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Patcolo>Gordon Duff says this is the biggest epidemic of Zionist push-back he's ever seen, and suggests the MSM is "protesting too much" thereby revealing their complicity.
In other news VP Joe Biden Meets with faith leaders.
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Washington (CNN) – Vice President Joe Biden and officials on his gun violence committee held an unannounced meeting Wednesday evening with a group of 12 national faith leaders.
One theme brought up by several participants was the "moral tragedy" reflected in the gun violence the nation has seen over the past several months.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...faith-leaders/
The double prong attack of desert God's pure evil combines into Super Twin wonder powers.
Novus Ordo Seclorum pyramid complete.
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I was googling John Trentacosta, and among the first hits was his LinkedIn page, I clicked on it but his profile wasn't there, but I got a cached version:http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...oDIDg&ct=clnkI wonder if there may be something suspect with any of the organizations and volunteer works he has been associated with?
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I was googling John Trentacosta, and among the first hits was his LinkedIn page, I clicked on it but his profile wasn't there, but I got a cached version:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...oDIDg&ct=clnkI wonder if there may be something suspect with any of the organizations and volunteer works he has been associated with?
He had a major promotion into the uber world of finance last year, No need to be linked with the untouchables anymore.
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He had a major promotion into the uber world of finance last year, No need to be linked with the untouchables anymore.
According to the cached page date, it was Cached the 2nd of January 2013...
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According to the cached page date, it was Cached the 2nd of January 2013...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrrkPHPwVfo
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Interesting if you google Adam Lanza and Nancy Lanza for pictures respectively, and you tell Google to look for photos prior to 12/31/2011, you find no photos with any likeness to either of them. Peter Lanza had one tiny photo, only, at a site similar to LinkedIn, but which I never heard of before...
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Interesting if you google Adam Lanza and Nancy Lanza for pictures respectively, and you tell Google to look for photos prior to 12/31/2011, you find no photos with any likeness to either of them. Peter Lanza had one tiny photo, only, at a site similar to LinkedIn, but which I never heard of before...
Ok the site is called Yatedo, and apparently they take the information from sites like LinkedIn, without the consent of the user.
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Neuro
Interesting if you google Adam Lanza and Nancy Lanza for pictures respectively, and you tell Google to look for photos prior to 12/31/2011, you find no photos with any likeness to either of them. Peter Lanza had one tiny photo, only, at a site similar to LinkedIn, but which I never heard of before...
I don't find it surprising that there's no photos of any of the Lanzas to be found online prior to 12/14, especially of a kid that no one has seen for three years (except for supposedly a handful of people like the woman who would cut Adam's hair when his mother brought him in).
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I don't find it surprising that there's no photos of any of the Lanzas to be found online prior to 12/14, especially of a kid that no one has seen for three years (except for supposedly a handful of people like the woman who would cut Adam's hair when his mother brought him in).
You could certainly be right about that...
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This seems like a likely/possible big picture. One thing about federal agents though, do you think that they were in on it, or is it that they are easier to handle, because they have been trained to uniformly follow the rule book, and the administrative hierarchies orders without question?
Here is how I think these things get done.
At the very top are the Royals/bankers, families like the Rothchilds that are pulling the strings behind the scenes. They would give an order to the smoking man group to shape public perceptions and develop a political climate where people would give up their guns. They don't have direct knowledge or involvement in the operation.
The smoking man group would sort of be like the group of old men on X-files that were involved in the alien conspiracy. Hopefully most of you know what I am talking about. Guys that have worked for CIA or other intelligence agencies for decades, helped to overthrow governments and have been proven to do whatever it takes to get the "job" done. They are psychopaths/sociopaths and have a good idea of the overall scheme of things and are doing it for the money/sex/power, hoping to move up to the top group, whatever does it for them. They direct the other groups involved in the conspiracy. They never reveal their true identities to the lower groups but still direct them.
The Hit team is made up of special forces guys or similar that have murdered, raped or some other heinous crime and are facing decades jail time or death. The smoking man group being CIA or similar have access to medical/psychological records and all other records pertaining to these individuals and can pick the ones best suited for the type of work that involves killing innocent people. The are approached by one of the smoking men and given an offer they can't refuse. Work for us and you will be given a new identity, be free of the charges and be paid very well. They are monitored very closely and if at any time the smoking man group losses confidence in one of them similar assets are given the order to terminate. This group probably doesn't need a cover story they enjoy their work for the most part and realize betrayal to their masters means death.
The Feds that manage the crime scene are made up of individuals who have also been picked by the smoking man group. They also are unaware of the true identities of the smoking men. They are similar to the hit men in that they are black-mailable but may not have quite the same propensity for violence. They are usually doing drills very near to where the event is to take place, that way they can show up within a half hour or less and take over the crime scene. This is one reason why their are often conflicting reports. Some local law enforcement may release information to the press that they discovered before the Feds show up but the story is quickly corrected by the feds and who is the media going to believe? The FBI or Hicksville PD? They are likely given a cover story, ends justifies the means BS but are mainly kept in line through fear and desire to be rewarded.
The last layer is the actors, certain local officials and high up media plants that manage the story, that are also in on the scheme. This is where most people can't figure it out. They aren't compromised shortly before the event, they are CIA or other intelligence assets that have been working undercover for decades perhaps. Jesse Ventura has told the story of how when he became governor that the CIA visited him and that they were people from that community who's job was to blend in and gather intell. Well they likely don't just gather intell they also perform tasks when called to action. The smoking man group would also profile their assets and pick the ones that are willing to get the job done and are either black-mailable or gullible enough to buy some version of propaganda. They are also likely psychopaths/sociopaths and being undercover may not even be aware of the other assets involved in the conspiracy. The coroner, police chief and certain "family members" could be in this group. Moved into the community well before the event may even have been planned and placed into positions of influence or authority. For example CIA asset runs for police chief and because of CIA money can easily get the votes needed over others without unlimited funds. Eugene Rosen fits this profile nicely being on the board of a local media station I believe and also just happening to live close to the school.
So there you have it. If you count up those involved other then the top group you have less then a hundred involved probably and they are all compartmentalized and compromised well before the event takes place. If they go rogue they are dispatched by a hitman group. They control and manage the flow of information to the public but can't control it all so discrepancies always surface. The smoking man group realizes that the majority, trusting in authority and the media will not question the official narrative despite the inconsistencies.
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They don't have direct knowledge or involvement in the operation.
Only crevat is that in most instances, or when there is a hitch in plans, someone at the top would need to be sequestered. These people didn't get to where they are by having partners they can "trust", every major move would need their blessing.
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haven't listened to this yet - Carolyn's S.Hook show last week was great though:How Big of a Hoax was the Sandy Hook “Massacre?”. I gather this one has no guest, just her discussing. 2 hrs comm free, 28 MBs:
Saturday Afternoon with Carolyn Yeager Jan. 12, 2013
Sandy Hook, Part2
We are told that the lesson to be drawn from the Sandy Hook “massacre” is that easy access to assault-type weapons creates a public danger of untold proportions. We need to understand that the real danger is from our public media, which is the ultimate WMD, or weapon of mass destruction, for our people. The media has given us an “official narrative” of Sandy Hook which on even semi-close inspection cannot be believed. Thus it comes under the category of an operation to
“change our perception of reality”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-GbY_IYDN8
...in order to make us more pliable to the wishes of our governments. (In other words, a psychological operation or psyop.)
Carolyn discusses the reports and rumors about Sandy Hook from this point of view and points to the danger within the “alternative media” and/or “truth movement” of getting bogged down in debate over details of little consequence, as has happened in the 9/11 Truth Movement and also in “The Holocaust,” for that matter. Mentioned on the program: Fla. Atlantic Univ. Professor James Tracy interviewed on Guns and Butter.
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gotta watch the 5 min clip below; it's first I've heard of CNN hoaxing up fake "live from Saudi" reports during Gulf War 1 in 1991, actually from their US studio somewhere! :o Hoax ZSM coverage has surely come a long way since then, though you wouldn't know it from how sloppy & fake many of the sandy hook psyop actors are!
January 11, 2013
Sandy Hook and 9/11: Anti-terrorism Exercise Drills Are Invitation to “Live” Terrorist Events Reply
Sandy Hook Shooting • Tags: Carl Rochelle, Charles Jaco, CNN, Desert Storm, George HW Bush, News fraud
http://chemtrailsplanet.files.wordpr...torm.jpg?w=474CRISIS NEWS NETWORK
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CNN Perpetrated Hoax on America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijdj_y0B9BY
http://chemtrailsplanet.files.wordpr...-war.jpg?w=474
”Laural & Hardy” CRISIS ACTORS
During George H.W. Bush’s 1991 Gulf War, CNN would broadcast phony “live” coverage from Saudi Arabia day after day and the TV audience never suspected a thing.
It was no secret to media insiders that Jaco and crew never left the CNN studio but corporate media conspired to keep this deception a secret by agreeing not to “investigate” their own lies.
Nobody watching TV could imagine that Jaco, his crew, the CNN anchor and even Wolf Blitzer were laughing and joking about reporting phony neews behind the backs of millions of American taxpayers.
In 2013 this media deception is much more sophisticated. Today, the Crisis Actor industry flourishes with their alleged mission to provide “realism” in drills and exercises for first responders.
But like 9/11 and Sandy Hook, these practice drills go “live” and deadly when unexpected “actors” show up to terrorize and kill by taking advantage of all the confusion of what was supposed to be an exercise to prevent terrorism.
http://chemtrailsplanet.net/2013/01/11/sandy-hook-911-anti-terrorism-excercise-drills-are-invitation-to-live-terrorist-events/
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-XxisikdMiE...den-Videos.jpg
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Nat'l ZSM goes on the attack against S.H. "conspiracy theories"... specifically Anderson Vanderbilt/Cooper's been tasked here with the first assault. @ John Friend's blog- his speculation is at the more extreme end I've seen, namely his first guess is 100% hoax, no one killed, all actors; see his: Calling bullshit on the Sandy Hook hoax! - Updated
Open to see reader comments:
Saturday, January 12, 2013
Anderson Cooper: Suppressing the truth about Sandy Hook?
Anderson Cooper, easily one of the most establishment serving, despicable scum bags in the mainstream mass media, is incredulous, and a bit irate, about
some of the legitimate statements and
claims made by Florida Atlantic professor of communications
James Tracy about the Sandy Hook "shooting" hoax.
Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press and a mere token opposition party.
- Dummy up. If it's not reported, if it's not news, it didn't happen.
- Wax indignant. This is also known as the "How dare you?" gambit.
- Characterize the charges as "rumors" or, better yet, "wild rumors." If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through "rumors." (If they tend to believe the "rumors" it must be because they are simply "paranoid" or "hysterical.")
- Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.
- Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nutcase," "ranter," "kook," "crackpot," and, of course, "rumor monger." Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the "more reasonable" government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own "skeptics" to shoot down.
- Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).
- Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.
- Dismiss the charges as "old news."
- Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hangout route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.
- Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.
- Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster "suicide" note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven't reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.
- Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?
- Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.
- Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as "bump and run" reporting.
- Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the "facts" furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.
- Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges "expose" scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.
- Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, "What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?" Don t the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.
Posted by John Friend at 10:28 AM 8 comments:
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here's the YT "more info" on the CNN clip above,
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Published on Jan 11, 2013
Believe it or not, there are actually people out there who are convinced that last month's horrific shooting in Newtown, Connecticut was staged. Anderson Cooper opened his show tonight taking on these conspiracy theorists. He said that ordinarily, he wouldn't give much thought to insane conspiracies, but one of the people pushing them is a Florida professor who raises doubts as to whether the shooting "ever took place" in the way that the media described, and the whole thing was just a huge conspiracy to get the country behind gun control. And as if that wasn't unbelievable enough, he also suspects that some of the parents of the children were really actors.
RELATED: Colbert Takes On NRA's Wayne LaPierre: 'You, Sir, Are F**ked In The Head'
Cooper couldn't fathom how this professor could possibly have such kind of doubts, but he found an even crazier theory going around the internet: one of the little girls killed at Sandy Hook was not, in fact, present, which Cooper described as "sickening." And Cooper himself was even connected to the conspiracies, as one mother he interviewed on camera was not crying during the interview, therefore, by the logic of the conspiracy theorists, she could not have possibly been a real grieving mother.
Cooper said that in all the years he's interviewed people in grief, he has never seen people react the same way every single time, dismissing this theory as simply "ignorant." The aforementioned professor, regrettably, has elevated the conspiracy theories to a mainstream level that have spawned much outrage, especially over the fact that a public university is keeping him on the payroll.
Cooper brought on CNN reporter John Zarrella to reveal that they tried to have the professor on the program, but instead Zarrella went to Florida to confront the professor about his remarks. Zarrella revealed that over the phone, the professor said he would only provide an e-mail response, in which the professor apologized for "any additional anguish and grief" his comments may have caused, though for the most part he stuck to his guns.
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They are showing they may/will come after someone harshly who question the official account, especially if that person is an official person... Likely outcome will be loss of job, ending up a pariah among friends, neighbors and family...
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The excellent writer and actual journalist DC Dave Martin's
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression will come in handy after viewing the video above. Which techniques are Anderson Cooper and the clowns at CNN using to suppress the truth and perpetuate the Sandy Hook "shooting" hoax? I'd say numbers 2 and 4 are the techniques primarily on display in the video above. What do you think?
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I've noticed Pierce Morgan Uses #2 constantly. Anytime he is presented with a fact he cannot rebut he will go the, "how dare you!", "that is an absolute lie!", "that is ludicrous!" route.
This is a type of public shaming, if said with enough conviction can be very effective on those unaware of the tactic.
I wonder how much practice guys like Clinton and Pierce Morgan have had to be very convincing when doing this.
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I've noticed Pierce Morgan Uses #2 constantly. Anytime he is presented with a fact he cannot rebut he will go the, "how dare you!", "that is an absolute lie!", "that is ludicrous!" route.
This is a type of public shaming, if said with enough conviction can be very effective on those unaware of the tactic.
I wonder how much practice guys like Clinton and Pierce Morgan have had to be very convincing when doing this.
I don't think they needed to practice it at all, sociopaths and psychopaths do these types of things naturally!
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Neuro
I don't think they needed to practice it at all, sociopaths and psychopaths do these types of things naturally!
Cock gobblers like Anderson Pooper & Piers Morgan also find it natural to straddle fairy media executives types to the top of the anchor chain.
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I don't think they needed to practice it at all, sociopaths and psychopaths do these types of things naturally!
Yeah I guess so. If you have been lying your whole life it would be pretty easy.
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This thread will never die, if we had a post 9/11 thread it would the the same as we are talking about the same perpetrators I think
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Norweger
America erwache!
Auf GSUS sind wir nicht schlafen!
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couple S.H. entries @ Tracy's blog re ^, getting a lot of reader comments there!
January 12, 2013 · 7:41 am
Does Anderson Cooper Want James Tracy and/or His Family Members Harmed?
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...fIR9UpVQorbX2Q
It would seem so from the broadcast journalist’s January 11 performance on his CNN program. Once corporate news media have told us what “reality” is, no further questioning is allowed, especially from credentialed individuals such as “tenured professors.” One has to ask, “Is this journalism? Or the frustrated defense of a news presenter and an increasingly uncertain storyline?”
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January 11, 2013 · 7:30 pm
Public Statement via CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360
The producers of CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 have invited me to appear on tonight’s broadcast to discuss this week’s controversy surrounding my articles on the Sandy Hook tragedy. Unfortunately, I am at present unable to accommodate this request. CNN has asked for a written statement from me to present in my absence. This statement, issued to a CNN representative late this afternoon, appears in its entirety below.
Link to January 11, 2013 Anderson Cooper 360 episode.
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someone sent me this, apparently it's not the original uploader coz the voiceover talks about links he's putting in the YT description, but there's no info in this vids more-info area. Got >18K views though, uploaded Jan 8. I guess we'd need to search Vimeo for this S.H. tribute vid he speaks of, posted around a MONTH BEFORE...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhpN4WWUuPc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhpN4WWUuPc
I did this vimeo search for the title just as I see it in the YT above,
http://vimeo.com/search?q=Sandy+Hook...+Newtown%2C+CT
and get 7 pages of results, oldest relevant result being 4 weeks old, not last Nov. I wouldn't expect such a video to remain on vimeo, if indeed it was once there. That search also yielded this 8 min vimeo vid, a longer version of the YT version above, but this one has big description below
http://vimeo.com/57052442
http://vimeo.com/57052442
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Sandy Hook School Shooting Tribute - 1 month earlier? What the..? (Very Sick)
from
Evoke & Evolve 5 days ago
ALL POINTS BULLETIN ! This is not a joke, or faked in any way. At this point, serious investigation needs to be done to find out how far back this all goes.
We need to find out WHO THE HECK uploaded a "tribute to the sandy hook shooting" on November 10, 2012. And how they knew BEFOREHAND who was to be shot.
The Sandy Hook shooting was on December 14th, 2012 yet this video shows all the victims, teachers, etc.. and the video was uploaded for sure on November 10th, 2012.
This time stamp for sure does not lie... vimeo.. look at their other uploads as well.
The link is below -- this is smoking gun proof of people knowing beforehand the shooting..
I DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION NOW! From police and all online investigators.
Here is the video uploaded on Nov. 10, 2012 , almost ONE FULL MONTH before the sandy hook shooting.
instructions :
Move your mouse over the date below the vimeo video
vimeo.com/53220123
Here are the other uploads from this person:
vimeo.com/user12212360/videos
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DATE the sandy hook tribute video was TWEETED .. was November 10, 2012 --- same date..
This is for real.. "they" are busted.. Sandy Hook preplanned / fake.
Tweet Dated 10 Nov 2012...
twitter.com/bacmaster/status/267326143923904512
text of the tweet:
"I just uploaded "My Movie" to Vimeo:
vimeo.com/53220123"; The link took me to a Sandy Hook Elementary School Tribute film! Does it for you??
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thanks to tatoot1009 for discovering this.. here is his facebook:
facebook.com/pages/tatoott1009/257364000967517
here is his youtube page:
youtube.com/tatoot1009Reloaded
make sure to stay tuned, tatoot has got something to say about all of this, and he's not too happy .
Neither am I.
Something strange is afoot...
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Here is the information on just one of the fundraisers setup FOUR DAYS before the shooting..
This is starting to look like the whole Sandy Hook event was a preplanned 'faked' event.
Which is more likely? Preplanned with videos waiting online... or faked 100%?
It goes all the way to the top, (the president). Either he was duped by this elaborate hoax.. cops, law enforcement, and media are 'in on it' ..... or they ALL know ... and it was planned by them !
For sure we know now, it was preplanned, with FOR SURE multiple people involved going back to November !!
This should be an all points ALERT if you really think about it.
facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488191011233328&set=a.36312671707...
Read more:
disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/120632/182013__Sandy_Hook_School_Shooting_Tribute_Vid__UP LOADED_1_MONTH_BEFORE_/#ixzz2HTHVTaXT
so we check http://vimeo.com/53220123 - and we read it was DELETED on Jan 9, the day after the above vid was published! :o
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Sorry, "READ THE INFO BELOW MORONS!" was deleted at 11:05:03 Wed Jan 9, 2013.
We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere.
so does that mean the title of the video once located at that URL was titled "READ THE INFO BELOW MORONS!" ????
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PatColo>I wouldn't expect such a video to remain on vimeo, if indeed it was once there. That search also yielded this 8 min vimeo vid, a longer version of the YT version above, but this one has big description below
All the pictures of the little blonde girl posted look like they were modeling photos for some kind of acting career.
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so does that mean the title of the video once located at that URL was titled "READ THE INFO BELOW MORONS!" ????
I think it means someone is leaving clues. Like the one who posted the cryptic clue before the event. Do we know what is posted below, on that page? What sort of comments were posted.
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^ there's only 2 comments at that main vimeo page with the long description/links- http://vimeo.com/57052442. The supposed corresponding tweet url is also an error page now. One of the comments asks this question I also wondered,
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All the links bar one which is the Google time stamp link have been removed now, I have looked at this and the date is indeed 11th Dec......., but was just wondering if a page can be modified after the fact. For example use an existing page and update it, so the original post date would stay the same but the information contained within would change, I am a bit of a technophobe so am not great when it comes to looking for this info (perhaps I have miss it though), I am just researching my own facts and your info has been a great enlightenment thank you.
and the shorter rendition @ YT has comments disabled, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhpN4WWUuPc
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The guy did some good investigative work. He did not answer all the questions, but did a good job on Vimeo and Emilie Parker (I never quite bought that one for the reason he states, there were three girls, and two in the picture, and sisters can look very similar).
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It appears that the Parker family is Mormon.
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post597486
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I thought so. I should have put the emphasis on "is" here:
I figured that having the funeral service at an LDS stake center would be confirmation if anything would be.
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I was disappointed with this latest TUT show- host Hesham Tallawi, guests M.C.Piper & Mark Glenn. The 3 of them criticize S.Hook skepticism, esp among those who are familiar names for their 911 Truth work... coz the ZSM will conflate all the "crazies" together. You have to hear it, their logic didn't really work for me. S.H. is "the 9/11 of gun control", with disarming Americans the obvious driving agenda. Disarming populations always precedes democide. James Fetzer calls in and spends about 1/2 the show with them, defending S.Hook skepticism. 47 mins, 11 MBs.
Current Issues with Hesham Tillawi Jan 13, 2013
The kookery of the various Sandy Hook conspiracy theories and how it is being exploited by the JMSM to label all ‘truthers’ as crazies. Great interview with Hesham Tillawi, Michael Collins Piper and Mark Glenn.
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edit- been reading the comments on this Tillawi show, both at grizzom
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/...llawi-jan.html
and at TUT,
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/20...i-jan-13-2013/
happy to see majority opinion at both sites is not falling in line with the Tillawi/Glenn/Piper view. here's one @ TUT (where we'd expect a more biased, TUT supportive readership), if you read the others you'll find this is representative,
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- #14 by PATTY on January 14, 2013 - 2:44 pm
Bravo Dr. Fetzer. You did an excellent job despite the hostile circumstances and I totally agree that whatever happened at Sandy Hook, it’s sole purpose as a psychological operation is to disarm the American people beginning with the semi-automatic weapons which the govt. calls “assault weapons”.
I was disappointed by the ridiculous reasoning presented by Tillawi/Piper/Glenn. They seemed to argue that no one should question or pose alternative theories regarding the latest false flag attacks on the American psyche, at least not on any mainstream forum, lest the mainstream make the entire truth movement into a bunch of kooks and that this would do irreparable damage to the 9/11 movement. This is truly idiotic logic.
First, who cares about anything the Jew media says. They are the kooks who disseminate only Jew/Govt lies and propaganda to further a sinister agenda. Any lie exposed will be ridiculed by them–Holohoax, 9/11, OKC, USS Liberty, JFK assassination, Pearl Harbor, Adolf Hitler, etc. Jim Fetzer did a great thing by using MSM to alert people there are other ways to look at the events of our day. Only those with ears to hear will hear.
Second, Tillawi kept on stupidly saying “But there are no facts, only questions and theories”. After 9/11 and the “Holocaust” we were also not privy to hard-core evidence about what really happened. This extends to all historical lies. The inquiry begins with looking at all the inconsistencies and improbabilities in the official story and the lack of evidence to support the official story except for ” the govt/authorities told me so”. The official Sandy Hook story has so many holes in it that it unravels right before our very eyes. Go to http://www.carolynyaeger.net to hear her 2 radio shows on Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook Parts 1 and 2. Part 1 has 2 very interesting guests.
- #15 by Eva F. on January 14, 2013 - 7:53 pm
I agree with Tillawi’s anger. He was a bit harsh, but -so what- Mr. Fetzer is an old warhorse. This harshness will not harm him. In fact it was way too early to go public with a theory, even when there are a lot of holes and questions in the offical Sandy Hook narrative. I really wonder f.e. why the parents were not allowed to see their dead children. Does anybody understand that ?
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Someone placed some reloaded video labels to cover up for the Facebook page & other dated donation sites?
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Professor won’t back down from Newtown massacre conspiracy theory
A media professor at Florida Atlantic University who is questioning the Sandy Hook massacre has caused controversy with his conspiracy claims.
James Tracy, who writes a personal blog about conspiracy theories, believes the events that unfolded at Sandy Hook did not happen as reported.
The professor writes on his blog, Memory Hole, “While it sounds like an outrageous claim, one is left to inquire whether the Sandy Hook shooting ever took place—at least in the way law enforcement authorities and the nation’s news media have described.” He suggests that there were multiple shooters and that the number of dead is incorrect. The blog post was published on the Global Research site, where it caught the attention of the Web.
The academic, who is known for his conspiracy theories on 9/11 and the Oklahoma bombing, believes—as he claims on his blog and recently stated on a radio show—that trained “crisis actors” may have been employed by the Obama administration to shape public opinion on gun control.
The 47-year-old, who holds a Ph.D. from the University of Iowa in mass communication, wrote on his blog, “ As documents relating to the Sandy Hook shooting continue to be assessed and interpreted by independent researchers there is a growing awareness that the media coverage of the massacre of 26 children and adults was intended primarily for public consumption to further larger political ends.”
According to his faculty profile, the professor "teaches courses examining the relationship between commercial and alternative news media and socio-political issues and events." He also lists his recent work in “Censored 2013: Sourcebook for the Media Revolution. The Top Censored Stories and Media Analysis of 2011-2012."
When questioned about his theories by a local CBS12 news reporter, Tracy responded, "The whole country mourned about Sandy Hook, but yet again the investigation that journalistic institutions should have carried out never took place, in my opinion."
He added, "As a society we need to look at things more carefully. Perhaps we as a society have been conditioned to be duped."
His blog, with 222 followers, lays out his theory in detail, suggesting that it was a training exercise in which actually nobody was killed. He writes, "To declare that the shooting 'never took place' is cause for intense opprobrium in most polite circles where, in familiar Orwellian fashion, the media-induced trance and dehistoricized will to believe maintain their hold."
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...183530799.html
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I am not sure, other than location, why they would even involve the author Collins. Seems to me a head fake to make it seem more absurd that people question the presentation?
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SOTT.net posted some good articles on this. One of their writers, Joe Quinn, paid to get the full police audio files for the day of the massacre.
Sandy Hook hoaxes and the terror of the situation
Many of the most notable events in modern (and even ancient) history have provoked some form of 'conspiracy theory'. That is to say, ordinary people were not satisfied with the official story about how the event unfolded because all or some aspects of that story simply did not objectively make sense. Despite what the mainstream media would like us to believe about 'conspiracy theories', most conspiracy theories are based on objective problems with the official narrative. But note that I said 'based on'. The problem with conspiracy theories is that, while they usually reflect a more accurate overview of a major event, they are forced to rely on theory (due to deliberate with-holding of data by official sources) rather than hard evidence (which would disqualify them as theories) and are therefore open to abuse by people who tend to use their imaginations to complete the picture rather than the more critical functions of the human mind.
Compared to other similar events where many people found the official story implausible, the Sandy Hook massacre has provoked a veritable flood of conspiracy theories, and many of them are not based on any hard evidence.
A large majority of the alternative news pundits that have attempted to independently investigate the Sandy Hook massacre have engaged in some seriously irresponsible and shoddy journalism. Among the more outlandish and baseless theories, we find the claim that "actors" took the place of the parents and siblings of the Sandy Hook victims, and that no children were murdered at all because, the theory goes, if they were, "why haven't we seen any bodies?" I've already exposed the logical fallacies in a few of these theories elsewhere, but there is one theory that still refuses to go away, perhaps because it is slightly less obviously bogus, and many people are still touting it as the single fact that "busts open" the official story as a "hoax".
The theory in question is that a man named Christopher Rodia was the REAL owner of the black Honda Civic, which has been identified as the car of Adam Lanza's mother that was found outside the Sandy Hook elementary school. The basis for this erroneous belief, still held by many, is police scanner audio that was picked up from the morning of Dec. 14th and which details Connecticut State Police response to the massacre.
I obtained the original audio files from the Radioreference.com website and had to pay a small sum for the full files. I have listened to them, and the evidence they contain can only lead to one plausible conclusion: that it is unlikely that the aforementioned Christopher Rodia had anything to do with the Sandy Hook massacre, even if his name and DOB are mentioned in the audio.
What so many of those who are searching for evidence of conspiracy at Sandy Hook have apparently missed is the fact that the audio files clearly contain police communications about MORE than just the Sandy Hook event.
In the audio streams there are several communications from Connecticut State police who are clearly not involved in the response to Sandy Hook and are just out there doing their 'normal' jobs of stopping people for no reason and catching speeding drivers.
The Connecticut State police scanner audio from the morning of Dec. 14th 2012, as provided by Radioreference.com, begins at 9.34am and lasts for one hour until 10.34am, i.e. it begins at about the time Lanza is said to have entered the school and lasts for one hour.
Below I will provide all relevant excerpts from this hour of audio, with my comments, which include the now infamous references to the license plate of Nancy Lanza's car and to Christopher Rodia.
If you wish to download this audio (which is split into two half-hour files, you can do so here (first part) and here (second part). Right click and 'save as' to your computer.
First audio segment: 9.34am - 10.04am
- At 00:15, an officer refers to an "apartment door" and says "he is not responding to me verbally". (This probably has nothing to do with SH.)
- At 1:55, an officer seems to be reading out an license plate and refers to a 'Camry' which is likely a reference to a Toyota Camry car.
- At 4:28, a female officer says "we're outside waiting for the ok to go in". (This may be the first reference to SH.)
- At 5:15, the same female officer says "it's now in lock-down". (This is most likely a reference to SH.)
- At 6:15, a female officer says: "Dickenson Drive, 12 Dickenson Drive." (This appears to be both the address of the fire-house at the entrance to the SH school driveway, which was the designated staging area, AND the address of SH school itself.)
- At 6:20, an officer says: "car is responding, the shooter is apparently still shooting in the officer area, 12 Dickenson Drive."
- At 6:47, an officer says: "personnel take exit 10 then a left on 34 then continue on Riverside Road, Dickenson Drive, make sure you have your vest on."
For the next few minutes there are various communications that seem to relate to officers arriving at SH school. At 8:39, for example, an officer asks for "directions again please", another officer then gives the same directions to SH school for officers arriving from some distance away who are clearly NOT familiar with the area. That is to say, they are out of town CT. State Police.
- At 9:18 an officer says "I have Newtown on the line yet."
- Another officer responds: "Get Newtown on the line so we are coordinating with them; they may just want us to establish a perimeter."
- At 10:45, more instructions are given about which exit to take and how to get to SH school. These are clearly not the communications of police that are familiar with the area. That is, they are not Newtown police.
- At 11:49, an officer calls out a license plate "X-ray Libra Golf, 941.″
- Then at 12:15, we hear a female officer or dispatcher say: "We've got an injured person in room number 9 with numerous gunshot wounds."
- Between 13 and 14 minutes, more descriptions of how to get to SH are given.
- At 15:00, an officer says: "negative on description, ok, shots were fired about 3 mins ago, quiet at the time."
- Then there are more descriptions of how to get to SH school.
- At 17:30, an officer says: "can you swing down here and get us a pink slip for his toll form please?" (This sounds like a communication that is NOT related to SH).
- At 18:18, an officer says: "do you have a case number on this"? (See above)
- A female responds: "number is 18264.″ (see above)
- At 18:38, an officer says: "no violation, just the same kind of complaint from yesterday that he forgot the..." (See above).
- At 19:15 an officer says: "Newtown's reporting one suspect down, the building has now been cleared." (Clearly a reference to SH)
- At 20:23 an officer says: "Dickenson 91 in the Liberty Way parking lot, reported no injuries but possible side airbag deployed." (Clearly NOT a reference to SH, but keep 'Liberty Way' in mind.)
- At 20:45, another officer says: "... motor vehicle stop..." (Do I need to explain it?)
- At 21:58, another officer says: "same location, 544 Xray Charlie Lima Connecticut 40.″
- At 22:47, another officer says: "got a speed limit sign down."
- At 25:13, more directions are given to police officers who are arriving to the scene of the SH shooting.
- At 26:24, an officer says: "33 headquarters, motor vehicle stop." The same officer repeats "motor vehicle stop."
- Immediately after this a female voice says: "12 Dickenson Drive, Dickenson Drive."
- At 27:00, the same voice that said "33 headquarters, motor vehicle stop" at 26:24, says: "722 VHA, radar." (Clearly NOT a reference to SH.)
- At 28:56, an officer says: "street, near a park, connected trailer V87 278, unsecured load." (Clearly NOT a reference to SH)
- For the next few minutes there are intermittent police communications that appear to be about the SH response.
Segment ends at 30:32.
Second audio segment 10.04am - 10.34am
- At 1:20, a female (possibly a dispatcher) says: "please respond, Liberty Way" [...] (See reference to 'Liberty Way parking lot' in first segment above).
- At 1:39, an officer says "Connecticut 872 Y Yankee, E Echo, O Oscar, 872 YEO possible suspect vehicle." (This is the license plate of the car of Nancy Lanza, the mother of Adam Lanza).
- At 2:04, an officer with a deep voice, clearly NOT the officer that made the previous 872 YEO license plate report, says: "run the eh... operator, he's a Florida license Connecticut as well, first name is Rodia, R-O-D-I-A, Christopher A. Date of birth is, eh... August 6th '69."
- For the next 8 minutes there are various communications, all of which appear to refer to SH: people being evacuated, staging areas and more directions for CT. State Troopers who are still arriving.
- Then at 10:15, an officer says: "665 YRG." This could well be yet another call from a CT. State Trooper who is NOT at SH but is still out on normal patrol and is calling in a license plate.
- At 11:34 and for the next few minutes, we have yet more directions about how to get to SH school.
- At 15:34, an officer says: "we have big furret? Connecticut 258 Yankee Yankee Hotel, 258 YYH, Laser."
- For the next 6 or 7 minutes the transmissions are all about SH; the staging areas, people coming out of the building, etc.
- At 22:02, an officer says: "763 Zula Rima Julliet, 763 TLJ Lucifer."
- At 22:36, what sounds like the same officer says: "New Jersey plates, a couple of occupants, eh... not sure where exactly on Stoneway, I got cut off on the caller..."
- At 25:12, what sounds like the same officer says: "Fat van? near 55 Stoneway when you're ready. Jersey, Charlie 6 6 Bravo SS, New Jersey, Charlie 66 Bravo Sierra Sierra, there'll be a few males in the van..."
- At 27:10, an officer says: "Ford Econoline, eh registered to the Courier car rental out of Wayne, New Jersey."
- Another officer responds: "the occupants are out of state they're doing a documentary on owl(?)-hunting in Canaan(?)"
The rest of the audio refers mainly to the Sandy Hook police response.
The two communications in bold above are what have caused many independent Sandy Hook investigators to believe they had found evidence of a "hoax". They claim that, together, the comments constitute 'clear evidence' that Christopher Rodia owned Nancy Lanza's car. But, taken in context, i.e. that both communications are part of a continuum of Connecticut State police communications on the morning of the Sandy Hook shooting that include State Police responses to the shooting AND things like traffic stops by police who are NOT involved with the response to the SH shooting, and that both types of communications are naturally interspersed... well, the rational conclusion then is that Rodia was just one of the several people who were stopped in their cars by a CT. State police officer somewhere nowhere near Sandy Hook school, as evidenced by the scanner audio.
In addition, it seems clear from the audio that some of the State police communications were coming from pretty far afield and had nothing to do with Sandy Hook; the reference to "Liberty way parking lot" in the audio, for example, most likely refers to Liberty way parking lot in Greenwich CT, which is 45 miles from Sandy Hook. The word 'Greenwich' is also spoken by a dispatcher in the above audio, although I didn't include it here. If you want to hear it you'll just have to listen to the audio yourself. If you do, you'll be among a select few individuals who have, it seems, bothered to actually listen to the audio in full.
By way of further evidence that Rodia is unlikely to be the owner of the Honda Civic, here is a copy of his consolidated property tax statement, showing that he does not own a Honda Civic. If he did, it would be on this statement:
Therefore, if someone could explain to me how a cop at Sandy Hook school could receive Rodia's details from the car license plate 872 YEO when Rodia doesn't own a car with that license plate, I'd be all ears.
And just for good measure, here's the consolidated property tax record for Rodia's wife (or maybe it's his sister, I can't remember now). She doesn't own a Honda Civic either:
The many internet news pundits and 'researchers' who have jumped on the "Sandy Hook hoax" bandwagon and relied on what has turned out to be spurious evidence that the parents were 'actors' or that Christopher Rodia owned the Honda Civic, are guilty of either neglecting to use their critical thinking abilities to engage in serious research, or are simply repeating these claims in an effort to get attention. Of course, we can't discount the possibility that someone, somewhere, has been deliberately encouraging the spread of this information in an effort to make anyone who questions, in any way, the official story of the Sandy Hook massacre look like a raving lunatic.
The fact of the matter is that there are some serious unanswered questions about the official narrative of what happened at Sandy Hook on the morning of Dec. 14th 2012. In the absence of any clarification of these outstanding questions, and taking into consideration other similar massacres and the problems with the official narrative around those, not to mention the virtual certainty that an elite cabal has existed in the USA for several decades and has been involved in assassinations, it is entirely rational to conclude, on the balance of this collective evidence, that Adam Lanza was not yet another 'lone gunman'.
I understand that people who are already well-versed in the clear evidence of duplicity of the ruling elite may have a wilful tendency to accept as fact any evidence of further elite treachery that comes their way. But in our modern era of the all-seeing eye of the national security state and tried and tested 'counter-insurgency tactics that are practiced as much at 'home' as abroad, it is prudent to be suspicious not only of the elite but also of those who, at first glance, may appear to be our allies.
As a result of my own investigation into this massacre, which involved the discovery of a large amount of bogus 'evidence' of a "Sandy Hook hoax", I have been left with a very clear understanding that the people who carried out this particular operation are very powerful indeed. Powerful beyond what most people can imagine could ever be possible. While I have little doubt (for the reasons noted above) that more than one person was involved, I also am forced to admit that the perpetrators of the Sandy Hook massacre left literally NO hard evidence of their monstrous crime. Consider the level of control that is required to leave so little evidence when carrying out a horrific massacre like Sandy Hook. In addition, the implication is that the mainstream media were in some way complicit, or at least controlled and duped. The end result is the sense of "a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that [men] had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." 1
If we are to understand anything from the Sandy Hook massacre, let it be an understanding, born of careful thought and analysis, of the true nature of the forces that are reigned against us as we engage in the fight to ensure that Truth is heard in a world dominated by lies, a world where the wanton murder of innocent children becomes all too 'normal'.
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1: This is from a speech by Woodrow Wilson:
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it. They know that America is not a place of which it can be said, as it used to be, that a man may choose his own calling and pursue it just as far as his abilities enable him to pursue it; because to-day, if he enters certain fields, there are organizations which will use means against him that will prevent his building up a business which they do not want to have built up; organizations that will see to it that the ground is cut from under him and the markets shut against him. For if he begins to sell to certain retail dealers, to any retail dealers, the monopoly will refuse to sell to those dealers, and those dealers, afraid, will not buy the new man's wares."
While it is clear that the "power" that Wilson was referring to was a business power that in this context was exerting control over "commerce and manufacture" and a "monopoly" preventing people from choosing their own business calling, it is also clear that he was referring to a power above and beyond the "biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture". To me, that's a lot of power.