When are you gonna get off the Ron Paul Bandwagon?

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Originally Posted by JJ.G0ldD0t

yep...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/im...tican37_29.jpg

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Do not make this about the Catholic Church in general. This is an Americanist issue. The Church in the US does have its own "special" character in some quarters.


http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ge-weigel?pg=1




It also includes a modernist issue (which permeates more than just the Catholic Church):

http://www.cfnews.org/page10/page34/...Modernist.html

I removed my name from the Voting registration years ago, but i still used word of mouth to show people who RP was. Actually, i have woken up many people over the years who follow RP die hard now. So in that respect, RP and his philosophy have been a great help to wake up the sheople.

BUT,

At some point guess what has happened? We have all become the most educated prisoners in the concentration camp.

I have wasted a lot of time learning how i got here, instead of doing something to get me out of it. People need to look in the mirror and admit that to themsleves. The problem with the average American, RP and voting, is that somewhere in their subconscious they want some one else to fix this problem. They want some one else to have to do the dirty work, so they dont have to.

Its just another form of limited liability.

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Originally Posted by sirgonzo420

I hear ya, but by "stayed out of the way", what exactly do you mean? .

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like I said.. monday morning quarterbacking ;)

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Originally Posted by sirgonzo420

If Ron Paul hadn't run in 2008 and 2012, do you really think the people that eventually turned to support him would have otherwise done anything against the banksters/moneymasters?

I don't see Ron Paul as a "containment vehicle" or something like that, because before he became better known publicly, there wouldn't have been as much of a "movement", real or imagined, to contain. His presidential campaigns precipitate(d) a change in thought in a continually-growing segment of the population, away from not giving a fuck, to at least having their eyes open to some if not all of the many frauds that are being committed against them.

I see Ron Paul as a net gain for Liberty, even though he is by no means a cure-all.

If nothing else, Ron Paul supporters make good neighbors, like Mormons. I don't agree completely with the Mormons either, but there are many bigger problems than Ron Paul or Mormons or whatever.

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Time will tell if it was a net gain or if TPTB used it to buy time. Thats all I got. Not saying you're wrong - just that its too early to tell.

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Originally Posted by JohnQPublic

Do not make this about the Catholic Church in general.

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I didn't intend to. That pic carried way less weight than my origional post and was a flasback to the post that DMac referenced from 04/01/10.
In fact it had more to do with the masonic symbols and nothing to do with the Church.

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Originally Posted by Sui Juris

....BUT,

At some point guess what has happened? We have all become the most educated prisoners in the concentration camp.

I have wasted a lot of time learning how i got here, instead of doing something to get me out of it. People need to look in the mirror and admit that to themsleves. The problem with the average American, RP and voting, is that somewhere in their subconscious they want some one else to fix this problem. They want some one else to have to do the dirty work, so they dont have to.

Its just another form of limited liability.

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THAT is what I'm talking about.

right on.

When am I going to get off the Ron Paul bandwagon...NEVER.

It is the right idea and idea's are all that matter.

The term "idealist" comes to mind and is rarely used affectionately. But hey if it floats your boat...

Nobody in our lifetime has turned people onto the freedom message like Ron Paul has, bar none, and add to the fact that it keeps growing by word of mouth among the people it's a very powerful thing.

I used to preach it 25-30 years ago and now look at what has happened, it would have NEVER happened without RP! Hell, 25-30 years ago most of you would have told me I'm a fucking nut bag.

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Originally Posted by Libertytree

Nobody in our lifetime has turned people onto the freedom message like Ron Paul has, bar none, and add to the fact that it keeps growing by word of mouth among the people it's a very powerful thing.

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not if you ain't free.

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Originally Posted by Sui Juris

.... We have all become the most educated prisoners in the concentration camp.

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Originally Posted by JohnQPublic

I don't like what is happening either. I am holding out for the possibility that he is purposely lying low so the Repub. Party does not find some way to disqualify him. I am also aware that a lot of his delegates are going to do what they want, even if Ron Paul asks them to support Romney. So I say let him continue to get delegates, and let them try and vote him in.

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RP HAS to lay low, he couldn't openly call for mass insurrection within the party! I can't help but think that he knows that he's created hundreds of Patrick Henry's that just don't give a flying shit about "the party" and are very concerned about their country! He can't control them, nor would he if he could, this is free market poliitcs in action! Even if he said support mitty, the vast majority will even tell RP to fuck off, just like they've told Rand to fuck off. It's still a very small movement but it can and will raise 3 kinds of hell in Tampa, bank on it.