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PatColo
This is the type of thing that needs to be highly questioned, and not immediately believed.
Re shadowing, and she appears lighter: Does the guy know where the light sources are placed? Is there a second light source to the right near Emily? Does the guy know? No. It's all about lighting, but he has no actual idea how the lighting was arranged in the studio.
Re Emily's head is smaller: Yes, her sisters are also fatter in the face, and her skull is vertically the same size. Emily is not as fat as her sisters is what I'm thinking. Her arms also indicate she has a lower body fat percentage.
The "smoking gun" is a piece of straw in a grainy close up that "appears" to be cut off. How long is the piece of straw? Buddy is supposed to have a mess of long straw all over his knee for the photo? Sorry, that's not a smoking gun imo.
I think this guy has his mind already made up, and is hunting for any scrap of "evidence" to support it.
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mamboni asks: what is the significance of the girl being photoshopped into the old family photos?
To me, the significance is that she probably didn't exist at all. Any photos we've seen of her are probably CGI. They have the ability to morph photos by inputting similar real images of real people. They could have easily created Emilie from the other family members photos. This goes along with the theory that nobody died, which is what I believe.
There are a lot of weird photos in this. The one of Vicky Soto on the rock - her hips are lined up right. Her torso was pasted onto someone's hips and there are other photo shop mistakes with that photo too.
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sunshine05
To me, the significance is that she probably didn't exist at all. Any photos we've seen of her are probably CGI. They have the ability to morph photos by inputting similar real images of real people. They could have easily created Emilie from the other family members photos. This goes along with the theory that nobody died, which is what I believe.
There are a lot of weird photos in this. The one of Vicky Soto on the rock - her hips are lined up right. Her torso was pasted onto someone's hips and there are other photo shop mistakes with that photo too.
Well, there are lots of photos of her on Google image search - hard to believe these are all fictitious. But, my mind remains open to any plausible explanation.
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So they'll drone bomb kids, shoot kids all the time in IL, do 9II, and claim openly it's ok to kill a non J child, even torture children now, but not shoot a few on this occasion?
They had to fake that scenario in a sleepy little town, left, right, and center till the cows come home?
Right.... The truth movement thanks you for your support.
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mamboni
Well, there are lots of photos of her on Google image search - hard to believe these are all fictitious. But, my mind remains open to any plausible explanation.
If you google "Santa Claus" you will probably find many more pictures of a jolly fat man in a red suit.
I've never met the little girl, so I have no idea as to whether or not she has ever existed.
One thing I *do* know, is that the MSM/banks/gov't/puppetmasters have an agenda to disarm the people, and that this latest spectacle has been, whether by design or fortune, a boon for those who are trying to pursue said agenda.
I don't like the television deciding what is "real" for me, so I assume that everything that comes out of that box is a lie unless/until proven otherwise.
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joboo
So they'll drone bomb kids, shoot kids all the time in IL, do 9II, and claim openly it's ok to kill a non J child, even torture children now, but not shoot a few on this occasion?
They had to fake that scenario in a sleepy little town, left, right, and center till the cows come home?
Right.... The truth movement thanks you for your support.
Is this the official position of the ADL/SPLC?
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Okay, I don't believe that the town was killed as this video suggests but he is saying that it's a ghost town and he was asked to leave when he started asking questions. I didn't get most of the audio because I'm not at home and have a noisy background but it is pretty interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nFltFOxvYLA
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Some nutty old coot sets out on foot with some hand written notes, and a camera snooping around people's property video taping everything. No wonder the cops showed up.
+1 on the "Black" helicopters are following me surveillance evasion.
Quite the eventful afternoon. I guess it would be too much to ask to have a cell phone with google maps loaded on it?
Conclusion: they all got "Auschwitzed"
What the hell did I just watch?
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mamboni
Is this the official position of the ADL/SPLC?
What are you a broken record?
It's called reality you dingbat.
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Hatha Sunahara
I have a few observations to make and questions to ask. First, how sound is the assumption that an actual shooting took place and that people were actually killed? I ask this because of the suspicion that the parents of the kids who were killed were actors.
I was quite impressed by the oddity of the parents at first, but eventually realized that I was assuming the ones I was seeing were a representative sample. Upon further reflection I think this was an error. I know that if I had my young child murdered in a random school shooting, I wouldn't be looking to get on TV: I'd be finding a hole to crawl into so I could be alone with my grief. We have heard that the parents were assigned deputies to keep the media from bothering them, so it would seem that the only ones who came before the cameras were ones who were strongly motivated to seek out the limelight.
Looked at from that perspective it doesn't seem surprising that out of forty parents of murdered children, the few who came forward included a psychopathic father, a zealot mother whose political ideology was more important to her than her child, a drugged-out housewife, and a shallow mother so excited at the chance to be on TV that she almost forgot her missing brat.
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We have Jennifer Sexton Greenberg posing as the mother of one dead child.
IIRC, the person you are talking about was supposed to be the parent of a child who attended Sandy Hook, not specifically the parent of a murdered child. Wasn't her “husband” sobbing about a dead teacher, rather than a dead child?
As bad as the news-media has gotten in this country, I don't think they would hesitate to trot out some actors to fill in bit parts of a story, or photo-shop pictures to make them fit the narrative.
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Also, why did we not see any children being evacuated from the school in the helicopter videos? Supposedly there were more than 400 kids in that school. We saw only one still picture of a few kids being led somewhere, and that picture could have been taken at any time in the past.
It took a while for the story to get out, another while for the news people to realize that they needed a helicopter, yet more time to assemble a team and get the helicopter preflighted, and still more to travel from wherever the 'copter was based to Newton. I've heard the children describe being lead out of the school and running “real fast” down to the firehouse: this wouldn't take long. I'm guessing the evacuation was complete well before the helicopter got there. In the first aerial shots we see that the police have already been stringing their yellow tape around things. They wouldn't have started that until the situation was under control and the children evacuated.
I have entertained (and been entertained by) the “complete hoax” theory of Sandy Hook; but it seems to raise more questions than it answers. If this was a scripted event, why did the story keep changing? It would be right there in the script, so it should have been easy to keep the details straight. If they wanted assault-weapons, it would have been assault-weapons right from the start. And would a total-hoax really explain the bad actors? If this was pre-planned, they could have held auditions to make sure their actors could do a credible job, given acting lessons to key people if necessary, and had rehearsals of public speaking events to make sure that everyone remembered their lines.
I would be wonderful if this had been a total-hoax, with no actual children harmed in the making thereof; but unless new evidence changes the picture I think my theory of a real shooting followed by an assault-weapon hoax fits the facts better.
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I am tending to agree with Agrippa and as much as I hate to say it Jaboo on this one. Doesn't make much sense to fake the whole thing when they have shown they are willing to kill in the past.
Logistically it would be way harder to fake and way more people would have to be in on it to pull it off. Plus like Agrippa pointed out the story would have been more consistent if they faked it.
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Still No Police Report, or Toxicology Results, on Sandy Hook Killer
January 17, 2013
By Elizabeth Harrington
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Adam Lanza photo provided by police to AP. (AP photo)
(CNSNews.com) –While President Barack Obama is moving ahead with executive orders and legislation to further tighten gun control in response to the mass murder committed by Adam Lanza at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., neither the toxicology report on Lanza's corpse nor the police report on his crime have been completed.
Lanza attacked the school on Dec. 14, killing 26 people, including 20 children. Before going to the school, he killed his mother at the home where he lived with her. When police arrived at the school during his murder spree, Lanza shot and killed himself.
A spokesperson for the Connecticut State Police told CNSNews.com on Friday that the investigation of Lanza's mass murder is ongoing and that the police report on it is still "several months away." They could not comment further because the investigation is still open.
Also, the office of the state's chief medical examiner told CNSNews.com that the results of a toxicology test on Lanza will not be available for "quite some time." Once it is completed, the office said, the cause and manner of death will be made public but not the actual toxicology report.
Despite no police report or toxicology test results, lawmakers and the president are calling for stricter gun control and mental health reforms. Obama and others have called for reinstating the 1994 “assault weapons” ban; and on Jan. 16 Obama issued 23 executive orders to further address gun violence.
Among the executive orders is one clarifying the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) so that it does not prohibit doctors from “asking their patients about guns in their homes,” and launching a “national dialogue led by [Health and Human Services and Education] Secretaries [Kathleen] Sebelius and [Arne] Duncan on mental health.”
At present, however, it is not documented that Adam Lanza suffered from a mental illness or that he was taking any medication at the time of the shooting. In fact, according to news reports, an autopsy showed that there was “nothing unusual” with Lanza’s brain, and the toxicology report is not completed.
http://cnsnews.com/sites/default/fil...0a2645bf8a.jpgPresident Barack Obama, accompanied by children who wrote the president about gun violence following last month's shooting in Newtown, Conn., signs executive orders, Wednesday, Jan. 16, 2013, in the South Court Auditorium at the White House in Washington. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)
What we do know is that Adam Lanza stole guns legally purchased by his mother, Nancy Lanza, which he used to kill her and 26 people at Sandy Hook; these firearms included two handguns and a Bushmaster .223 AR-15 rifle. That weapon is not restricted under Connecticut’s assault weapons ban unless it has added features, such as a bayonet mount or a grenade launcher, according to the Hartford Courant newspaper.
Investigators said Lanza was wearing ear plugs when he fired approximately 150 rounds using a method called “jungle taping,” in which two magazines are taped together so he could re-load faster. He also switched magazines before they were empty, sometimes only shooting 15 of the 30 rounds.
Lanza reportedly destroyed the hard drive to his computer, further complicating the investigation. A plumber who worked at the Lanza home said Adam spent hours in his basement playing violent video games, such as “Call of Duty.”
Britain’s Daily Mail newspaper reported that a former classmate said Lanza “worshipped the devil” and had an “online page dedicated to Satan.”
“The FBI are trying to piece together his smashed up hard drive to see if his online footprint will reveal any motive for the killing, but they strongly believe he made use of devil-worshiping and suicide sites and boasted of his murder plans on message forums,” according to the Daily Mail.
Lanza was from an affluent family in Newtown, Conn., where he lived with his mother, Nancy, 52, in a $1.4 million home. His father, Peter Lanza, is an executive for General Electric, and lives in Stamford, Conn. His parents divorced in 2009 and public divorce records made no mention of Lanza suffering from mental illness.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/stil...dy-hook-killer
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Sandy Hook top trend on twitter. discussing a youtube conspiracy video that just came out
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Whoaa... wait a fucking minute! Lots of lies and bullshit here:
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What we do know is that Adam Lanza stole guns legally purchased by his mother, Nancy Lanza, which he used to kill her and 26 people at Sandy Hook; these firearms
included two handguns and a Bushmaster .223 AR-15 rifle. That weapon is not restricted under Connecticut’s assault weapons ban
unless it has added features, such as a bayonet mount or a grenade launcher, according to the
Hartford Courant newspaper.
Investigators said Lanza was wearing ear plugs when he fired approximately 150 rounds using a method called “jungle taping,” in which two magazines are taped together so he could re-load faster.
He also switched magazines before they were empty, sometimes only shooting 15 of the 30 rounds.
Lanza reportedly
destroyed the hard drive to his computer, further complicating the investigation.
A plumber who worked at the Lanza home said Adam spent hours in his basement playing violent video games, such as “Call of Duty.”
Britain’s
Daily Mail newspaper
reported that
a former classmate said Lanza “worshipped the devil” and had an “online page dedicated to Satan.”
“The FBI are trying to
piece together his smashed up hard drive to see if his online footprint will reveal any motive for the killing, but
they strongly believe he made use of devil-worshiping and suicide sites and boasted of his murder plans on message forums,” according to the
Daily Mail.
This blew me away, not even sure what to make of it all. 2 guns again, AND the long gun that was in the trunk... Plumber knows what he played and how long... A former classmate?.. Online pages worshipping the devil... Where are they? And the message forums?
Am I the only one that sees that they are keeping us busy with bullshit so we argue amongst ourselves while they are busy doing something else?
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He also switched magazines before they were empty, sometimes only shooting 15 of the 30 rounds.
Anyone else feel like banging their head against a wall? They're coming up with the most precise, convoluted, stories to have "the argument" against things they want to ban, such as any magazine over 7 rounds. Obviously 30 round magazines in the shooting don't cut it for them.
edit: oh, I see they even got the 2 magazines taped together thing in there! Let me guess, he also killed a child with a machete, used a tazer to gain access to the building, used house-hold chemicals to create a smoke screen, drove un-tracked to a known terrorist gun training facility in mexico, created and ingested a powerful synthetic drug to make him super shoot accurate from information on the internet, and made all purchases solely in gold bullion and bitcoins.
It kind of makes me wonder if they want to ban games like Call of Duty. While not having much against them, I personally didn't think much of the synthetic violence and glorification of the US military. However, they do actually train millions of american kids how to behave in a real warfare situation. You probably only have to hand them a gun and they could perhaps be pretty good. Maybe they only want those types of games restricted to their lackeys.
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piece together his smashed up hard drive to see if his online footprint
The fbi can't go to his isp and get records? There is nobody in the world that had Lanza's email address where they could request access to his email account? I just can't believe what I'm reading.
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AndreaGail
Sandy Hook top trend on twitter. discussing a youtube conspiracy video that just came out
I'm twitter illiterate...I don't see the trend anywhere.
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"Over 6 million Jewish children were shot at Sandy Hook."
So please,,, for the sake of the children, turn in your weapons,
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Sandy Hook hoax is falling apart
Sandy Hook hoax is falling apart
January 18, 2013
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A sign hanging near a Newtown, CT cemetery asks why the needless killing of so many innocent people at Sandy Hook elementary school. Unfortunately, it seems the only real answers are going to come from the "alternative" media. The InfoWar has begun.
The dam finally burst this week as the mainstream media was forced to begin addressing the many very serious unanswered questions regarding the alleged Sandy Hook elementary school massacre.
Despite the fact that people questioning the official narrative has become one of the hottest media topics of the week, there's a very real possibility the right questions may never get asked in any meaningful way, at least not publicly. But with so many openly obvious anomalies, ridiculous coincidences and projected media falsehoods surrounding the event, people are figuring out what's actually happening on their own and hundreds of the largest media outlets around the country have had no choice but to talk about or, depending on who you talk to, attempt avoiding those circumstances to mostly avoid being seen as complicit.
The Sandy Hook Cover Up – Full Movie: A well documented breakdown of the timeline surrounding the Sandy Hook shooting tragedy. News, images, audio, commentary.
That's because a massive outpouring of concern over why the media has refused to report the situation accurately has caused a tidal wave of indignation around the country. Those who have actually dared to look into what others are pointing out, regarding just how much has been left out or skewed by the media, is literally waking millions to a reality they thought they'd never have to contemplate. At least, not in the US. But years of Internet erosion and the endless open-flow of unabated information has allowed the dots to be eventually connected and money trails to be followed and enough puzzle pieces have been aligned allowing the tallest of the politically savvy to start seeing over the formerly insurmountable mountain of public persuasion known as the establishment-controlled, “mainstream” media.
Once people actually go take a look, their initial feelings of anger toward “anyone who would dare disrespect the victims and their families,” by simply pointing out the obvious, quickly begins to turn into feelings of confusion and concern over such egregious misrepresentations of the facts. People can see it with their own eyes and, as a result, the Western establishment's media, on many levels, has been forced to address the growing reality that not everybody is buying into establishment propaganda any longer. As to be expected, what the media has done instead is go into damage control.
Just as they've done in countless other similar situations, while treating its followers like children, they first attack outside messengers with derogatory terminology, calling those attempting to point anything out that doesn't jive with the official narrative conspiracy “theorists” and “racists,” etc., just before twisting and misrepresenting what's being pointed out and totally avoiding that which cannot be easily misconstrued or hidden. It's actually quite transparent and easy to see the pattern.
In spite of what the media insinuates, rest assured very few ever want to believe the US government, or rogue entities within, would do such horrible things, not even so-called conspiracy “theorists.” No one wants to be forced to come to terms with their country not being what they thought it was. But when all the facts point to an alternate reality existing, as opposed to the one the media is forcing down everyone's throats, there's no choice but to start having second thoughts, regardless of how unwanted or stomach-wrenching those thoughts may be.
Quite possibly the most obvious example would be to point out that the entire gun control “debate” hinges on the fact that “assault” weapons were used to kill children and staff at the school. Even though it was reported, complete with video evidence the day after the shootings, the only so-called “assault” weapon at the scene, which actually looks more like a shotgun, had been left in the trunk of the car, and was never used. (A car that ended up not belonging to the alledged shooter, Adam Lanza, or his mother after all).
In spite of this bombshell information, the media as a whole (scriptwriters and teleprompter programmers) ran with the false assertion an assault rifle was used nonetheless and are still largely going with that fake reality today, especially on TV... Fully knowing that's not the case. Unless you just crawled out of bin Laden's cave for the first time, everyone's heard the constant drumbeat for gun “control” on almost every radio and TV station in the country, especially the argument that so-called “assault” weapons and large capacity magazines should be banned, despite not being used at the shooting. (Therefore, an assault weapons or large magazine ban would not have prevented the school shootings, regardless).
Worse, many politicians in Washington, including Obama, also ran with it like solid gold, even going as far as producing a string of over 20 executive orders Wednesday to attempt banning American's right to own the type of weapons “used at the school.” Openly lying, misrepresenting the circumstances and using it all, including innocent, (naturally-gun-hating) children on the signing stage with him, to garner emotional support for the lie.
Any takers on the chances Obama ever fesses-up to there never having been a so-called “assault” rifle inside Sandy Hook elementary school or why his administration sent literally 10s of thousands of the guns he now demonizes to Mexican drug cartels, south of the border?
Every American in the country should be absolutely outraged beyond belief over just this one aspect of the tragedy's aftermath, even if an opponent to so-called “assault” weapons ownership (if anyone can honestly define the meaning of an assault weapon and what that looks like). If nothing else, simply for being manipulated into going along with a controversial political agenda. Especially one that more (adult) Americans statistically disagree with than those who support it. Unfortunately, that's only the beginning of America's tyranny problem.
In addition to every post-Wild West statistic showing violent crime rates dropping in areas where gun ownership grew, one of the big secrets is that many alternative journalists are getting very good at knowing what to look for, recognizing patterns and seeing the signs that criminals leave behind. Just like old-school journalists used to do, prior to the age of mass-information manipulation. Back when they actually investigated and publicly analyzed every last piece of available evidence, instead of merely reading from, officially admitted, pre-scripted teleprompter copy, or a list of talking points given by “officials” on the scene, for a paycheck.
When so many people see the easy-to-find evidence for themselves, by merely going online, typing in the appropriate search term and taking an honest and objective look at all the evidence, the ability for the media to merely say whatever they want and have control over the “court of public opinion,” is slowly turning into an open info-war over the psychological acceptance of what is seen as perceived reality.
More examples show those who the media brands conspiracy “theorists” have pointed out the fact that a “crisis actor” seems to have been used for an alleged post-funeral interview and was caught laughing and joking before getting into character for the camera while live footage was rolling. But instead of addressing the more obvious example, the media created a diversion for those who refuse to go look it up for themselves, and instead focused on and made a big deal out of an entirely different individual that also seems, to those who have looked into the situation on their own, like just another crisis actor, just not quite as obvious and much easier for the media to attempt denouncing. Anderson Cooper's recent tirade is the example everyone is talking about and using as (laughably un-) “credible” material.
The more startling examples, however, are the ones the media isn't really discussing very much, for obvious reasons. The arrest of a camouflaged individual running into the woods, away from the school, as officers arrived and the fact that the “crisis actors” and officers on display, for public consumption, seem to have been pulled from an active (school shooter) drill that was ironically being held right down the road at the exact same time, are themselves cause enough to be red flag worthy. They want you to buy the excuse this was all presumably innocent oversight, however. Simply another extraordinary coincidence, where a pre-planned government exercise turns into a conveniently live event, just like 9/11 on multiple levels, just like the 7/7 London bombings and just like Sandy Hook elementary school and others.
Even though the likelihood even one of those situations going live in the exact same manner, at the same time and at the exact same location as a pre-set training drill covering the exact same scenario, much less all three, is so ridiculously miniscule you'd have a better opportunity of winning the Powerball three times. Nonetheless, if you happen to be aware of these circumstances, the establishment and its media push the idea it's all one giant coincidence and you're a conspiracy “theorist” a “racist” or a “right-wing nut-job” if you'd dare think otherwise.
Never mind the instances websites and Facebook pages, blog postings, tribute videos and victims compensations sites were officially set up or mistakenly posted days and weeks in advance of the shootings.
They also want you to believe it was just a coincidence that a massive medical drill was also being held at a local Denver-area medical school, at the exact same time the Aurora Theater shooting happened. The victims of which just so happen to have been watching a movie that referenced Sandy Hook on a map as a potential terror-target-area, who also happened to have just watched the world-premiere of a music video, moments before the movie and shootings began, showing a bunch of skeletons sitting in a movie theater. But that's all just coincidence too, officially.
Officials in Giles County, VA know better than to believe it was mere coincidence however when they were made aware their name also appeared on the same Dark Knight Rises terrorist-target-area map and subsequently shut down the entire school district recently. I guess that means all the public and school officials in Giles County would have to be considered conspiracy “theorists” as well then. Even though it's ridiculous to assume even one of these situations, much less all of them, can be mere coincidence.
The real problem is, an ugly, rabid cat is slowly ripping it's way out of a very tough bag and the only reason it's taken even this long to get out is because, deep down, no one really wants to see it (Stockholm Syndrome) and the establishment knows it and uses it to their advantage. What's worse is when people finally start seeing the animal that emerges, it's going to be more like a Mogwai (Gremlins) that Americans were fooled into giving a bath and feeding after midnight.
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More high weirdness connected to Newtown, this one linking one of 0bombers SS#s to Newtown -
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=379483
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And on a related note, I'm inclined to believe that there were people actually killed at Sandy Hook Elementary, even with participation of some parents as the Death Cult has NO problem sacrificing their own children on the altar of the bloody owl. Case in point, John Hinckley Jr.
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It's all fake. It's kinda hard to believe for some because of the numbers involved. Several thousand is a low estimate in my opinion. The only place this ever happened was in the media and in peoples imagination.
The greatest lies got the most protectors.. knowing and unknowing.
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And on a related note, I'm inclined to believe that there were people actually killed at Sandy Hook Elementary, even with participation of some parents as the Death Cult has NO problem sacrificing their own children on the altar of the bloody owl. Case in point, John Hinckley Jr.
Psychiatric exams will be curved to admit ones armed teenager to Afghanistan & other parts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRqCOIsTx8M
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Here's a series of vids by Max Igan putting this Sandy Hook incident into a larger perspective. He says the NWO is trying to provoke a civil war in America. They are prepared for such a thing and believe they can win it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwZmqd2kQ6o&list=PLiMTFp5iNlb_IweqvR3b mLff yvYNr4-M4
Hatha
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I watched part of it earlier
Between the Sandy hoax and gun control talk, there's two psycological wars going on.
People are acting funny these days
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Yes, its all about insulting intelligents into civil war.
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^ LOL...buddy seems pretty balanced.
In the same light, the media wouldn't have ammunition to go nuts if people didn't make wacky youtube video's about fake kids photoshopped with with the president before actually looking into it.
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Hatha Sunahara
This is a must-watch video. It's the end game, right here.
Considering everything we know, this is truly the only thing that makes sense.
There are two main opposing issues here:
(1) All of the evidence that this was pre-planned at the least, faked at the worst, and
(2) All of the mistakes, false reporting, and conflicting information
(1) We already know it was likely pre-planned because of the training event occurring at the same time, the sketchy background on Lanza, all of the actors involved, the fact that there were no wounded, the websites put up too early, the lack of any medical staff at the school, you get the picture.
(2) We also know that there are many confounding pieces of evidence that should have never been posted if it was pre-planned. The all of the conflicting information about which guns were used, video of people running from the school (why were they still there?), witness testimony talking about a guy in camo pants (how did he get past the fire house? why was he allowed to give interviews? why was the gunman only a few feet away in the cruiser if the interview as indeed at the firehouse?) rosen audition tape, the guy smiling, obama pictures released, image from flickr used, video footage of them opening the trunk and removing a long gun, license plate number on Lanza's car (???), etc.
The list of obvious blunders is very long, yet the fact that it was preplanned is almost inescapable. This video is the only thing that makes sense in light of these facts. Alex Jone's interview makes sense.
And the motivation and potential success for such a theory is very creditworthy, practical, and likely to succeed.
The other thing is that, as we know, the gun control timetable is way too long to be effective for tptb. Even if this Sandy Hook thing was completely legit, and even if they did get gun registration and an assault weapons ban, it would be at least 15 - 20 years before we were totally disarmed. The ONLY reasonable option for them is to have an civil war/auto-immune response where half the population is actively working against the other half.
They need active fear in the population, to turn against all truthers. That's the only effective scenario available.
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Haven't seen the video but I could see them pushing for a civil war.
I think the tide is turning and they are loosing their credibility because of the internet. They need a reason to censor the internet and arrest those that are most vocal speaking out against them. Starting a shooting war gives them justification and if they can goad patriots to start it then they can claim the moral high ground.
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How warped are they.......
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I've been trying to fit in the factor of the Oath Keepers--the Sheriffs, and other law enforcement people. Haven't pieced it together yet. With the Sheriffs, some will 'not assist' the Feds in disarming people, and others will actively impede feds trying to enforce illegal laws. It's not clear at all who's going to follow orders, and who isn't.
If TPTB incite a civil war (between the Federal government and the people) I would bet the government would win quickly. Because the population is dumbed down and not organized to resist. And brainwashed. And sold out.
I hope I'm wrong.
Hatha
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Re: Sandy Hook hoax is falling apart
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This is a must-watch video. It's the end game, right here.
Considering everything we know, this is truly the only thing that makes sense.
There are two main opposing issues here:
(1) All of the evidence that this was pre-planned at the least, faked at the worst, and
(2) All of the mistakes, false reporting, and conflicting information
(1) We already know it was likely pre-planned because of the training event occurring at the same time, the sketchy background on Lanza, all of the actors involved, the fact that there were no wounded, the websites put up too early, the lack of any medical staff at the school, you get the picture.
(2) We also know that there are many confounding pieces of evidence that should have never been posted if it was pre-planned. The all of the conflicting information about which guns were used, video of people running from the school (why were they still there?), witness testimony talking about a guy in camo pants (how did he get past the fire house? why was he allowed to give interviews? why was the gunman only a few feet away in the cruiser if the interview as indeed at the firehouse?) rosen audition tape, the guy smiling, obama pictures released, image from flickr used, video footage of them opening the trunk and removing a long gun, license plate number on Lanza's car (???), etc.
The list of obvious blunders is very long, yet the fact that it was preplanned is almost inescapable. This video is the only thing that makes sense in light of these facts. Alex Jone's interview makes sense.
And the motivation and potential success for such a theory is very creditworthy, practical, and likely to succeed.
The other thing is that, as we know, the gun control timetable is way too long to be effective for tptb. Even if this Sandy Hook thing was completely legit, and even if they did get gun registration and an assault weapons ban, it would be at least 15 - 20 years before we were totally disarmed. The ONLY reasonable option for them is to have an civil war/auto-immune response where half the population is actively working against the other half.
They need active fear in the population, to turn against all truthers. That's the only effective scenario available.
The guy nailed it in the video. This event is a test. I feel we are no longer dealing with hooded minions, but now it's the real deal.
This happened on the new moon, 7 days before Dec 21st. It's their power play, the followup to 911 and possibly bigger than 911.
As he mentions, 911 made this play possible. It woke up the smart people, the ones who will instinctually resist. It started the truther movement, and gathered people together. This event is designed to corner and destroy that group of people now. Turn the public against them, hunt them down.
It's a game of chess, and they just put us in check. We have to be really careful how we respond. This isn't about 10 million people who have guns and can defeat the government. The numbers are good, but when you have 250 million spies who basically want to hunt you down it's not promising. Guns are not the solution, just like guns don't kill people, they can't save us. The problem is people fail to take on the personal responsibility of thinking for themselves and questioning their assumptions. If the majority of people are like this, no number of guns can ever solve anything. The few people who are awake can't force everyone else to wake up. Doing so will only incite fear and cause them to be even more reactive and easily controlled. Guns are a great tool, this whole event is about a lot more than that. They're going for the jugular vein. If enough people in the truth movement can't think for themselves and fall into the trap so carefully laid, we are done for. If we overcome this, we win. Be careful. Spread this message far, it's very important imo.
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Re: Sandy Hook hoax is falling apart
This is sick:
Sandy Hook Survivors Are Made to Sing “Over the Rainbow” to Commemorate the Shooting
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Some of the children who survived the Sandy Hook school shooting recorded a version of Judy Garland’s song Over the Rainbow, one month after the massacre.
In one big media event, these young children were brought to a recording studio and made to record the song, all under the never-ceasing clicks and flashes of cameras. They then went on to perform the song on Good Morning America. The song is now on sale iTunes and Amazon.
While news sources describe this event as a “emotional healing process”, there are quite a few strange facts about this “event”. The most obvious one is: Why are these children being exposed to the public in such a way? Why are they pushed in mass media spotlight? Why are they in a recording studio with music industry people looking for publicity and made to sing a song that almost “embraces” what happened? Why isn’t this “healing process” happening in private, with friends and family? Why are iTunes and Amazon involved (yes, the song will be sold on these services for “charity” – the new word to justify exploitation)?
This is however not the most troubling part of this story. Considering the context surrounding the massacre and the possibility that the perpetrator was under mind control (as I described in Thought of the Month (01/13): Mass Shootings and Mass Media), the song choice Over the Rainbow is quite telling and, sadly, quite appropriate. As I stated in several other articles, the movie The Wizard of Oz and the song Over the Rainbow are major tools used by Mind Control handlers to program their slaves (if you have no idea what I’m talking about , please read the article entitled Origins and Techniques of Monarch Mind Control).
Through violence and trauma, slaves are encouraged to dissociate from reality and are told to go “Over the Rainbow”.
“Dorothy is looking for a place where there is no trouble which is a place “over the rainbow.” To escape pain, alters go over the rainbow.
Over the rainbow in Oz is for the Monarch slave to be in a trance, and into a certain area of the programming. To be fluctuating at both ends as an observer and not a participant or to go to the other extreme and become a participant. The theme song of the movie goes, “Somewhere over the Rainbow…there’s a land where the dreams that you dare to dream really come true.” These lyrics are a method to hypnotically confuse the brain to perceive that the “over the Rainbow experience” (which is usually horrible abuse) is a “dream”. The dissociative mind is only too happy to call the trauma a dream, which is lived as a reality for a moment, but is nevertheless recorded by the mind as a fantasy. The term for this is cryptoamnesia, which means the process where the proper functioning of memory is hypnotically messed up. The slave’s internal world becomes “reality” and the external real world becomes the Land of Oz which is perceived as make-believe.”
- Fritz Springmeier, The Illuminati Formula to Create a Mind Controlled Slave
So, in short, to “commemorate” a shooting that was carried out by a MK patsy, survivors of the shooting are made to sing (because this wasn’t of their own initiative neither was it their song choice) a song that is used to program MK slaves. All of this in one big staged media event, where the children are asked to smile and pose for the cameras. How about not exploiting these kids for BS charity and not making them further part of this horrifying ritual that was the Sandy Hook shooting?
Here’s an article about the event.
A song for Sandy Hook: Watch the children who survived school massacre’s heart-breaking recording of Over The Rainbow in memory of their lost friends and teachers
- The children, aged six to nine, recorded the Judy Garland classic on January 14
- Song released on iTunes and Amazon today with proceeds going to United Way and Newtown Youth Academy
This is the heartbreaking video of the survivors of the Sandy Hook shooting as they sing Over The Rainbow in memory of the friends and teachers they lost.
The 21 elementary school children, aged between six and nine, gathered together to sing the Judy Garland classic for charity and mark the one-month anniversary on Monday.
Some of the children had been inside the school in Newtown, Connecticut when a gunman opened fire, killing 20 children and six teaching staff on December 14.
The students appeared with singer-songwriter Ingrid Michaelson on Good Morning America today. They recorded the song at the home of two former band members of Talking Heads. The track went on sale today on Amazon and iTunes, with proceeds benefiting a local United Way and the
Newtown Youth Academy. Kayla Verga, ten, says she sang for her friend, Jessica Rekos, who was killed at Sandy Hook. She says it feels like Jessica is beside her, singing along with her.
The song was recorded at the home of musicians Tina Weymouth and Chris Frantz, who performed with bands Talking Heads and Tom Tom Club. The Song for Sandy Hook was recorded at the couple’s home studio in Fairfield, Connecticut while parents looked on. The little girls wore green ribbons in their hair and pinned to their sweaters to remember their friends and teachers.
Mr Frantz told the
Daily News: ‘It was emotional, absolutely. But the kids were resilient. They loved to sing and they were good at it.’
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Moving tribute: The children, aged six to nine, appeared with singer Ingrid Michaelson on GMA this morning
Source:
Daily Mail
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The fact that those children were made to sing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" just has MKULTRA/MONARCH written all fucking over it.
They are rubbing it in the faces of those who are familiar with mind control and the SOP of communists in general.
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a few hit pieces,
Salon: Your comprehensive answer to every Sandy Hook conspiracy theory
Rappoport counters ^, Salon.com Attacks Jeff Rense And Jay Weidner by Jon Rappoport https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...nd-jay-weidner
'Sandy Hook Truthers' Crank Their Gun-Nuttery Up to the Max
A vile conspiracy theory is gaining traction in the gun rights community.
Jesse Ventura–Beware of Conspiracy Theories About Sandy Hook
Journalist Shills Give FBI, Links To Cyber-criminals Defaming Sandy Hook Victims
Columbia, S.C.--A group of journalists have responded to requests for help by law enforcers in Connecticut and the FBI, concerning the widely reported defamations of Sandy Hook victims, by so-called "conspiracy theorists."
PRLog (Press Release) - Jan. 21, 2013 - Columbia, S.C.--A group of journalists have responded to requests for help by law enforcers in Connecticut and the FBI, concerning the widely reported defamations of Sandy Hook victims, by so-called "conspiracy theorists."
Law enforcers broadcast pleas for assistance when the families and friends of the Sandy Hook victims were harassed, stalked, ridiculed, and defamed by so-called "conspiracy theorists," who the journalists evidence operate a commercial enterprise enriched by the controversy, publicity, and increased "traffic" to web-stores operated by the gang members.
Contrary to the "conspiracy theorist" label, the cyber-criminals victimizing the people of Sandy Hook who have suffered unspeakable horrors, are a half-dozen well-organized professional propagandists, led by a Utah "businessman" espousing anti-government, anti-Semitic, white supremacy theology in blogs and videos that drive sales of products, like "Nuke Israel" tee shirts and baby bibs.
Read more here
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Children are a very effective battering ram. I see the marxist swine use them to loosen up on immigration policies here very often.. it's not enough for them that 50% of the first graders in the schools of our capital are immigrants.. More they say. (official number.. a real estimate is probably higher)
Yes, the feminized masses fall for it every time.
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a few hit pieces,
Salon:
Your comprehensive answer to every Sandy Hook conspiracy theory
Rappoport counters ^, Salon.com Attacks Jeff Rense And Jay Weidner by Jon Rappoport
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2...nd-jay-weidner
'Sandy Hook Truthers' Crank Their Gun-Nuttery Up to the Max
A vile conspiracy theory is gaining traction in the gun rights community.
Jesse Ventura–Beware of Conspiracy Theories About Sandy Hook
Journalist Shills Give FBI, Links To Cyber-criminals Defaming Sandy Hook VictimsColumbia, S.C.--A group of journalists have responded to requests for help by law enforcers in Connecticut and the FBI, concerning the widely reported defamations of Sandy Hook victims, by so-called "conspiracy theorists."
PRLog (Press Release) - Jan. 21, 2013 - Columbia, S.C.--A group of journalists have responded to requests for help by law enforcers in Connecticut and the FBI, concerning the widely reported defamations of Sandy Hook victims, by so-called "conspiracy theorists."
Law enforcers broadcast pleas for assistance when the families and friends of the Sandy Hook victims were harassed, stalked, ridiculed, and defamed by so-called "conspiracy theorists," who the journalists evidence operate a commercial enterprise enriched by the controversy, publicity, and increased "traffic" to web-stores operated by the gang members.
Contrary to the "conspiracy theorist" label, the cyber-criminals victimizing the people of Sandy Hook who have suffered unspeakable horrors, are a half-dozen well-organized professional propagandists, led by a Utah "businessman" espousing anti-government, anti-Semitic, white supremacy theology in blogs and videos that drive sales of products, like "Nuke Israel" tee shirts and baby bibs.
Read more here
The pushback! It will be illegal to question the official version of events.
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I think Jesse Ventura nailed it, but then again maybe he's just another Zionist operative advising people to not question anything from above... o)(~
https://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2...ut-sandy-hook/
" Those of us who study real history, not state sanctioned history, can very easily become just as close minded and biased for conspiracy as those who stand in our way and refuse to accept the truth about our government and the people running it.
It’s very easy to fall into that trap, especially when knowing how much of our history and world events are not what they appear to be. So please, do not immediately jump up and yell “Fire!” just because someone makes a Youtube video. Research, research, research. You only hurt our cause by promoting false conspiracies and crackpot agendas."
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One could easily turn it into the fact that authorities aren't doing their job properly, without the conspiracy notion, just like 911.
But then again the catch 22 is that they'd request another oversight commission along the lines of DHS, BATF, TSA, FBI, or CIA to really corrupt and paste things over into a real conspiracy along the lines of Project Gunrunner and such expansions of BATF into all encompassing FATF or individual SATFAs.