150 Militia Take Over Makhuer National Wildlife Preserve Headquarters

http://youtu.be/sSqPreSZ0-g

Youtube link: http://youtu.be/sSqPreSZ0-g

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I have been doing a lot of digging to find out if this Oregon US Distrct Court has criminal jurisdiction in these cases. Everthing I have encountered says unless the legislature ceded the land to the USA the state retains civil and criminal jurisdiction. This Malheur Reserve is not Article I Section 8 Clause 17 property (forts dockyards magazines needful buildings). It is public land, and public land owned by USA apparently falls under the jurisdiction of the state it is located in. The USA is considered just another property owner.

If it is proven the Court lacks jurisdiction, the judges, DOJ attorneys are wide open to criminal charges and civil suits because they are acting personally outside their office.

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I agree that the land is under federal control in the same way any other property owner owns land and is under State of Oregon authority.
The problem is all these State of xxx entities are just another part of the Federal government. There are NO States that get their authority from the people. Their authority comes from the District of Criminals.

I have recently stumbled across this info, that to me is the clearest and most concise explanation of the fraud perpetrated on the American people. Shinola 102 explains how the states were subverted.

http://gaecon.info/Shinola.pdf
Best paper summarizing the fraud upon the American people.
http://gaecon.info/

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I agree that the land is under federal control in the same way any other property owner owns land and is under State of Oregon authority.
The problem is all these State of xxx entities are just another part of the Federal government. There are NO States that get their authority from the people. Their authority comes from the District of Criminals.

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The States are The State of Oregon of the District of Columbia, but the Constitution gives territorial, geographical (land) jurisdiction, EXCLUSIVELY to Congress and its courts in Article I Section 8 Clause 17, forts, magazines, dockyards and other needful buildings.

Article 4 Section 3 Clause 2 gives Congress the power to DISPOSE of, not to purchase other property, again this is territorial. If you demand that the court provide proof that the Constitution has given it the authority to have the capacity to take jurisdiction in XXX County, XXX State worded properly so they cannot wiggle and squirm around the issue using the United States Code they won't be able to show any Constitutional authority. There are numerous Supreme Court Cases ruling the public lands are under the jurisdiction of the state the land is in.

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The States are The State of Oregon of the District of Columbia, but the Constitution gives territorial, geographical (land) jurisdiction, EXCLUSIVELY to Congress and its courts in Article I Section 8 Clause 17, forts, magazines, dockyards and other needful buildings.

Article 4 Section 3 Clause 2 gives Congress the power to DISPOSE of, not to purchase other property, again this is territorial. If you demand that the court provide proof that the Constitution has given it the authority to have the capacity to take jurisdiction in XXX County, XXX State worded properly so they cannot wiggle and squirm around the issue using the United States Code they won't be able to show any Constitutional authority. There are numerous Supreme Court Cases ruling the public lands are under the jurisdiction of the state the land is in.

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But, do you think there is a lawful court representing the Republic State of Oregon? I don't think one exists.

Only Supreme court cases after 1938 or thereabouts qualify, as before that we had access to common law.

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17.

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1765http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/found...es/1ptrans.gifThis statute, it is obvious to observe, extends not only to fleets and armies, but also to forts, and other places of strength, within the realm; the sole prerogative as well of erecting, as manning and governing of which, belongs to the king in his capacity of general of the kingdom: and all lands were formerly subject to a tax, for building of castles wherever the king thought proper. This was one of the three things, from contributing to the performance of which no lands were exempted; and therefore called by our Saxon ancestors the trinoda necessitas: sc. pontis reparatio, arcis constructio, et expeditio contra hostem. And this they were called upon to do so often, that, as sir Edward Coke from M. Paris assures us, there were in the time of Henry II 1115 castles subsisting in England. The inconvenience of which, when granted out to private subjects, the lordly barons of those times, was severely felt by the whole kingdom; for, as William of Newbury remarks in the reign of king Stephen, "erant in Anglia quodammodo tot reges vel potius tyranni, quot domini castellorum:" but it was felt by none more sensibly than by two succeeding princes, king John and king Henry III. And therefore, the greatest part of them being demolished in the barons' wars, the kings of after times have been very cautious of suffering them to be rebuilt in a fortified manner: and sir Edward Coke lays it down, that no subject can build a castle, or house of strength imbatteled, or other fortress defensible, without the licence of the king; for the danger which might ensue, if every man at his pleasure might do it.

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Link @ U Chicago.

It would seem prima facie that this concession is limitted to the defence of the Federation from external threats. Not as an avenue to purchase other lands, buildings or properties BUT only those buildings that would be "needed" in the defence of the Federation.

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No, I don't think one exists anywhere in the nation today.

Long time Harney County man says UN paramilitary in Burns, Oregon -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu1e1X4GtnY

http://youtu.be/sd_CvDTqLJA

http://youtu.be/sd_CvDTqLJA

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Facing up to 96 Years in Prison: Nevada Federal Grand Jury Indicts Cliven Bundy and Four Others
Source: D.C. Clothesline

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A federal grand jury has indicted Cliven Bundy and four others for leading a 2014 standoff with unconstitutional federal agencies at the Bundy Ranch.
Bundy, along with his sons Ammon and Ryan, Ryan Payne and Pete Santilli are facing charges of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, conspiracy to impede or injure a federal officer, using and carrying a firearm in relation to a crime of violence, assault on a federal officer, threatening a federal law enforcement officer, obstruction of the due administration of justice, interference with interstate commerce by extortion, and interstate travel in aid of extortion.
According to a press release by the Justice Department (pause for laughter):

Cliven D. Bundy, 69, of Bunkerville, Nev., Ryan C. Bundy, 43, of Mesquite, Nev., Ammon E. Bundy, 40, of Emmet, Idaho, Ryan W. Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Mont., and Peter T. Santilli, Jr., 50, of Cincinnati, Ohio, are charged with one count of conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, one count of conspiracy to impede or injure a federal officer, four counts of using and carrying a firearm in relation to a crime of violence, two counts of assault on a federal officer, two counts of threatening a federal law enforcement officer, three counts of obstruction of the due administration of justice, two counts of interference with interstate commerce by extortion, and one count of interstate travel in aid of extortion. The indictment also alleges five counts of criminal forfeiture which upon conviction would require forfeiture of property derived from the proceeds of the crimes totaling at least $3 million, as well as the firearms and ammunition possessed and used on April 12, 2014.

Here is exactly why Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro Soebarkah brought in constitution-violating, asset forfeiture criminal and terrorist-tied Loretta Lynch as his Attorney General. Please don’t forget the Democrat and Republican senators who helped confirm her because they are just as complicit. No crime of violence occurred at Bundy Ranch, except for the crimes of federal agencies who destroyed the property of Cliven Bundy and his family. There were attempts to corral people into “First Amendment Zones,” which is unlawful and tazing individuals who were exercising their free speech, but there was no violence committed by the Bundys or the protesters.
“The rule of law has been reaffirmed with these charges,” said U.S. Attorney Bogden. “Persons who use force and violence against federal law enforcement officers who are enforcing court orders, and nearly causing catastrophic loss of life or injury to others, will be brought to justice.”
Who used force? Who used violence? Did the court order demand that cattle be slaughtered? Did the court order that snipers be put into place and an army of hundreds of armed federal agents surround American citizens? Again, who was using force? Who committed acts of violence? Was it not the DC government acting in violation of the Constitution’s requirement regarding ownership and control of land? I think it was.
According to the DOJ release, the maximum penalties for the charges issued are:

Conspiracy to Commit an Offense Against the U.S. – 5 years, $250,000 fine
Conspiracy to Impede and Injure a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 6 years, $250,000 fine
Assault on a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 20 years, $250,000 fine
Threatening a Federal Law Enforcement Officer – 10 years, $250,000 fine
Use and Carry of a Firearm in Relation to a Crime of Violence – 5 years minimum and consecutive
Obstruction of the Due Administration of Justice – 10 years, $250,000 fine
Interference with Interstate Commerce by Extortion – 20 years, $250,000 fine
Interstate Travel in Aid of Extortion – 20 years, $250,000 fine

Editor’s Note: If convicted on all counts, these men could face up to 96 years in prison and/or up to $1.75 million in fines. Would a conviction on all counts and maximum sentence really surprise anyone?
“This indictment sends a resounding message to those who wish to participate in violent acts that our resolve to pursue them and enforce the law remains unwavering,” said Special Agent in Charge Bucheit.
No, the indictment sends a message that DC is engaged in a tyrannical overthrow of the Constitution and will put men in jail on trumped up charges when all they were doing was seeking to expose the criminals and uphold the Constitution.
“Today marks a tremendous step toward ending more than 20 years of law breaking,” said Bureau of Land Management Director Neil Kornze. “The nation’s public lands belong to all Americans.”
Twenty years of lawbreaking? Mr. Kornze, law breaking continues under the current administration just as it has for well over 150 years in this country. When will you be prosecuting your own DOJ, whose Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has criminally engaged in the trafficking of thousands of weapons across the Mexican border and into the hands of Mexican cartels, which resulted in the deaths of two federal agents, hundreds of Mexicans and who knows how many others?
No, my friends, this is not about bringing law breaking to an end. It’s about those engaged in crime at the DC level attempting to silence those who are exposing their crimes.
At least one federal judge understood the law breaking of the Bureau of Land Management and in his opinion of United States v. Estate of Hage, U.S. District Court Judge Robert C. Jones revealed the criminal actions of the BLM against Nevada rancher E. Wayne Hage. Judge Jones held “government officials” in contempt and referred the issued to Eric Holder’s office. We all know what happened… nothing.
Kit Daniels reported:

For over 20 years, the Bureau of Land Management engaged in a “literal, intentional conspiracy” against Nevada ranchers to force them out of business, according to a federal judge whose court opinion exposes the BLM’s true intent against rancher Cliven Bundy.
BLM agents who impounded Cliven Bundy’s cattle.
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“Based upon E. Wayne Hage’s declaration that he refused to waive his rights — a declaration that did not purport to change the substance of the grazing permit renewal for which he was applying, and which had no plausible legal effect other than to superfluously assert non-waiver of rights — the Government denied him a renewal grazing permit based upon its frankly nonsensical position that such an assertion of rights meant that the application had not been properly completed,” Judge Jones wrote. “After the BLM denied his renewal grazing permit for this reason by letter, the Hages indicated that they would take the issue to court, and they sued the Government in the CFC [Court of Federal Claims.]”
And at that point, Jones explained, the BLM refused to consider any further applications from Hage.
“The entire chain of events is the result of the Government’s arbitrary denial of E. Wayne Hage’s renewal permit for 1993–2003, and the effects of this due process violation are continuing,” he stated.

“This behavior shocks the conscience of the Court and provides a sufficient basis for a finding of irreparable harm to support the injunction described at the end of this Order,”
It’s shocking because these men should have been upholding the law, but instead, turned against the American people and acted in a criminal fashion.
Read the indictment below:
Federal indictment against Cliven Bundy and others

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If anyone of us were on the Jury they would not receive a single conviction. But since the Feds pick and choose the Jury they'll most likely be convicted of all counts.

They should challenge jurisdiction immediately.

Oregon Standoff - Obama Signs Executive Order To Legalize BLM's Land Grabs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_E8E9sJTT4

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_E8E9sJTT4

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I noticed that also.

Liasa Bundy treated badly FBI at Malheur Reserve

http://youtu.be/imZjv_pe1FI

http://youtu.be/imZjv_pe1FI

https://youtu.be/otkRAVRoMkk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otkRAVRoMkk

All in all, I'm very disappointed with the ranchers who quoted extensively from the constitution and acted like they knew the score.

Then they hire bar attorney's, which automatically will wave their right to challenge jurisdiction as they have already conceded.

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All in all, I'm very disappointed with the ranchers who quoted extensively from the constitution and acted like they knew the score.

Then they hire bar attorney's, which automatically will wave their right to challenge jurisdiction as they have already conceded.

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Correct, when one retains an attorn-ey one surrenders to an officer of the court and therefore cannot challenge jurisdiction.

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Correct, when one retains an attorn-ey one surrenders to an officer of the court and therefore cannot challenge jurisdiction.

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A person is a word, an action or representation. You are the creator of each. Retaining an attorney is an action as well as representation. Equity acts upon the person. There is no doubt about jurisdiction at this point.

When you don't appear you don't exist.

Don't worry though. They are working on correcting this. Like thought crimes. Thinking wrong thoughts is criminal which means the system is working on making thinking criminal. When this happens there should be a war on legal fictions and all other types of persons if anyone real is left around to do it.

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All in all, I'm very disappointed with the ranchers who quoted extensively from the constitution and acted like they knew the score.

Then they hire bar attorney's, which automatically will wave their right to challenge jurisdiction as they have already conceded.

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I put a lot of effort into pursuading them to challenge jurisdiction. But it appears they are going to hang with the advice of their bar attorners (pun intended).

Part 1
http://youtu.be/mrv64urTyyw

http://youtu.be/mrv64urTyyw

Part 2
http://youtu.be/L1bdMEj--PE

http://youtu.be/L1bdMEj--PE


http://www.kgw.com/news/ammon-bundy-pt1/66653831

http://www.kgw.com/news/raw-intervie...art-2/66670366

Mel and David Bundy were both arrested sometime recently. I'm not sure of the day.

Briana Bundy, Mels wife tells about this on the Nebraska radio station KSDZ in Valentine. She says Mel was arrested in Joe Arpaios county in Arizona and he did nothing to stop it and that he claims to be a constitutional sheriff.

If you go to the page at this link http://www.ksdzfm.com/Archives.html

download the "Brianna Bundy Speaks to America" you can listen to her story of whats been going on with them and the FBI.

In this video if you'll scroll to the 13.00 minute mark there is a report on what Donald Trump had to say concerning the BLM in Nevada and across the the west. Sounds like he's well aware of what those bastards have been up to.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFD5XbOwFnA

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...undy-standoff/


I’m an Oregon rancher. Here’s what you don’t understand about the Bundy standoff.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-ap...on2.jpg&w=1484Keith Nantz on his farm. (Courtesy of Mark Gibson/The Dalles Chronicle)


This week, the Ammon Bundy-led seizure of a federal wildlife refuge thrust Oregon’s ranchers into the spotlight. While I don’t agree with the occupiers’ tactics, I sympathize with their position. Being a rancher was always challenging. And it has become increasingly difficult under the Obama administration.


I grew up in a ranching community in northeast Oregon. Even as a kid, I knew I wanted to be a rancher. After eight years as a firefighter, I’d saved enough to start my own business. I wanted to work on the land, raising delicious, wholesome beef for our growing population.


For almost a decade, I’ve done just that. Most days, I’m up before the sun rises. I spend my mornings tending to my horses, dogs and livestock. In the winter, when it’s bitter cold, I’m outside with my cattle, making sure their water isn’t frozen and that they’re properly fed. In the summer, I often work 15-hour days, cultivating my crops and tending to the animals. In the afternoons, I’m in my office, reaching out to customers and handling the ranch’s business side. Over the course of a given day, I act as a vet, a mechanic, an agronomist and accountant.


I love the work, but it’s grueling. As a rancher, I’m always one bad year away from financial disaster. Every purchase I make — from new cows ($2,000 each) to a new piece of equipment worth hundreds of thousands of dollars — is a major investment. And my ranch operates on very slim margins, so I have to be savvy to make ends meet.


Who are the Bundys?


Play Video1:47 (video at link) https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/01/08/im-an-oregon-rancher-heres-what-you-dont-understand-about-the-bundy-standoff/





Money isn’t the only challenge. Raising cattle requires a lot of land, much more than most ranchers can afford to own outright. I lease about a third of the space I use from private owners. But most ranchers aren’t so lucky. The federal government controls a huge amount of land in the west (more than 50 percent in some states, like Oregon), and many ranchers must lease that space to create a sustainable operation.


Utilizing federal land requires ranchers to follow an unfair, complicated and constantly evolving set of rules. For example, a federal government agency might decide that it wants to limit the number of days a rancher can graze their cattle to protect a certain endangered plant or animal species, or they might unilaterally decide that ranchers can’t use as much water as they need because of a fight over water rights. Or they might take over land that once belonged to the state or private individuals, imposing an entirely new set of restrictions.


[Not punishing the Bundys for the Nevada standoff led to the occupation in Oregon]


I saw this play out firsthand when the federal government considered listing the sage grouse, a chicken-like bird, as endangered. That regulation would have shrunk the amount of land where ranchers could graze cattle, putting many out of business and decimating the industry. To avoid this, ranchers like myself and local officials spent months meeting with federal officials looking for compromise. We ultimately found middle ground. But we already have an enormous workload in our daily lives. The pressure of having to drop everything to lobby against a rule (which happens more often than you’d think) is a tremendous burden.


Most of the time, those regulations are written by people with no agriculture experience, and little understanding of what it takes to produce our nation’s food. The agencies that control these lands can add burdensome regulations at any time. Often, they will begin aggressively enforcing them before ranchers have a chance to adjust.


This forces us to either find new grazing land, reduce the size of our herd or sell out completely. In rural communities, this can have a catastrophic effect on the local economy and environment. Ranching is a billion-dollar industry in Oregon. Overall, agriculture accounts for 15 percent of the state’s economic activity and 12 percent of the state’s employment. The income of a local farm generates double the money for the local economy as a supermarket’s income in the same area, according to the London-based New Economics Foundation.


The siege on our industry has only increased under the Obama administration. Officials are effectively regulating us out of business by enforcing a string of unprecedented environmental restrictions. In Malhuer county (next to Harney county, where the current standoff is taking place), the Obama administration is considering a measure that will turn 2.5 million acres of federal land into a “national monument,” a move that would severely restrict grazing. These restrictions would cause a huge economic downturn for those communities.


These decisions are being made by people who are four to five generations removed from food production. The rule-makers don’t quite understand our industry, and are being spurred on by extreme environmentalist groups asking for unreasonable policy changes.


It’s not that I don’t care what the environmental community wants. In every part of my business, I try to find a balance between economics, mother nature and our culture. I know that if we don’t treat our land properly, we will go out of business by our own hands. It is of utmost importance for us to be true conservationists if we want to continue producing the most nutritious and safest protein in the world.


But all too often, I’m not given the autonomy to do so. I’m given rules, not a conversation about how ranchers and government officials and environmentalists might be able to work together. That’s an approach that fails everyone.

Lavoy's wife Jeanette speaks at a rally in Salt Lake City.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJzJekoyG6c

monty, those vids were disappeared

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"This video has been removed by the user." on both.

Here's another video that's an hour and twenty minutes long but it was interesting from start to finish for me. A Burns area rancher and Chris Briles are interviewed and there are many things they talk about that I haven't heard in other videos. It's all straight talk from people who've dealt with the BLM and US Forest Service for years in the area. It's interesting all the way through.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgnF0_zjjrQ

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jootube = no go

kgw.com website plays the videos

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I was confused, yes, the jewtube videos were removed, but the originals do play. The interview in the Multnomah jail.

Video shows two camera angles of LaVoy Finicum shooting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLHiU8gYWY

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLHiU8gYWY

A Former Soldiers Message about LaVoy Finicum's Murder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgRX0nCROTU&feature=youtu.be

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgRX...ature=youtu.be

Call of Duty goddess has a video pointing out problems with what the FBI and Oregon State police are saying and presenting. After watching the video I'm more convinced than ever that it was murder and completely unnecessary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgVbVZaT4KE

Oregon Live continues to run a smear campaign against the Bundys and Lavoy Finicum to justify the actions of the FBI and Oregon State police at this link. http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...lavoy_fin.html

I guess they want the murderers to walk away feeling like hero's deserving of admiration, respect and pats on the back for shooting down a good man who was enroute to Grant county to teach ranchers, miners and loggers about the constitution where they were invited. Sheriff Glen Palmer was to be there and from what Lavoy said I believe he thought the Sheriff would help them and give them some protection.


This video below is the video by Shawna Cox only and can be enlarged for a better view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KecQ41pbPiM

This Malhuer County district attorney is as corrupt as the left leaning Oregon Live news. He should be convening a grand jury to investigate all those involved in ambushing and killing LaVoy for murder.

FBI officer who shot Oregon militiaman under investigation

FBI agents involved in the traffic stop that led to the killing of one of the armed occupiers of a national wildlife refuge are under investigation for not disclosing they fired shots that missed rancher Robert “LaVoy” Finicum, an Oregon sheriff said Tuesday.


Oregon State Troopers fired the rounds that killed Finicum on Jan. 26, authorities said.
All six of their shots were justified because Finicum failed to heed officers’ commands and repeatedly reached for his weapon, Malheur County District Attorney Dan Norris said.


Still, it was of concern that FBI agents on the scene did not disclose they also fired shots, Deschutes County Sheriff L. Shane Nelson said at a news conference.


The U.S. Department of Justice said in a statement it is investigating FBI agents’ actions during the confrontation with Finicum, 54.


Authorities planned the traffic stop on a remote road as a way to arrest the key members of the armed group that had taken over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Oregon State Police and FBI agents stopped two vehicles carrying occupation leaders, and officers opened fire during a confrontation with Finicum. The occupation’s leaders also were arrested.


The Arizona rancher’s death became a symbol for those decrying federal oversight, on public lands in the West and elsewhere, and led to protests of what they called an unnecessary use of force.
The FBI previously released a video showing the shooting to counter claims he did nothing to provoke it. In the aerial footage, Finicum is pulled over in his truck but then takes off and plows into a snowbank because of a roadblock. He gets out and has his hands up at first, then appears to reach toward his jacket pocket at least twice. Officers shoot him, and he falls.


The FBI said it found a loaded handgun in the pocket.


Finicum was a high-profile part of the weekslong standoff at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, launched Jan. 2 by a small armed group demanding the government relinquish control of public lands and objecting to the prison sentences of two local ranchers convicted of setting fires.


He served as the group’s unofficial spokesman and frequently spoke with media. Finicum’s affable but passionate demeanor made him a popular subject for on-camera interviews.


After his death and the arrests during the traffic stop, most occupiers cleared out of the wildlife preserve. A few holdouts extended the occupation to nearly six weeks before they surrendered Feb. 11.


More than two dozen people — including group leader Ammon Bundy — have been charged with conspiracy to interfere with federal workers in connection with the standoff.


Finicum and his wife, Jeanette, raised dozens of foster children, though social workers removed the kids from the couple’s home a few days after the occupation began.
He had said the foster kids were the family’s main source of income.


The Associated Press contributed to this article.

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Call of Duty goddess has a video pointing out problems with what the FBI and Oregon State police are saying and presenting. After watching the video I'm more convinced than ever that it was murder and completely unnecessary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgVbVZaT4KE

Oregon Live continues to run a smear campaign against the Bundys and Lavoy Finicum to justify the actions of the FBI and Oregon State police at this link. http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...lavoy_fin.html

I guess they want the murderers to walk away feeling like hero's deserving of admiration, respect and pats on the back for shooting down a good man who was enroute to Grant county to teach ranchers, miners and loggers about the constitution where they were invited. Sheriff Glen Palmer was to be there and from what Lavoy said I believe he thought the Sheriff would help them and give them some protection.


This video below is the video by Shawna Cox only and can be enlarged for a better view.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KecQ41pbPiM

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I faxed this letter to Sheriff David Ward two days before they murdered LaVoy Finicum. The coward could have prevented this.

January 24, 2016
David M. Ward, Sheriff
485 N. Court Street #
Burns, Oregon
Tel. 541 573-6156
Fax 541 573-8383


Dear Sheriff Ward:


You have a situation in your county that is due to the inaction of one man, and one man only. That man is you. Even though you were appointed the office you hold is an elected office by the people of Harney County. Your first responsibility is to the people, not to the committee that appointed you, nor the governor nor least of all the Federal Government.
I am an old man coming from a Nevada farming/ranching family. I have seen and experienced lot in my lifetime. What you are about to experience can be avoided if you choose to act. The results will be something you will live with the rest of your life.


You can be a man, assume the responsibility of your office, order the Federal government out of your county and avoid any bloodshed. Let due process be served.


There is much corruption in your local government just as there is in my local government in Nye County, Nevada. Federal grant money breeds strange bedfellows.


If you want to live the rest of your life knowing you could have prevented the situation that is about to occur continue to hide under your desk. If not grow some balls and take action. Let your conscience be your guide. You will be a national hero if you do the right thing. If not they will throw you under the bus when they no longer need you.


Sincerely yours,
/s/James L. Jensen
James. L. Jensen

I'm humbled and my hat's off to LaVoy, but he was taunting a bunch of trigger-happy, blood-thirsty Satan worshipers who know they will never be held accountable and responsible for their actions (and more likely than not get big fat bonuses).

I finished reading Lavoy Finicum's book " Only by Blood and Suffering" recently. It's fiction about a shtf situation in the US after an EMP explosion takes out the power all over the country. It's about preparedness, the constitution and our corrupt government.

Lavoy is trying to wake people up and teach them in his book about the constitution, self sufficiency and preparedness. He added notes to his story that connect them to world history like the Bolshevik Revolution, Karl Marx and millions killed in China under Mao.

There are also notes concerning DHS, mercenaries, The Federal Reserve and the Rothchilds. E.O. 13603 "National defense Resources Preparedness" where all resources deemed necessary in an emergency with be seized. I know of this and in an emergency I'd expect the military to roll up and take control of all farms and ranches and their food production. Preppers and people who grow food would be the enemies of those who didn't prepare and the government.

Lavoy was doing in his book what he was trying to do on youtube and at the protest in Burns. He was trying to teach people about the constitution and property rights. He will continue to teach and wake people up through his book for those who read it.



This is a link to the Finicum family blogspot http://lavoyfinicumsfamilystandforfreedom.blogspot.com


This is a good article below written by his family on why he was involved in these protests against the corrupt government we are living under.




Sunday, February 21, 2016

Tree of Liberty











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We never imagined it would be the blood of our husband and father watering the 'Tree of Liberty' that Thomas Jefferson spoke of in years past.

For those new to the LaVoy Finicum Assassination story (video of his murder), it began years ago as he practiced daily diligence in the things that develop mind, body and spirit. Such practices enabled him to be the powerful voice America knows him to be.

The more he studied the more he began to recognize how tyranny's iron fist was intimately in the lives of the American people. This weighed heavily on his soul because he was a man of principle. As a God fearing man, he understood the responsibility and obligation he had to stand in his respective sphere for the cause of liberty.

His sphere to stand for liberty was in ranching. The grass that fed his cattle on his ranch was a personal property right by prior appropriation. He purchased that grazing right from the prior owner. He did not purchase this grass property right from the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). This right existed before the BLM came to be.

LaVoy asked himself why it was that an unelected bureaucrat had power to dictate and regulate, by force, how a rancher functioned on his or her ranch? This issue is not about cows and it's not about grass, it's about property rights. If you do not have property rights you do not have freedom. A society cannot long remain at peace when the right to control personal property is infringed upon. What the BLM is...

At gaining this understanding, through study, he no longer in good conscious, could endorse the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) as the managers of his ranch, for it never was theirs to manage in the first place. This was how he could make a stand for liberty. He understood how important it was that he honor his property rights, for if he did not, they would be lost. He hoped and invited others to do the same in their respective spheres. He publically announced that he canceled all contracts with the Bureau of Land Management and did not need their assistance in maintaining his ranch. He communicated that he would pay a production tax to his county.

There has been much confusion among the public about this topic because there is a lack of understanding about how preemptive rights are created. Our forefathers call such rights natural rights or self evident. To explain that in depth will require another post.

He continued forward managing his ranch while receiving threatening letters from the BLM. Every spare moment was spent to educate anyone willing to listen to Constitutional truth through radio, town meetings and late night discussions with ranching friends. All of his happenings were documented on his YouTube channel for the world to see. His YouTube channel

He followed the stories of other oppressed ranching families to know how to assist them in defending their property rights. LaVoy was so overwhelmed at the injustice inflicted upon the Hammond Family in Burns, Oregon. (LaVoy's YouTube about Hammond Family) On Saturday, January 2nd, he decided to attend the peaceful protest to support the Hammond family who had been sentenced with double jeopardy on top of $400,000 in fines, a clear violation of the 8th amendment. Not to mention how the Hammond family was forced to give right of first refusal of their ranch to the Bureau of Land Management. This conflict all derived from a long stem of abuse from the BLM. In layman terms, the unelected BLM regulated and fined these land owners, forcing them to need to sell and they couldn't even sell it to who they wanted to! Smells like a evil conspiracy. BLM Harassment to Hammond Family

Upon his arrival, he and some other trusted ranchers decided to take a firm stand against the tyranny transpiring in Burns, Oregon. After all due process measures had been exhausted and ignored they had no other choice but to exercise their right to participate in civil disobedience by occupying the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. This location was 30 minuets out of town and used as a work place to gather evidence and provide education to local ranchers who were also being oppressed in that county.

The main stream media characterized these peaceful protestors as anti-government dangerous terrorists. These cowboys were PEACFULLY exercising their 1st amendment rights while exercising their 2nd amendment right in confronting a very corrupt power. They, in no way were what the media characterized them to be. Their days in Oregon were spent meeting with the people, befriending them, helping them and teaching them the principles that our leaders have abandoned. Many were grateful they had come because they were giving them hope that they too could regain what had been unlawfully stolen from them by the overreaching government.

Throughout history a few courageous people have stood alone and held uncommon views. Cicero, Joan of Arc, Sir Thomas More, and the Founders of the American Republic. They all had one thing in common: they were mocked, ridiculed and called extremists. Today’s defenders of the U.S. Constitution are now call “Domestic Terrorists.” But isn’t it interesting to note that yesterday’s extremists typically become tomorrow’s heroes? LaVoy and the other cowboys who sacrificed their time and talent to courageously stand for their God given rights against this tyrannical government are the true hero’s of today’s American history.

They tirelessly continued their selfless work and found much success in uncovering much corruption. Eye witnesses of unlawful conduct of key figures in that county started coming forward and giving their testimony, evidence for the case of the Hammond family seemed to flow unto them. People in Harney County and neighboring county’s began to discern the cowboy’s motives by witnessing the fruits they produced. They were documenting their progress on the web for the world to follow. People all across this country, and even in different countries, were being enlightened and changed by the cowboy's work at the refuge. Because of the public interest, legislatures and congressmen were forced to get off their own agenda and pay attention to the constitutional crisis going on in rural Burns, Oregon. Constitutional sheriffs began to collaborate with the peaceful protestors at the refuge to endorse them and use their elected authority to get things happening. For all these reasons, are why LaVoy was assassinated. It is a deep conspiracy that is so huge and beyond my father’s martyr.

The day our husband and father was assassinated, they were in transit to Grant County, a neighboring county to Harney County. The Grant County sheriff, Glenn Palmer, gathered a gymnasium full of his county citizens to hear the cowboys message of hope. LaVoy was killed in cold blood because he was successful at reaching into the hearts of those he spoke with and inspiring them to take courage to make an educated stand for liberty. The power, authority and humility he possessed was a real threat to our corrupt leaders.

Whether or not you believe our husband and father did the right thing, I ask you: who are we as Americans? Who are we as human beings? Do we now believe that mere words justify the use of deadly force? Do we believe that peaceful actions justify the use of deadly force? Do we believe that two hands up in surrender justifies the use of deadly force? And do we believe that following the rule of law- the U.S. Constitution warrants the use of deadly force? If we do, then where is liberty?

I ask you now, what does your conscience tell you?

With courage and God given wisdom are you willing to appropriately use your agency to act rather than be acted upon?

Are you willing to be free?