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Originally Posted by
Hitcher
While you idiots are arguing about the weight of backpacks, the rights grabbers are probably working up a bill to flush our 4th amendment down the toilet.
"All backpacks can be searched at any time." We know the last false flag was to grab the 2nd amendment. Now, go for the 4th too. Search and seizure law is going to be under attack now. Mark my words.
No shit! We all know this but someone keeps repeating futile bullshit to derail the thread so that you can't follow what the fuck is going on. Reminds me of why I stopped occasionally reading GLP.
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Re: What happens when you give 4chan images of the Boston Marathon?
Fellow Board Members;
I feel you may be missing something important here. The 4chan site may have just invented Open Source Investigation. A group of individuals pooling their photos, videos and information on a crime scene may become a powerful tool, although whether it is used for good or evil will have to be determined. The individuals identified on the site may have had nothing to do with the bombing but wouldn't it be good for the authorities to talk to them? " Say Bud, it seems you had a backpack in this photo but not in this one. Mind if we compare your DNA with the skin cells we took off the pack strap?"
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brosil
Fellow Board Members;
I feel you may be missing something important here. The 4chan site may have just invented Open Source Investigation. A group of individuals pooling their photos, videos and information on a crime scene may become a powerful tool, although whether it is used for good or evil will have to be determined. The individuals identified on the site may have had nothing to do with the bombing but wouldn't it be good for the authorities to talk to them? " Say Bud, it seems you had a backpack in this photo but not in this one. Mind if we compare your DNA with the skin cells we took off the pack strap?"
I hear ya brosil, this is a positive.
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General of Darkness
But DAD, the guy is a cunt. LMAO.
I think the problem is some don't like anyone questioning what they already have their minds made up on. I for sure have a problem with authority, and cmon admit it, so do you.
Banning someone is akin to "murdering" them virtually, to silence them forever for causing "uncomfortable thoughts". I see it all the time on the internet. One viewpoint hates when it's done to them and vilifies the other, but then turns around wants to do the exact same thing in return when the time comes. This is why I don't try to pick sides when trying to get to the bottom of something as it all turns into a giant ocean of hypocrisy.
This is the only thread I've posted in actively in a while. I haven't started any threads, or even touched the other thread on this.
Not everything in life is a conspiracy, and to live in that head space sucks, and it makes life suck. I get there when I'm left with no other conclusion, and the facts have exhausted themselves one way or the other.
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Golden
I hear ya brosil, this is a positive.
Absolutely. The main issue is that the general public automatically sends all their pictures to the fbi, and they are not uploaded to some place where the internet has access to them. The lack of evidence is an issue not because the evidence doesn't exist, but because it's not publicly available.
http://www.reddit.com/r/AdviceAnimal...age_repost_it/
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http://www.theatlanticwire.com/natio...er-case/64312/
Reddit and 4Chan Are on the Boston Bomber Case
http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/u...5T_1/large.jpg Reddit
Alexander Abad-Santos 10:38 AM ET
The Boston Marathon bombing investigation, now in its third day, is not just the largest crime scene in the city's history — it's the most crowdsourced terror investigation in American history. With the FBI, the ATF, and Boston law enforcement soliciting videos, cellphone pictures, and anything that could lead to the capture of whoever set off those pressure cooker bombs, the plea has more or less turned the interested and the Internet into amateur investigators armed with what we know the remains of the bag and the bomb look like. On Reddit, where they can now apparently track murder by way of Google Maps and where some of the most detailed information on the Boston case has surfaced publicly, the FBI's plea for info has spurred the "Find Boston Bombers" subreddit, with all kinds of analysis. But here's the find they're most excited about: They've found a photo of a man with a backpack that has straps which resemble what federal officials believe is the detonated backpack. (Update: Authorities appeared to have a suspect — follow here.)
We have obscured the man's face because, well, the only suggestion of a connection to the bombings comes from people on Reddit who have been looking at photographs:
http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/u...da_640x335.jpg
And one more angle, showing extreme close up of the straps.
http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/u...81_640x370.jpg
Again, we can only vouch for the image of the detonated bag, which the FBI says contained one of the pressure cooker bombs. There are no details on where the image of the man in the blue jacket came from, or at what time it was taken during the marathon, or the location— the only reference we have is that it trickled down from social media and Flickr, and down to sites like 4chan and Reddit. Redditors, to their credit, haven't been shy in voicing the skepticism and concern with pinning this terror attack on an innocent man:
http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/u...6a_640x135.jpg
The Atlantic's Alexis Madrigal has a compelling point about how this Internet vigilantism movement is troubling, and could end up in people being unfairly singled out. And yes, there's a deep, and problematic potential of that happening. The blue sweater picture isn't the only other photo popping up however, like this one who one poster believes could be smuggling a pressure cooker bomb because of the shape of his backpack:
http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/u...17/i7S8bEm.jpg
Internet sleuths believe this a photo of that same man without his backpack (we can't tell one way or another):
http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/u...f5_500x481.jpg
And this, one, which we sorta have no idea why things are being circled:
http://cdn.theatlanticwire.com/img/u...ff_640x483.jpg
Reading through the amateur forensics feels like an intense and puzzling game of Where's Waldo. But it's a byproduct of what you get when the FBI asks the public for help. Jittery nerves lead to things like the New Yorkers who reported 77 suspicious packages in the wake of the Boston bombings, and multiple incorrect Chris Dorner sightings in February. And the blue robe man, along with the pressure cooker backpack man, are all tips—tips that part of the thousands the FBI receives. As The Washington Post reported: [Richard] DesLauriers said cooperation from the community will play a key role in the investigation. He said the range of suspects remained wide open, but by midday Tuesday more than 2,000 tips had been received.
(Click here for the latest updates on Day Three, and click here for complete coverage of Boston.)
Want to add to this story? Let us know in comments or send an email to the author at aabadsantos@theatlantic.com. You can share ideas for stories on the Open Wire.
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Re: What happens when you give 4chan images of the Boston Marathon?
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joboo
Not everything in life is a conspiracy
Ahhhh yes, the MANTRA of an internet shill. Knew it would show up here.
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Originally Posted by
joboo
I think the problem is some don't like anyone questioning what they already have their minds made up on. I for sure have a problem with authority, and cmon admit it, so do you.
Banning someone is akin to "murdering" them virtually, to silence them forever for causing "uncomfortable thoughts". I see it all the time on the internet. One viewpoint hates when it's done to them and vilifies the other, but then turns around wants to do the exact same thing in return when the time comes. This is why I don't try to pick sides when trying to get to the bottom of something as it all turns into a giant ocean of hypocrisy.
This is the only thread I've posted in actively in a while. I haven't started any threads, or even touched the other thread on this.
Not everything in life is a conspiracy, and to live in that head space sucks, and it makes life suck. I get there when I'm left with no other conclusion, and the facts have exhausted themselves one way or the other.
Not everything in life is a conspiracy, but a lot of things are, and this event is most likely a "conspiracy" too, unless it was just one guy all by himself.
Perhaps you're misusing the word "conspiracy"?
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conspiracy (kən-spîrˈə-sē) n. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
n. A group of conspirators.
n. Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
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Some anonymous pics of people wearing backpacks, and automatically there's bombs in them? Excuse me, what's the source again?
...and anyone that doesn't automatically believe it should be banned, and is a jew shill.
Good grief. Fuckt up beyond belief when it gets to that point.
Sorry, but holy shit that's just sad.
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Internet sleuths believe this a photo of that same man without his backpack (we can't tell one way or another):
the choice words of joboo...
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Re: What happens when you give 4chan images of the Boston Marathon?
Real world experience:
My 16-qt pressure cooker won't fit in my backpack, but empty, it's very light, being made of heavy gauge aluminum. Assuming a smaller cooker was used, I can't imagine it would be too tremendously heavy filled with gunpowder and ball bearings.
A backpack would carry it, but would sag, probably look a bit odd and bulky, and would feel weird to anyone who happened to brush against it. They'd be like: "what the fuck does that guy have in his backpack, a fuckin' pressure cooker?!"
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Originally Posted by
joboo
Some anonymous pics of people wearing backpacks, and automatically there's bombs in them? Excuse me, what's the source again?
...and anyone that doesn't automatically believe it should be banned, and is a jew shill.
Good grief. Fuckt up beyond belief when it gets to that point.
Sorry, but holy shit that's just sad.
I think you are confused.
If one person, solo, bombed someone, it's not a conspiracy.
If one person bombs someone with another person's help, or multiple people are involved in carrying it out, then it *is* a conspiracy.
Do you believe that bombs went off in Boston?
If not, why not - it's on TeeVee after all.
If you do believe that bombs went off in Boston, do you think it was one person who planted all the bombs all by himself, with no help from any other at any point, or do you think it was multiple people?
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I could fit a full case of beer in the box in backpack while in college. :o
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sirgonzo420
Real world experience:
My 16-qt pressure cooker won't fit in my backpack, but empty, it's very light, being made of heavy gauge aluminum. Assuming a smaller cooker was used, I can't imagine it would be too tremendously heavy filled with gunpowder and ball bearings.
A backpack would carry it, but would sag, probably look a bit odd and bulky, and would feel weird to anyone who happened to brush against it. They'd be like: "what the fuck does that guy have in his backpack, a fuckin' pressure cooker?!"
I think they are claiming 6 liter cookers, ~6quarts.
"One of the two devices that's been called a pressure cooker, it was 6 liters," he said. "Now that's interesting because in the U.S. we'd call that one and a half gallons. But here's something that says 6 liters. That could suggest the pressure cooker had been made internationally."
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StreetsOfGold
Ahhhh yes, the MANTRA of an internet shill. Knew it would show up here.
An internet shill that doesn't even read or post in 95% of this forum, yet is still vilified ad nauseum. Brilliant.
I have my limits on what I'll blindly believe without additional information, and so far what I see counters the official narrative of these pressure cookers stuffed into backpacks. That's the opposite of shilling, but hey...keep up the stellar analysis.
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JohnQPublic
I think they are claiming
6 liter cookers, ~6quarts.
"One of the two devices that's been called a pressure cooker, it was 6 liters," he said. "Now that's interesting because in the U.S. we'd call that one and a half gallons. But here's something that says 6 liters. That could suggest the pressure cooker had been made internationally."
Or maybe the bastards are just trying to ban guns/gunpowder and backpacks, and get us all on the metric system all at once.
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osoab
They saythe guy was seen at both sites. Only this photo is given. I'm convinced.
That looks like an all together different site from the one I saw with the smoke.
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Originally Posted by
JohnQPublic
I think they are claiming
6 liter cookers, ~6quarts.
"One of the two devices that's been called a pressure cooker, it was 6 liters," he said. "Now that's interesting because in the U.S. we'd call that one and a half gallons. But here's something that says 6 liters. That could suggest the pressure cooker had been made internationally."
I have one that size, it's stainless steel, and weighs 5.7 pounds with the lid, and is 7 inches tall from base to lid, not including the pressure release valve on top, (add 2 more inches). If it was aluminum I would guess maybe 3.5 pounds. This thing would be filled with maybe 5 or so pounds of "stuff" (?)... so realistically this thing would be just under, or approx 10lbs. Not sure if that dispels or confirms anything at this point.
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joboo
...and anyone that doesn't automatically believe it should be banned, and is a jew shill.
http://original.antiwar.com/wp-conte.../06/foxman.jpg
Oy Vey! Don't face this antisemitic hate and abuse all by yourself joboo. Email your boss and demand some reinforcements from the head office.
>:(
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Originally Posted by
joboo
I have one that size, it's stainless steel, and weighs 5.7 pounds with the lid, and is 7 inches tall from base to lid, not including the pressure release valve on top, (add 2 more inches). If it was aluminum I would guess maybe 3.5 pounds. This thing would be filled with maybe 5 or so pounds of "stuff" (?)... so realistically this thing would be just under, or approx 10lbs. Not sure if that dispels or confirms anything at this point.
And where the fuck were you yesterday DW?
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General of Darkness
And where the fuck were you yesterday DW?
Getting it back from DHS, waited in line for hours. Their customer service dept is the shits!
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joboo
Getting it back from DHS, waited in line for hours. Their customer service dept is the shits!
I had no idea you had to go to customer service to close out your assignment. Good to know DW.
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Jewboo
Maybe you missed the part where I've never called for anyone to be banned on this forum because they had a differing opinion from me ???
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle.
You hate those that want to put you down, but then you want to do the same in return. Tit for tat, there's no obvious moral high ground that I can see. At some point everyone is going to have to get along in the world or we'll all be wearing radiation suits before long. How we get there I don't know, but I do know how we won't get there.
Anonymous pictures on the net of people wearing backpacks from 4chan does not compel me in any great direction. It's cool to see though (props to OP for posting), and I actually dig this part about hashing out conspiracies. A lot more can be accomplished via group thinking. For good, and also for bad. I'd bet money at least one of those people in the pics is completely innocent, and about to have their lives uprooted by rush to judgement.
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Originally Posted by
General of Darkness
I had no idea you had to go to customer service to close out your assignment. Good to know DW.
Oh no, I didn't wait in line, I had my assistant do it. I'm actually making dinner with it now. Pork sausages wrapped in bacon.
What's the DW reference?
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Originally Posted by
joboo
Maybe you missed the part where I've never called for anyone to be banned on this forum because they had a differing opinion from me ???
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle.
You hate those that want to put you down, but then you want to do the same in return. Tit for tat, there's no obvious moral high ground that I can see. At some point everyone is going to have to get along in the world or we'll all be wearing radiation suits before long. How we get there I don't know, but I do know how we won't get there.
Anonymous pictures on the net of people wearing backpacks from 4chan does not compel me in any great direction. It's cool to see though (props to OP for posting), and I actually dig this part about hashing out conspiracies. A lot more can be accomplished via group thinking. For good, and also for bad. I'd bet money at least one of those people in the pics is completely innocent, and about to have their lives uprooted by rush to judgement.
You don't have a friend called Jordan do you?
http://www.humorbash.com/admin/upload/6f1h6m3t7.jpg
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joboo
What's the DW reference?
It's for me to know DW.
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General of Darkness
It's for me to know DW.
Why not share it with the group? I already have my guesses, and it's probably a generous compliment becase anything less would mean you're ultimately perhaps just a hateful person filled with spite? I refuse to believe that.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle.
^^ That's the truth btw. It's all that's happening here. 4chan has not rocked my world yet on this. Sorry if that angers you.
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joboo
Why not share it with the group? I already have my guesses, and it's probably a generous compliment becase anything less would mean you're ultimately perhaps just a hateful person filled with spite? I refuse to believe that.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle.
^^ That's the truth btw. It's all that's happening here. 4chan has not rocked my world yet on this. Sorry if that angers you.
DW, I'm holding on to this one.
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General of Darkness
DW, I'm holding on to this one.
I've got it. DW = Divorced Wife. You and joboo were married at one point. Why didn't you invite us to the divorce party?
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Originally Posted by
joboo
I have one that size, it's stainless steel, and weighs 5.7 pounds with the lid, and is 7 inches tall from base to lid, not including the pressure release valve on top, (add 2 more inches). If it was aluminum I would guess maybe 3.5 pounds. This thing would be filled with maybe 5 or so pounds of "stuff" (?)... so realistically this thing would be just under, or approx 10lbs. Not sure if that dispels or confirms anything at this point.
stainless steel, 1.6 psig pressure cooker (see picture SS 1.6)
http://agmetalminer.com/2013/04/17/b...-yields-clues/
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Hitcher
I've got it. DW = Divorced Wife. You and joboo were married at one point. Why didn't you invite us to the divorce party?
Don't make me sink your boat via your vagina hole.
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You know what's funny? I'm trying to discuss the details/logistics of the pics, and instead, *some* of you guys keep calling me out with the ol "anti semite"... tactics.
Debate the info?...hell no...it's time to play the anti semite name game to shut down the debate!
Textbook examples right out of the playbook. Keeps happening time, and time again with the same users.
A bunch of closet jews in denial. Too funny. Talk about ultimate irony. Thanks for the laughs.
cmon...you guys are better than that.
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JohnQPublic
The 4chan pics estimated 30lbs, but I'm thinking were looking at 15 lbs max (edit: probably 11-12lbs) for the weight of these things. According to the Alex Jones comments they're now looking for the mid eastern guy in the blue track jacket. One thing that strikes me as odd is some of the comments use the person as not paying attention to prove something, but if you look closely there's all kinds of people looking in various directions not "paying attention". If the photos were compiled by the same person that made this comment it's a red flag for me.
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Originally Posted by
General of Darkness
DW, I'm holding on to this one.
Hey man whatever, go nuts.
Dear diary, someone on the internet disagreed with me today over some 4chan pics, so I made up a special little secret name, and will keep it close to me always.
Phew...I think I got some dust in my eyes, getting all watery here...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0HWRQ8YnrWg
Published on Apr 15, 2013 (Direct Link)
University of Mobile’s Cross Country Coach, who was near the finish line of the Boston Marathon when a series of explosions went off, said he thought it was odd there were bomb sniffing dogs at the start and finish lines.
“They kept making announcements to the participants do not worry, it’s just a training exercise,” Coach Ali Stevenson told Local 15.Stevenson said he saw law enforcement spotters on the roofs at the start of the race. He’s been in plenty of marathons in Chicago, D.C., Chicago, London and other major metropolitan areas but has never seen that level of security before.
“Evidently, I don’t believe they were just having a training exercise,” Stevenson said. “I think they must have had some sort of threat or suspicion called in.”Stevenson had just finished the marathon before the explosions. Stevenson said his wife had been sitting in one of the seating sections where an explosion went off, but thankfully she left her seat and was walking to meet up with him. “We are just so thankful right now,” Stevenson said.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/04...er-inside-job/
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Rumor --- rumor ---rumor
I found this post on the 'net.
"I’ll keep it as short can I can. They’re going to pin this event on a male late teens to early 20s and say he did it because he’s unstable. They are going to find firearms and a NRA book in his home. They are going to to say he used reloading powder for the explosion and that reloading powder shouldn’t be for sale to the public. They are then going to say that because the powder in ammunition can be used for explosions that the number of rounds you can buy should be limited and taxed to help pay for these events....They won’t find the suspect till later this week and the raid is issued to occur on Friday. This was a staged event. The people hurt are real but the event was planned. Don’t let them hurt our rights."
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joboo
Phew...I think I got some dust in my eyes, getting all watery here...
You and the General have been bickering back and forth like an old married couple.
You guys need to hug, and make up. :)
Cheers! This thread started out great, then you folks started crying like a bunch of babies...