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· HOW TO KILL A SMALL TOWN
Deceipt, deception, Steve Grasty.

Chris Briels leads the recall effort of the town tyrant

Om a fact finding trip recently in Eastern Oregon, I had three areas of interest.First was to attend a corruption conference in Baker City, Oregon which was so detailed and eye popping I’m still going over mountains of evidence provided by Lazaro Ecenarro who travelled here from Florida to investigate several charges of corruption from County Commissioners, Sheriffs, media people and even the Governor’s office. He had the distinct advantage of being from another State where the people he investigated have no jurisdiction over him. Consequently, he handed over an enormous amount of evidence and allegations.

Next the trek was to Owyhee reservoir and River in the South Eastern corner of Oregon a two hour drive from Baker City. It’s remarkable how everything is a two hour drive over there. The Obama administration along with Keen Footware of Portland and (shocking) Steve Grasty want to declare it a Monument which is very bad for Ranchers and residents of that region as well as very bad for Hunters, Sportsmen, ATV access and many forms of recreation. We’ve seen this happen many times in other areas and it severely limits access to the public on land that is ours to access.

Last was to Visit Owyhee 120 miles Southeast to Grassy Mountain near Vale, roughly 150 miles around the bottom of the Owyhee Canyon Lands and back up towards Burns. There is a proposed deep pit mine on the Western side of Owyhee in a remote area 30 miles from Vale.To get from the East side of Owyhee Reservoir to the West side requires a long detour to the North or the South. Given my position near Adrian, I chose the Northern Route. After the long drive off road visiting Grassy Mountain I drove through the Darkness on dirt roads back to Vale a bit late to find Lodging in either of the two Motels unavailable.

Next closest town for Lodging… Burns, 2 hours away. For those of you who think it sounds romantic to travel the Eastern side of the State top to bottom turning stones, looking for rats, I guess at times it is. But there are also those times when you’ve driven dirt roads all day and night only to find your eventual refuge for the night is full leaving you a two hour drive to Burns at 11:30 pm. In Burns the next morning, since I was there I looked up a fellow whom I had met a couple times previously.

Mr. Chris Briels first came on my radar in January when I watched him announce his resignation from the position of Harney County Fire Marshall. He had also held the position of Burns Fire Chief previously.

What was most interesting to me was that he made his announcement from the Malhuer Refuge standing shoulder to shoulder with Ammon Bundy and LaVoy Finicum. I watched a clip of this on social media as I belief the National media and even most local news sources censored the story and the video. If you haven't seen it in it's entirety, watch it.

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Subsequently to seeing that video I made my first investigative trip to Burns shortly after they took over the Refuge. The first person I ran into in town that I recognized was Chris Briels. I found him to be very gracious, accommodating and brutally honest. He’s one of those matter of fact, dead honest, straight forward people who manages to mix even the harshest narrative with dignity. I guess you could say I took to him right away and from that point forward there has never been a trip to Burns where I didn’t run into him somewhere but generally with just enough time for quick cordials and we each had to be on our way.

Finding myself back there inadvertently and with no particular deadlines, I thought I’d call him and ask for a meeting to catch up on current events.

Before I could dial him, my phone rang and I commenced a long, intense phone conversation with Lazaro Ecenarro about the Grassy Mountain Project and many of the implications. The topic then drifted to the Hammonds and a few hours later we were on a conference call with Mrs. Hammond. I’d like to say I’m completely objective and unaffected by the subject matter I’m researching but it simply isn’t so. I happen to be passionately offended by injustice and there is no greater injustice in recent times in my opinion than the imprisonment of the Dwight and Steven Hammond, the Murder of LaVoy Finicum and the incarceration of those at the Refuge. There simply isn’t enough time to document all the injustice and the associated anxiety is sometimes overwhelming.

The long Phone session took me through breakfast, through lunch and into the late afternoon hours all while basking in the luxury of the Silver Spur Hotel. Upon conclusion of our epic conversation I was completely spent, re- agitated, famished and ready to sit quietly and process all I’d just heard. As I made my way to The Apple Peddler in Burns and ordered Breakfast, lunch and dinner, I thought again of Chris Briels and gave him a call.

I missed him, left a message, devoured a meal Just in time to see his returned call.

He had been dealing with a matter involving the Finicum memorial site and was anxious to come talk about it so I waited there for him. Burns is a small town and he was there inside of 10 minutes. I could see the fire in his eyes as soon as he arrived and he quickly began telling me of the desecration of the memorial site again, this time by a member of the local Sheriff Dept. There is speculation that this wasn’t his first time tearing it down and hauling away several crosses, flowers, flags, Cowboy Hats, and an enormity of sentimental items left by those who were inspired by his message. The Deputy who arrived as the concrete was setting and yanked the newly built solid steel large cross was Lucas McClain. He cited legal references claimed it to be “litter”, pulled it out and hauled it away. Chris was noticeably disturbed by this as was I so we spent some time marveling at the gaul of a County Sheriff who would allow such rogue behavior from one of his Deputies.

Chris is a pretty intense and passionate person and has a refreshing, non filtered way of speaking that I appreciate. It reminds me of a time in my life when that was just the way people were. Most had no agenda to sell you or propaganda, ulterior motives or any concern of offending people with their commentary. It was not incredibly unusual in my youth to settle a disagreement with a round of fisticuffs followed by a beer and some newfound comradery. It worked, it was brief and it was finished.

We’ve been det-uned to the point now you can’t say a dammed thing without someone having been given the privilege of taking offense to the slightest tone variation. Slowly, I’ve seen it vanish with World War II veterans, then the boomers, now to the point where most have been infected with the PC poison so badly they are afraid to say or do anything which might ruffle any feathers. Chris somehow missed the PC Vaccine and speaking with him is a reminder of how we should all be. He exhibits rage , emotion, and compassion freely, without restraint and doesn’t pause for consideration of fear in any matters of business which needs to be addressed.

He told me the details of his run in with Steve Grasty and about his encounter with undercover FBI operatives spreading fear in the Burns community. He confronted two such men who said they were just considering a business venture in Burns. When he called their bluff and called the Police department he learned that they were covert implants from the FBI. While addressing this with Steve Grasty he was told he was basically old and useless by Grasty, and not capable of being a threat to anyone. Grasty then told him it would be best for him to go home and assume his role of being out of the way. As you might imagine based on my description of him, this wasn’t received passively and he promptly wrote a letter of resignation on the spot and handed it to Grasty.

He quickly recognized their strategy of trying to overstate the threat of the Patriots at the Refuge. He witnessed the influx of Law Enforcement and was astonished at their attempts at creating fear in the community.

I enjoyed hearing him describe the very theatre of fear that I had witnessed. Grasty and Company Blew this up from the beginning, called begging Governor Brown for massive support and spread the false narrative that the whole town was under siege by the handful of peaceful protestors at the Refuge some 35 miles away.

This has to have been the biggest sham ever perpetrated in the History of Governed corruption as they first told all of the BLM workers to leave town for fear of their lives and paid them to flee to other towns complete with paid Hotels , paid leave etc all at the expense of the generous American Taxpayer. Briels own Daughter, who works for a branch of Government in the area was told she was under extreme threat by the Patriots and was forced to take a body guard to the office where she worked because they told her the threat of harm was so great that she could not be left alone. They had her so afraid that she broke in tears explaining to her Father that she was truly afraid for her life and shared with him that it was much bigger than he knew. When he tried to explain to her that it was just a fear tactic of her employer She was so convinced of the danger that she refused to talk to him anymore because he dared to speak with Bundy.

I personally have never been so disgusted as to hear how they orchestrated massive unrest and fear in the community and used the media like pawns to portray a town in siege, civilians under attack by armed militants, and a poor defenseless community so badly disrupted by the hostile, crazed, anti- Government “whacko’s “ attempting to overthrow the United States Government from their fortified stronghold 35 miles away.

It was the most astonishing lie and false narrative I’ve ever witnessed and Chris described what it was like being in the middle of it all as being surreal and unbelievable. He talked of how they deceived and lied and pandered to the Highest office in the Country to come save them from the uncontrollable massive force of 15 or so TERRORISTS intent on killing and maiming the townspeople of Burns.

Of all the mistakes Grasty made in orchestrating this debacle and the ensuing Murder of an innocent and decent man, I think his biggest error in judgement may have been the egregious disrespect and offensive verbal assault he cast on Chris A long standing resident and community servant respected by all of Harney County, Chris promptly helped form an assembly of townspeople to address the matter of deceit and underhanded business which was rapidly developing in Burns at the hands of Patterned after the Historical “Citizens of Safety Committee“ of Common Law not so long ago in America, the group of attendees fluctuates between 40 and 150 people who meet weekly and discuss the problems and methods of fixing them. On the forefront of problems was Steve Grasty and his pattern of lies, deceit and his sellout to the Bureaucracy of the Feds at the expense of the vitality of Burns and Harney County. A quick look at the once booming and thriving town of Burns reveals a town which now appears to be against the ropes. There are massive commercial vacancies throughout town and little to no hope of recovering the lost momentum which once thrust them to the peak of income earners in the entire State of Oregon. Under the influence of Steve Grasty and Federal overreach on Logging, Ranching, Mining and all the downstream industry they all generate, the town is now in the lowest income bracket for Oregon. It’s so disheartening to hear of the once bustling Logging industry that thrived here.

Because of their proximity to the vast forest lands that fed the towns Edward Hines Lumber Mill, they produced over 1 million Board Feet of lumber per day in the largest undercover lumber mill in the world, according to Briels. He also pointed out that all that lumber had to be moved somehow so a railway was built and delivered lumber all over America, originating directly from Burns. It was very innovative for it’s time and thr railway ran right through the mill so the entire train could be loaded undercover. Now all that remains is the giant smoke stack that sets idle and several behemoth vacant buildings. He told me of one such building that was acquired by a local Rancher who purchased it at a bargain basement price so low that when he was forced to remove all the electrical power from the building in order to use it for hay storage, he sold the massive amount of copper wiring in it for an amount $ 75,000 in excess of what he paid for the building. They even removed the railway some years ago so there’s little hope for a revitalization effort. Years of this federalized strategy has crippled this once robust town and Grasty has lead the way. He appears cut and molded to tow the federal line at cadence.

Although the emaciated logging industry precedes him, he walks hand in hand in full cooperation of a system of Government that will never allow for a town such as Burns to regain it’s former splendor. If they have any hope of rebuilding and revitalizing our small towns, they need to break free from the binds of the Federal strategy which is exactly what Bundy, Finicum and Company were there to help them do.

It’s no wonder Grasty was so threatened by them and went to such extreme lengths to have Finicum Murdered and the rest incarcerated. They indeed were a threat to Steve Grasty. A threat to his empire of deceit and control. A threat to his secretive involvement with BLM deals, Golf Courses, unusually cheap land grabs, and bountiful palm greasing. Bundy and Finicum were revealing all the lies, all the deceit, all the injustice to Good and decent people like the Hammonds who endured long enough to take abuse from two different Sheriffs under the cold grasp of Steve Grasty. They were travelling from town to town, reaching people all across America via blogs, facebook, twitter, Instagram and social media everywhere, bestowing the crime of hope and giving them the actual tools to build on that hope. Sadly, In the end, the goliath defeated their minion foe, for this town, for this day. They effectively silenced the message of hope for every small town in America just as it was beginning to be heard.

But as long as there are the Chris Briels out there, they have not defeated the heartbeat of small town America. They have merely stirred a deep rooted passion in a Country a County, a town and a Man. A Man in this town of Burns who has accepted the torch and with it the role of a leader. Not a titled leader that has no respect and must impose his will on a people but one that hears the peoples will and has their respect, needs no title, and pays them for their respect with results. Chris Briels may or may not yet know he’s a leader, we never discussed it. Burns and Harney County may not know it yet, but I know it and he’s exactly the kind of leader this town, this County and this Country for that matter needs. Straight talk, determination, honesty and integrity. So Simple, so effective.

As of this writing, Steve Grasty has been successfully recalled. He, of course, refuses to step down as he has no connection with or appreciation of the majority of the County he is supposed to serve. So, he'll be forced into a special election at the end of the month where because of the special assembly of community members and the efforts of them and Chris Briels, the Voters decide whether to give him a swift kick off of his throne with, hopefully, a healthy dose of feathers and tar. I’m sure he’s basing his hope on the fact that 60% of the residents of his voting base are employed with the Federal Government.

But even they have to see what he has done, how he embarrassed them in front of the world and how he is simply bad for the County. Or is a Golf course on land sold to him by BLM that was developed by the taxpayer a good thing while he pockets the proceeds?Is flooding out Ranchers to steal their land a good thing?Is purposefully dragging a town down into chaos and purposefully instilling fear in the community a good thing?

There is a long list of ridiculous infringements which I haven’t vetted yet so I won’t print them until their validated but on the pure, raw, details that we know as fact outlined here he should be given the boot with a little extra zeal. I hope the good people in Harney County are aware and paying attention. It’s in their hands and this is exactly the type of thing ALL counties should be doing to insure that THEY control their County as it is meant to be.

Through efforts like this and people like Chris Briels, Ammon Bundy and LaVoy Finicum, it is possible to begin the process of repairing the damage. Left to their own devices, these towns will thrive and blossom once again as they once did. People are ingenious and intuitively capable of building, growing and protecting the environment they reside in. Towns are not designed to die. They are not to be lifeless and poor and struggling. They should by nature be growing, replenishing and flourishing. It’s only when their being choked out by federal authority that they fail and become emaciated. Why are so many small towns dying before our eyes? They have the natural resources that spawned their success originally. All wealth comes from the soil, all of it. Name one product that can be produced free of Mother Earth. You can’t.

The foreign enterprise of the United States Government wants control of the land because he who controls the land controls the water. Whoever controls the water has supreme control. People are basically good by Nature. They are capable of dealing with their own water rights and we have been given a constitutional system to regulate that perfectly well on our own. Whenever you give a Government power over a people you have oppression, Tyranny, strife and death. It’s dysfunctional and it has an insatiable appetite for more and it devours it’s own people. History has demonstrated this time and time again.

When you have a people with authority over their Government you have balance and peace which is what the constitutional system is designed to do. If a Rancher, a Farmer, a town or County owns the land outside of the Government authority, the Federal oppressor cannot control them. The only way they can seize our State lands is if we hand it to them willingly which is what Steve Grasty, Ron Weiden, Jeff Merckly and Kate Brown all have in mind. Recalling Steve Grasty won’t fix the problem but it’s an enormous start. Chris Briels is currently leading the charge in Burns and Harney County. Others are forming in other towns across Oregon and America.

They will try to stop this. They cannot and they know it, but they’ll bear down on anyone they can to slow it down.They know that people have a tolerance level and they try to play the game staying just short of an uprising. The one thing they hadn’t considered was the information technology which allows people to share their stories and experiences and realize that their being played as fools. Americans are patient and tolerant but they are also fierce when pushed beyond their window of tolerance.

The decision remaining to be made is do we correct this now, peacefully with a stand in every small town and city against the illegality of this process?Do we legally and rightfully resist the outlaws which are conning us into believing we no longer have any rights? Or do we wait and fight another bloody War because that is the only other possible outcome if we let it ride. Our children will be left to fight and spill blood and die for our lack of willingness to hold the legal ground which we own. Chris Briels knows it, many are learning it, I am learning it.This can be done peacefully, legally and under the laws of the land and the Constitution we were blessed with. Any attempts to tell you that Christians, Constitutionalists and those seeking freedom are terrorists or lawless are attempts at deception and you should immediately consider the source to be in on the sham.

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The government is losing a key witness against Pete Santilli. The witness said "maybe I was confused" . . . . . .

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Oregon Prosecution To Lose Key Witness Testimony Against Pete Santilli

Did the Government knowingly allow a witness to make false statements to a Grand Jury that secured an indictment against Pete Santilli?

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KEY WITNESS NOW CLAIMS

HE MAY HAVE BEEN CONFUSED


Pete Santilli’s attorney Thomas Coan, has filed a motion to suppress the key prosecution testimony of a man who claimed he observed Santilli at a Harney County Committee of Safety meeting on December 22, 2015. The man, who is a member of the committee, told the FBI that not only did he observe Mr. Santilli at the meeting, he also heard him actively participate in a conversation where initial plans were made to take over the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge.

Pete Santilli denies being in Harney County on December 22, 2015. The prosecution’s own evidence backs Mr. Santilli up; Bank debit/transactions, internet activity – of his live streamed Morning Show – from the IP address of his studio in Cincinnati, and eyewitness accounts – all put Santilli in Cincinnati, Ohio – when the Tuesday night meeting in Harney County, Oregon was said to have taken place.
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The witness told defense investigators, he may have been confused when he spoke to the FBI and now he isn’t sure if Pete Santilli was there or not. “I may have been wrong about Pete being there. I may have gotten the meeting confused with the “public” meeting I saw him at in January, after the takeover.”

The public meeting the witness is talking about in January, was nearly a month after the supposed December meeting, and was live streamed to the public.

This admission may also raise questions as to whether or not the witness’s testimony will be reliable if he is testifying for the Prosecution against Santilli’s co-defendants.

It is possible this witness’s testimony could prove to be an even bigger problem for the Prosecution if his testimony was used to help secure the Grand Jury indictment for Mr. Santilli’s subsequent charge and arrest.

Under United States v. Basurto, the government has a constitutional obligation to inform the court, counsel, and the grand jury about false statements, and that its failure to do so requires dismissal of the indictment. In Basurto, the Ninth Circuit held that

the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment is violated when a defendant has to stand trial on an indictment which the government knows is based partially on perjured material, and when jeopardy is not attached. Whenever a prosecutor learns of any perjury committed before the grand jury, he is under a duty to immediately inform the court and opposing counsel – and, if the perjury may be material, also the grand jury – in order that appropriate action may be taken.

The grand jury’s historic role has been to serve as a protective buffer standing between the ordinary citizen and the overzealous prosecutor’s [possibly like Ethan Knight]. The reality that grand jury proceedings are “secret, re parte and largely under the control of a “federal prosecutor” should magnify counsel’s concern regarding the propriety of the investigation or usurpation of power by the prosecutor is called into question. Trusting that the system will always work without judicial interference or that any problems can be addressed later in litigation is naive. Source Article

Did the Government knowingly allow a witness to make false statements to a Grand Jury that secured an indictment against Pete Santilli? It is hard to believe otherwise considering the government through it’s own admission, obtained a search warrant to surveil Mr. Santilli since before last December and knew exactly where he was on the 22nd.

If the witness did not testify to the Grand Jury, were his statements used in an argument to get the indictment? And why, after knowing Pete Santilli couldn’t have possibly been in Harney County on the 22nd, did Prosecutors allow the false accusation to stay in the discovery, possibly tainting the Judges view of Mr. Santilli’s role in the January occupation of the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge?

Judge Anna Brown was advised of the findings on Wednesday by Defense Attorney Amy Baggio, who was temporarily representing Pete Santilli during the monthly progress hearing in Portland Oregon. The Government has asked for a week to look into the new findings before the Judge rules on the matter.

Along with the Motion to Suppress Tom Coan, is now considering his clients full options after this discrepancy was revealed in discovery and presented to the Court.
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The newspaper article makes no reference to LaVoy Finicum. Portland is in Multnomah County. The police chief and DA would have no connection to the murder of LaVoy in Deschutes County. I think the facebook poster is misinformed.



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Attention:
SHARE NOW!!! CONFIRMED!!!
PLEASE, SUPPORTERS, GET DOWN THERE WITH YOUR FLAGS AND REMIND HER WHAT COUNTRY SHE IS IN!!!!
At 10 am PORTLAND OR Kate Brown gives a news breif in front of the court house a chef of police is resigning and the chef DA is being forced out of office she's gonna be in front of city hall at 10 am all over LaVoy's shooting..
Boots are already on the ground..



Police chief's top aides under scrutiny

http://gold-silver.us/forum/safari-r...3549343450.jpgAs the state investigation of Chief Larry O’Dea’s shooting of a friend continues, a parallel city probe has expanded its focus to include his four top aides at the police bureau.


One of the four assistant chiefs now under investigation by the city’s civilian oversight unit, Donna Henderson, was designated acting bureau chief by Mayor Charlie Hales on May 24, after the O’Dea investigation was launched.


Henderson, as well as her peers Mike Crebs, Bob Day and Kevin Modica, have been notified that the Independent Police Review division considers them “involved members” in the O’Dea probe, meaning they are suspected of violating bureau policies, according to sources who spoke on condition of anonymity.
The situation is unprecedented in modern Portland history.


The four, like O’Dea, have been issued gag orders and are forbidden to discuss the situation.


Bureau spokesman Pete Simpson declined to comment, citing the pending investigation by the Independent Police Review division, which is overseen by the elected Portland auditor, Mary Hull Caballero.


The new wrinkle in the Independent Police Review probe could have ripple effects regardless of its outcome. The situation developed as Hales is expected to soon name an interim chief to lead the bureau for what could be a long time.

For administrative and political reasons, Hales may want the interim chief to be someone other than the four assistant chiefs currently under investigation.

O’Dea is on leave as he is investigated over the shooting, which took place April 21 while he was on a camping trip in Harney County. When asked about it at the time, he suggested to a Harney County Sheriff’s deputy investigating the shooting that his friend’s wound was self-inflicted, according to the deputy’s report.


The state Department of Justice is investigating the shooting to determine whether a crime occurred. Meanwhile, on May 20, the city’s civilian watchdog, the Independent Police Review division, launched an investigation to interview witnesses and determine whether Portland Police Bureau policies were violated.
Negligent wounding of another person is a crime. As far as the IPR’s review of whether internal policies were followed, police officers are required to be truthful. If O’Dea is found to have lied, he could face discipline or even termination and lose his state law enforcement certification.


Because the four assistant chiefs are not represented by any union, they are expected to retain lawyers to address the IPR probe.


Why they are now under scrutiny remains unclear. It has been widely reported that O’Dea informed them, as well as Hales, of the shooting on April 25. Under city code, IPR was supposed to be notified, but was not.


The bureau, O’Dea and Hales have been criticized for not opening an investigation until after news of the shooting was broken by Willamette Week. IPR could be investigating the early handling of the case.


Since IPR launched its probe on May 20, it’s likely that some or all of the assistant chiefs have been interviewed by IPR. Any discrepancies could have sparked follow-up investigation by IPR to determine whether one of the officials was untruthful.


A spokeswoman for Hales on Monday declined to comment for this story, citing the open investigation. IPR director Constantin Severe also declined to comment for the same reason.


During the April incident, O’Dea and his friends had been lined up in camping chairs, shooting at ground squirrels, or sage rats, they told the Harney County investigator who responded to the scene.
Days later, after the wounded man underwent medical treatment, he told the investigator that O’Dea called him to admit he shot him accidentally. O’Dea reportedly told his friend the gun had been misfiring all day.


The incident and subsequent leadership uncertainty comes as the bureau is beleaguered on several fronts, including poor morale, low staffing, and loss of veteran officers to retirement and other agencies.


Meanwhile, contract negotiations are underway that could boost pay and settle union grievances, such as one claiming officers are being put in unsafe situations due to the lack of backup.


Many observers are skeptical O’Dea will regain the chief’s job, regardless of the investigation’s outcome. Mayor-elect Ted Wheeler has in the past expressed interest in conducting a national search for a new chief.


Depending how long that search takes, observers say, the new interim chief could hold the job for a year to 18 months.

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Were there mercenaries in Burns, Oregon??
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“We Are Here To Assist The Sheriff”: Was There A Presence Of Mercenaries During Occupation In Burns Oregon?


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Article I – Reality Hidden Behind the
Label of “Security Firm”


PREFACE 1 – Lest We Forget Why There Was An Occupation
This article – and those that follow, will attempt to bring awareness to the original purpose of the protest and the root issues behind the events in Oregon during the January 2016 Occupation;
The Occupation exposed an over-reaching federal government that has been exerting extra-constitutional authority over land and resources within the boundaries of states through contracts and secret deals with corporations (foreign and domestic) and over some residents in those states. As well these articles will attempt to shed light on how the overreach, harassment and abuse of residents was, and still is allowed to persist because these corporate entities are not bound by limitations of the U.S. Constitution, but instead by business policies decided on by corporate executives and board members.


PREFACE 2 – Original Intent
In January 2016, ranchers, patriots, sympathizers, and concerned residents of Burns, Oregon brought attention to the growing distortion of the U.S. Constitution and the extension of authority by the federal government when they planned a rally and protest in Oregon. The rally focused on the western ranchers, Dwight and Steven Hammond that were harassed by federal agencies for years and later tried, convicted and sentenced twice for federal charges brought against them by the United States Department of Justice.


The planned protest, an act of civil disobedience, was lead by Ammon Bundy. Ammon is the son of rancher Cliven Bundy who has also suffered harassment by federal agencies. The planned protest was to occur after the rally ended on January 2nd – however; Since many of those that attended the rally knew nothing of the plans, confusion ensued while they attempted to figure out what was going on and what part – if any, they wanted to take in the protest that was now occurring on federal managed property. From the beginning rumors and unfounded speculation were spread through Harney County by mainstream media who immediately labeled the protestors as anti-government militia members.


As a result, many that attended the rally and those watching via the internet live stream aired by Pete Santilli and his crew, chose not to participate in the protest, while a small group of men and women left the rally and headed to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge about thirty miles outside of Burns.

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MERCENARIES IN BURNS, OREGON

A few weeks into the protest unknown men dressed in military-like garb were spotted around the town of Burns and exposed by citizens [Film The Police – Portland] who were acting as independent media. The mysterious men bore no patches on their gear stating which federal agency they were a part of, and when spoken to or asked, they refused to identify who they were or the agency they worked for.


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The circumstances brought to light that many of them were not federal agents at all but employees of private security firms (mercenaries), which had been contracted by the federal government to aid local and federal employees to end the protest and occupation of the federal wildlife buildings, and to secure private interests in the resources of the lands in Oregon.

The dangerous revelation was ignored by mainstream media as well as many reporters in alternative and the independent media realm. After the death of protestor Lavoy Finicum, the people following the protest from the comforts of their home were steered towards focusing on the circumstances surrounding his death, the arrest of those that were accompanying Lavoy that day, and the surrender of the remaining protesters left at the wildlife refuge; Forgetting that mercenaries not bound by Constitutional limits were involved.


After the death of LaVoy Finicum and arrest of occupation leaders, the story that compelled the men and women to occupy The Malheur Wildlife Refuge in protest faded away into the background and so did the exposure of mercenaries that were filmed on the ground just days before the fatal ambush outside of Burns on highway 395.

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Chaos in Portland coutroom. Judge Anna Brown loses composure . . . .



Ammon Bundy Demands His Right To Be Heard In Portland Courtroom Judge Loses Her Composure

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HER COURT WAS OUT OF ORDER


High drama is what took place in the Portland Courtroom of Judge Anna Brown today when once again Ammon Bundy refused to sit down when being ordered to do so after she denied his motion for a continuance. The judge said she couldn’t grant the Bundy brothers a delay without a showing that the two, who had initially insisted on a trial starting in April and opposed the court’s designation of the case as complex, couldn’t prepare for trial within the next nine weeks. She found it difficult to accept that the Bundy brothers — the “loud and clear leaders in this case from the beginning” — wouldn’t have time to prepare for trial by Sept. 7 and rejected their motions for any delay.

The room was filled with animosity between Brown, Ammon Bundy, and Bundy’s attorney Marcus Mumford. That tension quickly escalated into a dramatic confrontation between Bundy and the Judge, said one courtroom observer. A shouting match ensued between the two that caused the Judge to lose her composure and briefly lose control of the courtroom when the gallery full of supporters joined Mr. Bundy in his reprimand of the Judge.

Ammon stood up and just started to speak when the Judge shouted at him to sit down. Speak to me through your attorney, she said. She rose to her feet flailing her arms and was yelling at him — Her face was pretty red and full of anger – She was visibly pissed off – Ammon was yelling back at her telling her that it was unfair that he was always being told to shut-up and sit down. He was tired of being told to be quiet and having his right to be heard dismissed by her — Then it felt like the whole courtroom kind of joined in the yelling — the Marshalls’ were all on their feet and took someone out — it got pretty crazy there for a
second —

To regain control of herself and the proceeding, Brown cleared the courtroom by calling a brief recess and shortly after returned to continue with the “ex parte hearing” without the Government or spectators. That hearing is said to have gone better.


Several other things were brought to light in today’s hearing as well as the Judge and Ammon Bundy’s apparent lack of patience for one another; Shawna Cox told the Court she was ready to part with her attorney and join the ranks of Ryan Bundy and a few others by representing herself when the trial gets underway.


Peter Santilli and his attorney Tom Coan were told by the Prosecution, they will not be calling witness Kevin Johnson to the stand during Santilli’s portion of the trial. Kevin Johnson is the man who falsely told the FBI he saw Mr. Santilli at a December 22nd “Committee Of Safety” meeting in Burns, Oregon where the takeover of the Refuge was allegedly first planned. Pete Santilli was overheard telling the prosecutor, “Good, — maybe we will call him to testify against you then.”
Oral arguments for the second round of motions were set to begin on July 18th, and a tentative time table for the trial itself was also set. Prosecutors are saying the Government will need at least 3-4 weeks to present their case in full, while the defense is estimating roughly 3 -5 days per defendant to get through their portion of the trial.


Nothing was said today about how long jury selection would be expected to take once it begins on September 7th, 2016. Judge Brown has noted they have 1,000 potential jurors from counties surrounding and including Multnomah County, where the trial is set to take place.


The Government also released a list to the defense today which contained the names of 111 people which mostly consisted of with-held names of FBI agents and law enforcement whom they plan to call as witnesses. True to their word kevin Johnson’s name was not on that list.


However, there is one surprise witness on the list that will be testifying for the Government; Found among names like Sheriff David Ward, Steven Grasty and no name FBI agents – was the name Glen Palmer, the Sheriff of Grant County.


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Glen Palmer Sheriff of Grant County Oregon

The state Department of Justice opened an investigation this past March into Palmer, who faces nine complaints, some from government employees, accusing him of promoting a personal agenda “over the welfare and safety of the general public he is sworn to protect. Many are claiming government pressure on Palmer has been oppressive after threatening to end his career in law enforcement. Others have expressed that they cannot imagine him being a cooperative witness for the Government. We reached out to Sheriff Palmer and as of the filing of this report we had received no comment.


Other names included were Chad and Rhonda Kargas – Husband and wife team working for the BLM and Fish and Wildlife respectfully.


Another interesting person testifying for the Prosecution will be Kieran Suckling. Kierán Suckling is a founder and the executive director of the Center for Biological Diversity and known agitator whom Carol Bundy, will quickly tell you is the group that started this fight between them and the BLM in 2014.


Suckling came to the Malheur Refuge to protest the Occupation and almost incited a riot according to some witnesses. Suckling is disliked by many, including some of his peers who say Suckling has done more harm than good in the environmental movement;

**(See note below as to source of funds)
Ted Williams is proud of his credentials as an environmental provocateur and he uses those credentials to defend his criticism of Center for Biological Diversity in an article in High Country News (1). He expresses his opinion that CBD is motivated by money. He points out that CBD has filed hundreds of suits against the federal government, using environmental laws, such as the Endangered Species Act, and that every time it wins it collects attorney fees from the federal government. The cost and number of these suits has become a major obstacle to US Fish & Wildlife and the Environmental Protection Agency in fulfilling their mandate to protect rare species.

has his own ideas about how he and the CBD will rule the world someday according to milliontrees.me – an environmental group dedicated to saving trees in the San Francisco Bay area : If you read the article we have attached here Suckling even goes so far to say that his group hopes to ban all foreign trees from being planted in America and get rid of what is already here by hunting them down and burning them all to the ground.

Mr. Suckling implies that CBD’s control of the environment is only temporary until the new order is established in which plants and animals are in control. This reminds us of a similar fantasy about a new social and economic model which was originally proposed by Karl Marx. In creating the concept of communism, he envisioned a temporary dictatorship of elites which would eventually be ceded to a “dictatorship of the proletariat.” The world has now witnessed many attempts to install communism as the governing economic model, but we have not seen the dictatorship of elites willingly cede their power to the people.


This quote of CBD’s Executive Director from Ted Williams’ article, also helps us to understand why CBD sues the federal government to achieve their goals:


“’They [employees of federal agencies] feel like their careers are being mocked and destroyed—and they are,’ he told the High Country News. ‘So they become much more willing to play by our rules.’” In other words, suing—and the threat of suit—is CBD’s means of controlling the federal agencies that are responsible for protecting the environment, i.e., forcing them to do what CBD wants.

**(NOTE: the woman attorney from Wyoming in the meeting of constitutional sheriffs in Northern California last winter stated that the government funds these bio-diversity groups who the use these funds to sue the government agencies such as the BLM)

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Crystal Epler

July 14 at 9:27pm ·


To all of you who think the Action At Law are a bunch of idiots that are asking for a Grand Jury in OR. to investigate the OSP for violation against the Bundy bunch and murder of La Voy Finicum, because we do not know what we are talking about, I assure you we spent many hrs in research..

WE took the spin and cover up out of the equation and by the States own investigation , we found the cover up, the lies and many questions not asked or looked into.....NOW I have found the missing pieces, thanks to Thom Davis, who is lives in the area, and is a land owner and rancher.....

Does he know what is going on in Harney Co???...you bet he does...I have posted 2 of his you tube videos and to all of you who was caught up in the twist of the media, i dare you to listen to him and the other rancher, that have the guts to stand up and speak out..and understand what really happened at the refuge...and then clear your mind and look at the evidence with out prejudice of the media views. The Bundys did not invade or make threats to any people that work at the refuge.(the workers were given vacation) the place was opened for them and the dispatchers were told of the occupation and told not to call 911 why?????.....and 4 days the police knew that the occupation was going to happen....hows that?????

Ammon was talking to the FBI 1-21 and was to have a meeting 1-22 and it never happen,,Why not????
The police had ample time to arrest all of them. as many moved in and out of the town...Why not then????. the OPS and FBI set up the event for 1-26...to stop them from a meeting,, and knew he was unarmed...
WHY??? 1-27 Finicums side arm,(pistol) the one he always wore was on another Patriot when he was arrested. FBI ,OSP had all the info on all of the group at refuge in there little cards, criminal background, mental history, religious back ground, family history and known habits......the informer reported all of their movements that day, and very well knew that the gun of La Voy Finicum was left behind.....

SO WHY DID NOT THE NEWS REPORT THAT FACT...because they were told to make out the ranchers and supporter as Domestic terrorist .and they did a good job of convincing the vast majority of that description,,,are you one of them????.......look at you tube for the interviews under their name and i hope the fb does not delete them... so much deception WHY??..
and the most damming evidence is in Washington DC and thanks to the very media,that caused the flames....

footage from head cameras worn that day, that you the public were never told of or have looked at and until we get a COURT DATE... YOU WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT IT CONTAINS WHY???? BET YOU DID NOT KNOW THAT FACT,,DID YOU?





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Another Harney County resident, a woman, was curious about the protest and visited the refuge in January. She “found the people gathered at the Refuge” to be “nonthreatening and very friendly.” She said that no one was blocking the entrance or stopping people from coming and going. She also observed that the “place was very clean and well maintained.”

She contrasted that experience with the “danger and intimidation” in Burns due to the “armed FBI agents [who] took over the town and turned it into a militarized zone.” She saw more guns on the FBI agents around town than among the people at the refuge.

Refuge never barricaded; open to all comers

A Harney County rancher swore that the refuge was never barricaded and the public “always had an unfettered right to enter the Refuge at any time and to stay as long as anyone wanted to.” He also pointed out that it was customary to go armed to the refuge and to open carry rifles, which doesn’t alarm the surrounding community."

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Agents “aggressive and threatening” with “fingers on triggers." Protesters "did not stop anyone from coming or going, and anyone was welcome to go there and talk…

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Judge Brown rules against defendants once again.

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Judge Rules Against Political Prisoners AGAIN


Judge Brown is a willing accomplice to the shredding of the Constitution and the Rights of We The People.

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Judge Rules Against Political Prisoners AGAIN

by Shari Dovale

Judge Anna Brown came out with another ruling on Friday, July 15, 2016. This ruling was designed to keep relevant evidence out of the trial against Ammon Bundy and his fellow political prisoners from the Malheur Refuge.


The ruling was specifically concerning the behavior of the FBI officers at the murder of LaVoy Finicum on January 26^th. The proof of their misconduct, their lies, and the manipulation of evidence went to the grand jury last month.


The prosecution has argued the evidence does not need to be turned over to the defense as it does not pertain to the superseding indictment in this case. Defense attorneys argue that, of course, it does need to be turned over as it can be used to impeach the government witnesses. Prosecutors argue that they will not call these particular witnesses, so the defense argument is moot.


Judge Brown has ruled in favor of the prosecution in another blatant attempt to keep the people from exercising their rights.
Yes, this ruling is against the citizens of this country, not just those named in the sham indictment.


First of all, the defense has a right to call their own witnesses. Why is the prosecution controlling whether or not these particular FBI stooges (Yes, manipulate evidence and you rate no higher than stooge, and should stand trial) are called by the defense?


Secondly, the defense has an obligation to show the behavior of the government, and the FBI, which had a direct effect on the behavior of those at the refuge. The murder of LaVoy is part of the proof of the continuing pattern of intimidation the government employed against the protesters and witnesses.
Next, the government contends that the event on the highway that led to the murder of LaVoy was not related to the Refuge. Why then is the government going back in time, prior to January 2^nd, to attempt to prove their case of planning and mindset? If the defense is only allowed to use the events that occurred at the refuge, then the government should be held to the same standard.


The defense has a mountain of evidence showing the intimidation by the government, beginning with 22 affidavits of witnesses that refuted the government narrative. This is only a small portion of witness statements they could have submitted, as I know of many more available to the defense, including my own.
I wrote repeatedly about my experiences in Burns and at the Refuge. I was not afraid to admit that I felt safer at the Refuge than I did in town, as the government intimidation was higher than I could possibly have imagined.


The government has continued to manipulate the people and events that surrounded the protest in Burns, the events that led to LaVoy being murdered, past the final day of February 11^th, and it continues today. Judge Brown is a willing accomplice to the shredding of the Constitution and the Rights of We The People.


We must continue to hold fast and stay strong. We The People will fight Tyranny!


The Americans Are Coming!

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Deb Jordan, co-host of the Pete Santilli show received information 10 days ago a grand jury is investigating the 4 FBI agents who fired on LaVoy Finicum.

I have never understood why they call themselves HOSTAGE RESCUE TEAM--Ruby Ridge, Waco, LaVoy Finicum. Civilian Murder Goons is more appropriate.


Indictments May Be Coming Against -4- FBI HRT Team Members For Coverup In LaVoy Finicum Murder

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IF JUSTICE BE SERVED


Guerilla Media Network received information 10 days ago that a Grand Jury had been called to decide if evidence concerning a coverup by “FBI HRT” Team Members on the ground in Burns Oregon, tried to coverup the fact they had taken shots at LaVoy Finicum, as he exited his vehicle on January 26, 2016.


Legal sources in Portland told GMN that they were aware the Grand Jury had been convened, but did not have information about an actual indictment, at the time the information was passed down to us.


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Today Bob Powell, founder of a trusted Independent News Source called The Truth Is Viral, says he has confirmed through his resource at the Department of Justice, an indictment is soon to be handed down against 4 of the agents involved. Mr. Powell also claims his intel says, “In all there were 4 shots fired at Mr. Finicum by these rouge agents, before and after he exited his truck.”
GMN reached out to Jeanette Finicum on July 10th, as soon as we started receiving information. Mrs. Finicum confirmed she was aware of the Grand Jury being convened, but had not received information of the outcome at that time.


LaVoy Finicum was gunned down during an illegal ambush orchestrated by the Oregon State Police and HRT Division of the FBI on January 26, 2016. Mr. Finicum had been acting as a peaceful media liaison during the Adverse Possession of The Malheur Wildlife Refuge near Burns Oregon when he was executed. Ammon Bundy and codefendants being charged with conspiracy to impede federal workers from doing their jobs are currently being held in various Multnomah County – Oregon jails -without possibility of pretrial release.


GMN OPINION


Should these Militant FBI Agents be indicted in the coming days, it is Guerrilla Media Network’s hope that they be placed in a cell in Multnomah County Detention Center pending trial, and that they be chained to a bench without food or water, not be allowed to speak privately with their attorney, only allowed out 1 hour late at night to make phone calls, and be denied continuously – month after month – a pretrial release. Considering this was an actual a crime ending in violence; it is also our hope that they be labeled as terrorist and scorned and ridiculed in the press. Of course this would be for their own safety and is, after all the policy of the United States Marshall Service.
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Ryan Bundy files common law documents in US District Court. The documents can be read at the link:

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Ryan Bundy wants $1M to be 'defendant' or 'judge'

KOIN 6 News StaffPublished: July 28, 2016, 4:57 pm

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Ryan Bundy in a mug shot from Feb. 19, 2016 (Multnomah County Sheriff's Office)


PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) — In bizarre court documents filed Tuesday, Ryan Bundy declared himself sovereign from state and federal government and wanted to be paid $1 million to accept “the role” of defendant or inmate.


Bundy, the brother of co-defendant Ammon Bundy in the case of the takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, is acting as his own attorney. The federal court filings were submitted by his court-appointed legal assistant.


Ryan Bundy said he does not accept the role as defendant or inmate without fair and just compensation of $1 million. He also said he is willing to play the “role” of “judge” or “bailiff” for $1 million.


https://lintvkoin.files.wordpress.co...2016.jpg?w=650A section of a court filing by Ryan Bundy, July 26, 2016 (KOIN)

He also demanded $100 million if he has to face a judge for the conspiracy matter related to the takeover and occupation of the federal facility.


The Bundy brothers and 6 more people will stand trial in September. Another 8 people will stand trial beginning February 14, 2017.


KOIN 6 News will continue to follow this story.

The 44 pages of documents Ryan filed can be seen at the link:

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Judge Anna Brown does not recognize Ryan Bundy's common law filings,

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Ryan Bundy Declares Himself An 'Idiot' Not Subject To US Courts

by Ryan Haas OPB | July 28, 2016 5:53 p.m. | Updated: July 29, 2016 4:05 p.m.

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In several court filings, Ryan Bundy said he is "incompetent" and not subject to federal law.
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Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupier Ryan Bundy filed a series of court motions late Thursday, declaring himself a sovereign citizen who isn’t subject to federal laws.

Bundy, who is representing himself in the conspiracy case against the refuge occupiers, declares himself an “idiot of the ‘Legal Society’” and not subject to federal law, according to the documents.

“I, ryan c, man, am an idiot of the ‘Legal Society’; and; am an idiot (layman, outsider) of the ‘Bar Association’; and; i am incompetent; and; am not required by any law to be competent,” Bundy wrote in a motion filed to U.S. District Court Judge Anna Brown.

The filings are the latest in increasingly defiant and strange behavior from Bundy, including an alleged escape attempt from the Multnomah County Detention Center.

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As justification for the filings separating himself from U.S. laws, Bundy filed a motion declaring himself a sovereign citizen of the “bundy society.” Within that filing, he declared himself a creation of God rather than a “person” as defined by legal dictionaries, and therefore is not subject to laws.

Bundy also wrote that his wife and children are members of the Bundy society, Brown is guilty of perjury, and that he believes his home state of Nevada and the state of Oregon are not within the United States. Instead, Bundy said both states are “sovereign union states” that are not within the jurisdiction of the U.S., which he said is limited to the District of Columbia.

Bundy’s declaration of sovereign citizenry is signed by his brother and fellow occupier, Ammon Bundy, as a witness. Both Bundys were leaders of the 41-day occupation of the wildlife refuge near Burns, Oregon.

Self-declared “sovereign citizens” have a long, if unsuccessful, history of declaring themselves not subject to federal laws.

Bundy also told the court in the filings that any past signatures by him are now invalid and that U.S. marshals and other law enforcement are illegally holding him in jail. He wrote that he should be paid $1 million to fill the “role” of defendant in the case.

Bundy muses in the filing that he is “willing to consider” playing the role of judge or bailiff in the case if the court pays him a similar sum.

“I, ryan c, man, will charge $100,000,000.00 if any man or woman or PERSON places another order for [me] to come before the court again regarding this matter,” Bundy wrote.

Bundy additionally said the federal government tried to kill him when he was arrested Jan. 26 during a traffic stop, and he should be paid $800 million “to restore i to the wholeness i enjoyed prior to begin taken and carried away.”
Judge Anna Brown quickly rejected the arguments Friday after reviewing the documents. She said that they did not raise “any legally cognizable issue,” and she ordered him not to refile the motions or bring them up to a jury in the Sept. 7 trial.

Brown also reminded Bundy that she had ordered him before not to assert the court had no jurisdiction over the case.

“The Court, therefore, warns Ryan Bundy that any further indication that he will not follow the Court’s Orders will result in Ryan Bundy forfeiting the right to self-representation,” Brown wrote.

Bundy is scheduled to return to court next Wednesday for a status hearing.

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Ryan Bundy is no idiot and the people he faces are a bunch of no good sons of bitches that have sold their souls to Satan.

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100% truth.

Just a few more days:

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Bundy is scheduled to return to court next Wednesday for a status hearing.

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Is this finally coming to a head or are there many more variables that need to come together?

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I believe those status hearings are standard procedure. They have two trials scheduled, the first one is in September.

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For everyone out there who does not understand why I am away from my family or why I stand beside ryan bundy in his time of need...use the next 20 minutes and see for yourself. Anyone surprised by what ryan filed? Do you think this man of COURAGE would do ANYTHING less than that Statement of Verified Declaration? PEOPLE! Get a hold of yourselves. Stop running around beating your chest. You champion STANDS in the middle of the arena. His cowboy hat over his heart. HE NEEDS YOU NOW to propel him. Not tear him down. His hands are clean. Their hands are dirty. You should each and every one of you be stomping in the bleachers and cheering till you have no voice left. Our champion has rode in on his mighty steed. Don't shoot his horse out from under him. I beg you.....much prayer and fasting has been done. No man, NO WOMAN has lead ryan to the well he has come to the well of his own free will to drink of the living water for the whole
world to see. Enjoy.....God save us all and God bless america.

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Ryan Bundy - Four Principles to Save AmericaRyan Bundy is a loving husband, a devoted father, an American patriot and an inspiring example of true courage. In this letter, written from a jail in Oregon...YOUTUBE.COM

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From Brad Steffy Oregon Wide Open . . TWO LAWSUITS AND MORE ON THE WAY AGAINST ROBERT EDWARDS FURTHER LINKING HIM TO THE FINNICUM SHOOTING


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BREAKING

TWO LAWSUITS AND MORE ON THE WAY AGAINST ROBERT EDWARDS FURTHER LINKING HIM TO THE FINNICUM SHOOTING

In March, OwO reported a possible link between OSP Officer # 1 in the Finicum shooting and OSP Captain Robert Edwards. Several statements in the redacted debriefing released by Deschutes County Sheriffs office in March plus FOIA emails released by the State of Oregon tie him to burns.
Additionally, his authority as a Captain, the behavior and statements of Officer #1 being in an authoritative role, and the SWAT reference in the statements of which he was not a member all narrow it down to only one person which fits all categories.

Captain Robert Edwards.
The same who was Lieutenant Edwards in the Motorcycle incident.
The same Officer Edwards who was the plaintiff in a suit filed by a fellow OSP officer who as a whistle blower was victimized by OSP officer Edwards for telling the truth.

A look on the OSP facebook revealed several other complaints about him during his ascent in ranks to the lead role of Captain.

It seems unusual to say the least that an Officer with as many complaints and court losses would be promoted at all let alone to Captain.

Is this what we want for our Management of the Oregon State Police?

In the likely civil trial which will be forthcoming against OSP for the killing of Mr Finicum, and for shooting Ryan Bundy it may be noteworthy that the likely identity of Officer #1 is one of a tainted and controversial career from an officer who clearly has an anger problem at least, if not more severe deficiencies.

To be fair, all we have to go on is his history of performance as an OSP Officer. There is no information to access regarding his personal character. There is also no undeniable evidence that Officer #1 is Robert Edwards.

Hours of investigative research originally lead us to the deductive reasoning of a link between the two.

Now that the appeal he filed to get off the hook for the assault on the motorcyclist has been dropped by OSP and himself, it further leads us to believe it is him. Why? Because Government almost NEVER loses in the 9th circuit. It's heavily stacked against the civilian quadrant and they had a $517,000 award given to the Motorcyclist that they stood to evade if they won their appeal. Some of that is the responsibility of Officer Edwards himself.

So why did they just drop it last month?

This never happens either. Suddenly, without explanation they just dropped it and accepted the penalty. I believe that the case was bringing too much light to officer Edwards. They're trying to keep the identity of the OSP officers private and all this business and problems with the lawsuit are drawing far too much attention to him.

They need to minimize attention to him as a now Captain of the Bend OSP Division and in particular if he is indeed Officer #1. The Grand Jury has been assigned in the FBI HRT investigation, A complaint and affidavit has also been filed by a Citizen requesting a grand Jury in Portland and another possible Grand Jury request is soon coming for the State of Oregon.
It's unprecedented that the OSP have blatantly defied requests for the names of the OSP Officers involved in the shooting even though we shot down an emergency House bill which they tried to disguise as a school bill, that would have granted them legal premise for concealing the identity of the officers.

Many are very upset and very frustrated with our beloved State Police once revered as the pinnacle of our law enforcement. Now, many are fearful, suspect and outright angry that they so quickly "justified" this heinous shooting and topped it off with a blatant disregard of our right to know who was involved.

Tim will crack this open. They are probably trying to get past the elections in November to avoid any more controversy for substitute Governor Kate Brown who was the driving force behind this atrocity.

If they can stall it for another 3 1/2 months she can possibly win the Governors seat. My guess is that then they will come forth with "the rest of the story" and reveal the officers involved.
It's important that we keep the pressure on them to reveal the identity of the shooters so we can conclude the peoples investigation of events which, by the way, is quite drastically different than the DCSO report released in March.

Below are links to all the aforementioned issues including a long and telling stream of facebook comments from the general public about Robert Edwards and the OSP.

In a closing note, I/We have respect for the institution of law enforcement. The respect comes or goes based on their performance of the LAW. Their history has nothing to do with their performance of today and if they continue to reward behavior like that of Robert Edwards, they endanger every officer in a uniform. They need the support of the public whether they realize this or not.

We're seeing an escalation of violence and lack of respect for officers which is horribly unfair to those doing the job properly. Those in lead roles of law enforcement need to heed the warnings of an unhappy public and return to proper policing under constitutional law.

~ ROBERT EDWARDS LINKED TO OSP OFFICER #1 IN FINICUM SHOOTING https://www.facebook.com/oregonwideo...54108931449107

~ EDWARDS SUED BY FELLOW OFFICER http://www.leagle.com/…/In%20FDCO%20201…/BOYD%20v.%20EDWARDS
~ EDWARDS DROPS APPEAL IN MOTOCYCLIST ASSAULT

http://registerguard.com/…/state-drops-appeals-agrees-to-pa…

~ OSP FACEBOOK COMMENTS
Andrea Wilson — 3 starCaptain Rob Edwards is a fat, lazy cop who prefers violence instead of doing
Dani El — 1 starI think the almost of u guys have a big Problem in ur head look better for a psycho doc!I See that Video with the police car Who Crash the motocycle!and i dont now what u guys think what u are ?gods hahahahaha no for shure not u are working for a privat security not more ........Karma is a bitch mf!!!All Colors Are Beautyful; ) no greeting from germany
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BOYD v. EDWARDS by MICHAEL McSHANE, District Judge | Leagle.com
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I followed a couple of the links in the post above and it's pretty interesting to read and see what the OSP, peace of shit, possible shooter of Lavoy Finicum has been up to in the past.


https://www.facebook.com/oregonwideo...54108931449107

OSP OFFICER LINKED TO FINICUM SHOOTING.


Officer Robert W. Edwards,
Remember that name. Something tells me you may be hearing more about him in the future as potentially one of the OSP Officers on scene on hwy 395 January 26th when LaVoy Finicum was killed and possibly one of the shooters who killed him.


Recent emails received demonstrate that Capt. Robert W. Edwards was involved in the Malhuer issue as far back as December. In the email he said they "Really needed Sheriff Ward to appear Natural" Clearly discussing the situation in Burns before the Refuge was occupied.


When I saw the email, the Name sounded familiar to me. It turns out a year ago I reported on this incident where an OSP offcer in an unmarked car chased down a speeding Motrcyclist who initially didn't stop because he didn't know he was being pursued. He had actually passed the unmarked car, admittedly recklessly not realizing it was a police cruiser. It was a silver colored Camaro, one they use to conceal their identity.


Just another reason why this should not be legal. It's also against the law to pursue a suspect in an unmarked car such as this for obvious reasons. The Cruiser also did not have an audible siren.


But when the motorcyclist finally realized he was being pursued he immediately pulled over and stopped. This is clear in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZYsdSUUSI


What happens next is unconscionable and in so many ways illegal. The officer, Rob W. Edwards, instead of writing him a speeding and/or reckless citation decides to run him down and knock him over with his police cruiser, breaking his ribs. This is insane!! And if that isn't enough he then pulls a gun on him all Gangster style sideways, orders him to the ground and when he starts to comply then kicks him for no reason! The rider was clearly confused and asked him what he did. Officer Edwards later says he tried to stop the kick but his" muscles had already fired"


After kicking him and breaking his clavicle so badly that he needed plates and screws surgically installed he forces him to the ground and places his knee in his back causing him excruciating pain and held him that way while he pulled the riders helmet off which is another DON'T DO! You should NEVER remove a motorcyclists helmet when he's been down. It's very risky to his cervical spine and this is standard to all safety training.


Clearly this Officer was entirely out of line and abusive to the rider. He obliviously demonstrated anger issues, and very poor judgement and he failed to report ANY of the use of force until they told him about the dash cam. He was "disciplined" for not reporting the use of force.


And what became of the whole situation? The Officer was found guilty of excessive force and negligence. The rider was awarded $180,000 in damages which is a ridiculously low figure for what occurred but at least the Officer was punished, right?


Wrong! The Officer now bears the title of CAPTAIN! Yep, he was promoted for his behavior. Apparently, that's what the office of the Oregon State Police wants in their officers, aggression, abuse, violence and assault.


This officer should have been charged criminally for ramming the kid with his car. He didn't realize his car had a newly equipped dash cam which caught his ridiculous behavior much to his surprise. He actually DID NOT report the use of force which is in violation of policy and only admitted to it after they advised him of the dash cam and footage.
Imagine what they get away with without these dash cams or had this cam not been on the cruiser. The rider would have been criminally charged with resisting arrest as well as a host of other charges.


"Edwards also said he accidentally “bumped” the back end of Wilkens’ motorcycle as a result of possible “brake fade” — a term used to describe the loss of braking power because of overheating. But Regan reminded jurors in a closing argument that a brake expert testified at trial that brake fade rarely occurs in modern brake systems."
C'mon! Brake fade at 5 mph? Yea, right!


The overly aggressive behavior of the officer, the email linking him to the Burns issue and his relation to Springfield Station all tie him to the team of OSP officers on scene that day. His ranking position lends to the notion that he may have also been Officer #1 who was a seasoned officer and in a command position and the shooter that shot at Finicums truck three times as it approached the roadblock and then shot Finicum twice in the back.
If so, I wonder what kind of promotion they'll give him for this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZYsdSUUSI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZYsdSUUSI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZYsdSUUSI

Wow what a piece of trash!

United States says Bill of Rights doesn't apply to Malheur Reserve. In the event they can prove the Oregon Legislature ceded jurisdiction to the United States then it is true because the reserve would come under the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States. But I do not believe the feds had the consent of the Oregon Legislature. In that case the US is treated as another property owner. They have stepped down from their sovereign position and entered into a business contract same as any other corporation.


Local | News | An Occupation In Eastern Oregon

Prosecutors: Bill Of Rights Shouldn't Cover Malheur Occupiers' Actions

by Conrad Wilson Follow and Ryan Haas OPB | July 29, 2016 9:15 p.m. | Updated: July 30, 2016 9:21 a.m.

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http://www.opb.org/images/upload/c_l...921_ygv0qe.jpgThose who want the armed militants to leave Eastern Oregon's Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Oregon, keep ripping down a sign the occupiers keeps putting back up.
Kris Millgate/Tight Line Media

Federal prosecutors in Oregon filed a trial brief Friday outlining their case against the occupiers of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

The story prosecutors tell is one that shows a premeditated takeover of the refuge that had all the ingredients to escalate into a violent firefight.

Prosecutors write that evidence teams recovered more than 20,000 rounds of ammunition, more than 1,000 spent shell casings and dozens of firearms. They note the total cost of the occupation was more than $6 million.
“There was also a massive amount of trash and personal property scattered throughout the Refuge,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Ethan Knight wrote.

While 26 defendants were originally charged with conspiracy to impede federal workers after the 41-day occupation ended, several people have taken plea deals or asked for a later trial date in the case.
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Trial For 8 Malheur Occupation Defendants To Begin On Valentine's Day


Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy, Shawna Cox, Pete Santilli, David Fry, Jeff Banta, Kenneth Medenbach and Neil Wampler are scheduled to begin their trial Sept. 7.

Knight stated that those Malheur defendants were “inspired” by the 2014 armed standoff in Bunkerville, Nevada, between the Bureau of Land Management and ranchers led by Cliven Bundy, the father of Ammon and Ryan Bundy.

“Defendants described the occupied Refuge as the ‘second freest place on earth,’ after the Bundy Ranch,” Knight wrote.

In the filings, Knight also wrote why various possible defenses should be outright rejected by the Court. He argued the occupiers cannot justify their actions by citing First and Second Amendment rights.
“To the extent defendants claim that they were exercising their First Amendment right to free expression by — and while — carrying guns, this Court should reject that claim outright,” Knight wrote in the brief. “Taking a gun into a government office is not First Amendment protected activity.”

FULL COVERAGE

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An Occupation In Eastern Oregon

Ongoing coverage of the federal case against the people involved in the 41-day armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and how life has changed in Harney County, Oregon.

Knight stated that Ammon Bundy, the occupation’s “primary” leader, and Payne traveled to Burns two months before the occupation began and threatened Harney County Sheriff David Ward with “‘extreme civil unrest in the community.’”

Knight wrote that on Jan. 2, Ammon Bundy led a convoy from Burns to the Refuge to “‘make a hard stand.’”
Bundy stated that he and fellow occupiers initially took over the refuge to protest the imprisonment of Harney County ranchers Dwight and Steven Hammond. The Hammonds were convicted of arson on federal lands.
Government attorneys said the protest quickly escalated into an armed occupation.

“In an effort to fortify their hold on the Refuge, defendants also set up military style teams to enforce security,” Knight wrote. “They placed armed guards in a tower on the property, armed guards at the front and rear gates, and armed teams patrolling different parts of the Refuge.”

Prosecutors allege the defendants planed to stay for years after digging in at the refuge. Defendants took over the kitchen, got personal mail delivered, broke into safes, attempted to access employee computers, slept in the bunkhouse and stole gas stored in a tank at the refuge, according to Knight.

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PHOTOS: The Mess Occupiers Left At Malheur National Wildlife Refuge


After defendant Cox was arrested, Knight said she told investigators “the weapons would have been used to stop the federal government from entering the property.”

Knight wrote that First Amendment rights do not cover the occupation because “their speech incited illegal activity.”

“The First Amendment affords no defense to words or actions that incite imminent criminal activity and it cannot shield a defendant from criminal liability when the words or actions are themselves integral to the crime,” Knight stated in the brief.

He also argued that defendants in the case can’t argue their possession of firearms at the refuge is protected free speech because the occupation was not about gun rights.

In a similar argument, Knight stated that Second Amendment rights don’t protect the defendants who took weapons to the refuge.

“The Second Amendment secures lawful use or possession of a firearm but the Amendment does not protect use or possession connected with criminal activity,” he wrote.

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Knight said that self-defense arguments for firearm possession also shouldn’t be allowed in the trial because the defendants took weapons to the refuge before law enforcement was on scene.

“There is no evidence in this case that defendants needed to arm themselves for self-defense or that they even knew the scope of the law enforcement presence,” Knight wrote. “The Court should reject any defense effort to insert this ill-founded theory into the trial.”

When the trial begins, Knight said he and his colleagues plan to prove that

• two or more people agreed to prevent federal employees from doing their jobs by using “force, intimidation or threat”;
• some defendants knowingly took firearms into a federal facility with the intent to use those weapons in commission of a crime;
• Kenneth Medenbach illegally took a Ford F350 truck from the refuge for his own use; and
• Ryan Bundy knowingly stole more than $1,000 worth of government property from the refuge for his own use.

As a basis for those arguments, Knight asked the court to accept as indisputable fact that the refuge is federal property, that the Hammonds were sentenced for arson and that U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service employees are federal officers.

In a separate court filing Friday, the government filed its exhibit list for the trial. The list includes photos of the occupiers, audio recordings, video and surveillance footage, thousands of rounds of ammunition and dozens of firearms.


http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns...egon-evidence/

Is Malheur Reserve Article I Section 8 Clause 17 property????? Highly unlikely!!!


The Cowboy and the Lady


HAVE THE FEDS BEEN LYING ABOUT OWNING THE LAND AT THE MALHEUR REFUGE? THE PEOPLE “OTLEY TO KNOW”

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HAVE THE FEDS BEEN LYING ABOUT OWNING THE LAND AT THE MALHEUR REFUGE?????

We have created this article in order to share the information given to us by those who have done some research into the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA vs. OTLEY case from the early 1940’s. The Malheur land has been in the crosshairs of controversy in so many stories and cases that one may want to do some research and thinking about any and all “stories” spewed from the mouths of ABC agencies/agents. It is seeming to us that the majority of words in declarations of land ownership are anything but the truth fed to the Americans today. Read this and think, read the links and uncover what stinks!

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"Oh, did we say WE owned the land? Sorry about that, we meant, "WE ARE STEALING YOUR LAND" says the BLM to the ranchers.

This is information from Dr Angus McIntosh. Thank you to a follower, Charmaign Edwards, for sharing this with us. DID THIS CASE SET TRUTH IN STONE THAT THE LAND WAS THE RANCHERS AND NOT FEDERAL?

An example of prior existing rights is the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. In 1908 President Roosevelt, established by presidential proclamation a Bird Reserve (subject to prior existing rights). Thirty four years later the Ninth Circuit Court ruled in United States v. Otley, 127 F2d 988 (1942), that not only did the prior existing ranchers living adjacent to Malheur Lake have the absolute right to graze and cut hay within the reserve, but actually owned half of Malheur Lake itself. In 1942 the government paid for the right to construct roads, phone lines, plant trees, build fire towers, and build water control dams and structures. For the next thirty years these ranchers continued to graze cattle and cut hay. This all changed with a change in management at the Reserve/Refuge in the 1970's. I'm curious as to exactly what was in the original 1942 purchase agreements. What rights were reserved in those agreements? Why is this new generation of Feds trying to force out the Hammonds by ignoring 18 USC 1857 that exempts “allotment owners” from the criminal arson provisions? The biggest question I Have is why do the people of Harney County believe anything the Federal employees tell them when there is a proven history of them lying to ranchers about prior existing rights (U.S.v Otley, 1942)?

"Did I mention to you folks interested in the Malheur Refuge Protest and subsequent Government assault, that in 1942 the Ninth Circuit ruled that most of the land withdrawn by President Teddy in 1908 and at least half of Malheur Lake did not belong to the US in the first place? The Court said it belonged to the prior established ranchers. The government had to condemn and buy the rancher's out under a 1933 conservation law, that only allowed for the construction of "projects". In that case it was 95 miles of roads, the construction of fire-lookouts, the planting of trees, and the building of certain water control structures. Under that act the ranchers still owned the improvements, grazing and hay/forage rights. There is a genuine question of fact as to whether or not the land upon which the so-called "occupied federal buildings" stand actually belongs to the government. Its my understanding the so-called "occupied buildings" were actually one of the old ranch headquarters. If that is the case the property still belongs to the original ranchers heirs (since the US cannot acquire property by adverse possession). The 1942 case is United States v Otley. Very interesting reading and available on the Justia website.

HE FURTHER COMMENTS: Here are further comments offered by Dr. Angus McIntosh.
"Actually they kept on ranching and grazing for over 30 years after that 1942 decision. It wasn't until about the time that Congress passed FLPMA that the Refuge managers started flooding out the ranchers. The original ranchers were all gone by then and the new ones simply assumed the Feds were acting lawfully."

Much more at the link:


https://m.facebook.com/notes/the-cow...8146468588405/

Give an inch, they will take all the marbles in time, mostly because "they" write the dam rules !

Try and fight, then you are just a pissant giving the middle finger of hope, defiance and personal blessings while standing up to a flamethrower!

As Waco, and ruby ridge plus other examples have taught and proven.

Just saying being pragmatic!

Sadly "they" will take out of your dead hands if needed!

They still win!

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Give an inch, they will take all the marbles in time, mostly because "they" write the dam rules !

Try and fight, then you are just a pissant giving the middle finger of hope, defiance and personal blessings while standing up to a flamethrower!

As Waco, and ruby ridge plus other examples have taught and proven.

Just saying being pragmatic!

Sadly "they" will take out of your dead hands if needed!

They still win!

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You do a poor job of concealing your status as a corporate state apologist.

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Give an inch, they will take all the marbles in time, mostly because "they" write the dam rules !

Try and fight, then you are just a pissant giving the middle finger of hope, defiance and personal blessings while standing up to a flamethrower!

As Waco, and ruby ridge plus other examples have taught and proven.

Just saying being pragmatic!

Sadly "they" will take out of your dead hands if needed!

They still win!

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Forum runner

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Ruby Ridge 20 years ago this month.

Even if the government is wrong which is 99% of their cases they keep the ranchers tied up in court until they are bankrupt. Look at the my brothers inlaws, the Hage family, almost 40 years of fightin the USFS and BLM.

My friend Joe Fallini has had his share of legal troubles with them too.

Years ago I was working the evening shift in the Kenworth shop in Reno. A cattle hauler came in for some minor repair. I could tell the driver was a rancher the minute he climbed down from the cab. I told him he didn't look like a truck driver, he looked like a rancher. He told me his family had been ranchers in Montana and after many years of litigation with the feds they had to sell to pay the legal bills. He told me they had never lost a case, but were driven into poverty.

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You do a poor job of concealing your status as a corporate state apologist.

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Kormrad when it comes to you I really do not give a flying hoo hoo what you think.

Enjoy your day !

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Ruby Ridge 20 years ago this month.

Even if the government is wrong which is 99% of their cases they keep the ranchers tied up in court until they are bankrupt. Look at the my brothers inlaws, the Hage family, almost 40 years of fightin the USFS and BLM.

My friend Joe Fallini has had his share of legal troubles with them too.

Years ago I was working the evening shift in the Kenworth shop in Reno. A cattle hauler came in for some minor repair. I could tell the driver was a rancher the minute he climbed down from the cab. I told him he didn't look like a truck driver, he looked like a rancher. He told me his family had been ranchers in Montana and after many years of litigation with the feds they had to sell to pay the legal bills. He told me they had never lost a case, but were driven into poverty.

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Yep !

Monty totally understand and agree, even if you are right they will bankrupt you and you will still lose.

Revolution ?

One needs a majority to hold what is won, and if not , major shake and bake and mostly then return to the same..

Tho I would not complain if the gov rewinds , with a few tweeks back to the 1960's or so..

Minus the dam cold war as one of those tweeks..

It is part and parcel of the communist manifesto

Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)

Communism , ?


Total has been tried, didn't work history wise!

I suggest more of a socialist trend, (my life observation but not necessarily my feelings)

seen that a pure capitalist system as lived in the past also failed!

Best guess is somewhere in the middle?

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Wonder if rambutan has made it your way ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambutan

The climit you are living in is right for them, but bet the area has something close to it..





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It is part and parcel of the communist manifesto

Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)

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Communism

TEN PLANKS OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO Could this be happening in America? If so, how? Our "elected representatives" have passed laws implementing these anti-freedom concepts. The communists have achieved a de facto FEDERAL SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT in America. In 1848 Karl Marx and Frederick Engels wrote a book outlining a political ideology, titled "The Communist Manifesto". Marxism's basic theme is that the proletariat (the "exploited" working class of a capitalistic society) will suffer from alienation and will rise up against the "bourgeoisie" (the middle class) and overthrow the system of "capitalism." After a brief period of rule by "the dictatorship of the proletariat" the classless society of communism would emerge. In his Manifesto Marx described the following ten steps as necessary steps to be taken to destroy a free enterprise society!! Notice how many of these conditions, foreign to the principles that America was founded upon, have now, in 1997, been realized by the concerted efforts of socialist activists? Remember, government interference in your daily life and business is intrusion and deprivation of our liberties! First Plank: Abolition of property in land and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.(Zoning - Model ordinances proposed by Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover widely adopted. Supreme Court ruled "zoning" to be "constitutional" in 1921. Private owners of property required to get permission from government relative to the use of their property. Federally owned lands are leased for grazing, mining, timber usages, the fees being paid into the U.S. Treasury.) Second Plank: A heavy progressive or graduated incometax. (Corporate Tax Act of 1909. The 16th Amendment, allegedly ratified in 1913. The Revenue Act of 1913, section 2, Income Tax. These laws have been purposely misapplied against American citizens to this day.) Third Plank: Abolition of all rights of inheritance. (Partially accomplished by enactment of various state and federal "estate tax" laws taxing the "privilege" of transfering property after death and gift before death.) Fourth Plank: CONFISCATION OF THE PROPERTY OF ALL EMIGRANTS AND REBELS.(The confiscation of property and persecution of those critical - "rebels" - of government policies and actions, frequently accomplished by prosecuting them in a courtroom drama on charges of violations of non-existing administrative or regulatory laws.) Fifth Plank: Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. (The Federal Reserve Bank, 1913- -the system of privately-owned Federal Reserve banks which maintain a monopoly on the valueless debt "money" in circulation.) Sixth Plank: Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.(Federal Radio Commission, 1927; Federal Communications Commission, 1934; Air Commerce Act of 1926; Civil Aeronautics Act of 1938; Federal Aviation Agency, 1958; becoming part of the Department of Transportation in 1966; Federal Highway Act of 1916 (federal funds made available to States for highway construction); Interstate Highway System, 1944 (funding began 1956); Interstate Commerce Commission given authority by Congress to regulate trucking and carriers on inland waterways, 1935-40; Department of Transportation, 1966.) Seventh Plank: Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. (Depart-ment of Agriculture, 1862; Agriculture Adjustment Act of 1933 -- farmers will receive government aid if and only if they relinquish control of farming activities; Tennessee Valley Authority, 1933 with the Hoover Dam completed in 1936.) Eighth Plank: Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies especially for agriculture.(First labor unions, known as federations, appeared in 1820. National Labor Union established 1866. American Federation of Labor established 1886. Interstate Commerce Act of 1887 placed railways under federal regulation. Department of Labor, 1913. Labor-management negotiations sanctioned under Railway Labor Act of 1926. Civil Works Administration, 1933. National Labor Relations Act of 1935, stated purpose to free inter-state commerce from disruptive strikes by eliminating the cause of the strike. Works Progress Administration 1935. Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, mandated 40-hour work week and time-and-a-half for overtime, set "minimum wage" scale. Civil Rights Act of 1964, effectively the equal liability of all to labor.) Ninth Plank: Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.(Food processing companies, with the co-operation of the Farmers Home Administration foreclosures, are buying up farms and creating "conglomerates.") Tenth Plank: Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production. (Gradual shift from private education to publicly funded began in the Northern States, early 1800's. 1887: federal money (unconstitutionally) began funding specialized education. Smith-Lever Act of 1914, vocational education; Smith-Hughes Act of 1917 and other relief acts of the 1930's. Federal school lunch program of 1935; National School Lunch Act of 1946. National Defense Education Act of 1958, a reaction to Russia's Sputnik satellite demonstration, provided grants to education's specialties. Federal school aid law passed, 1965, greatly enlarged federal role in education, "head-start" programs, textbooks, library books. (Research source: Encyclopedia Britannica.)

http://www.criminalgovernment.com/docs/planks.html

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Ryan Bundy is no idiot and the people he faces are a bunch of no good sons of bitches that have sold their souls to Satan.

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Here are a couple of court cases to back up Ryan Bundy's position. Ryan needs access to the law libraryand other resources to prepare his papers

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A short facebook video of Lavoy's widow Jeanette Finicum feeding cattle with a skidsteer loader

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Ryan Bundy's counter offer to Lorreta Lynch

The Oath

2 hrs ·

August 7, 2016

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE (THE DOJ)
For Profit Corporation
DUN and BRADSTREET # 011669674
# 071813046

LORETTA E. LYNCH

U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001

PROPOSED TERMS AND CONDITIONS

Greetings Loretta

i am in receipt of your offer to cut into my flesh and take/carry away an item in [my] possession. For the suggested transaction to take place without conditions would require a great amount of trust on [my] behalf but no trust on behalf of THE DOJ.

It has been implied that you represent a different branch of THE DOJ that unjustly ended the life of [my] dear friend [cf lavoy finnicum], unjustly attempted to prematurely end the live(s) of [myself, cf ryan bundy], [cf shawna cox], [cf ryan payne], [cf victoria sharp]. I do not have full faith that you have clean hands in these matters, as you are part of the body that committed these crimes against your fellow mankind.

It has come to [my] attention recently that three (3) of the nurses, that were employed, and possibly on shift, at the Harney County Hospital at the time [cf lavoy finnicum] was brought in to the hospital, are now “suspiciously” deceased. This causes [myself] and all mankind deep grief and grave concerns regarding your trustworthiness. One must not think hard to conclude that any man or woman, involved in your proposed “removal” of evidence from [my] custody, may find themselves to be in grave danger shortly after their participation in this proposed “removal”.

With this in mind i require you to act in good faith and fulfill the following conditions prior to [me] consenting to the proposed “removal”:

1. THE DOJ agrees to propose a chain of custody, with regards to item [my property] to be removed, from the physician to the final destination, the forensic scientist of [my] choosing. The proposed list must be approved by [me, cf ryan bundy].

2. THE DOJ agrees to a thorough background-check, conducted and produced by an independent criminal investigator, of [my] choosing, on each man or woman on the proposed chain of custody.

3. THE DOJ must provide a $90,000,000.00 policy/account/bond on the life and liberty of each, any and all man or woman on the proposed chain of custody of the item [my property] proposed to be removed.

4. THE DOJ agrees that i [cf ryan bundy] am the trustee of these policy(s)/account(s)/bond(s), with the authority to release, at [my] discretion, at any time to the immediate “family” members, the beneficiaries, if the life or liberty of the principal is impaired in any form or fashion.

5. THE DOJ agrees to bear full liability for the continued life and liberty of each man or woman on the proposed chain of custody of the item [my property] removed, for a period of time no less than ten (10) years.

6. THE DOJ agrees to release 100% of the $90,000,000.00 policy/account/bond if for any reason the life or liberty, of each man or woman on the proposed chain of custody of the item [my property] removed, ceases to continue or is altered in any way shape or form for a period of time no less than ten (10) years.

7. THE DOJ agrees, as an act of good faith, to release, without condition, from capture a/k/a jail, the mind, [body] and spirit of the man, the creation(s) of God:
(a) [cf ryan bundy] to prepare for September 7, 2016
(b) [cf ammon bundy] to prepare for September 7, 2016
(c) [cf david fry] to prepare for September 7, 2016
(d) [cf melvin bundy] to prepare for September 7, 2016
(e) [cf dave bundy] to prepare for September 7, 2016
(f) [cf travis cox] to prepare for September 7, 2016
(g) [cf peter santilli] to prepare for September 7, 2016

8. THE DOJ agrees to the following being present, as [my] witness, from start to finish of removal:
(a) [cf angela bundy]
(b) LISA LUDWIG
(c) Videographer of [my] choosing
(d) Any and all [my] advisors
(e) A criminal investigator of [my] choosing

9. THE DOJ agrees to pay all medical cost of the removal procedure in addition to any and all travel expenses of [my] witnesses.

10. THE DOJ agrees the item to be removed is [my] property

11. THE DOJ agrees to pay [cf angela bundy] $1,000,000.00 fair and just compensation for the damage to [her] private trust property [cf ryan bundy], and is to be paid to [cf angela bundy] prior to scheduling procedure.

12. THE DOJ agrees that [my] property, the item to be removed, is [my] property and will merely be on loan to THE DOJ for the limited and sole purpose of transportation to [my] chosen forensic scientist.

13. THE DOJ agrees that [my] property, the item proposed to be removed, is to be returned to [my] possession within fourteen (14) days.

14. THE DOJ agrees that the procedure is valued at $6,300,000.00 and is to be paid to I, as equal substance, prior to the scheduling of the procedure.

15. THE DOJ agrees that the payment of $6,300,000.00 is for the proposed procedure only and does not in any way relieve THE DOJ, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, (any) SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT, FEDERAL MARSHALLS SERVICE, (any) STATE PATROL, or any man or woman in their private capacity, who participated in the wrongdoing which lead to this item being forced into [my] flesh, of liability arising from civil or criminal charges being brought against them; nor does it relieve any of the mentioned from future liability as can be expected (long term damage).

16. THE DOJ agrees the burden of liability must not come from the fruits of the labor of we the people, but rather from the fruit of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA’s own labors and profits, as it is a for profit corporation.

17. THE DOJ agrees that only i, and without question or argument, will determine in the future what symptoms are related back to this procedure.

18. THE DOJ agrees that the attending physician is to confer solely with [cf angela bundy] regarding any matters medical (ie medications during and after procedure) and THE DOJ agrees to abide with all privacy regulations and at no time is THE DOJ to give medical advice.

19. THE DOJ agrees that the procedure will not include any sedation of the mind, nor mind altering drugs or sleep inducing medications; I am to stay alert, aware, awake, conscious and uncompromised throughout procedure.

Let [me] be clear:
Terms and conditions numbers 1-6 are NOT NEGOTIABLE as there is no reasonable expectancy that your agency, who has dirty hands, can assure the safety of innocent lives without being held liable prior to their participation in this event.

Term and condition number 7 is NOT NEGOTIABLE as you currently act in bad faith by unlawfully caging your fellowman without recourse. You are doing so to ensure that each man listed is handicapped in such a way that you stand a chance of winning a matter you otherwise could not win without your cheating ways. You have no desire for a fair trial on September 7, 2016.

Term and condition number 8 is NOT NEGOTIABLE as you have attempted and achieved murder, and i do not trust you.

Terms and conditions 9-19 are NOT NEGOTIABLE as you are dishonorable, and I do not trust your right hand to investigate your left hand.
NOTICE: These terms and conditions are not meant to be misconstrued as anything other than a message to YOU that YOU have taken enough without bringing equal substance. I will thank you and your agency for acting honorably toward [me] during this procedure, as I am an honorable man. Your silence is acceptance to [my] terms and conditions.

NOTICE TO THE PRINCIPLE IS NOTICE TO THE AGENT; NOTICE TO THE AGENT IS NOTICE TO THE PRINCIPLE
ryan c bundy;
man; all right reserve;
exempt from levy

jke

For every one that is concerned about Ryan Bundy, I ask that instead of calling the jail, please call his standby attorney and request an immediate junction for a welfare check.
By calling the jail you will only make them angry which in turn the inmates will suffer and calling the hospitals will get you nowhere because there are laws that have to be followed with those laws include HIPPA.

Please call Ryan Bundys standby
legal counsel Lisa Ludwig to file a motion for an emergency welfare check (503) 223-5570

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What's up with the bullet they're wanting to remove?

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this doesn't sound good . . . . .

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Ryan Bundy being forcefully removed from his cell to remove the bullet in his shoulder.
He fears loss of evidence against those who shot him.
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URGENT!!! Ryan Bundy BEATEN this morning.

Updates from Gavin, Assemblywoman Michele Fiore and Bundy Ranch.
CALL and DEMAND Ryan be allowed to phone home!!! JAIL: 503-988-5060. County Sheriff: (503) 255-3600. Oregon Attorney General: 503-378-4400. Judge Anna Brown: 503-326-8350
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UPDATE2: From Lisa:
"I received an anonymous phone call from the jail. This person asked me if, "this was Lisa Bundy?" I replied "yes" . He said..."yeah, they removed the bullet from Ryan's shoulder. You need to know this". I asked him over and over again who this was and he didn't respond and then hung up."
UPDATE1: It appears Ryan he has now been locked in solitary

More information on Ryan Bundy's confontation . . . . force used

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UPDATE on Ryan Bundy, and the beating he took from 5 US Marshals. There are also UNCONFIRMED reports that they have forceably removed the bullet from Ryan's
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UPDATE 5pm Kelli Stewart live with channel 6 news on periscope

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UPDATE 4:50 Oregon time. Nobody has heard or seen Ryan yet. I want to make this very clear with this Oregonian article that came out about today's incident. The article confirms what we have been saying there was no hearing scheduled for Ryan today. Nobody knows where he was being taken. What we do know is that prosecution has been trying to get their hands on that bullet in Ryan's shoulder for some time now SECRETLY. That bullet is important for many reasons. It is very important evidence. They are saying its shrapnel, Ryan is saying he saw the X-rays and that it is definitely a bullet. Which kind of bullet will tell us if it came from the FBI or the Oregon State Police. FBI is already being investigated for lying about shooting when LaVoy was killed.

When 5 guards awoke Ryan out of his sleep I'm sure he refused to go with them not knowing where they would take him and knowing full well what the prosecution wants. That is when they attacked him. Ammon and 2 others witnessed exactly what happened. Everybody so far that has told us Ryan is ok has not personally seen him.

UPDATE AT 4:18 Oregon time
We are being told that Ryan will call Angie here shortly. She will update her Facebook when he calls. Facebook wasn't liking Kelli Stewart's live feed so she switched to periscope. Still Live at the jail. Under Kel Stew @bundystrong. PLEASE EVERYONE stop what you are doing and PLEASE say a prayer for Angie and her kids, Lisa Bundy, Ammon (he has been in a panic all day in distress with what he witnessed this morning), Carol Bundy, the Bundy family. Today has been a day of ALOT of emotion. PLEASE stop what you are doing and pray for comfort for all of them and PLEASE GOD PLEASE TAKE OVER PLEASE TAKE THIS HELL AWAY!!

UPDATE AT 3:42 Oregon time.
Call 503-988-2400.
1.We want the video from 6am inside the jail so we can see what really happened. Eyewitness accounts are completely different than that of the officer

2.If this was for a hearing that had been scheduled why didn't Ryan know about it?

3 They have been trying to bribe Ryan into allowing them to remove the bullet from his shoulder. He has said no several times. They keep doing these surprise hearings aka visits on him why when he refuses to go with the marshals for fear of his life is he beaten and placed in solitary?

4. There are several of us on our way to Oregon if he is not allowed a simple phone call or visit to show us he is ok TODAY.
UPDATE: Kelli Stewart is live right now on her Facebook at the jail trying to get some answers and on behalf of Angie trying to physically see him to see the damage done this morning. Angie has the flu and has been sick all morning. Goal is to possibly get her out there tonight...if not Angie, possibly Carol or Lisa even.

UPDATE: I just left Lisa and Ammon's house after being there all morning with Lisa and Cliven's sisters. Ammon was on the phone as I left. He said the person who called from jail and said the bullet was taken out was someone who was suppose to call earlier this morning, so it is possible that because Ryan refused to go to surgery this morning they beat him up and is now in solitary with the bullet still in his shoulder. He still has not been allowed to see anyone or talk to anyone. Sorry for the long post and many updates. With all the shares I figured this was the easiest way to keep everyone updated as we receive the info.

UPDATE: we are still being told by the jail and Lisa, Ryan's standby council, that the bullet was not taken out and that Ryan is in solitary. He is not being allowed to talk or see anyone and we have been told he has a "few" bruises but don't know how or why he has bruises. Angie said if he is in that jail then I should be able to talk to him and they told her she couldn't because he is in US marshal custody.

UPDATE: An inmate just called anonymously from the jail. He said I am suppose to call and let you know that they took the bullet out of Ryan's arm and then he hung up. PLEASE SHARE!!! PLEASE SHARE!!! HOW THE HELL IS THIS EVEN LEGAL!?!?! HOW CAN THIS BE HAPPENING IN AMERICA.

UPDATE: The jail and the Sheriff's office have now stopped answering phones. I will be posting info for news outlets to report this assault this morning by the Multnomah Guards and the reason for it....the prosecution doing whatever they can to get that bullet from Ryan's shoulder. why would they be trying so hard to remove the bullet without any witnesses??

UPDATE: just talked to Ammon. He is saying these 5 officers/guards jumped Ryan at 6am. He has the name of two other witnesses who watched this happen. Ammon said Ryan did not refuse to go to a hearing. He went to the hearing last week. Ammon said remember what this is about. This is about the prosecution wanting that bullet in his shoulder and Ryan refusing to allow them. Ammon said he tried to fill out a kyte form to explain what Ammon saw, demand answers, and report abuse and the guard wouldn't let Ammon fill out a kyte. Ammon also said at 6am this morning after they beat Ryan up and took him from the cell Ammon and two other witnesses watched them bring a garbage can over and start throwing away Ryan's stuff. Ryan is his own attorney and keeps his legal documents in his cell. Keep in mind trial is in 4 weeks. Call the jail, the first number and ask for Officer Penia and demand that they allow Ryan to call his wife and tell her exactly what happened today and let her know he is ok. If he is not allowed to call his wife and let her know he is ok by the end of today we will start calling all the news stations and reporting this assault of the Multnomah guards against Ryan Bundy. They want that bullet and they will do whatever t takes to get it. Ammon also said he got the names of the guards who were involved in all of this this morning. He doesn't want to release the names publicly right now but we do have them written down.

UPDATE: Ryan is now in solitary confinement. Jail is saying that to or from the courthouse Ryan got into it with one of the deputies so they put him in solitary. Interestingly enough Kelli was told that he refused to go to court LAST WEEK so they put him in solitary. Which is it?? Just some history on these harassments with Ryan. 2 surgeons refused to the prosecution to remove the bullets from Ryan's shoulder. Word is that they have now found one willing and so they are trying to jump through loops to remove the bullet asap. Cover-ups...lies....and deceit!!

UPDATE: Ryan's standby attorney Lisa said that she thinks they took him to a meeting. She isn't sure why they ganged up on him and beat him in the process or even what the meeting is for. She is trying to find out more info.
Mona drove to OSU hospital and he is not there.

EMERGENCY:

Please share! Ammon just called and said Ryan was just beaten up by 5 US Marshals. They slammed his head into the floor and dragged him out and bagged up all his stuff. There were several witnesses including Ammon. Nobody knows where they took him. They may be taking him to get the bullet out. They have been trying to get it out for weeks and Ryan has been refusing to allow them. Who can we call to put a stop to this? Can someone in Portland go down there? Please start making phone calls this is not ok. Call the jail and see if we can get them to tell us where he was taken. Call all the hospitals in the area OSU....I think there is one named providence?? Please post on this thread any info you get from any phone calls.

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Ammon Bundy would like to share with you what happened to his brother Ryan today at the jail. We still live in a country where men are innocent until proven guilty, don't we? We need your help to stop these abuses, Please listen and share.
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Ammon Bundy would like to share with you what happened to his brother Ryan today at the jail. We still live in a country where men are innocent until proven guilty, don't we? We need your help to stop these abuses, Please listen and share.








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