Lunar Wave (Hologram?) Events

Crrow777 answers questions from subscribers and gives his opinions on some topics. Not at the end yet but I think this is all of it. I don't think there is a subscribers only segment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em1S_ksSM5w

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In this clip I answer questions submitted to me by subs. The topics covered are as follows:

Chemtrails, NASA lies, moon illusion, flat earth, age of deception, the ruling class, royalty, the sun, death, fake celebrity death, death hoaxes, Satanists, the devil, song lyrics, politics, how to learn, belief as the enemy of knowing, dinosaurs, nuclear hoax, Chernobyl, Fukushima, orgon, aliens, our worlds shape, is space water, lunar wave, Charles Manson & OJ Simpson hoaxes, ancient books, history – true or false, procession of the equinox, astrology, financial system, satellite hoax, CERN, portals, the distance of stars sun & moon, Disney Land, eclipses, global warming hoax, Prince/Bowie fake deaths.

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There are 2 parts.

This is the episode on Numerology and Germatria? Very interesting discussion. Worth a listen. Most of the good stuff is in the first hour although good stuff in the 2nd hour also. I find I always pick up a few things through these interviews. Enabling me to join some more dots. Interesting how it's coming together now.

The numerology of events is quite astounding. These mass shooter events particularly. Celebrity deaths and several plenty of other events that have occurred. This interviewee has been looking at the numerology of older historical events. Patterns repeat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1iDMxF07MI

The interviewees channel is also worth a look. I have not checked out their blog but I think/hope that may be a faster way of absorbing the material they have produced.

They both have questions about the meaning of 911. How and when 911 became the emergency number, other correlations with the Twin Towers construction dates. Quite amazing. I would add from this blog installment by Rosette Delacroix - Jacobs ladder that the ancient name for earth is Ki and the numerology is 9 = I and 11 = K. Suggesting events scheduled for 911 are part of a war for Earth.

Anyway take a listen. All of these should probably be under a different thread title. I figure a lot of people won't bother because of no interest in lunar wave.

One last thing, Crrow777 makes the suggestion that this system we are in is a broken system. It might not have been broken at some time in the past but it is now and it is in a loop going around and around. Some people know it is a system and that it is broken but do not know how to fix it, return it to it's proper path. There are people who know what it is and they simply work this system as it is. I have more on this which I think is very compelling. Still compiling.

I should probably post these elsewhere because they are not lunar wave related. General discussions about the world around us or what we think is the world around us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqlbupnv1Pg
Topics covered in full show:
Monsters inc. encoding, 911, Muhammad Ali Hoax, Olympics fraud, Babylon, price of fame, deception through entertainment, subconscious programming, the death based system of deception, death, elite life spans possibly hundreds of years, dying at 74 years, death programming, retrograde medicine of the west, cannabis as medicine. Organic food, biblical life spans, Methuselah, Rothschild, driver’s license fraud, Interstellar movie, GMO, gene splicing seeds and food, Monsanto, Chemtrails, flicker rates, embedding intent into water, food packaging used to embed intention, Kosher food symbols, all food blessed by Rabbi, the awakening, apocalypse meaning, pagan meaning, information control, TV as the ultimate weapon, law of attraction, flat earth, distance of stars sun moon, Christianity, the Vatican, religious programming, worshiping idols, palm Sunday, the perverted calendar, than Vatican tracking and worshiping the sun, St. Andrew, St John, zodiac, tracking the sun, astrology, ISS fraud, astronomical distances lie, science as a religion, questioning gravity, encoding the sun in religion and movies, human vs. animal learning, language, corrupted Vatican, astrological ages, age of Aquarius – Taurus and Pisces, mentality creating reality, black cube, Saturn, time, Chronos, mental prison, false history, repeated history, predictive programming, programmed fear, celebrity genetic selection, royalties, rap music.

New episode of Crrow777radio interview: Hubble Telescope is a fraud. Has never been in space, could not go into space and could not stay there if it did.

Again, this one is very good. Some more pieces of puzzle. I've been preparing some info I want to post up. Not on the Luna subject but on another topic I posted here. I've revisited it and other stuff I have been reading has given me coincidental links to that subject. Adding some interesting detail and helping me better understand what I have been looking at. I hope to post on that subject soon.

Anyway, this guy is interesting. He has his own YT channel. Is a technically intelligent guy. this interview has no bad language. His YT material does have a fair bit of bad language. This is 1st hour. It has the best material. Crrow calls this episode 15 but he shuffled episodes and this came out as 13.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bwzD26t9eA

This guy worked out, very reasonably that the Hubble is a fraud. He likes to call people up and discuss the issues he discovers with them. So he doesn't discover something and rail on about it. He actually finds people in these agencies, Project leaders, agency heads etc and calls them up and quizzes them.

He discovered that the Hubble launch mission was never registered AND all space missions are registered by the UN. In support, the Hubble mission was a world record beating mission. The heaviests payload, the highest altitude. Those records are recorded as well, as are any missions that held the previous record or which take the record. No one has any record of the Hubble mission.

Also:
the Hubble telescope would barely fit the space shuttle bay.
The space shuttle does not go as high as the shuttle by about 150 miles. Shuttle around 150 miles, Hubble 300 miles.
Hubble has zero propulsion, retros or any momentum providing mechanism. It could not have been in orbit at 300 miles, dropped 150 miles to the shuttle for repairs and returned to 300 miles.
NASA math says all orbits degrade and all orbiting satellites fall from orbit over time. Hubble would have returned to earth years ago if it was there.
Sophia observatory is loaded into a 747 plane and flown at high altitude.
It is just slightly smaller than Hubble but is exact same design
Many images taken by Hubble were also taken on same day by Sophia. Sophia appears to be the source of the images attributed to Hubble
Hubble project head has been in charge for 25 years. Has never seen a live mission on hubble. Always delayed. Only think live is telemetry. After 25 years Project head cannot say 100% that Hubble is up there.
Hubble should be visible from ISS, but has never been sighted from there. It has solar panel wings and is seen from Earth by amateurs and NASA says so.
NASA says it reflects sun light at night which is why it's visible.
Guy claims they are using balloons, mainly launched from Antarctic
Satellites are tethered some hundreds of meters or some distance. Had some answers on why balloons can't be seen
ISS trajectory and altitude changes significantly and matches that of tracked balloons in highest reaches of the atmosphere
There was some data he had that indicated satellites are launched, come down and relaunched on a fairly consistent cycle and trajectory
He asked several HAM operators who track satellites to keep a watch for periods where the satellite should be detectable based on it being a satellite and they weren't
HAM operators confirmed cycles that match the balloon launch timing data

There's more that I can't recall. oh, Google has a Balloon Satellite program called googloon or something. https://www.google.com/loon

If you want to listen to Part 2 of Episode 13, the interviewee has posted it on his YT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OqwCIhp1NQ

Not sure that's the done thing as Crrow777 usually puts the second hour behind a paywall.

I guess I need to come up with a new thread for these as no one is catching them. they are not dealing with lunar wave.

Another enlightening episode. This a second interview with the SageSigmaUnbound guy. They had an earlier discussion I linked here. Both are worth listening to.

This new one is mainly a Q & A. Some great topics discussed. Mainly to do with finding the truth but also touching on the Pythagorean objects/elements, THE CUBE s Moon energy flows. Saturn, Kronos. Time being the prison of man - That one is interesting because the Bible says do not track the celestial bodies, do not track time. For many years I stopped wearing a watch and didn't bother too much with exact time.

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Aleister Crowley, brexit, Theosophy, Blavatsky, JPL, Jack Parsons, Beginnings of NASA, Homunculus, moonchild, Pythagorean school of thought, Monad, the Duad, the Triad, works Plato, Aristotle, Greek philosophers, The cube, Space as water, Earth as closed system, Firmament, solstices/equinoxes, color by mass media, Color purple (Prince hoax), Mass shooting hoaxes, Free masons, Weather forecasting, Chemtrails, Olympics, TV & MOVIES, engineered society dependent upon fear, cryptids, Sasquatch, the Mothman, Video games, World population, Life spans of the ruling class, PREDICTING DALLAS HOAX

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I think Crrow knows a fair bit more than he shares sometimes.

First hour of two. The content is evenly split. No one half has better discussion than the other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhOYjqxyzgA

These are audio btw,

Episode 16.

A general chit chat. Lots of topics and an interesting discussion. Especially the parts on treating cancer. Cannabis and the Gerson method. I wonder how you make cannabis oil? I've heard of it a fair bit but I have no idea how these kinds of things are made. Seems simpler to go the Gerson method route, although I get the idea you need to avoid using cutting and trashing methods to extract the juice. I was really just wondering if cannabis oil was made the same way, as a kind of juice?

Here is the Topic list:
Medical Cannabis, Illegalization of cannabis, Race conflict, Propaganda, Cocaine fiends, Reefer Madness, Allopathic medicine, Retrograde – backwards medicine, Oil’s influence on Medicine, Traditional medicine, Prohibition, outlawing real treatments, preventing effective cancer cures, alcohol, Cure for cancer, Gerson method, plant juice treatments, flushing the liver, tinctures, hash, false teaching in schools about cannabis, is cow milk damaging, Cancer, Zodiac cancer, engineered cancer, spell craft disease, Bowies cancer death and symbol, black mass cancer, Himalayan salt, malnutrition, making proven cancer cures illegal, lack of diet prescription in medicine, we are what we eat, tainted food, aspartame, fluoride, Pineal gland, spiritual growth, death based system controlling medicine, anti Gerson propaganda from Hollywood, encoded wordplay, the power of intention, imagination, Richard C Hoagland, moon landing propaganda, fake Pluto mission, danger of video games, subliminal messaging in media, the Fascist symbols in congress, the Truman show, e pluribis unum, Greek, Latin, predictive movies, the fall of US auto, gas shortage, Rodney King hoax, rap is social engineering, witnessing against life, false death, false shooting ramp up, Paris hoax, baton rouge hoax, inability to think, damaged brain function, ego, human learning, human discernment, iodine, calcification of the pineal gland by fluoride, organic food, chemtrails, a hidden land mass, secretly adding stuff to food, GMO, Countries that stop GMO, The Internet informing the false events.

First hour:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMu09KZpsj0

yesterday I stumbled across a USB Telescope camera. Was looking at new outdoor security cameras. It was an odd coincidence because a) I have been listening to the lunar wave and rockets don't go into space guys when they do post stuff on topic which is infrequent and b) they use DSLR's attached to Telescopes to film.

Seems DSLRs are the go to tool for Video bloging on YT and attaching to telescopes either directly to the telescope to use it as a telephoto or piggy back it onto the telescope.

Now I discover you can buy a small-ish USB camera which does away with the DSLR body and also screws onto the telescope. Has direct interface to a PC etc.

I go looking for some reviews and demonstration videos. I find this one from 2 years ago. What did the guy film? ?You guessed it. I also notice Rethinking the Universe found this one just a month ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8GRQpEv1NE

Would be interesting to see if he filmed any thing else like this.
This is one of the cameras in question: https://astronomy-imaging-camera.com...3-0/asi1600mc/
Not cheap but cheaper than a DSLR unit.

Here is a new Lunar Wave captured January 4 2017. You can see it start on the lower left rim of the moon. The wave travels from bottom left to top right. From about 7 o'clock to 1 o'clock. Look to the limb of the moon (very edge) for see the ripple disturbing the curve of the moon.

I needed to replay it several times to see the wave running across the surface but once I got my eye in, it is a very clear example. It fits the pattern of 2 waves in close succession.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsVm99ur5lg

There is something else about the moon - craters on the moon that has just come to light...by someone studying the craters. I'll post about it in the Cosmology thread. But this video shows the surface very clearly which might be useful when considering this idea about the craters. Moon impact craters may be hexagonal in shape

more analysis and comparison of the recent 2017 lunar wave capture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuM-FD4vEdM

Another recorded Lunar wave, in 2 parts.

P1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsAZwiTXTrk

P2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khaLE9KGELY

Some other interesting things: Closeups of planes flying overheard, Florida barge canal : water : curvature : horizon - Bedford level experiment confirmation, trial run.
Venus waning images.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5Y...MDc4N2Q/videos

Glass watch this ASAP!!!

Why is the moon bigger than earth when observed from earth than earth observed from the moon?? NASA trick for sure that could destroy moon landing overnight. Right???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpAYAqgNsMs


earth should be wayyyyyyy bigger
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=...e-moon.jpg&f=1

Have not looked at the video yet But I did raise the issues highlighted by the picture of earth. Not sure if it was this thread, Flat Earth or Have we been to the moon? threads. I did some basic math. To my reckoning the volume of the Earth is 13 times greater than the Moons. So 13 Moons will Fit inside the earths sphere. On a 2D basis, such as looking at the Earth in that picture. The Earth would be 4 times the size of the moon. So 4 Moon "disks" would fit inside 1 Earth "disk". So in my mind, based on that, the Earth should fill a much larger portion of view than it appears to. It really should look larger.

Does that image show an earth 4 times larger than the moon appears from earth? I don't think so but I will admit it does look quite large. Certainly larger than your average full moon looks, although probably about the same size as a super moon looks.

Someone (I forget who) raised the question of perspective and at the time I disagreed with them. Now I think they have a point in that perspective is a big factor but I still think the sizes are not correct. I don't think the Earth is shown as moon size (1/4 earth size) but I also don't think it appears 4 times the size of the moon.

Edit: I just started the video and the first thing it shows is that earth from moon image. It's clear the picture you linked has been zoomed and cropped. SO everything I said above... I'm now going to back away from. It does look about the same size as the moon does from Earth.

Edit 2: Those are 2 different moon to earth images

I think the guy he gets to explain the Earth Moon distance has dropped off Youtube. He used to do quite a few videos and also live casts/round tables. Then he suddenly stopped. He did one where it seemed to prove hubble is not really an orbiting telescope but a telescope on an aircraft. There are a couple aircraft mounted telescopes out there. But basically people can shoot the same quality images as hubble but from the ground. However with some sluething he came up with some reasonably convincing suggestion that the hubble is not in space at all. Not long after that he seemed to stop posting. Planate Veritas - Hubble on a plane

Edit 3: At minute ~7:00 it shows Earth from Moon with a Moon Lander in the frame. The earth is far too small for that to be real.

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Originally Posted by singular_me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpAYAqgNsMs

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The product of someone who cannot understand relatively simple geometry.

The return to medieval "astrophysics" has occurred for a preventable reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N9nVLXMhPc

Idiots savant + webcam = most YouTube videos

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Originally Posted by Glass

Edit 3: At minute ~7:00 it shows Earth from Moon with a Moon Lander in the frame. The earth is far too small for that to be real. To my reckoning the volume of the Earth is 13 times greater than the Moons

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that is what I meant... case point: they NEVER went to the moon. This is the best argument ever, IMHO. Earth should be enormous in the picture

You missed the point made in that video.

However, the moon is not what we think it really is and the Lunar Wave OP follows that possibility

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Originally Posted by crimethink

The product of someone who cannot understand relatively simple geometry.

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Originally Posted by singular_me

You missed the point made in that video.

However, the moon is not what we think it really is and the Lunar Wave OP follows that possibility

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No he didn't, any point made in that video is based on delusions. He doesn't even understand how the optics in his own expensive camera works. The fact that he is in possession of such a camera, tells us that society is rewarding abject stupidity. A person that stupid should starve to death, not being able to spread this bull over the internet. And that goes for any other minion who aids in the dissemination of this crap.

Stand outside on a moonlit night put your fist between your eyes and the moon with your arms stretched out. Now you can't see the moon, does this prove that your fist is bigger than the moon? With the reasoning this man is exhibiting re basic geometry, you may very well believe this is the case.

If so I suggest you accelerate the fist towards your eyes, it will not damage you the slightest, and if it hurts repeat until it doesn't.

You are only trolling, aren't you?

hahaha... you dont agree that there could be a controversy, so what?

but from there just go ahead and accuse me of trolling... the NWO loves it!

I agree with Glass, earth is far too small in the pic

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Originally Posted by Neuro

No he didn't, any point made in that video is based on delusions. He doesn't even understand how the optics in his own expensive camera works. The fact that he is in possession of such a camera, tells us that society is rewarding abject stupidity. A person that stupid should starve to death, not being able to spread this bull over the internet. And that goes for any other minion who aids in the dissemination of this crap.

Stand outside on a moonlit night put your fist between your eyes and the moon with your arms stretched out. Now you can't see the moon, does this prove that your fist is bigger than the moon? With the reasoning this man is exhibiting re basic geometry, you may very well believe this is the case.

If so I suggest you accelerate the fist towards your eyes, it will not damage you the slightest, and if it hurts repeat until it doesn't.

You are only trolling, aren't you?

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Originally Posted by Neuro

You are only trolling, aren't you?

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I don't think so. She is a Lunatic. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunatic#History

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Originally Posted by singular_me

the NWO loves it!

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Yes, because if we stop believing the Moon is self-luminous green cheese, the New World Order is defeated. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by crimethink

Yes, because if we stop believing the Moon is self-luminous green cheese, the New World Order is defeated. :rolleyes:

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never mentioned the self-luminous aspect, but it is in the title of the video and cannot remove it. I was addressing the size of earth vs size of moon... goes back to my first post to Glass.

The moon allegedly being an hologram is not new... dont know what to make of it but I appreciate non conventional input

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Originally Posted by singular_me

hahaha... you dont agree that there could be a controversy, so what?

but from there just go ahead and accuse me of trolling... the NWO loves it!

I agree with Glass, earth is far too small in the pic

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And your fist is obviously bigger than the moon...

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Originally Posted by singular_me

never mentioned the self-luminous aspect, but it is in the title of the video and cannot remove it. I was addressing the size of earth vs size of moon... goes back to my first post to Glass

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You really are a moron!

Nasa claims this footage is real and if so it clearly demonstrates a problem with the Earth Moon size relationship seen in other images. I've posted this one before as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdhQsHbWTs

This is what you should see in terms of the size of earth in the sky when looking from the moon...based on the Math... which I posted in one of the other threads - have we been to the moon or FE. asking someone to double check it for me. Anyone? Please feel free to take a look at it. The Moon disk Earth Disk ratio should be about ~4 to 1 if I got it right.

From that video the Earth is clearly significantly larger in the Moons sky, to the point of dominating most of it. Compare that to the image you posted and it's non "zoomed in" source, and its' clear something is not right with the imagery. Some of the examples or all of them.

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Originally Posted by Neuro

You really are a moron!

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yeah, caught projecting what I am NOT saying in this particular post, then I am a moron ;D

the NWO loves this form of censorship

a guy on the video that you just embedded

Published on Aug 6, 2015
Another junk piece from NASA. This time, they supposedly caught the new noon crossing Earth's path. A close look reveals another failure. But, at least they didn't paint the earth in this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mmfM-fEiec


he has another one: The Moon - Is NOT What We've Been Told! , which seems to support the OP

still dont know what to think but it raises serious questions

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Originally Posted by Glass

Nasa claims this footage is real and if so it clearly demonstrates a problem with the Earth Moon size relationship seen in other images. I've posted this one before as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdhQsHbWTs

This is what you should see in terms of the size of earth in the sky when looking from the moon...based on the Math... which I posted in one of the other threads - have we been to the moon or FE. asking someone to double check it for me. Anyone? Please feel free to take a look at it. The Moon disk Earth Disk ratio should be about ~4 to 1 if I got it right.

From that video the Earth is clearly significantly larger in the Moons sky, to the point of dominating most of it. Compare that to the image you posted and it's non "zoomed in" source, and its' clear something is not right with the imagery. Some of the examples or all of them.

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I' have already rethought everything I thought I knew about US space exploration. It's been quite a wake up call, I can tell you that. I go back a long way and there's a lot to ponder

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Originally Posted by Glass

Nasa claims this footage is real and if so it clearly demonstrates a problem with the Earth Moon size relationship seen in other images. I've posted this one before as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdhQsHbWTs

This is what you should see in terms of the size of earth in the sky when looking from the moon...based on the Math... which I posted in one of the other threads - have we been to the moon or FE. asking someone to double check it for me. Anyone? Please feel free to take a look at it. The Moon disk Earth Disk ratio should be about ~4 to 1 if I got it right.

From that video the Earth is clearly significantly larger in the Moons sky, to the point of dominating most of it. Compare that to the image you posted and it's non "zoomed in" source, and its' clear something is not right with the imagery. Some of the examples or all of them.

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It is truly sci-fi out there, has always been, and that is why human history and space records are corrupt

we can walk along the shore and watch the ocean with a soothing feeling, but it clearly is a false perception, look at the planet.

So when we look at the cosmos, we should keep this in the back of our minds.

Nothing is like it seems

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I' have already rethought everything I thought I knew about US space exploration. It's been quite a wake up call, I can tell you that. I go back a long way and there's a lot to ponder

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Just to address the question of orbital distance from Earth to Moon during the moons elliptical orbit and how this affects the apparent size of the moon viewed from Earth and conversely the size of the Earth viewed from the moon.

This image shows a comparison in size between the moons apogee and perigee (farthest vs closest).
http://en.es-static.us/upl/2015/09/s...7769430768.jpg
Source: EarthSky.org

Even taking into account magnification of the telescope and/or camera it's clear the variation is not substantial enough to be a possible answer to why there is such a discrepancy in the images we have seen. I think who ever created the earth from the moon image simply used the moons size in our sky as their model without taking into account actual difference in size of the bodies.

By actual size I should say "claimed size" because something might be very very small or far far away (sic),

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Originally Posted by Glass

Just to address the question of orbital distance from Earth to Moon during the moons elliptical orbit and how this affects the apparent size of the moon viewed from Earth and conversely the size of the Earth viewed from the moon.

This image shows a comparison in size between the moons apogee and perigee (farthest vs closest).
Source: EarthSky.org

Even taking into account magnification of the telescope and/or camera it's clear the variation is not substantial enough to be a possible answer to why there is such a discrepancy in the images we have seen. I think who ever created the earth from the moon image simply used the moons size in our sky as their model without taking into account actual difference in size of the bodies.

By actual size I should say "claimed size" because something might be very very small or far far away (sic),

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Sure, fair enough... but I am not even taking any lens into consideration but the naked eye. Anybody standing on the moon would see a gigantic earth. And this proves that the moon landing pix are utterly fake.
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=...d-0037.jpg&f=1

https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetar...11_44_6642.jpg

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Originally Posted by Glass

Nasa claims this footage is real and if so it clearly demonstrates a problem with the Earth Moon size relationship seen in other images. I've posted this one before as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdhQsHbWTs

This is what you should see in terms of the size of earth in the sky when looking from the moon...based on the Math... which I posted in one of the other threads - have we been to the moon or FE. asking someone to double check it for me. Anyone? Please feel free to take a look at it. The Moon disk Earth Disk ratio should be about ~4 to 1 if I got it right.

From that video the Earth is clearly significantly larger in the Moons sky, to the point of dominating most of it. Compare that to the image you posted and it's non "zoomed in" source, and its' clear something is not right with the imagery. Some of the examples or all of them.

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It isn't real photos of Moon transiting earth, every single image of earth is the same still photo which is a 3D composite. Look at the cloud systems, they don't change at all, they are only rotating the 3D composite image of earth.

But, just because these images are faked, doesn't mean that the earth is flat.

However the proportions of the moon transiting the earth at a million miles of distance or so, is correct though. The moons diameter is about 1/4 of earths. Objects appear closer to each other when they actually are when viewed from long distances with a magnifying camera lens.

Since earths diameter is about 4x that of the moon, your notion that earth would cover a huge part of the sky from the moon is easily debunked. Take a photo of Goldie's fist as she shakes it towards the sky, at a mile distance, with the fist right between the strong magnifying camera and the moon. Now the fist would appear small vs the moon disc, and very near to the moon. Would you assume from this photo, that if you, against better judgement for sure, walks up the mile to where Goldie's fist are, would see a Moon that is covering a large part of the sky, which the photo taken a mile away would imply?

Simply the diameter of the earth in the sky from the moon would appear approximately 4 times bigger than the moon from the earth. If we ever could go there and observe it which I very much doubt we did.

Sheesh this is VERY basic stuff in understanding spatial proportions.

:).... until then I will continue to take it with a grain of salt

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Originally Posted by Neuro

Simply the diameter of the earth in the sky from the moon would appear approximately 4 times bigger than the moon from the earth. If we ever could go there and observe it which I very much doubt we did.

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Originally Posted by singular_me

a grain of salt

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Which likely has more common sense than you.

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:).... until then I will continue to take it with a grain of salt

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You won't, the phrase in itself suggests you base your judgement on reasoning. The size and distance to the moon was well known long prior to any space programs, accurately calculated using not particularly complicated trigonometrical calculations. I assume you are not sure about trigonometry when you say you are going to take "it" with a "grain of salt". Essentially you are rejecting Pythagoras most important contribution to humanity.

Just because the photo's are doctored doesn't necessarily make the proportions faulty.

Crrow777 show back to it's roots and talking about what equipment you need to film the moon. Some suggestions on where to start and where you might want to go, upgrade wise.

First hour:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsxGMx7cr4A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsxGMx7cr4A

Talks about a fairly cheap very high zoom camera being sold out there for around $500 - $600. Taking a look here, I've seen it at quite good prices. About the same in our dollars as in USD which is unusual. It is a non detachable lens which might be limiting if you want to connect it to a telescope but it does have a very high zoom which you would need a very big telephoto or a telescope to achieve anyway. Telescope brands, sizes, lens connectors, tracking etc.

Nikon Coolpix p900. Even if you're not interested in the moon... you might be interested in the camera. It does have very impressive zoom.

He has another new show. Saturnian Vatican, Jesuits and Roots of Western Religion
Not listened yet, 1st hour here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c02iVaQCiLY

Edit: Listening to 2nd hour of Filming the moon program. Talks about observation stories of Jupiter being occulted by the moon and that Jupiter goes black but can still be seen while it transits "behind" the moon. I've heard the story before but never looked for sources of the stories.

Also talks about Moon Eclipses of the Sun and being unable to see the moon until it starts to cross the lim (limb ? not sure of the words spelling) of the Sun. I would call it the rim or edge of the Sun. Questions why, if the Moon is in the same day lit sky as the Sun, why it can't be seen, with the sun light apparently shinning on it as it heads towards earth. Logically it should appear as a shadow in the sky even on it's approach but cannot be seen until the occultation occurs. I don't know anything about this but heard him say this before. Would be interesting to verify during a moon eclipse of the sun.

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Originally Posted by Neuro

It isn't real photos of Moon transiting earth, every single image of earth is the same still photo which is a 3D composite. Look at the cloud systems, they don't change at all, they are only rotating the 3D composite image of earth.

But, just because these images are faked, doesn't mean that the earth is flat.

However the proportions of the moon transiting the earth at a million miles of distance or so, is correct though. The moons diameter is about 1/4 of earths. Objects appear closer to each other when they actually are when viewed from long distances with a magnifying camera lens.

Since earths diameter is about 4x that of the moon, your notion that earth would cover a huge part of the sky from the moon is easily debunked. Take a photo of Goldie's fist as she shakes it towards the sky, at a mile distance, with the fist right between the strong magnifying camera and the moon. Now the fist would appear small vs the moon disc, and very near to the moon. Would you assume from this photo, that if you, against better judgement for sure, walks up the mile to where Goldie's fist are, would see a Moon that is covering a large part of the sky, which the photo taken a mile away would imply?

Simply the diameter of the earth in the sky from the moon would appear approximately 4 times bigger than the moon from the earth. If we ever could go there and observe it which I very much doubt we did.

Sheesh this is VERY basic stuff in understanding spatial proportions.

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I'm fairly certain I didn't say anything there about the earth being flat?

And yes it's a composite as nearly all of them are... which is part of the point..... which you continually skirt around and try and insert other things that you argue against rather than admitting you agree. NASA are just making shit up and people people have no critical thought capacity... which is the whole point of the discussion. AND the atmospheric magnification effect won't account for the earth disk appearing to be the same size as the moon disk.... when its a factor of 4 times larger, not 4 percent, not 40 percent BUT 4 times +.

If you were standing on the moon that is in that NASA transiting video and looking at the earth where is is, it will fill the sky as it appears to in that video. It should dominate the moon sky on the side facing the earth. That is how it should look in other images apparently taken from the moon and they simply don't. So again NASA are just making shit up. Some of it or all of it. I'd suggest all of it and just sometimes they produce something that has plausible perspective. I guess at least we can agree on that if not the specifics of "the shit".

And to be 100% clear I said Disk meant what we see as a 2D view in the sky not a 3D volume (spherical) in which case the earth is ~13 times larger in volume (13 if IIRC).

edit: maybe I should correct this and call it Disc instead of Disk.

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Which likely has more common sense than you.

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yeah, according to NASA pix, earth appears to have the same size than the moon's from the same distance between the two

that's common sense ;D


Good job Glass

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Originally Posted by Glass

He has another new show. Saturnian Vatican, Jesuits and Roots of Western Religion
Not listened yet, 1st hour here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c02iVaQCiLY

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I've listened to the first hour of this. They discuss exactly the things I raised in Cheka's thread on Baal tribute here.

Also deals with Jesuits and their oath to destroy all Protestants. Catholic church is focused on ancient babylonian deities in practice while mouthing worship of God and JC.