new shooting: Newtown, Conn. details breaking

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Originally Posted by Bigjon

missinfo to discredit all the moonbat conspiracy theorists, maybe?

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I've been wondering about this a lot lately over the past year.

Toss in some unexplainable items on purpose, sit back, and watch it all unfold.

Slice a line right down the middle...left/right paradigm. The "crazies" v.s. the "sane" people.

I did a stint on GLP for about 4 months (do yourself a favor, and don't ever post there). Some of the shills there are totally paid, and the other end of the spectrum is rubber room insane. Both ends might be on the time clock for all I know (probably), but definitely not all.

What I did learn is how effective it is at destroying the logic out of a situation by reducing it to circular chaos, while the perps just slip out through the back door.

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Originally Posted by joboo

I've been wondering about this a lot lately over the past year.

Toss in some unexplainable items on purpose, sit back, and watch it all unfold.

Slice a line right down the middle...left/right paradigm. The "crazies" v.s. the "sane" people.

I did a stint on GLP for about 4 months (do yourself a favor, and don't ever post there). Some of the shills there are totally paid, and the other end of the spectrum is rubber room insane. Both ends might be on the time clock for all I know, but definitely not all.

What I did learn is how effective it is at destroying the logic out of a situation by reducing it to circular chaos, while the perps just slip out through the back door.

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It's a good thing you're here at GSUS, to save us from ourselves.

Not sure if being sarcastic, but I often feel like I need to save myself. ;)

What I'm finding is somewhere in the middle of the spectrum of claims is usually found some pieces, or most of the truth (from all sides).

There are aspects of this story that don't pass the smell test at all, and of course the blatant gun grab agenda is a given, and we know there are paid actors in the news since the harley tshirt guy on 9II.

Faking the deaths for joo organ donations, or satanic rituals was a dead end for me. I couldn't make it pan out.

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Bullion something or other. I used the golden douchebag award on him, and buddy short circuited. Patcolo should remember it. It was pretty epic. JP also blew a gasket for a few days, and never really recovered.

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Bullion_Bob is the only Bullion name I remember. Was that you? As I recall he did get in it a little bit with Jooristic Person.

It sounds like we are getting some reliable at least second hand testimony that part of the media story is true. This still does not prove the lone gunman, the handguns only/bushmaster controversy, etc. It is unfortunate that we have to not trust the media and authorities so much!

They could have brought Lanza in the back door in one of those large garbage bins on wheels already "processed", and dumped him on the floor for all anyone knows. I find that equally as plausible. Was the guy running in the woods part of it, and botched the exit strategy? Don't know yet.

Why are they putting kooky contrived witnesses on TV...is it rush to get a story out, or something else?

NY times outed the one guy who claimed he was his uncle as a fraud, which sparked the police to put out a statement warning anyone who tries the same. They are supposed to be interviewing credible background checked witnesses. This is the least to be expected.

Do they want to lose viewership credibility on purpose over rushing a story out with flaky, suspicious witnesses, I don't know the answer to that yet.

I'm still not convinced (no offense Chad). None of the families' stories were believable. None of the stories about what happened in the school are believable. I'm going to keep looking into all of this as much as I can.

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Originally Posted by sunshine05

I'm still not convinced (no offense Chad). None of the families' stories were believable. None of the stories about what happened in the school are believable. I'm going to keep looking into all of this as much as I can.

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The other thing about the bodies. If they were truly all killed with .223, and Lanza only had pistols on him and the rifle was in the car...that would lead to a lot of bad possibilities.

keep on investigating it, is good. i'm just of the opinion that there are **some** dead children.

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Originally Posted by sunshine05

I'm still not convinced (no offense Chad). None of the families' stories were believable. None of the stories about what happened in the school are believable. I'm going to keep looking into all of this as much as I can.

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It is much in the official account that doesn't add up. Too many inconsistencies, but I think Chads account via his friend is correct. Children were killed...

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Originally Posted by chad

this didn't happen on the moon. can't somebody just drive over to the town and spend 1 day figuring out if all of these people & their kids really live there and are dead?

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Why would you need someone to drive over there, if your friend could verify?

Or don't you trust your friend?

In fact I say you don't.

i've know this woman for 20+ years, yes i trust her. i started this thread with a tip from her before this was even on the news. i'm not going to call her up and go "hey, can you go over to newton and interview family members, maybe get some polaroids of dead kids for me?"

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Originally Posted by joboo

They could have brought Lanza in the back door in one of those large garbage bins on wheels already "processed", and dumped him on the floor for all anyone knows. I find that equally as plausible. Was the guy running in the woods part of it, and botched the exit strategy? Don't know yet.

Why are they putting kooky contrived witnesses on TV...is it rush to get a story out, or something else?

NY times outed the one guy who claimed he was his uncle as a fraud, which sparked the police to put out a statement warning anyone who tries the same. They are supposed to be interviewing credible background checked witnesses. This is the least to be expected.

Do they want to lose viewership credibility on purpose over rushing a story out with flaky, suspicious witnesses, I don't know the answer to that yet.

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They have dumbed down, flaky viewers. They can do whatever they want. "It's on teevee, it must be true."

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Originally Posted by chad

"hey, can you go over to newton and interview family members, maybe get some polaroids of dead kids for me?"

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Why would you need her to do that?

You don't trust her.

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t is much in the official account that doesn't add up. Too many inconsistencies, but I think Chads account via his friend is correct. Children were killed...

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Which of course makes it all the more disgusting.
However, to blow their deception now, if indeed it is a deception, which seems very likely, will mean that they're murdering American kids for political gain.

This is so despicable that I can't imagine anyone who could claim it to be for the better. I'm thinking specifically of Madelaine Albrights's TV interview saying that 100,000 children dying as a consequence of war with Iraq was worth it....

Now they may, if caught, try to blame it on some outside terrorist rogue assassin cell, and while it may be indirectly true, it's OUR MEDIA and OUR PARAMILITARY and those who give them orders who will be directly to blame. No fucking excuses.
This is mass murder of the worst sort. This is democide. This is traitorous treason beyond any pall.

But anyway, you guys have been awesome. Especially sunshine05.... and I sincerely hope no one cares to continue to label her or anyone else here a moonbat or insane for their dogged journalistic perseverance in researching this thing, regardless of how weird it gets.

That shit pissed me off.

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Originally Posted by Horn

Why would you need her to do that?

You don't trust her.

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i wasn't referring to my need to see an investigation, i was referring to all of the "it's hollywood actors" people on youtube. i trust there are dead people in newton, ct.

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Originally Posted by chad

i wasn't referring to my need to see an investigation, i was referring to all of the "it's hollywood actors" people on youtube. i trust there are dead people in newton, ct.

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My impression is Homeland Security put the cap on it, and shuffled the real folks into the WPP.

You might at least ask her how her friend is doing...

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Originally Posted by Horn

My impression is Homeland Security put the cap on it, and shuffled the real folks into the WPP.

You might at least ask her how her friend is doing...

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will do. i'll check in with her later this evening.

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Originally Posted by Neuro

It is much in the official account that doesn't add up. Too many inconsistencies, but I think Chads account via his friend is correct. Children were killed...

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I think you almost have to believe that all 20 of them were killed or none of them were. The Emilie Parker thing is just too weird. I don't believe she even existed. They just photoshopped another child into that family photo. There are other families too where the sibling looks exactly like the child who allegedly died.

For some reason, I'm fixated on the buildings. Something is very strange in Monroe. The reason I'm looking at this so much is that I don't believe they moved the kids to this school in that amount of time and it was so secretive, no media allowed near the school. I noticed this morning that according to the tax records, the school was built in 1988 (Chalk Hill). The article with info supposedly from the historical society states that the school was built in 1969 and lists all these people in the article that claimed to have taught there way back. NONE of the addresses are right, the school websites are ghost sites. The elementary school info/news section hasn't been updated since 2009. Something is wrong. I don't know how they did this or why but things are not as they appear.

If it's true that Newtown was considering closing Head O'Meadow elementary due to low enrollment at the schools in Newtown, why wouldn't they have placed the kids into the other 3 elementary schools? Instead they moved them to a different town, a different school district?

Can anyone think of any reason why when you look up the address of SH school (and the other ones on Fan Hill) that people are listed, as if it's a residence? I have names and email addresses of people listed for these properties.

This is supposed to be the address for the old Chalk Hill school.

Attachment 4282

Records for 12 Dickinson Dr.

Attachment 4283Attachment 4284

Lots of registered sex offenders within a mile of the school too. What is up with this looking like a residential listing?

Isn't there some kind of law or policy to keep sex offenders away from schools?

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Originally Posted by Santa

Isn't there some kind of law or policy to keep sex offenders away from schools?

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Yes, there's supposed to be!

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Originally Posted by sunshine05

Can anyone think of any reason why when you look up the address of SH school (and the other ones on Fan Hill) that people are listed, as if it's a residence? I have names and email addresses of people listed for these properties.

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Maybe everyone was foreclosed on in the area, and all that is left is a ghost town?

How do you attach emails to physical address?

Geez Ms. Simonini has like Twelve residences.

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Originally Posted by chad

of course she did, as did countless others- it was an open casket funeral. my friend even saw the body at the funeral. that's why i don't get any of this. i even googled "open casket funeral" and it looks like there were lots of open casket funerals after the shooting. that's why i find this "all of the kids are alive" stuff to be crazy town.

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I did a startpage search for: <sandy hook "open casket"> and found interesting results.. but my skepticism lights are still flashing. The following all make some "open casket" ref:

Newtown Funeral Director Pasquale Folino Says Sandy Hook ...

Newtown Plans Funerals For Victims Of Sandy Hook Elementary ...

The undertaker for Sandy Hook victims opens up about 'week from ...

Newtown Holds First Funerals For Sandy Hook Victims « CBS Boston

6-year-old Sandy Hook victim James Mattioli laid to rest in Newtown ...

Funerals for Newtown massacre victims begin - Washington Post

Hundreds attend funerals for 2 Newtown children

Wrestling With Details of Noah Pozner's Killing < these nice joosh parents allege they were at the tattoo parlor the very next day getting tats in memory of Noah... :|~ and:

"... The details that stuck with me the most — and the details which I felt most conflicted about putting in print — were Veronique’s descriptions of the damage to her son’s body. He was shot 11 times; she told me that his jaw and his left hand were mostly gone. "

and there's this telling bit from the same Joosh Daily Forward article,

Veronique told me that Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy visited her in the funeral home, and she brought him to see Noah’s open casket. I asked her why it was important for her and for the governor to see Noah’s body. “I needed it to have a face for him,” she said. “If there is ever a piece of legislation that comes across his desk, I needed it to be real for him.”

so lots of ZSM stories of open caskets, still no pics.

and all that ^ is offset by stories like

Lauren Rousseau, Teacher Killed In Newtown Shooting, Mourned By Canadian Family
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/12...n_2324787.html

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Her Canadian-born father, Gilles Rousseau, told Radio-Canada that he wanted to see his daughter's body but was informed by authorities that it would not be possible.


In a tearful interview, he said the rounds used were so powerful that they ripped through the school's walls and left several holes in his daughter's car outside in the parking lot.


"They told me, 'You can't see (the body),'" Gilles Rousseau told Radio-Canada, the French-language CBC. "Because most people he shot, it was two or three shots in the face, point-blank."

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???

so it's all still just not passing the sniff test.

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Originally Posted by chad

i've know this woman for 20+ years, yes i trust her. i started this thread with a tip from her before this was even on the news. i'm not going to call her up and go "hey, can you go over to newton and interview family members, maybe get some polaroids of dead kids for me?"

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Well yeah, I wouldn't ask her to take Polaroids either, when a digital camera would suffice. http://cache2.hyves-static.net/image...akepicture.gif

"Because most people he shot, it was two or three shots in the face, point-blank." per PatColo's post #825.

Experienced gun owners here please chime in: 20 victims, 17 small children, most shot 2-3 times in the face at point-blank range, all in 20 minutes? Is this possible? The victims would have to be virtually immobilized and the shots would have to be near continuous within a few seconds of eachother.

So, some of it is true and some of it isn't? Isn't that a classic description of disinformation? I don't believe any of it. It's turning out just like 911. It doesn't matter any more what really happened. What matters is that the 'authorities' are covering something up. They are lying to the public. They are pushing an agenda. There is a crisis, be it real, or unreal, and they are not letting it go to waste. Where does all this lead? Too bad Kafka isn't alive. He could make a great surreal novel out of this.

Hatha

HOLY SHIT BATMAN!!!

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...-knight-rises/

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Originally Posted by Horn

Maybe everyone was foreclosed on in the area, and all that is left is a ghost town?

How do you attach emails to physical address?

Geez Ms. Simonini has like Twelve residences.

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I found information on Ancestry on the supposed owner of 12 Dickinson (Wendy Foreman) and the year the property is associated with her is 1994. So weird. This is supposed to be a public school. There shouldn't be people connected to these properties at all. Unless the schools closed and the property was sold to these people.

I keep thinking about how the whole event was viewed from that fire station and that school sign is right in front of it. Why wasn't everyone up by the school?

The daycare on the corner across from the fire station appears to have a ghost website. I think there is something very unusual about that whole area.

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Originally Posted by sunshine05

I think there is something very unusual about that whole area.

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Well they are the recruiters for Satan's Church up there.

Does you're friend's friend attend that Church, Chad?

P.O. Box 3184, Newtown CT.https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a...c/s970/MAP.png

http://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/blog/entries/show/21540346-welcome-to-the-church-of-satan-newtown-ct

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Originally Posted by midnight rambler

HOLY SHIT BATMAN!!!

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...-knight-rises/

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Those are incredible coincidences. The probabilities by chance alone have to be one in a million or less.

More about the memorial videos made before the shootings. This is pretty convincing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIh5iny3GxA

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Originally Posted by mamboni

Those are incredible coincidences. The probabilities by chance alone have to be one in a million or less.

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The Stamford Advocate story mentions that Getzinger’s injuries were, at first, called non-life threatening by the police. But then he died.

The last fact of the story is stunning, to say the least. Mr. Getzinger was a resident of…Newtown, Connecticut.


Then we have the fact that Suzanne Collins, author of The Hunger Games, a novel in which 23 children are ritually sacrificed in combat by the dystopian state, also lives in Sandy Hook/Newtown.
Jon Rappoport

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For real?

Its at times like these I fear they will turn the internet into the T.V., I don't believe anything in that box either.

Damn Jesuits

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Originally Posted by midnight rambler

HOLY SHIT BATMAN!!!

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...-knight-rises/

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Wow, that's pretty creepy.

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Originally Posted by Horn

For real?

Its at times like these I fear they will turn the internet into the T.V., I don't believe anything in that box either.

Damn Jesuits

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Yes, it's true about Suzanne Collins living there. I remember reading that just days after the shooting.

Not trying to derail the thread, but was Nostradamus jewish?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=Vi_BXMK5uUU

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Originally Posted by Horn

Not trying to derail the thread, but was Nostradamus jewish?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=Vi_BXMK5uUU

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Yes!

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Originally Posted by sunshine05

I think you almost have to believe that all 20 of them were killed or none of them were. The Emilie Parker thing is just too weird. I don't believe she even existed. They just photoshopped another child into that family photo. There are other families too where the sibling looks exactly like the child who allegedly died.

For some reason, I'm fixated on the buildings. Something is very strange in Monroe. The reason I'm looking at this so much is that I don't believe they moved the kids to this school in that amount of time and it was so secretive, no media allowed near the school. I noticed this morning that according to the tax records, the school was built in 1988 (Chalk Hill). The article with info supposedly from the historical society states that the school was built in 1969 and lists all these people in the article that claimed to have taught there way back. NONE of the addresses are right, the school websites are ghost sites. The elementary school info/news section hasn't been updated since 2009. Something is wrong. I don't know how they did this or why but things are not as they appear.

If it's true that Newtown was considering closing Head O'Meadow elementary due to low enrollment at the schools in Newtown, why wouldn't they have placed the kids into the other 3 elementary schools? Instead they moved them to a different town, a different school district?

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I think the satanist angle, could explain a lot, maybe all of the anomalies, and there could still be a lot of children killed, and the weird behavior of the parents, smiling through an entire interview, the mentally disturbed medical examiner, Gene Rosen, getting a tattoo commemorating the massacre of their son the next day (Pozner). And the really one in a million connections with Batman Dark Knight Rises... It certainly is possible that the friend of Chads friend is a satanist too, or their child just ended up being at the wrong place at the wrong time...

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Originally Posted by Neuro

I think the satanist angle, could explain a lot, maybe all of the anomalies, and there could still be a lot of children killed, and the weird behavior of the parents, smiling through an entire interview, the mentally disturbed medical examiner, Gene Rosen, getting a tattoo commemorating the massacre of their son the next day (Pozner). And the really one in a million connections with Batman Dark Knight Rises... It certainly is possible that the friend of Chads friend is a satanist too, or their child just ended up being at the wrong place at the wrong time...

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Good point. Satanists are usually upstanding citizens from what I understand. They appear perfectly normal, and I'd expect them to be in an affluent, somewhat out-of-the-way area.