Obamacare: A Deception - A Detailed Analysis - Paul Craig Roberts

mamboni are you seeing jobs lose in health care yet over the new health care laws ? why i am asking just heard from a friend thats been working in a doctor office and 10 are being lay off . and she has been doing lab work for over 20 years

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mamboni are you seeing jobs lose in health care yet over the new health care laws ? why i am asking just heard from a friend thats been working in a doctor office and 10 are being lay off . and she has been doing lab work for over 20 years

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No, I haven't seen job losses. But I'm in a hospital setting. I'll ask some of the docs if they are laying off staff in 2014 because of Obamacare.

thanks doc , keep us all updated on this

Little-Known Tax Funding Obamacare



Posted: Nov 14, 2013 9:23 AM EST
Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:19 PM EST
By Ronica Cleary, @ChasingRonica

http://www.my9nj.com/story/23967715/...ding-obamacare




Franklin Lakes, New Jersey (My9NJ) -
The Affordable Care Act or Obamacare seems to be in the headlines every day because of all of the problems surrounding the launch. And while most realize the law is funded in part by the individual mandate and penalty tax, it is also being funded in ways that are not discussed as much in the media.

Luxury real estate broker Ron Aioso says there is a tax that is rarely discussed that also helps fund Obamacare. It is a tax on high-income taxpayers when they sell their homes.

Franklin Lakes, N.J. was listed on Forbes.com in 2010 as one of "America's Most Expensive ZIP Codes", with a median home price of $1.3M.

Aioso says homeowners in a neighborhood like this could really be impacted by the Obamacare tax.

“Where we are today in a luxury area, you look and you see this home behind me, somebody like this is really affected,” he said.

If you are single with an adjusted gross income of $200,000 or file jointly with an income of $250,000 or more, you may be impacted. Once you sell your home, any profits over the first $500,000 are already subject to a capital gains tax. And now those profits will have an additional 3.8% tax to fund Obamacare.

Aioso noted that there is also a lot of confusion surrounding this tax and many homeowners know little about it.
“I think more than anything we need some education on it so people fully understand what is this 3.8%? What am I paying?” Aioso said.


mamboni asks: what the fuck do home sales have to do with healthcare? This is blatant socialism. I hope people sell their homes at discounted prices and use money under-the-table to beat this unconstitutional tax grab.

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mamboni asks: what the fuck do home sales have to do with healthcare?

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You know as well as anyone that 'healthcare'* is merely the cover for social control/engineering and the re-distribution of wealth/the proceeds of one's own productivity.

*Collectivist hive mindset: You're against healthcare being available to everyone, as a 'human right'(!)?? WTF is wrong with you, you selfish asshole?? I cannot wait until your generation dies off.

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You know as well as anyone that 'healthcare'* is merely the cover for social control/engineering and the re-distribution of wealth/the proceeds of one's own productivity.

*Collectivist hive mindset: You're against healthcare being available to everyone, as a 'human right'(!)?? WTF is wrong with you, you selfish asshole?? I cannot wait until your generation dies off.

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Agreed! To wit, the ACA law requires doctors to ask patients if they own firearms. This is the fucking government: sneaky, underhanded, always grabbing for more power, and never ever to be trusted.

House Democratic leaders won’t apologize for Obamacare promise


Pelosi says the president's words in his promise were 'absolutely' precise.

| John Shinkle/POLITICO


By SEUNG MIN KIM |11/14/13 6:45 PM EST President Barack Obama issued a rare presidential apology when he expressedremorse for promising to Americans that they could keep their insurance plans if they liked their current coverage.


Don’t expect the same “I’m sorry” from House Democratic leaders.

In a news conference Thursday after a meeting with White House officials,the top four Democrats said they won’t apologize for that promise, insteaddefending the language of the Affordable Care Act — their prized legislativeachievement.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who shepherded Obamacarethrough the House as speaker, said Obama was “very gracious” in making thatapology but that the president’s words – in the context of the law – were“absolutely” precise.

“There’s nothing in the Affordable Care Act that says that your insurancecompany should cancel you,” she told reporters. “That’s not what the AffordableCare Act is about. It simply didn’t happen.”

She continued that she did not make a similar statement to her constituents,noting that she “would have if I ever met anybody that liked his or her plan,but that was not my experience.”


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/house-democrats-obamacare-promise-99899.html#ixzz2kipO8tNE



mamboni comments: this is what happens when you fill government with fucking lawyers that double-talk, parse words to the extreme, and when necessary lie. If you are fooled, screwed, fleeced or bamboozled by them it's your own damn fault according to them. Pelosi is a C. U. N. T.***


***C.U.N.T., Corrupt Unscrupulous Nauseating Trollop

Second O’Keefe video exposes more Obamacare Navigators telling people to commit fraud

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Second O’Keefe video exposes more Obamacare Navigators telling people to commit fraud

November 14, 2013 | Joe Schoffstall - 737 Comments




James O’ Keefe’s Project Veritas has released a second video showing even more Obamacare Navigators in Texas suggesting fraud and deceit to undercover reporters — despite some in the mainstream media calling the first exposé an “isolated incident.”

“Today, Project Veritas released a second investigation exposing more Obamacare navigators counseling applicants to lie and cheat the health care system by erroneously reporting income status, health history, and more,” Project Veritas wrote.

They continue, “Critics said the first video was an isolated incident so we decided to visit with even more navigators funded by your American tax dollars. What we found was disturbing and showed a clear pattern of fraud through the Obamacare navigator program.”

Within the new video, Obamacare Navigators in Texas yet again counsel the reporters to lie in order to avoid higher premiums.

“To get a lower premium, I wouldn’t include it…that’s my money,” Obamacare Navigator Kris McCray from Change Happens in Houston, Texas, advises the reporter of the cash she ‘earned’ on the side but failed to report in her taxes. “I would just try to get that number as low as you can. It would help you qualify for more stuff as far as aid and stuff like that.”


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“Do you report this on your taxes?” asks Claudia Flamand of the North Texas Area Community Health Center in Fort Worth, Texas. After the reporter says that he does not, she responds by telling him not to worry. “So if you don’t report it…It’s the same with people who clean houses…Yeah, they don’t report the taxes, they don’t report that income,” she says.

That’s not all.

“So if you don’t claim the income, you don’t have to,” a Navigator from the Community Health Centers of South Central Texas advises. “Are you sure they won’t find out?” asks the undercover reporter. The Navigator reassures that no one will find out.

From the looks of it, these are hardly the isolated incidents that some have claimed.


*To see the full unedited Project Veritas videos, click here. To see the first video in their investigation, click here.

So once all the bugs are worked out on Obamacare and all the sick people, people with pre-existing conditions, people that don't take care of themselves and need a lot of treatment, the one's that have signed up, are paying the same rate as healthy people that take good care of themselves, that don't need treatment...what's next? Auto insurance reform?

I'm sure a lot of people that get in accidents often, have DUI's on their record and don't maintain their vehicles would like to pay the same rate as people that maintain their vehicles and don't have accidents, or DUI's.

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So once all the bugs are worked out on Obamacare and all the sick people, people with pre-existing conditions, people that don't take care of themselves and need a lot of treatment, the one's that have signed up, are paying the same rate as healthy people that take good care of themselves, that don't need treatment...what's next? Auto insurance reform?

I'm sure a lot of people that get in accidents often, have DUI's on their record and don't maintain their vehicles would like to pay the same rate as people that maintain their vehicles and don't have accidents, or DUI's.

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When Obamacare costs explode, everyones premia will skyrocket higher. You can bank on that. That's what's coming.