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Spingola did a 3 hour show with 'Nick' aka Bread & Circuses handle at Mamis. Fortunately only the third hour discusses Sandy Hoax... and I think everything I heard, I've already deconstructed above. I simply linked to my reply 71 above in the Mami's comments for this Nick/Deanna show. Jump to about 1hr 59mins for the top of the SH portion:
There's one aspect of DS's post-Mar-4 treatment of WHalbig which I thought but haven't thus far commented on, so I'll note it here. DS remarked to Nick something I heard her remark before, in Mami's comments if not also verbally in her subsequent shows. She noted that her treatment of WH was different from her usual "interview style", because WH had already been on several alt media shows prior to her Mar 4 "interview" with him, and he always had a fellow SHoax-skeptic host who never questioned anything WH said. So, said DS, she was determined not to let him "dominate" the discussion in their 3/4 show.
What DS hasn't said, was that beginning with her initial, solo 1/15 show "coming out on SHoax", and her 3/4 interview with WH, she had done at least SEVEN (7) shows (listed below), either solo (6 of the 7) where she simply read aloud pre-prepared dissertations supportive of the official Joosh SHoax narrative, or with a fellow-advocate of the Joosh SHoax narrative like KJohnson (or MCP on 12/26, prior to her own 1/15 show announcing her support of the Joosh narrative of SHoax):
Thursday, Deanna ~ Sandy Hook (3) (Feb 20- Part 3 of DS's attack on Sofia's SH video)
The Spingola Zone at AFP 2/18/2014 (Part 2 of DS's attack on Sofia's SH video)
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014, on the same day that Halbig emailed me, on my AFP program, which broadcast from 2-4pm (CST), I presented Part 1 of my critique on Sofia Smallstorm's video: Sofia Smallstorm Unraveling Sandy Hook During my program, Halbig called into the program and strongly suggested that I stop critiquing Smallstorm's video as it was a waste of airtime; hear that sound-bite here
Wednesday, Keith Johnson (Feb 5)
Thursday, Deanna ~ Sandy Hook (2) (Jan 23)
On Tuesday, January 21, 2014: On my AFP program, I talked about Sandy Hook
Wednesday, Deanna ~ Sandy Hook (Jan 15)
and this 12/26 show with guest MCPiper, which was a 2 hr MCP rant against JFetzer, JFriend, & SHoax skepticism:
But DS has repeatedly claimed that prior to their 3/4 "interview", that WH had done multiple shows in which he was unchallenged by the host, and therefore she "wasn't going to let WH dominate the discussion". No mention by DS of her own SEVEN (7) prior SHoax shows beginning Jan 15; with 6 of them SOLO.
So rather than letting WH "dominate the discussion" on Mar 4; DS again portraying herself as VICTIM™ while again trying to project that accusation onto WH, dominated the show herself instead, interrupting WH relentlessly; absurdly denying that she was seeking to discredit WH, and did around 80% of the talking herself, largely trying to play "GOTCHA" wrt WH's resume (items unrelated to his WH questions). :(
See fuller critique of this 3/4 "interview" in reply 54 above.
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RE ^ reply 81; a Mami's mod who didn't identify them self (like via a new comment)*, deleted at least 4 of the 5 comments which had been posted since I last checked about 2 hours ago. 3 were made by me! The only comment left atm is from the troll 'Aleksa'.
*EDIT: offending Mami's mod appears to have been "zapopper", as he since commented & closed the thread to further comments.
Here's the 4 removed comments; notice my 2nd one here is a shortened version of my reply 81 above:
https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifPat Colo said...
Re the Sandy Hoax discussion beginning around the 2 hour mark, my critique:
http://tinyurl.com/kx83ghs
March 20, 2014 at 2:46 AM
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Pat Colo said...
Deanna @ 2:20:50:
"[...] Well, he's [W.Halbig] been on everybody's program; he's been on Alex Jones', he's been on so many programs, and nobody challenges anything he says. [...]"
Funny, Deanna keeps bemoaning this "observation", and how she wasn't going to let WH
"monopolize the conversation" with her on their Mar 4 SH "interview". However, what DS hasn't reminded listeners, was that beginning with her initial solo 1/15 show proclaiming her advocacy of the Joo SHoax narrative, and her 3/4 interview with WH; she had done at least
SEVEN (7) SHoax shows (listed below), either
SOLO (6 of the 7 shows) or with a
fellow-advocate of the Joo SHoax narrative like KJohnson.
Jan 15: DS's initial SHoax show, solo.
Jan 21: DS's 2nd SHoax show, solo.
Jan 23: DS's 3rd SHoax show, solo.
Jan 25: Guest was fellow-advocate of the Joo SHoax narrative, KJohnson.
Feb 11: DS's 5th SHoax show, solo.
Feb 18: DS's 6th SHoax show, solo.
Feb 20: DS's 7th SHoax show, solo.
So rather than letting WH
"dominate the discussion" on Mar 4; DS again portraying herself as
VICTIM™ while again trying to project that accusation onto WH, dominated the show herself instead, interrupting WH relentlessly; absurdly denying that she was seeking to discredit WH, and did around 80% of the talking herself, largely trying to play
"GOTCHA" wrt WH's resume
(items like Suite-Number-Gate, unrelated to his SH questions).
More, incl links to all the shows listed above, at
http://tinyurl.com/q8dza2f
March 20, 2014 at 7:36 AM
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https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifAr Seeus said...
Who is this rambling lunatic writing nonsense? Oh, it's Pat Colo. Go figure.
Hey Pat:
Prove to me Israel loving Halbig is not a jew. He sure whines like one and it is he that is claiming that he is a victim yet you're trying to turn it around on Deanna?
You Sandy Hoaxers make me laugh out loud. You so funny!
March 20, 2014 at 7:54 AM
https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifPat Colo said...
Hey ArSeeus/Consti2tionalist/ExposeSupremacism/Rockclimber/George Jones:
Very joowey of you asking me to "prove a negative".
What's LOL funny is you Joo SHoax narrative cheerleaders, trying to ad-hom WH based upon his
(misguided/deceived) support of izzy. I guess you're hoping SHoax skeptics won't notice YOUR SUPPORT of the JOO-SHhoax narrative, by
(trying futilely to) deflect attention instead towards WH's being joozmedia brainwashed on izzy/zio-myths, same as most 'murkans?
So WH isn't joo-wise... what's DS & your (&Aleksa's) excuse? lol
March 20, 2014 at 8:22 AM
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Another DS interview today shilling for the official zionist SHoax narrative. Guests are Keith Johnson and simply "Wade". I've just started listening; and all 3 participants are allegedly going to answer WHalbig's "16 Questions"-- and so far it sounds like the same old tact, namely citing the official zionist reports and ziomedia news stories. I don't think I'll make it through this 2 hour MP3; too annoying! I think I'll jump ahead to the "bottom of the 3rd hour" (actually about 1h 40min in this comm-free version of the MP3), in hopes that they get some callers who challenge their spew.
EDIT: I listened to the "bottom of the 3rd hour" (1hr 40mins), and tellingly, they take NO CALLERS. I wonder how many callers were in the queue, waiting for DS to take them as she promised at the opening, and again at the top of the 3rd hour (1hr 20mins in the mp3)??
I hate to link to mami's for the MP3 link,
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/...-20140330.html
but since mami's banned my home IP last week, I can still access via proxy server; but the proxy changes every link on the page to one going through their server, and I haven't figured out how to get around this. Anyone? It's a telling indictment of mami's that they have key mods who censor/ban articulate voices critical of the official zionist SHoax story! You can check the link above to see the mami's comments for the show-- if you see a critical comment, check back later and see if it hasn't been removed/censored by mami's mods? :(
Much more interesting than this latest DS show above, was the latest Dennis Fetcho show with guest john kaminski, who comes on at around 1hr 15mins, through the end of the 2hr show:
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/...-20140329.html
where beginning around 1h 25mins, they talk SHoax and the untenable position taken by DS, KJ, MCP & MG; with Fetcho even saying he scratched his head to the point of bleeding, confounded by DS's new position on SHoax. They note the oddity of these 4 prominent alt-media voices (they forgot Hesham Tillawi, who I never listen to...), and how they're all so vehement about supporting the official zionist SHoax story... and implying without saying, that they've been gotten to... hear hear!!
Otherwise, there was this recent Fetzer show on SHoax:
Monday, March 24, 2014
Kelley from Tulsa and Kate Slate
^ MP3 link
Sandy Hook
Posted by Total at 9:13 PM 28 comments:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
PatColo
Another DS interview today shilling for the official zionist SHoax narrative. Guests are Keith Johnson and simply "Wade". I've just started listening; and all 3 participants are allegedly going to answer WHalbig's "16 Questions"-- and so far it sounds like the same old tact, namely citing the official zionist reports and ziomedia news stories. I don't think I'll make it through this 2 hour MP3; too annoying! I think I'll jump ahead to the "bottom of the 3rd hour" (actually about 1h 40min in this comm-free version of the MP3), in hopes that they get some callers who challenge their spew.
EDIT: I listened to the "bottom of the 3rd hour" (1hr 40mins), and tellingly, they take NO CALLERS. I wonder how many callers were in the queue, waiting for DS to take them as she promised at the opening, and again at the top of the 3rd hour (1hr 20mins in the mp3)??
I hate to link to mami's for the MP3 link,
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/...-20140330.html
but since
mami's banned my home IP last week, I can still access via proxy server; but the proxy changes every link on the page to one going through their server, and I haven't figured out how to get around this. Anyone? It's a telling indictment of mami's that they have key mods who censor/ban articulate voices critical of the official zionist SHoax story!
You can check the link above to see the mami's comments for the show-- if you see a critical comment, check back later and see if it hasn't been removed/censored by mami's mods? :(
I managed to post the following reply to shill "George Jones", check HERE to see how long it lasts before a mami's mod deletes it,
https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifGeorge Jones said...
buelahman said...
I even believed the official 9-11 story once upon a time lol
"And you still apparently believe in the official Sandy Hook story."
"Telling."
Excuse me? Did you even listen to this? They carefully answered each question that HalBIG posed and furthermore deconstructed the fallacies put forth by the hoaxers. If you have a problem call in Deanna or Keith's show and confront them with your concerns. (but you won't)
March 31, 2014 at 10:54 PM
https://www.blogger.com/img/blank.gifPat Colo said...
"Excuse me? Did you even listen to this? They carefully answered each question that HalBIG posed and furthermore deconstructed the fallacies put forth by the hoaxers."
They ran their same old worn out shtick; propping up djooz & your official SHoax narrative, by ref'ing djooz.gov "official reports" & djooz.media.gov "news" stories... pretending these "sources" are holier than the talmud itself! Zzzzz.
"If you have a problem call in Deanna or Keith's show and confront them with your concerns. (but you won't)"
Tellingly, DS took NO CALLERS. I wonder how many callers were in the queue, waiting for DS to fulfill her promise at the opening (said she'd take calls in the third hour) and again at the top of the 3rd hour (said she'd take calls beginning BOTTOM of the 3rd hour)?! So what happened in this last half hour? They continued to blow-hard through the end of the show, ignoring DS's promises to take callers! Actually taking random unknown callers, could end up jeopardizing their talmudic shtick, after all!! lol
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/...-20140329.html
^ beginning about 1hr 23mins, Fetcho & Kaminski talk SHoax and the laughably untenable position taken by DS, KJ, MCP & MG; with Fetcho even saying he scratched his head to the point of bleeding, confounded by DS's new position on SHoax. They note the oddity of these 4 prominent alt-media voices so vehement about supporting djooz' official SHoax story... and implying without saying, that they've been gotten to... hear hear!!
"Forum Shill gets Busted: ATS and GLP Censor to Cover his Tracks"
http://www.insanemedia.net/forum-shi...r-n-7015a/2924
Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...ndy-Hook-Story
March 31, 2014 at 11:57 PM
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PatColo, If you get a chance to listen to the first hour of the Pete Santilli show (Rense radio) from this afternoon, you can hear a half hour interview with Deanna about Sandy Hook. I'd be interested in what you think about this interview.
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U mean the 3/31 show? It's the last rense has posted, http://renseradioarchives.com/petesantilli
I d/l'd the first hour, no Delphi-Deanna.
I don't really care for sanshilly, bad actor,
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Pat,
things are getting pretty nasty there. There's a lot of these flying about. you take care. and be careful who you let sidle up to you. even from here. I'm smelling something a bit too sweet around here. Doesn't sit well with me. There are always new personas coming in here who have been here before. but that there is a different ball game.
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PatColo, I agree with you about Santilli, but, he has a regular guest on his 3rd hour sometimes who seems level headed and I listen to him at times (I don't remember his name). It must have been the 3rd hour when I heard Deanna for the first half hour, and then the regular guest after that. The thing about the interview Santilli had with Deanna was that Pete was very polite and respectful in his interview style with Deanna, and she exhibited no hostility - it allowed for a clearing of the air, so to speak.
What I got from it was that Deanna actually started out believing the Sandy Hook story first, and she uses the "reports" as confirmation, really, but, she misleads us to believe that it is BECAUSE of the "reports" that she believes it. She seems to be blinded by her own conviction, and, I have lost interest in listening to her anymore. She was such a probing researcher in other areas, but, with Sandy Hook, she seems to have fallen apart as far as her investigative instincts. Santilli asked her if she was a "sandy Hook Believer", and, she replied that she was a "truth seeker".
Santilli pointed out several incorrect assumptions she was making, but he did it very politely and Deanna responded, in a similar polite manner, so that a listener could garner from the interview that either a) Deanna has been blinded by some fundamental aversion to the idea of children being abused, or b) she has been "gotten to" and is hiding it from her listeners. I used to be a listener, because of her many areas of probing investigation, but, this turn of events with respect to Sandy Hook has left me disillusioned with Deanna and I no longer care to listen to her programs any more.
I was hoping you would maybe have some insight after hearing the exchange between Santilli and Deanna. During the interview, Pete brought up the holohoax and Hitler, and, Deanna resumed her normal stance, saying it was an example of "Hollywood at their best", which left Pete miffed somewhat, but, the conversation quickly returned to the Sandy Hook imbroglio. It was as if Deanna snapped out of her "trance" when not discussing Sandy Hook, and you got to see the Deanna we have all come to like and respect, but, when they returned to Sandy Hook, she resumed her new and illogical attitude - this is something I wouldn't have expected after hearing Deanna for the last two years.
Very disappointing. If you get around to hearing it, I'd like your insight - I've followed your posts over at mami's and here and I think you got it spot on. I just can't get over seeing Deanna get so out of character over this Sandy Hook nonsense. I wonder if her many listeners are as disillusioned over this as I am. There just has to be a logical answer to this turn of events.
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Jerrylynnb
I wonder if her many listeners are as disillusioned over this as I am. There just has to be a logical answer to this turn of events.
I think the prescription drug end of it is very real for many people. They see the resultant damage of them in their own lives knowing too close the effects of bigpharma on their relatives and others close to them.
When they see pharmaceutical companies being protected from such "disinfo." or unreleased info in the msm, they automatically assume the rest of the story proper.
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Originally Posted by
Jerrylynnb
...this turn of events with respect to Sandy Hook has left me disillusioned with Deanna and I no longer care to listen to her programs any more... I just can't get over seeing Deanna get so out of character over this Sandy Hook nonsense. I wonder if her many listeners are as disillusioned over this as I am. There just has to be a logical answer to this turn of events.
Well, for what it's worth, I also used to listen to Deanna a lot over the past two years, but completely stopped after she flipped and started aggressively promoting the jewish media version of Sandy Hook. And I know of several others who have also stopped listening to her. I'm still trying to make sense of why she changed her stance on Sandy Hook. When it initially happened, she was questioning it like the rest of us. On her schedule page for back in 2012, you can see that on 12/31 she linked to "31 Interesting Questions about Newtown Shootings" and the Robbie Parker video, with him laughing as he went up to the microphone. She also did a show with Dr. K (maybe back in May or April 2013), who went over Sandy Hook hoax and the Boston bombing hoax, and she never indicated any disagreement with the idea that these events were hoaxes. Spingola also did a show w/Dave McGowan on the Boston marathon bombing being a hoax, and, if I recall correctly, she asked him if he had had a chance to look at Sandy Hook (with the implication being that that was a hoax as well). Everything seemed to change last November after she read Michael Collins Piper's latest book, which apparently goes along with the official narrative on Sandy Hook and Boston, and suggests that those of us who see those two events as hoaxes have somehow been manipulated by Cass Sunstein. I was in her chatroom when she had MCP on to talk about the JFK assassination and his new book, and it was quite obvious that, by that time, she had completely changed her stance SH and was now totally in agreement with MCP. And her personality changed as well, as she was quite rude and obnoxious toward me in the chat. I think I made a couple of complimentary remarks about MCP's work on JFK, but then added that "MCP doesn't get the hoax element." Well, she kind of went on the attack after I made that remark and she repeatedly (in a bit of a harassing and obnoxious manner) put in the chat "have you read his book? Have you read his book?" And I kept having to tell her politely that I didn't need to read his book b/c I had already listened to him on countless radio shows give his take on SH. And, as an educated person, I really don't need a radio host to tell me how to think--I do my own research and figure thing out myself. So, anyway, it just seems as though she was really taken in by MCP's book, which seems rather pathetic b/c Fetzer and Friend did a show on MCP's book, and it sounds as though there's not much to his argument, other than that Devvy Kidd says Sandy Hook hoax theories are crazy (since when did she become some sort of expert on psyops?) and Cass Sunstein talked about infiltrating the truth movement (as if this is some sort of ground breaking news--there's always been infiltration).
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Thanks for the strokes, and the meaty reply 88 with show recap Jerrylynnb; maybe I'll just not suffer through the sanshilli/Delphi-Deanna 1/2 hour now! :D Also, she's chimed in @ mami's now, claiming the recent DS/KJ/Wade show had no callers. I'd speculate, it had no listeners by the 3rd hour! Even with my later review of the comm-free mp3, I spent about a cumulative 30-40 mins with it, skipping to the "caller" portion, which ended up not existing.
Oh and guess who she's having on her AFP show beginning in around an hour?
Deanna's guest today is Wade of Sandy Hook Analysis and Sandy Hook Facts.
I'll be Zzzzzz, will skip though the MP3 later; prolly just seeking the callers portion, if any. Love Wade's "...Facts" nonsense, taking the Delphi-Deanna approach of citing djooz.media.gov's official reports & "news" stories as the SOURCE of all TRULY TRUE & FACTUAL TRUTH! ;D
Earlier in this thread Amanda & I were discussing Delphi's shows last year with Dr. K & McGowan; find links to both shows mp3s here.
this article from 12/29/13 contains a link to MCP/CIA's "False Flags" book as pdf near the end of the article portion. He even tips us off on what chapters to read, which I haven't done myself, plan to later; but U might be interested in reading the "case" in favor of zion.gov's SHoax story which MCP/CIA made in the book, which DS proclaims "convinced her" lol.
Sandy Hook: Hoax or Truth? Tracy, Smallstorm, & Fetzer vs. Michael Collins Piper
I just thought to recheck that ^ comment thread; there's a new one just posted Mar 29:
Quote:
Recynd said...
I realize I'm late to the party, but how, exactly, was this an interview? The host did the majority of the talking (and rudely at that)! I am not a Halbig supporter (nor am I an opponent; only time will tell about Mr. Halbig's motives), but he was treated VERY poorly by the interviewer. This wasn't a "hard-hitting interview" that "asked the tough questions", it was a hack job to support a personal agenda!
One does not have to be nudged, hypnotized, or highly suggestible to see that there is something incredibly fishy with the official SH narrative. I figured that out on my own, from mainstream sources and government reports. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, Spingola's "debunking" of Smallstorm's work (as well as this interview with Halbig) relies heavily on cherry-picking, vague insinuation, misunderstanding, and suggestions of her own. Never does Spingola address the most relevant points or questions that "Hoaxers" have!
How I WISH someone would debunk Hoaxers' suspicions...but as of yet, no one has. I, for one, would not require "beyond a shadow of a doubt" evidence for my mind to be changed, but SOME evidence--ANY evidence--would be nice. How sad that it's come to this...but isn't THAT the point? I'm NOT a ghoul who relishes in the misery of others, but I'm not a sucker either. I don't hold others to a higher standard than I hold myself, either. If I had been caught in as many lies as our government has, I would certainly not expect anyone to take my word for anything.
Simply put (borrowing from an Adam Sandler movie), I am actually more stupid for having listened to the Spingola's Halbig interview. Thanks for nothing.
March 29, 2014 at 4:29 PM
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First & only comment there ^ atm is from me; check the link to see if mami's censors it:
Pat Colo said...
Mami's rightly doesn't post Sanshilli shows, but Deanna did the first half hour on Sanshilli's show on Monday.
http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/pet.../hr3033114.mp3
Sanshilli's was the first Deanna interview I've heard who's challenged her on her complete blind faith & reliance on djooz.gov's "official reports" & "news" stories, in supporting her proclaimed S.Hoax beliefs. Deanna gave some quite absurd "responses", lol. 2nd half hour there, Patrick Henningson comes on, and they talk a bit of S.Hoax too.
Also if you missed it:
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/...-20140329.html
^ beginning about 1hr 23mins, Fetcho & Kaminski talk SHoax and the laughably untenable position taken by DS, KJ, MCP & MG; with Fetcho even saying he scratched his head to the point of bleeding, confounded by DS's position on SHoax. They note the oddity of these 4 prominent alt-media voices, so vehemently trying to prop up djooz' official SHoax story...
Latest updates at "Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story" begin here:
http://tinyurl.com/ptlqw8f
April 2, 2014 at 12:07 AM
Also note several new replies in the "Spingola Speaks 2014.03.30" comments", incl me spanking the S.Hoax Shill-A-Thon cabal. :cool:
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Horn,
I'm not playing dumb here, because I think I've heard something about the drug thing and Sandy Hook elsewhere - but I really can't see the relevance. I have had more than one very heartbreaking situations in my own family with prescription drugs, and, I am always on the lookout for a anything exposing the horrendous agenda by these drug pushers, but, I can't for the life of me see how this fits into the Sandy Hook thing - please explain it, if you don't mind, in terms a dummy like me can understand. They claim a teenager broke into a grade school and shot up a whole bunch of students and teachers - but they have no video of anybody crashing through the front door - that right there makes me suspect they are hiding something and I can't swallow that they didn't have a security camera recording people that come and go from the front door. It is like the confiscation of all videos around the pentagon on 9/11 - not credible that a video showing what happen isn't available. But how does the evil agenda of prescription drugs fit into this Sandy Hook scenario and what are they hiding from us and WHY?
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Its a repetitive theme that is easily sold.
http://www.infowars.com/fanapt-hoax-...nd-ssri-drugs/
I think most that buy it assume that children were actually murdered there, though has that even been proven as a fact though?
To any of them that do specifically in Sandy Hook's case, a direct question with regards to gun rights should clear up whether or not they truly are jumping then riding the shark.
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PatColo
First & only comment there ^ atm is from me; check the link to see if mami's censors it:
DOH! While mami's hasn't (YET) censored my comment ref'd in #92 above; they DID just censor the following comment, formerly the 5th comment in this thread:
Pat Colo said...
"Too much fluoride and cognitive dissonance." ---> Too much
Delphi-Marinated-Sunstein™ in the belly, with the 26 Rules for dessert, lol.
http://www.911truth.org/newcm/twenty...disinformation
The 26th Rule, you ask? It's djooz' #1 favorite of all: the trusty
Flip-The-Script-And-Project gambit:
http://tinyurl.com/kx83ghs
Speaking of same; zap: RE your "obsession" obsession, following is the meaning of "obsession":
List of Deanna's Joo-SHoax-Story re-bunking shows:
Jan 15: DS's 1st SHoax show, solo.
Jan 21: DS's 2nd SHoax show, solo.
Jan 23: DS's 3rd SHoax show, solo.
Jan 25: DS's 4th SHoax show, guest was fellow-advocate of the Joo SHoax story KJohnson.
Feb 11: DS's 5th SHoax show, solo.
Feb 18: DS's 6th SHoax show, solo.
Feb 20: DS's 7th SHoax show, solo.
Mar 4: DS's 8th SHoax show, the disgraceful Halbig "interview" reviewed at http://tinyurl.com/odkvvod
Mar 9: DS's 9th SHoax show, solo 1st hour.
Mar 30: DS's 10th SHoax show, guests KJohnson & Wade.
Mar 31: DS's 11th SHoax 'appearance', was Sanshilli's guest, topic ~90% SHoax.
Apr 1: DS's 12th SHoax show, guest Wade.
OBSESSION ^
But you Deanna/Joo-SHoax-Story fanboys & girls here don't want to see it in yourselves; you prefer to try to
Flip-The-Script-And-Project, ad-hom'ing your own affliction towards myself and other S.Hoax critics.
http://www.boredportal.com/files/pic..._Jew-Jitsu.jpg
I was one of Deanna's biggest fanboys; her credibility-capital was A-1+. But that has collapsed beginning with her Jan 15 show, and it's only grown more shrill & disturbing since.
Incidentally, a pdf of MCP/CIA's "False Flags" book, which Deanna claims convinced her on SHoax (though NOT Boston, ?!), is linked at the end of this article:
http://ajmacdonaldjr.wordpress.com/2...-collins-piper
April 2, 2014 at 6:27 AM
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Also, mami's censored my (formerly) 28th reply from this thread... while the ad-homs against me comments from the Joo-SHoax-Story-Huggerhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 trolls remain. Comment was (the url I pointed zap to will just land at the top of the page now, since the exact comment it pointed to, reprinted in my #95 above, is now censored) :
Pat Colo said...
zap: I expect you'll see it but just in case,
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/...76813991003237
1776: your silly ad-hom barrage hasn't made the 16 questions go anywhere... ;)
And your
"...but to claim everything is a hoax..." bit is a fun looking Straw Man; you gonna b/f it first before beating the Straw out of it? Hey, wear yourself out man, lol.
Beep: I repeat:
"Why did I already intuit that you'd dodge/play-dumb on the question? I want to hear your SOURCE for your claim that "Smallstorm has repudiated [Halbig and] his "16 questions". " It's the "16 questions" part I want sourced, Beep... duh! Let's all watch how artfully Beep dodges it this time..."
^ That.
April 2, 2014 at 7:01 AM
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Originally Posted by
Jerrylynnb
Horn,
I'm not playing dumb here, because I think I've heard something about the drug thing and Sandy Hook elsewhere - but I really can't see the relevance. [...]
From Prof Tracy:
Gist is, New Yorker propaganda article alleging to have interviewed Peter Lanza, notes how the imaginary Adam wasn't taking his meds... leaving it to appear his meds would have prevented the make-believe tragedy. Solution? Mandatory mental health screening, which big pharma will be licking their chops over! :(
Keeping on topic with this thread; you'll read in the OP, Delphi-Deanna (Sunstein-Spingola?o)(~) absurdly suggested that the whole S.Hoax truth movement may really just be a big "Sunstein Op", to take scrutiny off of big pharma's deadly drugs... coz you see, no one really died at S.Hoax... or some shit like that? :|~
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Here's Spingola's comment on to her latest Sandy Hook show with Wade (posted here: http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/...fp-412014.html). Apparently, she seems to feel that those of us who see Sandy Hook as a HOAX owe an apology for "deliberate deceptions."
Deanna said...
Pat Colo, MCP's book did not convince me of anything regarding Sandy Hook. Looking at the evidence convinced me. During the time frame that you cite, 12 programs on Sandy Hook out of 63 hardly constitutes an obsession. Now if you wish to discuss obsessions, let's talk about your obsession/job to discredit me. I have never visited the web site that you designed to bash me as I assume it is all about character assassination and has nothing to do with the real SH issues. As for my other critics who used to like my work but now question it because they disagree with my position on SH, I must ask, have you done any real research or have you relied on Smallstorm, Fetzer, Halbig and Alex Jones for your views. Perhaps you are just following the example of your great leader, Fetzer, who, in his recent email, is distancing himself from Smallstorm just because she has questions about the very notable questioner, Wolfgang W. Halbig, whose questions have been repeatedly answered. Suddenly, it seems that she has lost all validity with Fetzer. I have reiterated my reasons for looking at SH here: http://www.spingola.com/Background.html As far as people feeling sorry for Halbig because of my hard questions - he knew exactly what he was doing when he accepted my invitation and played his cards to look like the poor little victim. Listening to that program requires independent thinking. On the other hand, I had no idea what I was getting into when I accepted Santilli's invitation but I am a big girl and am not going to cry about it. Regarding SH, to the critics, I say, what if it were one of your children that was murdered in a mass shooting? Would you like to be accused of being an actor? I am always going to side with the children. I have always said that if I find out that it was a hoax, I will apologize. I doubt that we will ever see the hoaxers apologize for all of the deliberate deceptions they have used to convince many people of their views and the disreputable opinions that they have given the entire movement.
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Originally Posted by
Amanda
Apparently, she seems to feel that those of us who see Sandy Hook as a HOAX owe an apology for "deliberate deceptions."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LcFOyIe_jc
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What I find disturbing (sp) is the joy some get maybe warping facts and reality or what could be constructed as fact from nothing or conjure.
Must be a bummer to live life with that way. Not everything is wacko.
Crap but have fun! Some things done considering the background will never be public for the family's that do grieve and still have to carry on with life.
Then there are the ones that love picking at scabs!
Be proud!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Forum Runner
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Jerrylynnb, I listened to Delphi-Deanna's appearance on the Pete Santilli show. For those who missed it, it's the first 23 mins of this MP3; but then the SHoax topic spills into the first several minutes of the next guest's appearance beginning at the bottom of the hour. I would call it must-listening, if you're following along with this saga. Santilli's was the first Deanna interview I've heard who's challenged her on her complete blind faith & reliance on djooz.gov's "official reports" & "news" stories, in supporting her proclaimed S.Hoax beliefs. Deanna gave some quite absurd "responses", lol. Following, I will be transcribing key bits which indicate where Delphi's head is at.
55s: PS: Still,
you can't say with absolute certainty that you know what happened with Sandy Hook, right?
1:00 DS:
Well, yes, you CAN say exactly what happened, because, they have come out with all the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, and I have dug through them, other people have dug through them, [...]. The hoaxers would have you believe that
THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL LIARS. OR ACTORS, YES!! IS THAT RIDICULOUS OR WHAT?!? EVEN A CHILD COULD SEE IT!!
2:20 PS: So, you've said you read the
reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, and, I'm not even going by the conspiracy theories.
How do we know that we're to trust those reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018? Can we?
2:33 DS:
I think that, yes, I think you can.
4:20 DS: There was a sign, says "EVERYONE MUST CHECK IN HERE". Well that sign in Sofia's video,
she implies that that was there on the morning of December 14th. It was not. It was not there on Friday; it was not there on Saturday; it WAS there on TUESDAY, when Megan Kelly interviewed Rosen, Gene Rosen. And, everything was back to normal, relatively back to normal. Schools had resumed, and you could see a bus drive by.
6:40 DS:
There are mistakes in the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, because human beings created the
reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018.
6:43 PS: Human beings, and
human beings make intentional errors sometimes too, so we have to also consider the other side of the coin. Yeah, that isn't the do all end all be all;
the sources of information we have to conduct our research, unfortunately I think are kind of tainted as well.
7:00 DS:
Ah, I disagree with respect to these. These are just the, the officers that were there; they talk about what they saw.
7:25 PS: Wolfgang Halbig, is he part of that whole psyop?
7:30 DS:
Well, of course, of course.
8:15 DS: And!
The SUITE! He said he had a SUITE! At 5703 Red Buck Lake Road.
AH, NO, it was just a MAILBOX at the UPS Store!
8:55 PS: Deanna, I'm going to be honest with you.
Don't be so trusting of those reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018that are put out there. Because there WAS a conspiracy to do something, we don't know what it is, ...
9:25 DS: The BIG ISSUE, is the psychiatric drug industry, which is very big in Connecticut. [...]
I think this whole operation, might be damage control for the psychiatric drug industry, which makes billions and billions of dollars each year.
So, Deanna's biggest problem evident from the Santilli show snips I've transcribed above, remains her near-total reliance upon THE REPORTShttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, committing the Fallacy: Appeal to Authority:
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Originally Posted by
PatColo
9:25 DS: The BIG ISSUE, is the psychiatric drug industry, which is very big in Connecticut. [...]
I think this whole operation, might be damage control for the psychiatric drug industry, which makes billions and billions of dollars each year.
Apparently those drugs can allow a skinny teenage to wield 4 completely different weapons simultaneously with a kill ratio higher than any navy seal.
The fact that no child was left behind injured should be enough to blow her lid away.
The official story is complete absurdity.
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PatColo, I missed that about "even a child could see it..." - you got a sharp ear to catch that. That is a revealing video compilation (no tears but top-notch "acting" - enough to make me wonder even).
I think you have pretty much nailed Deanna on this, but, she is non-repentant, and even insulting, in her reactions (see Amanda's post #98 on page 10 of this thread). She seems to have dug herself in too deep now for her to find her way back to the old Deanna we were so impressed with for the past two years.
Could she have been blinded by the idea that *children* were slaughtered? So that she would have felt callous about "children being at risk" were she to have questioned the truthfulness too closely, and considered the possibility of it being all, or in part, a hoax? Speculation, yes, but I am struggling for an answer as to what happened to Deanna - dangit! She hosted some great interviews and I'm gonna' miss those.
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Horn,
This drug slant on Sandy Hook has me very perplexed. I imagine a group of "handlers" sitting in a room somewhere concocting a scheme to get americans to go along with forcing everyone to be psychiatric tested and maybe required to enter drug therapy so as to prevent MASS SHOOTINGS OF CHILDREN by those who need these drugs but are not detected due to lack of screening.
Whoever would dream up such a scheme, and would come up with the Sandy Hook scenario for its implementation , would have to think that we the public are as dumb as rocks! They can't think we are that stupid! Can they? To underestimate the american public to that extent tells me that those bastards are so arrogant, and have such a really low opinion of the relative gullibility of we the public, that it offends me to the bone marrow.
If the Sandy Hook believers are contending that such a group existed, and, promulgated Sandy Hook as per that sort of a plan (testing and drug therapy to prevent mass shooting of children), then, somebody really does need psychiatric help.
Tell me this ain't so, please! Or am I really living in an asylum, where the orderlies and doctors are even more insane than the patients!
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Originally Posted by
Jerrylynnb
Horn,
This drug slant on Sandy Hook has me very perplexed. I imagine a group of "handlers" sitting in a room somewhere concocting a scheme to get americans to go along with forcing everyone to be psychiatric tested and maybe required to enter drug therapy so as to prevent MASS SHOOTINGS OF CHILDREN by those who need these drugs but are not detected due to lack of screening.
There's probably already at least one member out of every 10 households on some type of mood or behavior modification drugs in U.S., (Guess) Only sweeping legislation that removes weapons from those households would be needed.
Mass screenings for mental faculty would come naturally out of that, as its already a major part of gun legislation and permit in much the rest of the world.
Once every couple years you need to be mentally screened or have employment in the armed security field to gain weapons permit in much of the world, No I don't agree with it as it turns the second amendment into a privilege not a right.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Horn
There's probably already at least one member out of every 10 households on some type of mood or behavior modification drugs in U.S., (Guess) Only sweeping legislation that removes weapons from those households would be needed.
Mass screenings for mental faculty would come naturally out of that, as its already a major part of gun legislation and permit in much the rest of the world.
Once every couple years you need to be mentally screened or have employment in the armed security field to gain weapons permit in much of the world, No I don't agree with it as it turns the second amendment into a privilege not a right.
think the numbers are higher. Tho one would need to see what is in the medicine box,
From an senioldfartintraining that only takes aspirin every night never had any scripts nor needed them. And I think I maybe a rare one, most I do know have to take handfuls of med's everyday. Tho my status may change someday, aspirin is it.
Many people using physio drugs to cope, with real and imagined shit.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
PatColo
4:20 DS: There was a sign, says "EVERYONE MUST CHECK IN HERE". Well that sign in Sofia's video,
she implies that that was there on the morning of December 14th. It was not. It was not there on Friday; it was not there on Saturday; it WAS there on TUESDAY, when Megan Kelly interviewed Rosen, Gene Rosen. And, everything was back to normal, relatively back to normal. Schools had resumed, and you could see a bus drive by.
Can anyone make sense of this Rosen/sign was Tues Dec 18th assertion? It just came up at Fetzer's blog comments,
Quote:
- Pat ColoApril 10, 2014 at 7:15 PM
- I've been trying to make sense of this question too. Why would the sign be there on the following TUESDAY? WHO, and WHY, would they be soliciting check-ins 4 days later? Delphi-Deanna also tries to make hay of (her assertion that) the sign/Rosen-video took place the following Tuesday, too:
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthre...l=1#post702049
But again, WHY TUESDAY? Note the light blue plaid shirt Rosen is wearing in the pic at the link above. Compare with the shirt(s) he's seen wearing under his blue down-feather jacket in a
http://images.google.com
^ google image search for "Gene Rosen Sandy Hook". How do we know which shirt is from which day?
I'd guess if FAUX News played that video the following Tues Dec 18, that is was just a replay of the video of what took place Fri Dec 14, as they were "following the (pretend) story", getting viewers up to speed on events, etc. Rosen, the sign, the commotion behind him, the "school bus driving by" as Delphi noted above... makes no sense that it would've taken place Dec 18. Makes perfect sense that it was Dec 14.
The archive.org video doesn't play for me, only stalls with the circular spinning arrow over the play console.
says it all as far as my 'tude on the question! Granted though, I was unable to watch the archive.org FAUX News video, which may or may not clear up the question.
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I found this one on YT; Kelly's intro and the content suggest it's days later. Esp near the end Gene's pedophilic tendencies are really on display... also says the "darkness into the light" meme a couple times; recall Sofia's video discussed this & it's occult significance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2PCg_ZF1gU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2PCg_ZF1gU
I saw a YT suggesting Gene was in front of a green-screen for that "interview"; I wasn't too impressed with it though! The sunshine/shadow points don't work coz Gene was presumably next to something which fully shaded him. And the supposed irregularities about his head's border vs the background are too ambiguous in a video which is low res anyways. The ACooper's disappearing nose clip was much clearer to see. Here 'tis, judge for yourself,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jViclRKcM7A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jViclRKcM7A
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Cross-posting the following, taken from the main S.Hoax thread, into this Spingola/Shark thread; coz although the official AFP description doesn't say it, Delphi-Deanna is also on with host KJohnson and guest Wade for the 2 hour podcast.
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I "stomached" 10 mins and that's all I could take, and I put something else on. 10 mins was enough for KJ to screech about skeptics as Sunstein disinfo agents, exonerating mass-murderer Lanza, only a matter of time before one of these skeptics shoots a victim's family member, yada, yada, yada. Sunstein. With 1hr 50mins to go, and guest CW "JOO-S.HOAX-REPORTShttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018" Wade hadn't even been introduced yet; I said no way Jose!
http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/s...0%28220%29.gifETA: I was going to give the MP3 the skipping ahead & spot checking treatment. Description doesn't say, but Delphi-Deanna is on the show too. I gave that a few mins in the 20+ min area, and it's the 3 shills circle-jerking over how Wade beat Halbig in the Apr 8 debate so bad, Halbig "doesn't want you to read the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018" ;D lol, oh and we're not ad-hom'ing Halbig (ad-hom, ad-hom, ad-hom). It's just their usual Flip the Script & Project dance.
I spot checked through the 2nd hour, to check if they took callers as the show description promises they would.... NOPE. :( I expect the line will be, "well there were no callers!" lol. Delphi claimed this of their first 3-way Shill-A-Thon two Sundays ago; but it was surely just coincidental that they didn't finish re-bunking the last of Halbig's 16 Q's until the very end of the 3rd hour!
I did hear a great line @ 1h 39m; KJ says ACooper had Prof Tracy on so that Cooper could turn CNN viewers on to Tracy's blog LOL, Delphi coohed "Oh absolutely!"; then he's on about how Cooper's ex-CIA yada yada, basically trying to puff up their shilly "S.Hoax skepticism is a Sunstein op" Flip the Script & Project disinfo-theory...
KJ ends the show with this precious declaration: "And yes, these people are predators ladies & gentlemen! These people are preying on the weak, on the, they're exploiting this tragedy for their own, for their own purposes, their own selfish purposes!" :eek: << I post that coz it looks more like a BAGELhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, than a smiley!
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Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story
If you know about Dr. Judy Wood's behavior in relationship to Santilli radio shows and how Spingola seems one of the charter members of the Wood cult, then you have to know that this whole show with Spingola ostensibly being asked hardball questions by Santilli was pure theater. Spingola had some nonsense statements about SH that she was to get out again, so the questions Santilli asked were designed to fit Spingola's nonsense statements.
Wood controls Santilli and Spingola. Rest assured that what Spingola is pushing is what Dr. Wood is secretly pushing as well. And this "program" regarding who never to identify as being a major part of the perp team extends retroactively to 9-11 for Wood. And just as an aside, if the FBI controls Santilli (and I think it does), then the FBI controls Wood as well.
Spingola is a bit further down the food chain and just seems to do whatever her Worshipful Mistress arranges for her.
Do not think that Spingola is thinking and acting on her own. This jumping the shark by Spingola marks Spingola's permanent departure from being an independent self directed person with her own sincerely held opinions.
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^ I can't say I agree with your FBI/Woods/ShamShilli/Delphi theory; mostly coz I've largely steered clear of the various, contrived "chasing our tails arguing over the technicals of HOW 911 was done" diversions inside the TM. We know it was a zion.gov job; that ought to be our message to the world.
As to ShamShilli's questions "designed to fit Sunstein-Spingola's nonsense statements"; I'd just remind that a proper agent "deep inside" a given "movement", needs to do 90+ percent cred-building. Consider, Agent ShamShilli is presently on location near Bundy's NV ranch, reporting the twoof! And, low-level agents aren't exactly in cahoots with one another; they're kept compartmentalized from one another. Consider Agent Pied Piper's words describing himself and many like him:
"[...] You know, someone can be an AGENT, working for somebody or some intelligence agency, or some force, and genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel. But they may still have another AGENDA. Because even some of these intelligence agencies have, how can I put this; you know, the left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing. [...]"
So I'd guess ShamShilli's questions of Delphi in their Mar 31 interview were sincere, under the 90+ percent cred-building banner. Delphi herself said of the ShamShilli interview, "On the other hand, I had no idea what I was getting into when I accepted Santilli's invitation but I am a big girl and am not going to cry about it. "
Also consider 'How the Fake Truth Movement Operates - a Thumbnail Sketch' (esp Protocol IV). :cool:
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"...I've largely steered clear of the various, contrived "chasing our tails arguing over the technicals of HOW 911 was done" diversions inside the TM. We know it was a zion.gov job; that ought to be our message to the world. "
The "arguing over the technicals" makes up about 99 percent of the TM. I do not argue over the technicals but I observe how different factions glom on to certain "technicals" and certain bits of purported "evidence" and then build from there. This is extremely valuable information in studying any false flag type event. (By the way, I use "false flag type event" to cover all these government psyops including the Sandy Hook debacle, and the distinction in the strict definitions of the terms is irrelevant in this case, though definitions are important in others.)
Well, first of all, I realize that at a certain point, it is futile to argue over the technicals, but to me the technicals tells us a whole lot about who did it, a whole lot. Mainly what we have been able to do is study the different factions in the TM and their "theories" and rule them out, one by one, by strictly looking at what is physically possible and what is physically impossible. It was very important to establish early on exactly what the official story was and then, for example, show that it is aerodynamically impossible for a Big Boeing to travel at 500 miles at low altitude, and Newton's Third Law making it physcically impossible for said plane to meld into a steel building effortlessly. That gets us a giant step forward in showing that there were no Islamic hijackers and all of that planes business and all of our unjust wars and "war on terrorism" was a giant hoax and gives us a much clearer picture and wider field of the people who were the real perps. I just like to focus on naming names, naming the perps, and while they all are in some sense zionist perps, they may not be zionists at all in their own eyes.
Also, by observing Dr. Steven Jones faction and how it took over 99 percent of the TM from late 2004 and how it evolved over the years and where it is now, we get a very clear picture of how the perps run these ops, and that is always valuable information.
By the way, from the beginning I did not believe or trust Dr. Steven Jones and I made a strong direction connection of Dr. Jones with the "zion.gov" perps. No one else seemed to do that, but I did. All of the writers for GlobalResearch.ca, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, TUT gang, and Christopher Bollyn e. al. all go along with Dr. Jones theory even though some of these people claim to recognize the zion.gov perps did it. So some of the strongest outspoken people against the zion.gov gang are totally fooled and can't see through Dr. Steven Jones, who is 100 percent government issue. (Also some of the top theorists who claim to be anti-Jones in their ideas are on the same team with Jones, and they probably know they are in on it. It is the Hegelian dialectic at work.)
I will say more about your disagreement with my theory later but it is important in any murder crime investigation to study how the victim was killed, that is, with what weapon. And if we also discover that the victim(s) are very atypical and non-entities in some cases, then that also not only serves to further kill the official story, but it tells us much much more about how our murderers work. Know your enemy is an essential tenet in finding or getting much closer to the whole truth.
The "compartmentalization" thing is true in a limited sense but it only goes so far. It has more to do with people individually wittingly or unwittingly submitting to Orwellian mind control, throwing their consciences out the window, and flipping the doublethink switch ON in their minds Many people do not rise in the zion.gov if they are morally and psychologically unable to flip that switch ON.
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Originally Posted by
Amanda
Here's Spingola's comment on to her latest Sandy Hook show with Wade (posted here:
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/...fp-412014.html). Apparently, she seems to feel that those of us who see Sandy Hook as a HOAX owe an apology for "deliberate deceptions."
Deanna said...
Pat Colo, MCP's book did not convince me of anything regarding Sandy Hook. Looking at the evidence convinced me. During the time frame that you cite, 12 programs on Sandy Hook out of 63 hardly constitutes an obsession. Now if you wish to discuss obsessions, let's talk about your obsession/job to discredit me. I have never visited the web site that you designed to bash me as I assume it is all about character assassination and has nothing to do with the real SH issues. As for my other critics who used to like my work but now question it because they disagree with my position on SH, I must ask, have you done any real research or have you relied on Smallstorm, Fetzer, Halbig and Alex Jones for your views. Perhaps you are just following the example of your great leader, Fetzer, who, in his recent email, is distancing himself from Smallstorm just because she has questions about the very notable questioner, Wolfgang W. Halbig, whose questions have been repeatedly answered. Suddenly, it seems that she has lost all validity with Fetzer. I have reiterated my reasons for looking at SH here: http://www.spingola.com/Background.html As far as people feeling sorry for Halbig because of my hard questions - he knew exactly what he was doing when he accepted my invitation and played his cards to look like the poor little victim. Listening to that program requires independent thinking. On the other hand, I had no idea what I was getting into when I accepted Santilli's invitation but I am a big girl and am not going to cry about it. Regarding SH, to the critics, I say, what if it were one of your children that was murdered in a mass shooting? Would you like to be accused of being an actor? I am always going to side with the children. I have always said that if I find out that it was a hoax, I will apologize. I doubt that we will ever see the hoaxers apologize for all of the deliberate deceptions they have used to convince many people of their views and the disreputable opinions that they have given the entire movement.
As I formerly replied to Delphi-Deanna in the mami's comment thread where her Apr 3rd comment above appears, I would reply to her comment "later"... but mami's mod "zapopper" promptly deleted/censored that comment by me. It's been more than easy to "kick the can down the road" in replying; as her comment above is so vitriolic & shrill, that it's emotionally draining spending the time properly addressing all its fallacies.
So I'll re-paste Delphi's comment below, adding a few paragraph breaks for better readability. And I'll reply in BLUE/ITALIC immediately following those items where I have something to say.
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Deanna said...
Pat Colo, MCP's book did not convince me of anything regarding Sandy Hook. Looking at the evidence convinced me. From all I've heard of her making her case, "the evidence" she gives the greatest weight to, are the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" .http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018 Tell us Deanna, what's your take on the Obama administration making an unusual $2.5 million payout to Connecticut law enforcement and emergency response agencies for their participation in the December 14, 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School event? This payment took place in late Aug '13, about 4 months BEFORE the release of your prized Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018. Aren't the CT law & emergency services just DOING THEIR JOBS through the S.Hoax "event", for which they already make agreeable salaries?? Might such an "unusual payment" have tainted the integrity of your still pending "REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018?? Or perhaps you view the payment as actually *better ensuring* high integrity in the pending "REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, accounting for your otherwise bizarre answers to Santilli's questions? :(??
During the time frame that you cite, 12 programs on Sandy Hook out of 63 hardly constitutes an obsession. Deanna ref's my reply 95 above, which formerly appeared in that mami's thread, but it was (also) deleted/censored by a mami's mod (guessing zapopper). Readers can judge the "obsession level" of Deanna's flurry of Official-JOO-S.Hoax-Story re-bunking shows for themselves. Now if you wish to discuss obsessions, let's talk about your obsession/job to discredit me. Deconstructing the arguments which Deanna puts forth, is quite different from "discrediting her". She's only perhaps "discredited" in the eyes of those for whom my reasoning better withstands scrutiny, than does hers. I detect Deanna posturing herself as the VICTIM™ again. I have never visited the web site that you designed [uuum, NO...] to bash me as I assume it is all about character assassination and has nothing to do with the real SH issues. "...all about character assassination..." lol, me thinks the wannabe VICTIM™ doth protest too much!
As for my other critics who used to like my work but now question it because they disagree with my position on SH, I must ask, have you done any real research or have you relied on Smallstorm, Fetzer, Halbig and Alex Jones for your views. < Asks the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-Story re-bunker whose chosen "evidence" lies almost entirely in the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, and also with the occasional JOO YORK TIMES article and such. Oh, and MCP/CIA's "False Flags" book-- where Deanna agrees with the book's assertions of S.Hoax being "real"; while she awkwardly maintains that the Boston charade was an obvious hoax with crisis actors, contrary to that same book's Boston assertions. Deanna's theory is that Boston was staged by TPTB, to take the public's attention off S.Hoax. :|~
Perhaps you are just following the example of your great leader, Fetzer, who, in his recent email, is distancing himself from Smallstorm just because she has questions about the very notable questioner, Wolfgang W. Halbig, whose questions have been repeatedly answered. Wolfgang's "answers" are all plainly spelled out in the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, right? Suddenly, it seems that she has lost all validity with Fetzer. I have reiterated my reasons for looking at SH here: http://www.spingola.com/Background.html
As far as people feeling sorry for Halbig because of my hard questions - he knew exactly what he was doing when he accepted my invitation and played his cards to look like the poor little victim. Uh oh, I detect some JEALOUSY here! Listening to that program requires independent thinking. On the other hand, I had no idea what I was getting into when I accepted Santilli's invitation but I am a big girl and am not going to cry about it. ?!?! Bizarre statement. Nearly as bizarre as Deanna's answers to Sanitlli's questions about her blind faith in the Official-JOO-S.Hoax-"REPORTS" http://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018.
Regarding SH, to the critics, I say, what if it were one of your children that was murdered in a mass shooting? Would you like to be accused of being an actor? Personally I'd expect to remain at home mourning quietly & privately, NOT appearing glowingly on all the joozmedia propaganda organs. YMMV, however. I am always going to side with the children. Deanna and Obama both, then...
I have always said that if I find out that it was a hoax, I will apologize. I anticipate Deanna will only "change her mind" and conclude SH was a hoax, when all the law, emergency, crisis-actor and joozmedia participants unanimously admit their wrongdoing, return all their "unusual taxpayer-coerced payments" and voluntary public pity donations, and apologize to the world. I won't be holding my breath! I doubt that we will ever see the hoaxers apologize for all of the deliberate deceptions they have used to convince many people of their views and the disreputable opinions that they have given the entire movement. As I said in my intro above, vitriolic & shrill. Shame on Deanna!!
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Pat Colo
I addressed a couple of points to your posting saying you cannot agree with my comment about Santilli and Wood being FBI (or of course higher up the food chain).
Now I will address a couple of other points of yours.
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“. We know it was a zion.gov job; that ought to be our message to the world. “
We may “know” is was a zion.gov job but we need to SHOW in every way we can that it was. We need to name names and show all connections, connections blatant and subtle.
It is not good argumentation to say something like ‘since our whole government is zion controlled, then we can automatically know that Sandy Hook (or 9-11 et al.) were zion.gov.
As far as …
“that ought to be our message to the world.”
I do not belong to any group, never have, and am not part of your pronoun “our.” I am not interested in “unity” or “our unified message to the world.” I am interested in the TRUTH wherever we may find it. Truth is imperfect in this world but we are commanded by our Creator to have a deep love of the truth and to seek it all costs. The amount of fear we each have, fear for our jobs, our families, our lives, always compromises the degree of truth we will find and show in this world.
Pointing to zion.gov in just about every part of our geopolical system takes great care and intelligence. The Zios know full well how to get us or make us expose them in ways that are careless and unintelligent and can be used against us. In my life, I have found that seeking the truth no matter where it will lead is the best way to avoid the the many traps in my path, traps caused by my own fallen human nature, and traps laid there by the zios.
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“I'd just remind that a proper agent "deep inside" a given "movement", needs to do 90+ percent cred-building. Consider, Agent ShamShilli is presently on location near Bundy's NV ranch, reporting the twoof! “
Yes, it is true that agents need to spend time “cred building”, but for Santilli, it is not simply agent building cred. He was knocked for a serious loop by Anonymous discovering he is a paid FBI agent, so Santilli is working on rebuilding or re-establishing his credibility from the ground up. I never thought he had much credibility or notoriety or renown to begin with and I never heard of him until Dr. Fetzer wrote about Santilli interview of Dr. Morgan Reynolds (Dr. Judy Woods close associate).
I find it hard to limiting myself to the Sham and Shill descriptors of Santilli. How about something like
Sham ShillSleazy (SSS)
We must highlight his sleaze or con-man character as he is probably the ChiefSleaze, though largely unknown, among all the alternative internet radio show hosts. SSS is to alternative “truth” radio as Cyrus Scofield is to Christianity.
I only listened to one show of his, the one where he interviewed Dr. Morgan Reynolds and it was just too easy to see that guy for the total huckster that he is. I am a little slow in identifying other con artists in the “TM” but I am getting much better.
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“low-level agents aren't exactly in cahoots with one another; they're kept compartmentalized from one another.”
I touched on the cmpartmentalization matter in my previous reply to you, but will say a bit more here.
Some agents are in cahoots with each other and some are not.
Dr. Judy Wood has a long history with Santilli and Santilli shows, when it started I do not know. I also do not know when Santilli became a paid agent of the FBI. I think Dr. Wood just came on board with Santilli show matters about one year before Anonymous and Susan Posel and Vinny Eastwood blew their story with strong proof of Santilli being FBI.
Dr. Wood is a smart, sly, calculating person who knows how to get her clutches into a person. It would be especially easy with a no-conscience, ego maniac money grubber flim-flam artist like Santilli. As I said, Dr. Wood is smart and she knows full well Santilli is FBI and she is fine with that. Santilli was probably ordered by the FBI to support and cheer for Dr. Wood’s Directed Energy Weapons (DEW) 9-11 theory, and Dr. Wood is probably directed by “the FBI” to use Santilli’s radio show to promote herself and whatever ideas that go with her DEWs Theory diversions and distractions and prestidigitations the the 9-11 “Truth Movement.”
(Note, I have always detested referring to those diverse people and groups seeking truth about 9-11 and so many other major issues as being in a “movement.” However, I realize, for shorthand purposes in posting on the web, one has to employ the term. You can see how “the movement” is perfect to be used by the anti-truthers like Santilli, Wood, Sunstein, Spingola, Piper etc. You see all these disgusting people all of sudden showing all this recognition and concern about “the truth movement.” Collectiving the very diverse “TM” people is part of the “unity” manipulation. People who do their best to stay out of groups and movements and seek the truth will be persecuted and ostracized by all the groupies and movement people.
Also please note that when I say “is FBI” I naturally mean the powers that be in the federal Zio apparatus or the upper echelons of the evildoer pyramid and not specifically the FBI agency. The FBI are the grunts in the hierarchy of evil.
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As for Michael Piper’s words…
“someone can be an AGENT, working for somebody or some intelligence agency, or some force, and genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel. But they may still have another AGENDA. Because even some of these intelligence agencies have, how can I put this; you know, the left hand doesn't always know what the right hand is doing. [...]" “
Of course there is some truth in this. You would not expect a 30 plus year full time writer for AFP and Liberty Lobby to throw out a sloppy argument with no truth in it.
But truth is some of the “agents” are on the same whole agenda while appearing for all the world to be at odds with each other. It’s the old “fake fights” and “fake firings” play acting routines.
I have observed many instances where I think Zion.gov gives us a shill who APPEARS to be “genuinely be anti-zionist, or genuinely be a critic of Israel”
When the truth is the shill is on the direct payroll of the ADL or AIPAC or black ops federal budgets.
Don’t you see how USEABLE it is to the Zios to have the controlled opposition agencies, businesses, newspapers, magazines, radio networks, and individual show hosts and writers in their pocket?
Some people think the main “pocket” belongs to the “globalists, the NOW, etc., but I more and more see that the Zio component is the common denominator at the top, which is really the ultimate bottom of Satanic hellish evil.
Pat Colo said…
“So I'd guess ShamShilli's questions of Delphi in their Mar 31 interview were sincere, under the 90+ percent cred-building banner. “
No, sincerity is simply not in Mr. Sleaze and neither is the quality of sincerity in Dr. Wood. Dr. Wood can feign sincerity as can Spingola, in their individual ways within their very serious and similar psychological pathologies.
In other words, Santilli, Wood and Spingola, because of their perfect personality and character flaws. Are all splendid actors and deceivers.
I am going to post again my comment that prompted your response that I am herewith responding to.
Dachsie Comment # 110
“If you know about Dr. Judy Wood's behavior in relationship to Santilli radio shows and how Spingola seems one of the charter members of the Wood cult, then you have to know that this whole show with Spingola ostensibly being asked hardball questions by Santilli was pure theater. Spingola had some nonsense statements about SH that she was to get out again, so the questions Santilli asked were designed to fit Spingola's nonsense statements.
Wood controls Santilli and Spingola. Rest assured that what Spingola is pushing is what Dr. Wood is secretly pushing as well. And this "program" regarding who never to identify as being a major part of the perp team extends retroactively to 9-11 for Wood. And just as an aside, if the FBI controls Santilli (and I think it does), then the FBI controls Wood as well.
Spingola is a bit further down the food chain and just seems to do whatever her Worshipful Mistress arranges for her.
Do not think that Spingola is thinking and acting on her own. This jumping the shark by Spingola marks Spingola's permanent departure from being an independent self directed person with her own sincerely held opinions. “
I stand by my comment more than ever now that I have read the Spingola quote you did in PatColo Comment #113.
In Comment # 113 showing Spingola quotes…
Spingola is showing strong paranoid ideations (same as Dr. Wood) and
Is demonstrating many psychological defense mechanisms, especially Projection, where one accuses others of what oneself is guilty of.
(Dr. Wood is able to hide her character flaws and personality disorders much better than Spingola because of her intelligence level. Santilli is just your common street hustler who is an open (comic) book.)
Also note particularly how Spingola touches on all the major concepts I posted about her in my Comment # 110.
All this focusing on what Spingola deems to be “evidence” is straight out of the Judy Wood playbook and I mean straight out of.
Spingola has decided to play the government’s game of “it’s FOR THE CHILDREN” and that ploy is as one of the oldest manipulations in the book.
Also Dr. Wood has probably trained Spingola and how saying you are always on the side of the children is a safe, sure fire way to have yourself always come out smelling like a rose.
I could go on but won’t.
I want to focus on my main idea that
Judy Wood and company are FBI, just like Santilli.
(Spingola is a second-string player and probably wants out of the game and probably soon will lose her RBN show, and I say do not pay much attention to her.)
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Yes, its never a good idea to exclude anyone imo when the search for truth is concerned.
It is the drawn conclusion to truths that is decided upon by the recipient in any case, anyways.
Don't fret over drawn conclusions (from your piers even) when the course becomes clear for action it will be clear as an azure and summer sky, and you will either be on your own there, or someone beside you.
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Amanda
Spingola also did a show w/Dave McGowan on the Boston marathon bombing being a hoax, and, if I recall correctly, she asked him if he had had a chance to look at Sandy Hook (with the implication being that that was a hoax as well).
I haven't had a chance to listen to this 2 hr Delphi/McGowan/AFP podcast; will be curious if SHoax comes up. I predict not, and don't rule out that it's even a pre-agreement for DMcGowan coming on the show (principally to give an infomercial for his new book) that SHoax not be discussed? I see nothing at McGowan's site discussing SHoax:
http://www.google.com/search?q="Sandy+Hook"+site:davesweb.cnchost.com
http://cdn1.btrstatic.com/pics/hostp..._600_x_600.jpg 02:01
The Spingola Zone
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Re: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story
Personally, I don't see how anyone can STAND to listen to this woman! Her voice
is like fingernails on a chalkboard. Also, her "interview skills" have always been less
than impressive (not to mention her lack of basic grammar). She comes across as a
complete and total moron. I have never liked her nor "trusted" her.
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I used to enjoy her right up until she jumped the shark on the sandy hooknose hoax but I can't stand to listen to her now because of it.
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Tumbleweed
I used to enjoy her right up until she jumped the shark on the sandy hooknose hoax but I can't stand to listen to her now because of it.
I am listening to her "interview" of Wolf Halbig and having a hard time keeping a straight face! She is a shreiking BANSHEE!! He is holding his own pretty well (although I certainly don't agree with his "Israel" comments, but that's beside the point). He is to be lauded for keeping his cool. I would have HUNG UP ON HER RUDE ASS LONG AGO!! All she does is cut him off.
Evidently all it takes to convince her of government veracity is to peruse "official" reports, i.e. LIES.
She needs to WATCH MORE TV because she is making ASININE comments about what happens at a crime scene that anyone who watches ANY crime shows on TV knows the answer to!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0ipH03rMEE
The ONLY thing she "got" him on:
1) His company's mailing address is a rented mail box instead of a physical office address. BFD!!!
2) He mispronunces some people's names. With English as his SECOND language, she should cut him
some slack for that. Besides, his English is MUCH better than hers!!!
UNbelievable; that's all I can say.
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Today I listened to the show Deanna did with Piper as guest where they spoke mainly about Sandy Hook and his "False Flags" book.
All in all I would say that MCP's comments about "the Sandy Hook hoax" and the "Sandy Hook hoax crowd." all amount to an elaborate Straw Man logical fallacy presentation. He glommed onto certain positions of certain truth seekers and exagerated them or took them out of context or twisted them in any number of ways. Classic straw man.
My random and incomplete observations about this show.
Spingola said at first she took Sandy Hook to be what the early truth seekers were saying about it but then she read Piper's book and she had an "ah hah" moment and that is when she changed her take on Sandy Hook to believing it was real event. I think somewhere in this thread I read where Spingola claims her opinions are entirely arrived at on her own.
His choice of words was very curious. For example he referred to the "Sandy Hook hoax CROWD" uses the same word Cass Sunstein often uses --- "CROWD control".
As for the word "hoax", yes many truth seekers about Sandy Hook do use the word hoax but I think many of these people do so for very logical reasons.
1. If you look up the definition of hoax and you want one word that pretty well summarizes your findings in your truth seeking efforts, hoax is a very good word choice.
2. We do not just "throw out" the term "hoax" as Piper does in his Straw Man tirades. We back up, we fully support and document as much as we can, why we say "hoax."
3. From what I have read so far of the work of people who are seeking Sandy Hook truth, they do not focus on the word "hoax" at all. They just go about showing all the facts on the ground that just do not add up. When you get a large number of glaring inconsistencies or anomalies, things that just do not add up, one naturally begins to think in terms of the word "hoax", but that was never the main emphasis in what I have read. The emphasis was on describing the thing that does not add up and then elaborating on exactly why it does not add up. There are very big things that don't add up, such as that video on YouTube on what look like the Sandy Hook child victims at much older ages, and then there are very small or minor things that seem odd or strange like that woman who remarked how there was not a box of Kleenex anywhere around some person who was being interviewed whose child had just been murdered. I focus on the former.
Anyway, MCP did a Straw Man logical fallacy presentation on Spingola's show.
I thought it was interesting how Mark Lane was mentioned at the beginning and how Willis Carto suggested a book title for Mark Lane's book which ended up being published as "Rush to Judgment". That just acknowledged Mark Lanes continuing close relationship with Willis Carto who is said to be the owner and director of American Free Press. So the close association of this Jewish Zionist person with AFP's Carto is not something MCP wishes to keep quiet about apparently.
http://www.amazon.com/Mark-Lane/e/B000ARBDXG
(None of Lane's books ever mention a Zionist / Jew connection to any subject he writes about.)
I read today that Lane went to Guyana and gave a big speech to Jim Jones' ( his legal client) followers there and told them the CIA was coming over with that US Senator to kill them all, not to rescue them and so they all were scared and drank the Kool Aid. Now that is what I call mass murder done with words of Mark Lane.
Another thing I thought was probably based on what MCP really experiences but which was used or distorted was his talking about ...
"I have been smeared up and down"
"people have been trying to get me fired"
I receive "the most vicious emails"
emails are "threatening", "Vulgar" and "quite distubing"
Now this is the tac that Alex Jones often employs. AJ spends a lot of time telling about all the big media people who are writing hit pieces obout him and about all the things big people are saying against him and how he is just continuing to starnd up for truth and he is long-suffering and he just bears up under the onslaught. This is usually done for self aggrandizement but may be more complex motive for Piper using this tac.
Well, speaking of vulgar emails, here is the the said content of an email that Michael Collins Piper sent to M.C. Anderson... (By the way, M.C. Anderson may just be a "lone nutter" not sure yet)
ajmacdonaldjr.wordpress.com/.../sandy-hook-hoax-or-truth-tracy-smallst...
Dec 29, 2013 - The Michael Collins Piper (MCP) quote above didn't concern Sandy Hook ... Sandy Hook… the Boston Marathon Bombing… all of these events ...
“God damn to fucking all Hell of you asshole rumor mongers. Go fuck yourself, you motherfucker. I’d love to shove my cane up your ass and my other cane down your throat and strangle you like you deserve.” ~ Michael Collins Piper (email to the author of this blog)
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Jump the shark is what Piper did and in a very covert twisted way, Piper is supporting the Cass Sunstein agenda.
As for Piper having been fired from American Free Press, I do not know about that but I seriously doubt it. Piper said on this radio show that he was speaking on his own and did not represent AFP at all in his comments. He said he has not been on the staff at AFP for about ten years and has been only a "consultant" to AFP.
The firing and the consultant bits sound phony to me. There are fake firings and there are fake consultants.
By the way I do not think Piper has really "jumped shark". He has been operating from the same agenda for 30 plus years. But "it was just time" to stir up the "truth movement" and cause division and confusion and weaken the people on the internet who really were getting more and more together regarding their findings about Sandy Hook and Boston. Piper has been very successful at that.
Spingola has lost many of her listeners and so has Piper and many others. That was a very Sunstein-like accomplishment for Piper.
