whitey. It's working.
:rolleyes:
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I'm about to listen, !!! :D See Mami's commenters @ link,
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PatColo
I've listened to this ^ now, and it was quite a shocking indictment, a tragic discrediting, a complete embarrassment, for… Spingola! OMG! :o
She spends ~1/2 the show, and the first ~1/3 exclusively, seeking to ad-hom/discredit Halbig based on his resume/bonafides. Nothing SHoax-anamoly related was raised until after that first ~25 mins... and this travesty of an 'interview' was directed by a self-posturing 'SH truth seeker' (Spingola)!
In this tedious ad-hom attempt process, Spingola successfully REVEALED that Halbig's trust set up for donations for eventually bringing to trial some of the SHoax principals, gives a mailing address which includes a 'Suite #', when in reality... it's a rented mailbox, GASP! :o So Halbig's trust is promoted mostly on the web, and he doesn't waste $$ on a needless office space (Halbig did manage to say this); however Spingola sought to score points by getting Halbig to 'admit' that his trust's mailing address says "suite #" instead of "box #" -- weak sauce, Deanna! :(
Spingola also 'established' that Halbig, while being Polish-Catholic (not joosh!), is a holohoax believer and a supporter of israel. While this ad-hom surely resonated with the likes of her regular audience and GSUS members; in reality, it just shows Halbig to be joozmedia-brainwashed like most Americans... a blue piller, a sheeple... at least as far as matters WW2 & zionism are concerned. It shows him to be successfully deceived; but it doesn't impeach his honesty or show him to be a deceiver. Another waste of precious, finite show-time which could & should have been spent focused on SHoax anomalies, spent instead on unrelated ad-homs. :(
Spingola shamefully tells a whopper, in-listeners'-faces' LIE at 8:20, where she claims NOT to be seeking to 'discredit' Halbig... which is exactly what she conspicuously sought to do throughout the show! Insult your listeners' intelligence much, Deanna? :(
Spingola's interruptions as Halbig was trying to answer questions or raise issues, was off the charts throughout. This was epitomized at 48:30, where Halbig began to try to respond to her long rant immediately prior; and she interrupts him to say, "We are going to a break" (48:40), then she resumes talking, repeating things she already said, until 49:10 when the break-music actually began and she finally quieted for the break. :(
Another telling moment began at 1:06:30, when Spingola interrupted Halbig for the XXXth time in the show, and began to give her spiel again. Halbig could be heard sighing an exasperated "oh my God" under his breath. Spingola stopped her spiel and, in a classic joowey 'Flip the Script and Project' maneuver, she scolded Halbig, exclaiming, "Don't, don't, don't treat me like that! Don't ridicule me! I'm not going to put up with that!"; then she resumed her spiel. This scolding was in the wake of this entire preceding show where she interrupted and was disrespectful to Halbig, trying to play "GOTCHA!" over irrelevant matters, and never scoring any relevant hits. Spingola's self-righteous play there, and her incessant interruptions throughout, reminded me of when I was a boy and I'd impatiently interrupt my father. He'd repeat sharply over my voice, "Excuse me for speaking while you're interrupting!" LOL :cool:
At the end of this travesty of an "interview", Spingola apologized, for.... not taking any of the callers who were queued up. :rolleyes: Probably a good decision, as I don't expect any callers would have been pleased with her 'performance' with Halbig... and would have told her so.
And as for her 'response' to the 5 or so of Halbig's SHoax-anamoly questions which there was any time left over from her fruitless ad-hom'ing efforts to address; Spingola's "proofs" seemingly all lied in... the official SHoax reports! 'Did you read the reports?! Did you read ch 6 subsection 352?!? All you have to do is read the reports!!' Similar to what I said in the OP, and in reply 18, as it is with 911, the perps have provided all the "evidence" she cites! 911 Whitewash Commish Report, anyone?
Is Deanna going to also change her current holohoax-truth views, in light of the findings & testimonies of the Nuremberg Show Trials?
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Deanna's commented @ Mami's (see: March 6, 2014 at 7:42 AM):
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Deanna said...Thanks Colin for sharing your views on SH. I anticipated such a response from some people. Admittedly, I adopted a different style in my interview with Halbig. Absolutely no one who has interviewed him has challenged any of his statements or claims. I did not plan on letting him monopolize the conversation and repeat everything that he had already said in previous shows. He knew what he was getting into when he accepted my invitation. He said that he hoped that I would not beat him up when I extended the invitation by phone. So he knew exactly what he was getting into. He apparently had listened to and had reviewed my previous programs on SH. He knew my views and I imagine that he anticipated receiving massive support for his views after my program. In as much as he had made many claims on other programs, I had an obligation and a right to address those things. I asked him some very direct questions, many of which he avoided answering or else he changed the subject.
March 6, 2014 at 7:42 AM
I subsequently commented,
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Pat Colo said...Deanna, re your remark:
" I asked him some very direct questions, many of which he avoided answering or else he changed the subject. "
could you please provide some examples of the "many" instances in this show, where in response to a direct question, Wolf "avoided answering or else he changed the subject", ideally with minute-marks? This so I can re-listen to the exchange, and see whether or not I agree?
Coz based on the
show I heard, it sounds like this claim may be another case of...
http://tinyurl.com/opf5sjo
March 6, 2014 at 12:38 PM
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Deanna seems to have gone AWOL from the Mami's discussion, leaving my @12:38 PM question above unanswered. She's apparently content just to toss her vacuous & conspicuously false,
"I asked him some very direct questions, many of which he avoided answering or else he changed the subject"
claim out there, and just walk away from answering for it, further denigrating her guest Wolfgang & her listeners alike, as though her Mar 4 performance wasn't disgraceful enough already. SHAME ON HER! :(
these from yesterday, the first from her is just schitzoid, but I tried to respond,
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Deanna said...
I and another person associated with the AFP, where MCP worked for 33 years, were going to Newtown to conduct an investigation. Officials in Newtown would probably not even talk with us now, given what has transpired in the last month. It might be a deliberate operation. It would seem that Halbig is now the victim after my interview with him. Perhaps that is the reason he accepted my invitation to be on the program. He knew I would ask hard questions. If the Lake County Sheriff's Office and previously the two homicide detectives really meant to silence Halbig, he would probably be in jail right now. When the local officials wanted to silence Werner Bock, they did not warn him three times, they locked him up as they have hundreds of others. Halbig is effectively playing the victim card which is winning him support for his theories. In the beginning of my program, he accused me of trying to discredit him and I said that people tend to discredit themselves. Now, it seems that the whole focus surrounding Sandy Hook is on poor Wolfgang Halbig and not on the 26 individuals now moldering in their graves and the parents who may never recover from the grief of losing their children. Certainly those who claim that no children died have a questionable agenda. The focus is now off of the pharmaceutical industry and their objectives to have every human being on the planet on some kind of anti-psychotic drug. General practitioners have prescribed anti-psychotic drugs to 280,000 infants under the age of 12 months. Their parents are obviously very unwise and/or brainwashed. I think we need to evaluate the big picture and recognize the real or potential victims.
March 6, 2014 at 1:04 PM
my response,
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Pat Colo said...
Deanna, re your March 6, 2014 at 1:04 PM comment above:
1. your
'possibly spoiled Newton investigation trip with me & (unidentified) AFP person' thing is ridiculous & brazenly divisive. Your point?
2. Re:
"It would seem that Halbig is now the victim after my interview with him"; you were also suggesting on Jan 23, 9 days *before* this interview, that Halbig was seeking to garner 'victimhood' status, and further, that he's joosh. Ref: your February 23, 2014 at 6:19 PM comment at:
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blo...33661382763428
3. UNlike Werner Bock, Halbig is a former cop & customs inspector, and thus in that 'law enforcement fraternity' for life. Also UNlike Bock, Halbig doesn't have a huge piece of land which the state covets.
4. Re
"...he accused me of trying to discredit him..."; that's because you plainly *WERE* trying to discredit him, same as in item 2 above; and your denial of this FACT @ 8:20 in the show, insulted your listeners' and guest's intelligence alike.
5. Certainly those who claim to believe zion.gov's official SHoax story,
"...have a questionable agenda." And before you DENY, again, supporting .gov's story; I'll remind you again of your statement of 'beliefs' recited in your Jan 15 show, transcribed in post #1 here:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...ndy-Hook-Story
6. Big-Pharma's demonic psych drugs agenda is important in general, and you actually have some common ground with Sofia here, as she speculated around a year ago that there may be a "mandatory mental health screening" agenda in play wrt SHoax-- a big pay day for Big Pharma indeed. But this agenda would be the case whether SH was real or hoaxed; so it's a distraction as far as SHoax-Truth is concerned.
Speaking of Sofia, and her declining to go on your show because
"...she felt it would be a hostile environment" (ref: your February 22, 2014 at 4:26 PM comment at the same link as in item 2 above); it seems her instinct was correct there, if this Halbig "interview" was any indication!
7. I'd still love a reply to my @12:38 PM question above, TIA! :)
March 6, 2014 at 5:17 PM
There's a couple of pro-gov-SHoax-story trolls in the thread (George, Aleksa), posting joowey "Flip the Script and Project" spam, which I've decided isn't worth any time responding to for now. :)
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...90206013096376
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gaaawwd, ive missed all this drama...
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@PatColo--I applaud your efforts over there!! Thank so much for your excellent comments--I completely agree with everything you said:) (I just don't have the gift of quite, sharp replies that you do;) Her treatment of Wolfgang was shameful and disgraceful. I've actually stopped listening to her since she came out and started promoting the JEWISH media version of Sandy Hook--and crying on her show and encouraging her listeners to think about the suffering parents and their dead children was too much for me to tolerate. Also, fyi, over at grizzom, anytime something on the Sandy Hook Hoax gets posted over there, I'm starting to leave a link to our SH thread here--I get the sense that despite the attacks from trolls over there, there are many who are still interested in seriously looking into this, but just don't have a place to go (this was the case for me, until I was finally able to register here--I actually might have been trying since you first posted that "Abandoning support for TUT thread")
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Thanks Amanda. And Spingola's at it with the joowey emotional manipulation noise again in that last one from her I just pasted above, "...26 individuals now moldering in their graves and the parents who may never recover from the grief of losing their children."
:{y
If you feel like puking in your mouth a little bit :D, contrast Spingola's debasing herself in her Halbig interview, with her Mon Mar 3 "poetry with dreeeeamy Michael Walsh" show; where she's just a giddy schoolgirl with a crush. I gave it about 5 mins skipping ahead to see if it got better later, maybe with callers, then gave up on it!
Spingola Speaks 2014.03.03-4
The more I think about her Halbig show, and her divisiveness overall wrt her disingenuous promoting of zion.gov's SHoax story, the madder I get! I wasn't sure b4 if she was sincere or what, but her Halbig performance just ripped the mask off her in the worst way. Her whole "yada yada now you're denigrating police officers yada yada SHAME ON YOU!" drama-queen scene was just so over the top; so fake & contrived, so manipulative! :(
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@PatColo-Yeah, I noticed that jewish emotional manipulation tactic again--no surprise there, that's the same thing she did on one of her shows. And I'll have to pass on listening to her with Michael Walsh--those shows were always nauseating, with her giggling and falling all over herself. I really just stopped listening to her after Sandy Hook--it was really quite a shocker, and I'm still trying to make sense of it. I'm pretty sure she used to see this as a hoax, b/c she had Dr. K on last year, and he talked about the hoaxing at the Boston Marathon bombing and Sandy Hook, and she never indicated any disagreement with him. And I'm fairly certain that in the show she did w/Dave McGowan on the Boston Bombing, she asked him if he had a chance to look into Sandy Hook, and she seemed to be suggesting to him that there was hoaxing there as well. So, again, I'm not sure what happened, other than that she read MCP's book back in November and then she seemed to flip. And her personality also seemed to flip then, b/c I was in her chatroom when she had MCP on to talk about the JFK assassination, and I was making positive comments about MCP's work, except I said something about how he "didn't get the hoax element." Well, much to my surprise, Deanna got quite rude and obnoxious toward me in the chatroom, and literally told me that I should refrain from my opinion until I read his book!?!?! I was kind of shocked by that, and that was the last time I was in her chat. And then, when she came out in full support of the JEWISH fairy tale of Sandy Hook, well that was the final straw for me. I'm still kind of shocked by all of it. I was actually not at all surprised by the stance of MG, MCP or the rest of the TUT crowd--I had actually stopped listening to them long before Sandy Hook b/c I was highly suspicious of the fact that they repeatedly supported the official story around all of these highly suspicious shootings (Batman/Aurora, Gabby Giffords/Judge Roll, Sikh Temple, Norway/Brevik,e tc).
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^ it was last spring or summer IIRC she had C.Richardson on, and CR said some remarks about S.Hoax & Boston Hoax; he being on the 'hoax' side, and Deanna seemed to agree, or at least not 'disagree'. It'd be a needle in a haystack to find though, given how much she's had CR on.
I was curious about your McGowan ref, so found the show and will give a (re?)-listen,
Friday, 6/7: David McGowan, Special Report on the Boston Marathon: The Curious Case of the Man Who Could Only Sit Down (MP3)
I wonder if she has a big self righteous "SHAME ON YOU!" for Bishop Richard Williamson?
http://youtu.be/_dHU7V0MF4s
http://youtu.be/_dHU7V0MF4s
My main beef with TUT prior to their rolling out their obnoxious anti-SHoax-skepticism campaign in Jan '13, was their propping up the myth that USA's so-called "elections" have any integrity whatsoever. MG & MCP would do whole shows together belaboring who they were going to "vote" for, and their super-clever strategic reasons for doing so; meanwhile "steering" listeners to preoccupy themselves with this fake political debate & enshrining the myth that "their vote COUNTS!" lol. :D But yes, come to think of it, TUT does have a pattern of taking the official narrative side of many FF's, x-911. I guess this got past me coz I didn't really get into it before S.Hoax.
Actually I guess by Jan '11 I was skeptical of the Loughner/AZ shooting... viewing Loughner as a mind-control victim, similar to MCP's limited-hangout stance on Lanza/SHoax. You have any opinion of this Zamudio guy, Amanda? Might he have (almost?) been a 'spoiler' to a perfectly well planned FF/PsyOp?
Thread: Interviews with Joe Zamudio, Arizona masacre CCW hero
(put any reply in that thread so not to derail this one plz :))
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The 3/4 Spingola so-called "interview" show with Halbig comments @ Mamis have gone pretty much silent now, at 40 comments. So I moved up a couple of my unanswered questions for Spingola, to the latest Halbig interview thread comments.
Using quote boxes italicizes everything, so I'll just use indents to paste these:
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Deanna said...
According to the introduction at the beginning of the program, this interview took place on February 18, a week after Gahary's initial interview with Halbig on February 11.
March 7, 2014 at 11:57 AM
Pat Colo said...
Deanna @ 11:57: I don't know what to make of the date-of-interview question; as this AFP page dated 3/5 gives the impression that's when it took place;
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=1589....OL9AGddh.dpuf
but Gahary's date-related words at the opening are pretty clear. Maybe your employer AFP put up the page inferring the interview took place 3/5 coz Wolf's a hot item atm, and they knew the ad-rich page would catch lots of new eyeballs?
Separately, I'd appreciate if you could respond to a couple of questions I've asked you in previous SHoax discussions @ Mami's, which you didn't respond to in their respective threads (or anywhere AFAIK).
Most recent was re your Mar 4 Halbig "interview" show comments:
https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?bl...90206013096376
where @7:42 AM you stated in part,
" I asked him some very direct questions, many of which he avoided answering or else he changed the subject. "
in response I asked you,
"[...] could you please provide some examples of the "many" instances in this show, where in response to a direct question, Wolf "avoided answering or else he changed the subject", ideally with minute-marks? This so I can re-listen to the exchange, and see whether or not I agree? Coz based on the show I heard, it sounds like this claim may be another case of...
http://tinyurl.com/opf5sjo
Second question I asked here @11:07 PM, and never got an answer:
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blo...33661382763428
"[...] those following this saga know Deanna has repeatedly declared to the effect of, 'I never said I support the government's Sandy Hook Story!'. I distinctly recall her writing this in a Mamis comment, though finding WHICH SHOW would require more time than I have atm.
So this seeming "supporting of both sides" beckons the question, on which "S.Hoax anomalies" issues are you in support of S.Hoax skeptics? Which specific aspects of zion.gov's official S.Hoax narrative do you disbelieve (ref: 'I never said I support the government's Sandy Hook Story!')? Where do you and the S.Hoax skeptics share common ground?
March 8, 2014 at 12:16 AM
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I was curious about your McGowan ref, so found the show and will give a (re?)-listen,
Friday, 6/7: David McGowan, Special Report on the Boston Marathon: The Curious Case of the Man Who Could Only Sit Down (MP3)
Listening to this McGowan interview, I became curious who "Dr. K" was; apparently this is him from a show just 1 week after the Boston Hoax. I know I listened at the time, but will re-listen in light of post 1/15/14 (Spingola's "coming out" on SHoax show in the OP) 'developments', :)
Monday, 4/22: Dr. Kaasem Khaleel talks about Sandy Hook and the Boston Marathon (MP3)
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@PatColo- In the McGowan interview, I'm fairly certain it came up toward the end, and I think McGowan said he was working on another project at that time, wasn't paying attention, but now wouldn't write off the idea of it being a hoax, given what he had seen w/Boston. Also, on MCP/MG, yup, that was another problem--acting like voting and elections are real in this country. And when people called into MCP, saying that the elections were getting stolen, MCP acted like he had never heard of such a thing before?!?! (Could he really be that naïve?) Plus, he also repeatedly told listeners there's nothing to worry about w/regard to the UN--So apparently, he hasn't heard of Agenda 21. So, all those things put together, made me turn them off--just too suspicious for me, especially the repeated promotion of the official story around these mass shooting events. MG only questions an event if a Muslim is accused. I'll give those Zamudio interviews a listen later. Also, on the idea of DS flipping on SH after reading MCP's book, it's still kind of hard to believe that that's all it would take b/c from what JF and JF said in the non-debate show (when MCP no-showed b/c of health problems with his LEG- and not with his heart as MG insinuated in his inflammatory post), there wasn't much of a compelling argument in MCP's book. All he did was mention the Cass Sunstein info (what's new about that? there's always been infiltration), and then MCP mentioned that Devvy Kidd says SH hoax theories are "crazy"--but since when is Devvy some sort of expert on psyops and false flags? What she says has nothing to do with the facts and evidence.
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4 new comments @ first link above, making 44 now. I'm on board with the last 2 (atm), from "larry" and "the veteran".
latest comments from Deanna, posted at that 2nd link above. I haven't dug into the links she's given yet, just reposting here for now... I just know I need to brace myself for a negative mood change, b4 opening her links! :(
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Ugh...This is so exhausting!! But real quickly, it's interesting that she mentioned this "Poseidon" character--I'm actually a bit familiar with him and think he's responsible for the smear article "Fetzer and Friends" (basically an attack piece on those of us who see Sandy Hook as a HOAX). The article first surfaced (I believe) at around the time of the debates and was linked to by George Jones (aka, Consti2tionalist, ExposeSupremacism, Rockclimber). So, I encountered this "Poseidon" character in the comments section here: http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2014...ndy-hook-hoax/ OMG, I haven't been there in days and it looks like it's still going on!!! Ugh, this stuff never stops. Now eve JFetz has joined in. Oh, no, well now they've moved onto arguing about 911. Well, for what it's worth, last time I was there, maybe around 3/2, people were outing "Poseidon" as a troll--they were onto this smear tactics, as well as the amount of time he had to be posting so much.
And for what it's worth, the smear articles are linked to here: http://www.takeourworldback.com/
On that page you see the articles below. What's kind of interesting to me is that the words sound like the stuff we were hearing from MG and MCP. Also this person seems to have a definite problem with the hoaxes (they actually try to defend that utter absurdity that happened at Woolwich, which I posted on in the Hollywoodization of Terror thread). And fwiw, a friend of mine read one of these smear articles and thought it sounded like it may have been written by MCP
Latest: Top Ten Reasons: Jim Fetzer and Friends are Sunstein Shills Fetzer is the ringleader of the disinformation agents who present as lunatics, and by a process of elimination, it can be seen that Fetzer is a principal player in Cass Sunstein's cognitive infiltration operations.
The End of Sandy Hook Conspiracy Theories Judas Goats posing as "researchers" in the truth movement attempt to discredit research into real conspiracies by posting unadulterated nonsense about non-existent conspiracies.
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@PatColo- In the McGowan interview, I'm fairly certain it came up toward the end, and I think McGowan said he was working on another project at that time, wasn't paying attention, but now wouldn't write off the idea of it being a hoax, given what he had seen w/Boston. Also, on MCP/MG, yup, that was another problem--acting like voting and elections are real in this country. And when people called into MCP, saying that the elections were getting stolen, MCP acted like he had never heard of such a thing before?!?! (Could he really be that naïve?) Plus, he also repeatedly told listeners there's nothing to worry about w/regard to the UN--So apparently, he hasn't heard of Agenda 21. So, all those things put together, made me turn them off--just too suspicious for me, especially the repeated promotion of the official story around these mass shooting events. MG only questions an event if a Muslim is accused. I'll give those Zamudio interviews a listen later. Also, on the idea of DS flipping on SH after reading MCP's book, it's still kind of hard to believe that that's all it would take b/c from what JF and JF said in the non-debate show (when MCP no-showed b/c of health problems with his LEG- and not with his heart as MG insinuated in his inflammatory post), there wasn't much of a compelling argument in MCP's book. All he did was mention the Cass Sunstein info (what's new about that? there's always been infiltration), and then MCP mentioned that Devvy Kidd says SH hoax theories are "crazy"--but since when is Devvy some sort of expert on psyops and false flags? What she says has nothing to do with the facts and evidence.
Amanda, lots to tackle there. I've listened to the Spingloa with McGowan and with Dr. K interviews again. Good memory re the McGowan show; the S.Hoax topic comes and goes quickly, as he says it was really boston which woke him up that this scale of hoaxery is indeed going on. The Dr. K (http://nodisinfo.com) interview is much more telling re Spingola & S.Hoax. Advance to the 2nd half, 44:00, where the S.Hoax topic is taken up. Spingola mostly made ooohs & aaahs about the points Dr. K made re S.Hoax, but never really came out in definitive agreement or disagreement with the full-on-hoax view which Dr. K promoted. Interestingly, Dr. K asserted that all the S.Hoax "parents" were jooz, except perhaps Robbie Parker who is a relative mystery man, though he asserted Parker is a "DHS mole".
On MCP, I forget which guest on whose show I heard say it recently, but I agree with their 'suspicion' that MCP's books are ghost-written by CIA spooks, then accredited to MCP. Lots more to say on that than I have the time/energy to compose atm, but in short I think Bollyn's take on MCP & AFP are on target. IMHO, as far as Brand-Name-Truthers™ we'll call them :D go; Bollyn appears to be the most uncompromised; and I've followed him for nearly 10 years! Sadly, Spingola, who I only 'discovered' ~2 years ago, was giving Bollyn a run for his money for that top spot, until her post-Jan-15 jumping the shark on S.Hoax, which has knocked her out of that race entirely.
Re the UN, yep, Agenda 21, Global Commie-Core "Education", vaccine caused neurocide & impotency... I'm promoting the slogan,
Vaccine 'NEUROCIDE' + Rotten Core Ed + Agenda 21 = THE JWO! :(
On Devvy Kidd, and this is where we get 'conflicted' in which compromised truther's work & views we cite, but... here (nearly 4 years ago), I'm with GlennCo:
Thread: zio-shill Devvy Kidd- Scary Moozlemism: A cancer oozing across America
You can see in that ^ thread, as well as earlier in this very Spingola/shark thread, that I take flack from a certain "I HATE SCARY MOLZEMISMISTS!" sub-group here @ GSUS for my failure to HATEhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 SCARY-MOOZLEMShttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 as would be so pleasing to the joosh "Clash of Civilizations" agitproppers.
Along this line, I'll even give a shout out here to perhaps my favorite Spingola show ever... :)
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Real quick, on Devvy Kidd, yeah she's definitely a zio-shill. And I was totally aware of MG speaking out against Devvy. But what was really funny (in a sad, sick, twisted, pathetic way) was to hear MG and MCP applauding Devvy for calling those Sandy Hook conspiracy theories "crazy"--so now all of the sudden, she's one of the good guys in their world. And I think this was from the show here http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.c...p-dec-17-2013/ I'm pretty sure it was MCP speaking so positively about DK, and MG was completely supportive. Also, fwiw, at about 36:25 MCP mentioned how a "good anti-Zionist jew," Judy Andreas, claims that her grandchild attended Sandy Hook and that she was "pained" by those of us claiming it was fake. FWIW, I thought it was strange that MCP would immediately accept this as evidence--hasn't he ever heard of another special HOAX that lots of jewish people claim was real?? At first I thought perhaps MCP was making up this claim about Andreas, but I did a search on her and found a facebook page were she made the last post claiming it was real https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...d=373568871489
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^ interesting stuff Amanda :). Esp GlennCo's flip-flopping on Devvy, lol. Pretty sure I linked to that Dec MG/MCP show here - but I don't link to TUT anymore so it's all Mami's. You can see in the comments there @ Mami's how "well" it went over! MG censors comments @ TUT anyways so you'd just get a warped view there. I'm sure I suffered through that show last Dec but that Devvy ref must've gotten by me-- notice that Devvy/zio-shill thread is nearly 4 years old.
I never got into J.Andreas one way or the other, but I do remember years ago, reading some article critical of her; cited her and a number of others oft cited as "good anti-zio jooz", but in reality being basically "anti-zionist zionists"... I wouldn't know where to begin in finding it now.
And re your,
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Also, on the idea of DS flipping on SH after reading MCP's book, it's still kind of hard to believe that that's all it would take b/c from what JF and JF said in the non-debate show (when MCP no-showed b/c of health problems with his LEG- and not with his heart as MG insinuated in his inflammatory post), there wasn't much of a compelling argument in MCP's book. All he did was mention the Cass Sunstein info (what's new about that? there's always been infiltration), [...]
Funny too that MCP's same book says boston was real; but Deanna, in accepting whatever deal with the devil she has in assuming her absurd, official zion.gov report-dependent, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism-SHAME-ON-YOU! advocacy role; she still has to stick with her prior Boston=Hoax position, putting her at ODDS with MCP & his/CIA's super-persuasive false flags book, coz she already sort of locked herself into that awkward position with the McGowan & Dr. K interviews above where she was in such vocal agreement re the Boston hoax. And just read that first transcription in the OP here, taken from her initial Jan 15 S.Hoax show, how twisted & baffling her "logic" is wrt why she thinks they hoaxed boston, but not S.Hoax! :|~
She's really painted herself into a difficult & untenable corner! :o
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I've had a chance to review the 3 pages DS points to above. As you described it Amanda, following (and defacto 'blogging' in my case) this DS/S.Hoax saga is "exhausting"... and as I just commented at JFriend's blog, it's also been (emotionally) "traumatic" watching someone (DS) who formerly occupied a pedestal of relative integrity & credibility IMHO, borrowing variously from the 25 rules of disinformation and the list of logical fallacies which she's otherwise 'expert' at spotting, in absurdly making her case in support of zion.gov's official S.Hoax narrative. Not to mention how zion.gov-provided docs & JYTimes/etc propaganda articles seem to have suddenly become beyond reproach for her! :rolleyes:
The first link above entitled, "Links for Deanna's Interview of Wolfgang Halbig March 4, 2014", which I see at the top now notes, "Update: March 9, 2014: [...]", amounts to a continuation of DS's ad-hom discreditation campaign against Halbig, based on non-S.Hoax-related matters. The suite vs box # 'scandal', etc... Zzzzzzzz, 'nuff said. Actually, the new/Mar 9 paragraphs at the top of the page, ending with the change of subject towards "Suite-Number-Gate" ;D where the old version of the webpage began, touch on a couple of WH's S.Hoax questions, and also rehashes WH's (misguided) views on djooz... an ad-hom calculated to appeal directly to DS's minority, joo-wise listening audience.
DS's 2nd link above, entitled "Wolfgang Halbig Asks Deanna to Stop Asking Questions and Critiquing Smallstorm's Video : Delphi/Censorship Operation" (by Deanna Spingola March 9, 2014), opens with a paragraph which exemplifies djooz' all time favorite disinfo MO: the "Flip the Script and Project" gambit. Pasting here for posterity,
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Wolfgang Halbig, on numerous radio shows, has talked about his experiences and has openly divulged the contents of his mail to Newtown police and school officials demanding answers to his questions. Halbig has made accusations, denigrated police officers, and questioned the behavior of grieving parents. He says that local homicide detectives came to his house and threatened him. Following that, he says that two sheriff's deputies came to his house and threatened him. However, when I recently started questioning the conclusions or rather the consensus (group-think) that others had arrived at regarding Sandy Hook, Halbig and others, via email, phone calls and in internet forums, often using mob censure (see first paragraph), have attempted to denigrate and silence me. People, following their leaders, do the dirty work using this method of censorship. Look at what happened to Suzanne when she offered information in a forum (see first comment). It can get quite mean-spirited. Multiply that example by thousands because certain people "framed the debate" over a year ago. They determined what the "truth movement" was going to believe about Sandy Hook. I conducted a hard-hitting interview with Halbig and I dared to ask him some questions. After all, he was demanding answers from others, issues that the official report, released on November 25, 2013, had already addressed. Most people, for a variety of reasons, including being over-worked, raising a family, insufficient time, have not read those reports and simply trusted others for information. Halbig, perhaps exploiting those circumstances, gained massive support for his seemingly reasonable questions. Many people support him in an unnecessary and possibly a harassment campaign against Newtown officials. Given this situation, why shouldn't someone demand some answers from Halbig? I have an easily-accessible track record of research, writing and broadcasting. I did not just suddenly appear. I earned whatever trust people might have in me. I have a legitimate right to ask Halbig about his credentials and past experiences and to verify his claims. He, or anyone else, should have absolutely nothing to hide if the claims that he/she is making are true. After all, truth does not fear investigation!!!!
Cass Sunstein Document
Interesting Timeline: [...]
Now, we know DS, who's a WW2 & holohoax (& much more) revisionist author, knows well djooz' #1 favorite "Flip the Script and Project" lying MO (using Joowathan Kay's reality-inverting "Among The Truthers" book as an example in that link; also see ZCF's The Psychological Projections of Organized Jewry), esp when it comes to their "Big Lies" like re Hitler/WW2, the Holohoax, and 9/11. So we know that when DS brazenly employs this lying MO in making her case for her proclaimed beliefs, that something is seriously amiss. :|~
Above, DS tries to portray herself as, "...questioning the conclusions or rather the consensus (group-think) that others had arrived at regarding Sandy Hook"; but she does so from the position of embracing zion.media.gov's official S.Hoax narrative! 80-90+ percent of Americans unquestioningly embrace the zion.media.gov-manufactured "consensus (group-think)" narrative of S.Hoax, "following their leaders" as she puts it, in her trying to Flip the Script and Project!! :D
So from that ^ pretend 'minority, outside-of-the-consensus (group-think) viewpoint' which DS fraudulently tries to posture as representing, despite that it's obviously truly describing her opponents in the S.Hoax-skeptics/research community (IE she's reverse-projecting); she then seeks to portray herself as the VICTIM™ of how people, "...often using mob censure (see first paragraph), have attempted to denigrate and silence me." Yes indeed, those aligned with zion.media.gov's official S.Hoax story, are 'the bullied, voiceless underdogs' in this debate, lol.
On Feb 23, DS was publicly seeking to ad-hom/discredit WH based on her unsubstantiated speculation that he was perhaps LYING about the police visits to his home, in his seeking to play the VICTIM™ card (ref: "I am very dubious about his claims of the local police coming to his house. Jewish people do make such claims; they love being victims as it brings them so much attention. It certainly seems to have worked for him"). < Notice there, DS also matter-of-factly inferred that WH is joosh, which he rejected in their March 4 "interview", stating that he's Polish/Catholic. On March 6, two days after her WH "interview", DS publicly bemoaned and speculated, "It would seem that Halbig is now the victim after my interview with him. Perhaps that is the reason he accepted my invitation to be on the program." Hmmm. So DS plainly holds those who (she imagines) try to "play the VICTIM™ card" in contempt. Yet when it suits her, as we see in her opening paragraph above; then her fraudulently claiming VICTIM™ status by Flipping the Script & Projecting, is A-OK. :cool:
I mean, she's plainly watched in envy at how well it works for djooz! --H H--
DS's linking to the "Cass Sunstein Document" at the end of her opening paragraph above, without comment, deserves some comment from me. On March 6 in the comments at Mami's, a character who posts mostly anti-S.Hoax-skepticism comments seeking to denigrate/ridicule/silence S.Hoax-skeptics; s/he posting variously as Consti2tionalist/ExposeSupremacism/Rockclimber/George Jones, posted a comment which cited Cass Sunstein... again... suggesting that S.Hoax skeptics were likely "Sunstein agents"...
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Furthermore you really don't see how damaging this is to the real truth movement. Call me paranoid but I do not trust anyone who is on the hoaxer side.
You are employing the very tactics that Cass Sunstein had hoped for and quite honestly,
you guys are doing great work for him. It's just
disgusting and now you guys are
making attempts to destroy Deanna? Even more
suspicious...
March 6, 2014 at 11:57 AM
This was about the bijillionth time I'd heard/read the anti-S.Hoax-skepticism info warriors cite "Cass Sunstein", in seeking to tar the S.Hoax skeptic/research community with suspicion & doubt that we're "Sunstein agents". The Piper/Glenn/Tillawi crew have repeated the 'S.Hoax skepticism = Sunstein Op' bit ad nauseum ever since their Jan 13, '13 show introducing their new anti-S.Hoax-skepticism campaign, and they've beat that 'Sunstein' drum to a pulp ever since. In DS's Jan 15, '14 show announcing her membership in the pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism clubhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, the show which I critiqued in the OP here; she openly 'speculated' near the end, saying "...So the best way for a counter-operation, is to say, 'Hey, nobody died. Nobody died that day...", suggesting the same old same old from the pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story warriors: S.Hoax skepticism is a gummit op..." In the very TITLE of her webpage above, DS accuses WH of being a "Delphi/Censorship Operation".
I replied to "George Jones" above,
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And what's with you pro-official-SHoax-story warriors' fixation on Cass Sunstein? GlennCo, Deanna, and the nobodies hereabouts posting comments, hammer that Sunstein bit ad nauseum! His junk was nothing new, cointelpro's been active since the '60s, and "in deep" since long before the 911 TM got any traction.
Frankly, you pro-official-SHoax-story folks relentlessly suggesting/accusing SHoax-skeptics/investigators of being
"Sunstein Agents Yada Yada", reeks of the age-old joowey
"Flip the Script and Project" maneuver! In your words,
"Even more suspicious..."
http://www.israelsituation.com/wp-co...1832978893.jpg
March 6, 2014 at 12:59 PM
That's ^ where I stand on the incessant "Sunstein agents! :o" smears coming from the pro-zion.gov-SHoax-story info warriors. It's them *PREEMPTIVELY* Flipping the Script & Projecting. I've said for years, for this textbook joo disinfo MO to be most successful, it's crucial that the guilty party, in this instance the "Sunstein cognitive-infiltration agents" inside the TM who are absurdly propping up zion.media.gov's official S.Hoax story, while (laboring tirelessly to) denigrate/ridicule/shame/silence its skeptics inside the TM; the guilty/agent party must BE THE FIRST & THE LOUDEST & THE MOST REPETITIOUS in accusing their 'opponents' of exactly what they the guilty/zion.gov-agent party is supremely & conspicuously guilty of. It's a 'SIGNATURE' joo lying MO; thus when I see it, esp as early, often, & systematically as I have from the pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism clubhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, I know we're dealing with trained, organized, & dishonest actors.
I'll deal with the "Interesting Timeline:" portion of DS's webpage in a later post; taking a break from this nonsense for now!
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I can't keep up with all the things Dianna or others are saying back and forth but something seems to me to have gone wrong with her. I had listened to an interview I believe she did with Mike King and the conversation at one point focused on whole families being murdered I believe in WWII. Dianna started crying and couldn't seem to stop for quite a while. I think I've noticed in other interviews doing the same thing.
At the time I wondered if she has some mental or emotional problems that when it comes to dead children her brain shuts down because she can't handle it? The position she's taken on Sandy Hook and her crying when the subject in her interviews turns to children suffering has me wondering about her mental and emotional health.
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@PatColo---Thank you so much for the EXCELLENT post above. I'll add more detailed thoughts later. Dealing with Deanna, the Deanna fanboys, and TUT cult members has been beyond exhausting.
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Thanks Amanda. I wish it all weren't so!
@ Tumbleweed, very possible I guess. DS has also 'wept on air' when doing the series of solo S.Hoax shows she's done since her initial Jan 15 S.Hoax show (all should be linked somewhere above), when talking about those poor 20 children & adult victims yada yada. I'm less concerned with her 'female' emotional response to tragedies real or hoaxed, than I am with her fallacious "reasoning" in favor of zion.gov's fictitious S.Hoax story.
Anyways, DS was supposed to have an RBN show yesterday (sun mar 9); but I don't see any evidence anywhere that the show took place?
http://www.spingola.com/March2014.html
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Sunday, 3/9: Hour 1: Deanna talks about Internet propaganda and
Operation Censorship; Hours 2 & 3:
Larry Engel talks about Censorship on the Internet;
This weeks challenge: Are you gullible to Internet propaganda? Take a test to determine your vulnerability. Watch this
video. Did you believe the claims it made? If you did, why? Was it the music, the authoritarian manner in which the presenter spoke? Did he give you his sources so that you could validate them yourself? Was it his claims? Rather than just accept those claims, please visit the
SSDMF, the Social Security Death Master File. On the left, please click on User-based Subscriptions to see how much it costs for one person to access the database. Did the creator of the video pay that fee? Next, please visit
Connecticut's Department of Public Health. Public online genealogy databases cannot and do not contain recent birth records!!!
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(sorry if this is a bit hard to read--I'm still new to this forum and haven't figured out how to do all the formatting)
Well, I started to go through Deanna's http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html and it's a bit mentally fatiguing--lots of twisting of info, convoluted logic, and quite a bit of projection. She's been on this theme for a while now, where's she's accusing the rest of us (who believe it was a hoax) of using "group manipulation tactics." But the only psychological manipulation I've seen has come from their side, as we immediately saw MG and the TUT gang (I think MCP quickly joined in) go on the attack with constant ridicule, mockery, insults, name-calling ("crazy" and "insane"), and intimidation of anyone who dared to question the official story coming out of the Jewish media. And I can most certainly attest to the fact that there was a great deal of censorship going on in Deanna's chatroom, as she directly told me to "refrain" from my opinion until I read MCP's book (sorry, I'm an educated person, who does her own research and is capable of basic logic and critical thinking--I don't need an internet radio host to tell me how to think:) And there were later times when comments my friend and I made on SH being a hoax were simply deleted. So, who is really doing the censoring??
Also, she brought this stuff up again:
On Wednesday, January 8, 2014, John Friend was to host a debate about Sandy Hook, particularly Dr. James Fetzer's article, written on 1/7, between Piper and Fetzer. Mike experienced a serious health issue, emailed Friend very early that morning and asked if Friend could reschedule the debate. Friend then talked with Fetzer on his radio program and stated that Piper had "backed out."
On Monday, January 13, 2014, Michael Collins Piper was taken to the Emergency room by ambulance with a possible, painful blood clot in his leg. Doctors hospitalized him, did a whole battery of tests and discovered that he was suffering with congestive heart failure and had previously suffered a heart attack. Fetzer claimed that Piper was faking it to avoid the debate.
Well, on the "serious health issue" that led MCP to cancel the debate, it's my understanding that he simply emailed Fetzer and Friend that he couldn't make it b/c of problems with his leg. It doesn't sound as though MCP indicated he was in grave condition, and of course, there' s no way JF or JF could have known that MCP would end up in the hospital five days later due to problems with his heart. Here's what Fetzer wrote about this in his article http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01...nd-sandy-hook/
"Imagine our astonishment when we received an early AM email from Michael Collins Piper tells us that he was experiencing physical problems with his foot and leg and could not participate in the scheduled debate"
And above, Deanna also says that " Fetzer claimed that Piper was faking it to avoid the debate." Well, I actually listened to that audio twice, and I never heard Fetzer say MCP was "faking" his health problems (which, to Fetzer's knowledge at that point, were simply problems with his leg---no one had any way of knowing that MCP would have heart problems five days later). All I heard in that show w/Fetzer and Friend, was that Fetzer did a little friendly kidding, saying in a joking tone that perhaps MCP had to cancel b/c he looked at the evidence. It was a joke!!! At no time did Fetzer or Friend say MCP was lying about his health problems, or that it was a hoax (which is what MG and MCP later accused them of doing)
Deanna also goes on to suggest that those of us who believe it's a hoax are unwilling to change our stance in light of new information:
"The one thing that I note, whether it was during the 'debates' or on a radio program, those who believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax never change their views about any of the issues, even when presented with contradictory evidence or when someone answers their questions. Perhaps these people are not really looking for answers. They just wish to impose their views on the population. People who research regularly change their minds as they discover additional data. Change agents do not do that."
So, given the fact that TIME magazine did a public records search and found that there were NO weapons or firearms registered to Nancy Lanza (57 sec mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2CJVaYHqBw), and since ATF Agent Marquez stated that said his agency "has not been able to uncover any evidence that the mother and the son were actively engaged in going to the gun ranges, practicing marksmanship, or anything of that nature" (source: http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/15/us/con...iref=allsearch), does this mean that Deanna is going to retract what she said on her show on 1/15 at 30:40:
" [...] A little bit about Adam Lanza. His mother loved guns. She often took her sons to one of the shooting ranges in the area. She was active there. She was a gun enthusiast [...]"
For the record, I highly doubt that Deanna will retract what she said. It seems as though she is the one who is unwilling to re-evaluate her position in light of new information. It's quite obvious (and very disappointing) that she is HIGHLY INVESTED in promoting the JEWISH narrative around Sandy Hook. And, as I said before, I honestly don't know how to makes sense of her flipping on Sandy Hook (and she definitely did flip--she had Dr. K about Boston and Sandy Hook and never indicated any disagreement, and back then she never interjected "think about the suffering parents and their dead children" as she is now doing), except that it occurred after reading MCP's book. And this is a book written by a someone who proved in the debate that he knows NOTHING about the basic facts and evidence involved in Sandy Hook.
Also, on the topic of Deanna switching, here's her schedule from Dec 2012 (month of Sandy Hook HOAX) http://www.spingola.com/December2012.html and if you scroll down to 12/31, she links to this http://www.spingola.com/31Questions.html and she also linked to a Robbie Parker video, which is now marked private, but when I checked after she seemed to turn on SH during that show w/MCP, that video was one that showed RP laughing/joking on his way up to the microphone and then getting into character. So, given that she was linking to this stuff back in 12/12, it seems like she was definitely questioning the event initially, but now, after reading MCP's book, she's in full support of the official JEWISH media version of events. (?????)
Well, there's plenty more I could say on Deanna's recent posts, as well as her critique of Sofia's documentary, but I honestly don't have the time or mental energy right now.
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Good post Amanda, and jibes with my memory of events, without going through the tedium of re-listening to the old podcasts in question. Also well spied on DS's hypocrisy re her blind-stubborness of S.Hoax skeptics...want to impose their views...not really looking for answers...they're disingenuous 'Change Agents'...yada...yada... bit; as again it's a textbook example of Flip the Script & Project... that joowey disinfo gambit we've seen infused throughout their campaign since GlennCo rolled it out 14 months ago. They're constantly 'schooling us' on Sunstein, Delphi Technique, mob censure bla bla, hoping that offsets or 'neutralizes' our ability to notice that they're wolves in sheep's clothing, schooling the sheep about those dangerous wolves we need to be leery of, LOL. They're what the Staussian neo-Cons call, "Pious Frauds", [{baa}]
I posted a comment linking to my Reply 71 above, in the Mami's comments on the most recent AFP/Halbig thread (March 10, 2014 at 12:23 PM); but that blog is approaching the bottom of page 2 atm and it won't likely see many eyeballs, much less get further replies. So I'll drop it into JFriend's, memoryholeblog, radiofetzer, etc... anywhere else you can propagate it, appreciated! Here's a tinyurl version you can post, redirecting to the long Reply 71 URL:
http://tinyurl.com/kx83ghs
I still see no indication that DS's scheduled show yesterday (sun mar 9), where WH/S.Hoax were to be discussed, took place?
EDIT: here it is, should be interesting!
You also hit on a couple of DS's "Interesting Timeline" bits which I anticipated remarking on, saving me some work...
I won't paste her whole timeline here as it's lengthy, and DS's larger 'point' is unclear as she never quite 'spelled it out', but frankly her overall message seems to be suggesting ongoing 'vicious persecution' of herself and her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, for their pretend 'minority, outside-of-the-consensus (group-think) viewpoints' LOL. So I'll just quote the timeline items where I have anything to remark on:
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On Friday, December 6, 2013, I interviewed Michael Collins Piper, the author of Final Judgment, on my RBN program. He talked about Cass Sunstein’s proposal of infiltrating the Internet in order to control the debate about certain events or what Sunstein called conspiracy theories.
On Thursday, December 19, 2013, I presented information from B. K. Eakman's book, How to Counter Group Manipulation Tactics: The Techniques of Unethical Consensus Building Unmasked as it relates to group mind manipulation on the Internet.
On Thursday, December, 26, 2013, I interviewed Michael Collins Piper, the author of Final Judgment, talks about his book, False Flags, Template for Terror
[...]
On Wednesday, February 12, 2014, I interviewed Beverly Eakman about mass mind control; it is easier to control a group than it is to control an individual.
Sunstein, Group Manipulation Tactics, mass mind control Yada Yada 'nuff said.
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On Wednesday, February 5, 2014, Keith Johnson was on my program where he talked about Sandy Hook. Dr. Fetzer called into the program, and ended the conversation by claiming that I was losing my listenership
DS kindly included that 4 minute 'called into the program' MP3 audio clip of the Fetzer call-in. Definitely listen to it... as I described here in my Reply #21, after the preceding 55 minutes dominated by DS & KJ tag-team ad-hom attacking Fetzer who at that point called in; DS quickly muted Fetzer for most of his call-in, finally unmuted him, asked him how he knows DS is 'losing listenership', then obviously afraid of what Fetzer's answer may be, DS HUNG UP ON HIM.
Does the audio clip itself, jibe with DS's characterization of how "[Fetzer] ended the conversation" ?? Or does it sound like more of the same "joowey rhetorical manipulation gambits" she's employed throughout her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism campaign, beginning on Jan 15??
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Arrest by CT State Police? (From other sources we know that Halbig sent another letter to the Newtown Board of Education on the same day, January 22, 2014 making demands)
[...]
Above is the beginning of a lengthy email which WH sent to Newtown police asking S.Hoax questions, interspersed with commentary from DS in parenthesis. I'm not quoting the whole thing here; I invite readers to check it out at her "Wolfgang Halbig Asks Deanna to Stop Asking Questions and Critiquing Smallstorm's Video : Delphi/Censorship Operation" page.
Please observe how many times DS 'answers' WH's questions, with variations of, "(the answer is in the report)". In fact on that webpage, DS uses the word "report" eighteen (18) times, in reference to zion.gov's official S.Hoax report.
As I said at the opening of Reply 71, "...Not to mention how zion.gov-provided docs & JYTimes/etc propaganda articles seem to have suddenly become beyond reproach for her! :rolleyes: "
In their Mar 4 "interview", WH did manage to 'get a word in edgewise' between DS's relentless interruptions, where at 1:03:30, ex-cop WH lamented, "Are we in trouble! Oh my! No wonder we're not going to solve this problem. We've got so many people, who believe a police report! Deanna, you have got to open up your eyes! Please! Oh my God! Goodness gracious!" lol
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On Tuesday, February 11, 2014, on the same day that Halbig emailed me, on my AFP program, which broadcast from 2-4pm (CST), I presented Part 1 of my critique on Sofia Smallstorm's video: Sofia Smallstorm Unraveling Sandy Hook During my program, Halbig called into the program and strongly suggested that I stop critiquing Smallstorm's video as it was a waste of airtime; hear that sound-bite here
I recommend listening to that 7 min MP3 clip which DS links to above. Note that WH's criticism of DS's burning her precious air time fixated on Sofia and her S.Hoax video (DS did 3 or 4 solo shows devoted exclusively to attacking Sofia & her video, all are linked above somewhere), which amounted to a a very small portion of that WH call-in, is apparently the sole basis for DS's titling her webpage, "Wolfgang Halbig Asks Deanna to Stop Asking Questions and Critiquing Smallstorm's Video : Delphi/Censorship Operation".
Did you hear WH admonish DS to "Stop Asking Questions" anywhere? On the contrary, WH said to DS at 5:35 in the above clip, "Seek the truth; Deanna, only seek the truth". DS's choice of titles for her webpage sounds like more of the same "joowey rhetorical manipulation gambits" she's employed throughout her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism campaign, beginning on Jan 15.
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On Tuesday, February 25, 2014, John Stadtmiller, the owner of RBN, announced my replacement after I had broadcasted on RBN for three and a half years. Apparently, Dr. Fetzer was prophetic when he claimed that I was losing my listenership! Great, more time to do research!
DS's "...announced my replacement" language infers to the reader that she was 'fired' and no longer at RBN. My understanding is, she will still be doing a 3 hour Sunday show on RBN. Her mention of "Dr. Fetzer" in her same misleading timeline entry above, is obviously suggesting to readers that Fetzer, if not the whole 'Eeevil Sunstein-sponsored S.Hoax researchers movement PsyOp', had something to do with DS's (in fact) being replaced for her weekday show time slot.
DS chose not to mention above, that discussion of her leaving RBN has been in play since at least 9/11/13, over 4 months before 1/15/14 when DS announced her membership in the pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018; advance to 21:00 in this DS/MDankof interview. :rolleyes:
But DS's misleading choice of wording for her timeline item above seems to be suggesting ongoing 'vicious persecution' of herself and her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, for their pretend 'minority, outside-of-the-consensus (group-think) viewpoints' LOL.
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On Tuesday, March 4, 2014, I interviewed Wolfgang W. Halbig on my RBN program, MP3; Program Notes On the program I asked him if he was ever a homicide investigator but he avoided the question. When he called into my program on 2/11, he claimed to be a homicide investigator. The one thing that I note, whether it was during the "debates" or on a radio program, those who believe that Sandy Hook was a hoax never change their views about any of the issues, even when presented with contradictory evidence or when someone answers their questions. Perhaps these people are not really looking for answers. They just wish to impose their views on the population. People who research regularly change their minds as they discover additional data. Change agents do not do that.
DS's "...On the program I asked him if he was ever a homicide investigator but he avoided the question. When he called into my program on 2/11, he claimed to be a homicide investigator..." bit above appears to be her 'response' to my twice-asked question of her, as I described & linked in Reply 55 and 56 above,
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Pat Colo said...Deanna, re your remark:
" I asked him some very direct questions, many of which he avoided answering or else he changed the subject. "
could you please provide some examples of the "many" instances in this show, where in response to a direct question, Wolf "avoided answering or else he changed the subject", ideally with minute-marks? This so I can re-listen to the exchange, and see whether or not I agree?
Coz based on the show I heard, it sounds like this claim may be another case of...
http://tinyurl.com/opf5sjo
March 6, 2014 at 12:38 PM
So DS has provided ONE dubious 'example' of the (ALEGEDLY MANY!?!) evasions which she accused WH of committing during the show. Her "...I asked him if he was ever a homicide investigator but he avoided the question..." claim appears to be referring to the exchange beginning at the 51:00 mark of their Mar 4 "interview". Here's the MP3 of the 3/4 show again; and I invite readers to advance to 51:00, and see if you agree with DS's characterization of WH's response to her latest interruption there.
What *I HEARD* was DS interrupting WH at 51:05, and then daisy-chaining 4 separate questions together rapid fire, for WH to answer. WH went about trying to answer her jumble of questions, when he was interrupted again by DS at 51:50, and she changed the subject yet again. Yet she characterized this exchange as, "...he avoided the question...". Flip the Script & Project... does anyone else see a pattern here?
So I hope it's clear by now, the "quality of discourse" which DS and her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 have delivered through this whole S.Hoax controversy.
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I've listened to this now. DS is solo the first hour; actually it's 45 mins in the MP3 above where the comm/news breaks are removed; and she talks Sunstein, Delphi, infiltration, & WH.
Not much to remark about the first 29.5 mins, as it's more of the same old same old with DS schooling listeners on Sunstein, infiltration, Delphi, etc. Following MCP's lead I guess.
Gets interesting at 29:30 where she introduces the WH topic again. DS notes how WH's Child Safety Institute website has gone down. She rehashes Suite-Number-Gate, Zzzzzzz. She claims that the "referrals" WH cited at his (former) CSI website, were all deceased people. This claim is apparently according to the "research" of an anonymous "Poseidon" internet persona who DS evidently extends her full faith & credit to... so much so that she posted "Poseidon's research" denigrating WH's (former) business, publicly on her "Links for Deanna's Interview of Wolfgang Halbig March 4, 2014" webpage. Hey, at least she "cites her source", lol :cool: Don't miss Amanda's info on DS's "uber-trusted anonymous internet source", the "Poseidon" character, in her Reply 66 above.
At 32:25, DS says of WH:
"... He demands all these answers from other people. And yet when I questioned some of the information that had come out; he really didn't want me, you know, asking any questions, about people who'd done research on Sandy Hook. He called into my program, a program that I did on February 11, and umm, and really didn't want me to be asking questions. "
DS imagines all of the above, again, based on WH's ~7 minute call-in to her Feb 11 show (MP3 clip), where WH even says to DS at 5:35 in the clip, "Seek the truth; Deanna, only seek the truth".
DS appears to me to be posturing as the VICTIM™ again above; as her seemingly 'paranoid' characterization of WH's very polite call-in, is in tune with her portrayal of herself as the VICTIM™ of how people, "...often using mob censure (see first paragraph), have attempted to denigrate and silence me", as she stated in her opening paragraph here. More on DS's make-believe persecution & VICTIMHOOD™ in my Reply 71 above. http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.png
At 33:20 in this Mar 9 show, DS resumes her ad-hom attacks against WH, related to his just-dissolved CSI business. She wonders aloud to her audience,
"... His parter quit, because of Halbig's questioning of Sandy Hook. Well I'd like to know, okay, who was his partner; and if Halbig has been investigating Sandy Hook for about a year, didn't that partner know about that investigation before now? I think it's very interesting that his partner quit, and that Halbig took down his website just 3 short days after I questioned the validity of his business on my radio program on March 4th. Now, if he fabricated a business, did he also fabricate the story about the local homicide detectives and sheriff's deputies coming to his house to threaten him? Maybe he just saw them at the local supermarket and said hi. ..."
DS knows well that WH's investigation into S.Hoax 'blew up', went global, viral, beginning only Feb 11th; as surely as she writes in her own timeline entry following:
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On Tuesday, February 11, 2014, Dave Gahary uploaded a podcast, School Safety Expert Threatened for Questioning Sandy Hook, which went viral throughout the Internet. See more here
WH's business partner obviously didn't ask for, nor want, the uninvited attention of being the business partner of the overnight US/global alt-media sensation which WH had become post Feb 11. WH was presumably going about his S.Hoax work quietly prior to Feb 11, not making for any issues in their partnership arrangement. DS can figure all this out, and/or she can call WH and ask him for details. But her choice to post her entirely 'speculative' & defamatory nonsense publicly instead, speaks to her disingenuousness & her S.Hoax AGENDA.
DS's "... if he fabricated a business, did he also fabricate the story about the local homicide detectives and sheriff's deputies coming to his house to threaten him? Maybe he just saw them at the local supermarket and said hi. ..." noise is even more disgraceful. Amazing how Delphi-Deanna magically, rhetorically morphed last week's events wrt her Mar 4 WH show & WH's CSI business closing, into publicly 'suggesting' that WH's business was somehow a 'fabrication'; and then how she magically further morphs that completely unsubstantiated 'rumor' she just made up, into suggesting that therefore WH is lying about the police visits to his FL home. :(
During their Feb 18 radio interview, WH told Dave Gahary the names of 2 of the police officers who'd come to his home, based upon the business cards they'd left with him. Did 'Honest S.Hoax Truth Seeker, Delphi-Deanna' follow up on this, calling WH's local PD and verifying their visit(s)? Or, did she publicly shoot the S.Hoax Truth messenger first, and ask questions later, if at all? :rolleyes:
Notice above, DS gave *ZERO* attention to WH's S.Hoax questions in her Mar 9 show; she only launched her own fabricated rumors & ad-hom smears against the S.Hoax-Truth Messenger. Even the "police visits" matter is separate from WH's S.Hoax questions. Though the police visits certainly do speak to the "guilty demeanor" which zion.media.gov have exhibited for the past ~15 months since their orchestration of the S.Hoax charade.
One nice thing is, with just one small tweak, we can re-invert DS's Flip the Script & Project spiel below, such that she spells out her pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribe'shttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 game, in plain & simple language:
" The one thing that I note, whether it was during the "debates" or on a radio program, those who believe the Joosh-controlled media and Joosh-controlled "government reports" narrative of Sandy Hook, never change their views about any of the issues, even when presented with contradictory evidence or when someone answers their questions. Perhaps these people are not really looking for answers. They just wish to impose their views on the population. People who research regularly change their minds as they discover additional data. Change agents do not do that. "
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Host Rodney Martin has posted a 1 hour show he did today with guest Delphi-Deanna™.
Sandy Hoax is the main topic of conversation. I don't have much to remark which isn't already spelled out in the replies above. This show was basically more of their same song & dance, Sunstein Sunstein Sunstein, cognitive infiltration, Flip the Script & Project, S.Hoax-skeptics don't really care about the truth, their mind is made up, Sunstein, those poor grieving S.Hoax parents, yada, yada, yada. Sunstein. Zzzzzzz.
I haven't been a close follower of RM, but he shows himself to be a member of the pro-zion.gov-S.Hoax-story, anti-S.Hoax-skepticism tribehttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 in this interview. I've posted 2 replies in Mami's comments. I'll paste the 3 current Mami's comments below, including the 2nd from NortherTruthSeeker. I expect for the 'Aleksa' and/or the Consti2tionalist/ExposeSupremacism/Rockclimber/George Jones/Ar Seeus barnyard of sockpuppets to chime in any minute with their usual ad-hom Flip-the-Script-&-Project spew.
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Pat Colo said...
Rodney @ 10:20:
"... and you have ran a show, and operated a show, with high class; and you've built the show with a tremendous audience and following, without the need of personal attacks, and tearing down other people; and I think that is very admirable. ..."
Oh dear. Prior to Deanna's Jan 15
'jumping the shark' re Sandy Hoax (ref:
http://tinyurl.com/mgoau3j ); I would have completely agreed with Rodney. But not since... :(
Critiquing Deanna's relentless ad-hom character attacks against Sandy Hoax investigator Wolfgang Halbig:
http://tinyurl.com/kx83ghs
March 12, 2014 at 8:55 PM
https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif Northerntruthseeker said...
Deanna Spingola? Who is she? I used to remember someone named Spingola that actually believed in fighting for the truth, but the person I see here is nothing more than a shadow of that person.
Rodney, You are doing a great job with your work, but you will only drag yourself down with any association with this person who shockingly thinks that anyone who searches for the real truth has an "agenda".
March 12, 2014 at 10:09 PM
https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gif Pat Colo said...
Rodney @ 51:00:
"... Okay, the actors. Show me where they're at! Find me a film credit! Find me, a Hollywood film, where they were an extra, whatever; show me where they live in Newtown, show me! They have not been able to do that Deanna. Their case is so pathetic. ..."
An Intellius search turns up a 62 year old Gene Rosen residing in Newtown with the Screen Actors Guild on his resume. 49 seconds; switch to full-screen to read text:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONAcNjoPo9M
video: Information surfaces that Sandy Hook witness Gene Rosen is FEMA
http://www.dailypaul.com/274050/vide...-rosen-is-fema
GENE ROSEN, CEO of Charter Communications Cable Advisory Council
http://www.cableadvisorycouncil.com/towns/index.htm
Did y'all see this? lol: Gene Rosen performs his sick act for Mexican TV Univision-IN SPANISH!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZP3-s0o7po
Sorry Rodney, but it's the
Pro-Jewish-Sandy-Hoax-Story tribe's case which is "so pathetic". To wit, on her
http://www.spingola.com/CensorshipOperation.html
webpage,
Delphi-Deanna™ uses the word "report" eighteen (18) times, in reference to zion.gov's official S.Hoax report, in "making her case" that Sandy Hoax took place as the Jewish controlled gov and media have purported, lol.
http://i.imgur.com/XLTJQbd.jpg
Critiquing Deanna's Sunday Mar 9 RBN show:
http://tinyurl.com/k85oprf
March 12, 2014 at 11:04 PM
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Off hand, I would only add, CRISIS ACTORS: Trained Players and Actors Making it Real.
And Amanda's thread, Thread: Hollywoodization of Terror, News, Media Fakery, Hoaxes; wherein I've posted about BBC's hoaxing up a fake Eeeevil Assad incendiary bombed a SCHOOL!:o "news" segment; and "Amputee actors train soldiers for combat", which I speculate depicts "Jeff Bauman" at 1:02.
But alas, Delphi-Deanna™ still has to stick with her prior Boston=Hoax position, putting her ever-so-awkwardly at ODDS with MCP & his/CIA's super-persuasive false flags book, coz she already sort of locked herself into that awkward position with the McGowan & Dr. K interviews above where she was in such vocal agreement re the Boston hoax. And just read that first DS transcription in the OP here, taken from her initial Jan 15 S.Hoax show, how twisted & baffling her "logic" is wrt why she thinks they hoaxed boston, but not S.Hoax! http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/s...20%2820%29.gif
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I've just posted to Mami's comments for the Mar 12 RM/DS show above:
Pat Colo said...
I've sort of been waiting for Delphi-Deanna™ to wave around the recently published New Yorker article alleging to be based on several interviews with the mysterious & elusive Peter Lanza. The same Peter Lanza whose spokesman is top PR flack & NY Democratic Party operative, Errol Cockfield Jr.
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/01/28...arty-operative
The author of the New Yorker's Peter Lanza propaganda piece is Andrew Solomon, the son of Howard Solomon, the (former as of Dec '13) CEO of pharmaceutical giant Forest Laboratories. Andrew is not only a Big Pharma happy-pill addict; he's also a CFR member.
March 12, 2014: The Sandy Hook-Psychopharma Connection
http://memoryholeblog.com/2014/03/12...rma-connection
It has been reported that Adam Lanza was prescribed Lexapro to deal with his issues, but stopped taking it after several days. The implication is that
if only he had taken his medication, perhaps the mass murder could have been prevented.
Sofia Smallstorm has maintained since early last year, that Big Pharma was licking their chops over S.Hoax; coz one foreseeable "Reaction" would be, mandatory "mental health screenings"; and with the hundreds of non-empirically-verifiable "diagnoses" which the shrinks have to choose from, Big Pharma could anticipate a big payday with a flood of new 'scripts for their snake oils. The gist of Andrew Solomon's "Lanza story" conveys the same message.
But Delphi-Deanna™ has routinely smeared S.Hoax researchers, suggesting since her Jan 15
Official Zion.gov S.Hoax Fable advocacy show, that the S.Hoax-skeptics/research community is a likely
Sunstein PsyOp, intended to protect & divert scrutiny away from Big Pharma for the mass-murderous/suicidal side effects of their various snake oils! And then Zion.gov orchestrated the Boston Hoax, to take scrutiny away from Sandy Hoax (which was really real just as Zion.gov has purported)!!
I'd say pill-popping Big Pharma/CFR boy Andrew Solomon's New Yorker "Peter Lanza" propaganda piece reveals the Big Pharma Agenda element of the S.Hoax PsyOp, beyond any reasonable doubt. The S.Hoax Gun-Grab Agenda was and IS also in play, of course.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...sh-gun-control
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...led-legal.html
Critique of Delphi-Deanna's™ Mar 12 appearance with Rodney Martin:
http://tinyurl.com/olxkokf
March 13, 2014 at 5:18 AM
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a couple more comments I just posted @ Mami's thread for the 4/9 DS/RM show;
https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifPat Colo said...
A few years old from another blogger; I don't care for them overall so you can joogle it up if you're curious; but they got this about right:
"Credibility Capital"
In the truth movement, the effectiveness of a genuine activist depends on their credibility. This is just as true for dishonest people posing as activists, whose intent is to thwart the exposure of the truth. If one is to mislead people, those people must believe what one is saying. People who lie constantly are seldom believed, and people who almost never lie can get away with a lie here and there-- these occasional lies amount to "spending" one's credibility capital. In the 9/11 truth movement, there are a number of individuals who stand out as "well-known" activists, whistleblowers, or researchers because of their actual accomplishments or simply because they are heavily promoted. At times, those who want the truth to remain hidden feel that the truth movement is coming too close to the real truth (as opposed to the "truth-like" alternatives like LIHOP ) and will spend some credibility capital by having someone who is generally well regarded in the movement promote something unpopular--like a LIHOP scenario. When these ploys backfire they can be very costly and result in an individual's credibility rating to drop, often preciptously.
Deanna had a robust Cred Capital Account going into January 2014, but it took a dive with her 1/15 show proclaiming her belief in the official jooz.gov narrative of their sloppy Sandy Hoax psyop.
http://tinyurl.com/mgoau3j
Her Cred Account continued to decline through her 4/whatever solo shows reading pre-prepared dissertations seeking to 'debunk' Sofia and her S.Hoax video, even laughably suggesting to KJohnson in their show together, that Sofia's 1995 "9/11 Mysteries: Demolitions" video actually
supported zion.gov's official 911 story! Nice try, lol
http://tinyurl.com/opf5sjo
Deanna's Cred Capital Account was drawn down to zero with her disgraceful so-called "interview" of Wolfgang Halbig on Mar 4.
http://tinyurl.com/odkvvod
Deanna's been deficit-spending in her Cred Capital Account with the joo credit card ever since; as her ad-hom assassination efforts against Halbig have continued
(Suite-Number-Gate Zzzzzzz; dis-characterizing his Feb 11 call in to her show; repeatedly suggesting Halbig is lying about the police visits; suggesting his Child Safety Institute business was a fabrication, yada yada). All to prop up the official jooz.gov story of their sloppy Sandy Hoax charade. :(
Those usurious interest payments to djooz are going to be a bitch.
March 14, 2014 at 8:36 AM
Pat Colo said...
Another oldie but goodie from that same blogger of dubious repute above who shall go nameless,
How the Fake Truth Movement Operates - a Thumbnail Sketch
The Apparent Principles of the Fake Truth Movement
I) Create 9/11 truth groups, entities, websites, films etc. and volunteer to take on leadership responsibilities.
II) Coordinate with other fake truthers to promote each other, i.e. 911Blogger promoting TruthAction promoting 9/11 Truth News, etc. Also known as creating ostensible diversity that masks actual uniformity.
III) Marginalize people and sites who insist on criticizing the official fake truth line.
IV) Create a fake "enemy truther" with an absurd agenda like Nico Haupt and have him attack you so as to gain sympathy from other truthers and create the impression that you are important and effective because you are the "enemy truther"'s enemy.
V) Further bolster your image as "good truthers" by dropping names and promoting "feelgood" causes like first responder health and glorifying the victims' families.
VI) Incessantly call for "unity" (meaning of course everyone united in agreement with the official fake truth line) and decry those who disagree as "dividers".
VII) When the truther rank and file show independent thinking and all coercive and manipulative tactics fail to "correct" it, go ahead and adapt to the new awareness with as little useful info as possible, i.e. limited hangout. This is necessary because the most important thing is maintaining credibility among newcomers and old timers alike. Whether this means embracing explosive demolition or even some discussion of Israeli complicity the idea is to keep the sheep in the flock from straying out of your sphere of influence and control.
VIII) Over time you will use the credibility you thereby preserve to move everyone back to the accepted line, i.e. LIHOP. You will be assisted in this by folks like Kucinich who will seem to be a great hope, or by shills like Steve Alten who you will also promote as a great hope.
IX) As the movement grows, you continue to pull back from damaging revelations in favor of LIHOP and other limited hangouts by relying on your network of "established (fake) truthers" to give the impression to newbies that those complaining about the retreat from real issues like explosive demolition and Israeli/Zionist involvement are zealots, bigots, etc.
X) Whenever possible, try to rehabilitate and recycle discredited fake truthers.
March 14, 2014 at 8:45 AM
