Notice any awakening?

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Originally Posted by EE_

I always liked using the building 7 arguement when I ran into people that claimed to have expert knowledge of 9/11.
It shut them up every time. That was before most people knew a third building went down.

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I still don't think most people know a third building went down.

The new dialectic that everybody seems to be falling for is socialist/libertarian. A lot more people are correctly identifying some of the problems, but too many are misidentifying the solutions.

As far as I can figure out, the dialectic works like this (what they are saying, not what I am saying):

Socialist:

Government solutions are necessary and they work because there is no profit motive to account for. Government solutions mean that workers will be protected and paid a living wage. Government solutions will end the problems of corporate welfare, corporate greed, and corporate malfeasance. Security is the buzzword.

Libertarian:

Government is inefficient and untrustworthy. Remove the government inefficiencies and you solve the problem. Entitlements need to be eliminated and people need to be held accountable. Besides, we can't afford them anymore. Buzzwords: realistic, accountable.

Of course, the real issues are never addressed in this dialectic. The never ending wars, the limited liabilities and all of their accountablity circumvention techniques, usury, the prison industrial complex, the medical industrial complex, legalized bribery in the form of campaign contributions, parasites like banks and insurance companies, etc (many others).

dys

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Originally Posted by Hatha Sunahara

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A very recent article published in Science Daily reveals the findings of a study that has yielded some very positive information for the Voluntaryist movement. In short, that once an ideology or set of beliefs is fervently held by ten percent of any given group or population, it invariably becomes the predominant philosophy throughout the entirety. Any less than this, and things remain more or less static amongst the adherants. Cross the ten percent Rubicon, as it were, and the movement begins to spread hither and yon like wildfire.
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Interesting analysis. More support that we are in the early stages of a historic decade.

Not a lot to say, except that I think people are waking up. I'm seeing it around me.

I attribute Obama's presidency to a lot of the disillusionment we are seeing today. Our society has been conditioned since WW2 that any sort of financial crisis won't last longer than a few months. Seeing our problems exacerbated under a new president who was supposed to be the savior of the economy has led to people questioning this paradigm and looking for answers to questions they never knew to ask before.

Recently most all are realizing that the world is run by private interests, not the government.

The common response is to do what's in their own private interest.

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Originally Posted by EE_

I always liked using the building 7 arguement when I ran into people that claimed to have expert knowledge of 9/11.
It shut them up every time. That was before most people knew a third building went down.

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This is a handy little doohickey, can post to messagboards, will animate in emails etc, just copy/paste:

The Strange, Free-Fall-Speed
Collapse "Due To Fire" Of
http://noliesradio.org/images/wtc7small.gif
World Trade Center Building 7

or alternatively,

Architects & Engineers:
http://noliesradio.org/images/wtc7small.gif
Solving the Mystery of
World Trade Center Building 7

if they click it- it goes to ae911truth.org's page: http://architects-engineers.org which then auto-plays their 15 minute mini-documentary just released a few months ago around 9/11/11,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

^ then you can comment something like, "you know, I'm thinking about converting to Judaism!" :D:o

http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/obamahotair.jpg

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Originally Posted by Horn

Recently most all are realizing that the world is run by private interests, not the government.

The common response is to do what's in their own private interest.

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The common response is more government to stop the evil corporations. They don't realize that .gov is a tool of the private interests they rail about.