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maybe the grass hopper protection act..................
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fluoride took care of that...........
And "education".Quote:
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Fracking may play a small part in this, but the real reason is Agenda 21 http://www.harryreid.com/index.php/n...nal_conservat/ Review Journal: Reid introduces bill to create Gold Butte National Conservation Area 1 tweets An effort was launched in Congress on Thursday to designate 350,000 acres of government-protected conservation land and wilderness northeast of Las Vegas. Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., proposed to create a National Conservation Area at Gold Butte, a region of rugged mountains, sandstone ridges, native American petroglyphs and abandoned mine sites in Clark County between the Overton arm of Lake Mead and Nevada’s border with Arizona. “Gold Butte is Nevada’s piece of the Grand Canyon,” Reid said in a statement that accompanied the legislation he introduced. “As more and more people discover this remarkable place, we must protect these resources for future generations while continuing to allow recreational opportunities we enjoy today.”
Read the full article >>http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/wa...servation-area
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this goverment keeps hitting new lows
Range Magazine has been a pretty good source of information on what the Feds have been up to over the years. Anyone wanting to get up to speed on the Feds war on the people in the west can find some pretty good articles at this link. http://www.rangemagazine.com/specialreports/index.htm
UPDATE: Up to 5,000 Armed Militia Members Will Be Arriving in Bunkerville, Nevada Today
Update: Word on the street from sources close to the militia movement is that up to 5,000 armed militia members will be arriving in Bunkerville, Nevada sometime today. (See full report below)
SHTFplan.com Editor’s Note: It is apparent that the Federal government was under the impression that they could simply move into the ranch land surrounding Bunkerville, NV and have their way with the property and livelihood of the Bundy family. What they didn’t count on was the outcry from Americans across the country. And now things may be headed to the next level. As Kim Paxton of The Daily Sheeple notes, citizen militias in several states have been called up. Many members of those organizations are taking up arms and are making their way to Nevada.
And it’s not just the citizen militias that are preparing to take action. The governor of Nevada has officially condemned the federal government’s actions, though he has yet to take any steps afforded to him under State law. Sheriff Richard Mack of Gilbert, Arizona has weighed in and calls the actions “terrorism.”
At last count there were some 200 federal agents from various agencies on the ground in Nevada and it appears that hundreds, perhaps thousands, of armed militia members will soon arrive to confront them.
The Federal government will no doubt step up their efforts, as they are facing the possibility of a widespread rebellion resulting from their actions against a private citizen whose only “crime” was to graze his cattle on the land his family has used for this purpose for over a century. It would not be at all surprising to see the President of the United States call up National Guard troops and more militarized law enforcement officials for fear of having this spiral out of control. A declaration of martial law to go along with already established First Amendment Areas is not out of the question.
We may well be on the cusp of a serious stand-off involving thousands of people. Keep in mind that most of them will be armed.
Given the circumstances, things could turn very bloody very quickly.
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http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-new...evada_04102014
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Bundy Ranch is REAL
UPDATE: The Nevada Militia has shown up at the Bundy ranch to kick the BLM out. The governor of Nevada celebrated the arrival of the militia and spoke in support of the Bundys, issuing the statement "No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans".
As I suspected, the Bundy's ranch is on land that the Fed wants to mine for minerals and they need the water that is reserved for the cattle to conduct mining operations. The land has been assesed to have high grade deposits of minerals that are good for military applications and the Fed wants the Bundys out of the way. Adding to the problem is that much of the land is prime real estate, and the Fed wants it to sell it off. EVEN MORE DAMNING is that the best and most prime real estate is actually owned by the Bundy's which means the BLM is trespassing on much of it anyway. It is neither state nor federal land. There have been numerous attempts to kick the Bundy's off their property so a tycoon can come in and put a residential development in. So as is the norm, a turtle or fly or slug or whatever has been used as an excuse for an eviction, when multibillion dollar corporations wanting the land for mining operations and real estate tycoons wanting the most prime areas are the real reason, and the muscle of the government most likely bought by campain contributions is being used to get the Bundy's off the land after the Bundy's refused really good offers for it from potential buyers.
The BLM is getting so anxious to get the cows off the land that they are running many of them to death, and that is why the backhoes are there to bury them. The BLM has hired blackwater mercenaries to snipe anyone who "does not belong" there.
Bundy Ranch comments:
"Feds say it will cost 3 million dollars to round up the cattle and dispose of them" My response:
I have the solution to the problem. Hire a bunch of cattle rustlers to go in there and steal all the cattle. They will GLADLY do it for FREE. Then just give the Bundy's the "three million" for their grief.
"Feds say this is being done to save the desert tortoise" My response: I don't think cows eat turtles. If the cows were devastating competition for them, they would have been gone in the 1800's
About the "free speech" zone: Has tyranny gone so far that it even has to control where people shout to the desert wind? Obviously so, which is why that same tyranny thinks cows threaten turtles now. Or is it that the land those cows graze on is in fact being sold to China? Maybe Warren Buffet wants it. Who knows. But turtles rule. And they will taste good in China.
UPDATE: The cattle are not being killed and buried, they are in fact being taken by BLM supported cattle rustlers, as I said would be common sense. These rustlers have been given brand new trucks and trailers to do it, and they are selling the cattle at auction FOR PROFIT. THEY ARE SELLING THEM AT AUCTION, THE SAME WAY THE BUNDY FAMILY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A LIVING. So HOW DO YOU GET A $3 MILLION LOSS OUT OF STEALING A FORTUNE IN CATTLE AND SELLING IT? GOOD QUESTION, THE ONLY ANSWER TO WHICH IS OBVIOUS OUT OF CONTROL CORRUPTION.
The area is 600,000 acres. That is HUGE. And if you get out of your car on any of the roads you are immediately arrested and taken to federal prison, for committing a federal crime. Infrared sensors are in place all throughout the desert now, and there are numerous private corporate "blackwater" snipers on the hills. No one has been shot yet, but the state is certainly set for that.
Rising up peacefully is NOT the answer. You cannot peacefully remove any tyranny, tyranny laughs at people who think "peace" can bring about change in a system enforced by state sponsored violence. They brought the guns to the party FIRST.
-Original post- After looking over some of the videos and seeing what is going on out in Nevada, I firmly believe this is no hoax.
Citing illegal land usage, the BLM moved in on a ranch which has been in place since the wild west days, and had paid cattle rustlers go in and steal the cattle. Some of the cattle were also killed and buried with backhoes. The only difference between this and Waco is that at Waco people were actually targeted and killed, and with the Bundy ranch, a family legacy was destroyed. Both were grave rights violations.
I believe that what happened with the Bundy ranch was the result of continuous encroaching regulations and arrogance of the government, and that the Bundy family actually still had a truthful right to continue using the land under the law. Most likely the BLM was given unlawful orders to destroy the ranch and it's cattle and they followed through on them. I am still looking into this story and will post updates. I have been to many protests, and know the CIA ones from the real ones. The video Farganne posted was of a real one, I have no idea why he doubts it.
This is a mirror image of the destruction of the hog farmers in Michigan, where a totally out of control government rolls around in arrogance like the pigs they killed will roll in _____
THis is page one of an 8 page report from Range Magazine. Maybe it deserves its own thread but I am putting it in here because of the relevance to the current situation.
http://www.rangemagazine.com/feature...21-stealth.pdf
Special Report Part I
AGENDA 21: SWALLOWING AMERICA
If you remember, “We have to pass the bill [Obamacare] in order to know what’s in it,” you will know that America’s weak leaders are using federal bribes to do the same thing with the United Nations’ Agenda 21.
Since the ’90s, the United Nations’ Agenda 21 has been implemented nationwide at the federal, state and local levels, with very few people even being aware of it. It is dangerous because it destroys the most important civil liberty we have— private property rights.
Most Americans have read or heard of one or more federally funded programs pro- moting “sustainability.” Few citizens, howev- er, know these programs are based on a major U.N. program called Agenda 21, which is buried in smoke and disinforma- tion generated by the government and its partners in the media. This U.N. program is very dangerous to our personal liberties and the stealth with which Agenda 21 has been implemented should concern everyone.
The Miracle of a Great Nation
Wealth creation and liberty are impossible without legally protected private property rights—which are the cornerstone of all other liberties. This is why Agenda 21 takes direct aim at eliminating them. This critically important principle is no longer being taught in public schools, but was well-known to our Founders. James Madison wrote: “Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well as that which lies in the various rights of individuals...this being the end of government, that alone is a just govern- ment, which impartially secures, to every man, whatever is his own.”
This may sound crazy if you are less than 50 years old and educated in the public school system. For more than 60 years, the education change artists have successfully removed any hint of this all-important prin- ciple. Yet it was widely known and under- stood by all colonists as the primary principle of “whoever owns the property owns the people depending on it to live.” Wayne Hage, a Nevada rancher who success- fully fought a major property rights case in the U.S. Court of Claims during the 1990s 2000s, made the concept even simpler:
For the complete report and part II: http://www.rangemagazine.com/feature...21-stealth.pdf
By Michael S. Coffman, Ph.D.
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There is said to be an ocean of water underneath eastern Nevada if you go deep enough and Las Vegas needs water. The Bundys ranch is sitting on top of a lot of it. There is a good article with a map and the effort to get control of it in the archives of Range Magazine. The desert tortoise is also discussed in the article and how they come into play and are used on this issue. The article is at this link http://www.rangemagazine.com/special...e-an-ocean.pdf
I used to own stock in that water, it never went anywhere so I sold it and broke even... PICO ticker
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/pico/interactive-chart
"Them Son of a Bitches will fire the next shot heard around the world. And WE will fire the rest".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v0_SXrs4SkQ
Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=v0_SXrs4SkQ
Here's some hardcore irony for ya: we just have to protect that little helpless desert tortoise but fuck all those marine mammals we're killing with our sonar testing.
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/16/u_s_...ing_exercises/
Cliven speaks next, I needed headphones, laptop sound just doesn't deliver sometimes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkWljeiAhYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkWljeiAhYI
The Fed goons can't afford to let the little guy win this battle...it would set a presidence to other little guys.
So, let's get this shooting war underway!...show the world what we've become.
Don Edwards has a pretty good song he does here that expresses the proper sentiment for the occasion. There's a lot of disgust all across this nation for the people in power but when it comes down to it looks like we're all on our own against them. The Clark county sheriff could gather up his deputies and a swat team and tell the Feds to leave but he's not going to do it. He should lose his job and his pension and so should the governor if he does nothing.
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Chances are the Clark County Sheriff takes his marching orders from the same people who pull Harry Reid's strings.
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Clark County supporters should be making a big noisy show of gathering siggys for a recall election-- kick his arse out in disgrace, the way they did in CO for those 2 gun grabbers.Quote:
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In the county where Sin City aka Sodomite Central is located? You're such a dreamer.Quote:
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Bundy Ranch Update1 Militia begin to arrive!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U228JA42_MA
link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U228JA42_MA
Collins manages to insult, offend Utahns with comments on Bundy roundup
Clark County Commissioner Tom Collins fears the dispute at Cliven Bundy’s ranch that has drawn protesters from across state lines might turn violent.
So when Collins talked this week with a county commissioner in Utah who said others are coming so Southern Nevada to support the Bundys, he did what he usually does: He spoke his opinion without mincing words or worrying if he offended someone.
Those comments are now making the rounds on social media and have attracted criticism from people ranging from Utah ranchers to his colleagues on the County Commission.
It started when Darin Bushman, a Piute County, Utah, commissioner, called Collins about the Bureau of Land Management roundup of Bundy’s cattle in the Gold Butte area, about 80 miles east of Las Vegas. The cattle are being seized after Bundy failed to pay grazing fees over 20 years. When the conversation ended, Bushman posted on Facebook that Collins said Utahns are “inbred bastards” and if they come to Clark County to support Bundy they “better have funeral plans.”
Collins also told Bushman that they should mind their “own (expletive) business.”
“Now that’s some classy leadership for you,” Bushman wrote in his post.
On Tuesday, Clark County commissioners will discuss decorum of commissioners, which was sparked in part by concerns about Collins’ recent statements, said commission Chairman Steve Sisolak. Sisolak said Collins won’t be the sole focus of that discussion, which will examine the broader issue of decorum.
He said he’s uncertain of what the outcome might be or whether it would require anything formal such as a policy change.
Commissioner Mary Beth Scow welcomes the decorum discussion, too.
“I think commissioners can agree to disagree and make better decisions when they get a diversity of thoughts but I don’t believe it can ever be personal,” she said. “I think the phrase ‘agree to disagree’ works very well.”
In an interview, Collins downplayed Bushman’s elected office, noting his county has only about 1,500 people. Census data shows the tiny rural county has just 1,556 people.
“I’m trying to do everything I can to discourage anybody who tells me they’re coming here with loaded guns,” Collins said. “I’m going to tell them not to come.”
The issues at hand are complex and a protester who doesn’t understand rural Nevada fails to grasp the whole picture of the situation, Collins said.
In an email to the Review-Journal, he added: “This isn’t about Cliven’s cows nearly as much as it is about Public Lands access. We don’t need anyone toting guns to fix that.”
Collins said he’s been in touch with BLM officials about the issue and is closely following the situation.
“The Bundys want peace,” Collins said. “They don’t want any violence going on so all these gun-packing folks just need to go home.”
Bushman said he contacted Collins to discuss his views on jurisdictions of lands. He said the conversation for the most part was “civil and professional,” as he shared his understanding of how federal jurisdictions work.
Bushman said he told Collins he was heading to the protest and expected some people from his county to be there, as the issue has attracted the concerns of Utah ranchers.
“This guy was just off-the-hook weird,” Bushman said. “I’ve never ran into a fellow commissioner who treated me like that.”
At the Bundy ranch with protesters Monday, Bushman mentioned the exchange with someone who called Collins on a speakerphone and inquired about the conversation.
Again, Collins insulted Utahns, Bushman said, angering the Beehive State residents who were supporting the Bundys.
When asked if he had any regrets about what he told the county commissioner from Utah, Collins said: “I’ve got no regrets about what I said to that son of a bitch.”
https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/w...-bundy-roundup
Armed militia groups defend rancher in Nevada.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfZj6f_luSE&feature=youtu.be
link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfZj6...ature=youtu.be
One has to wonder how many of theys Armed militia that are showing up are EX Military . The goverment knows that they MEN know how to fight and i would hope they may fear them
Just in time for the weekend. This is a non event.
That's real easy to say, sitting on the sidelines far, far away.Quote:
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BLM works weekends with a bunch of armed people waiting? I think BLM will return next week.Quote:
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I think I read at the Oath Keepers site that Sheriff Richard Mack and others with him will be showing up monday.
The District of Criminals gang has ALL the time and resources in the world (thanks to all those enablers out there who dutifully enable them), no need for them to get in any hurry. They'll just wait out those who lack time and resources - that's my take on it.
Harry Reid's Connection to Bundy Ranch Siege
By Daxton Brown
Twitter @daxtonbrown
As some may be aware, the Bundy Ranch in Nevada is having 500 plus head of free range cattle that have been fed on desert BLM land seized by the government. This is a long standing decades old dispute that pits the Bundy family, who have ranched this land since the 1870s, against a literal army of BLM SWAT forces supposedly there to protect desert tortoises.
Our purpose here is to show how this siege must all eventually be linked to Senator Harry Reid, who literally controls everything that happens in Nevada. I wrote the only biography of Harry Reid (more below) which goes into his history of shady land dealings and use of the BLM. The best leverage the Bundys have is not against the BLM, but by making corrupt Harry Reid the focus of media attention. Because this is breaking, I will be updating this page continuously as I put information together, lots more to come.
Descriptions of what is going on at Bundy Ranch can be found here
Constitutional Sheriff Mack Speaks on Bundy Ranch Standoff
Bundy Ranch Blog
BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM
In bullet point, tying my research on Reid in with the situation, here are some reasons why Reid is vulnerable and complicit in this issue:
Neil Kornze, former Reid aid, is now a BLM Director and is well involved in the Bundy seige. Kornze was responsible for planning the allottment of 285,000 acres to dedicated Solar farm development (a pet Reid boondoggle). These Solar development zones are Tortoise and Bird kill zones - see BrightSource. So Reid knows damn well what is going on at the Bundy Ranch and could stop the BLM Gestapo cold.
It turns out Brightsource is also a big Reid contributor. See how this works? Hundreds of thousands of acres set aside to kill Tortoises for Friends of Reid, nothing for the Bundys who have worked and preserved the land since 1870.
Harry Reid killed more Tortoises in cahoots with Brightsource solar and jailed buddy Harvey Whittemore than Bundyranch.
Reid helped good friend and bigtime lawyer/lobbyist Harvey Whittemore procure environmental waivers for the Coyote Springs golf and residential development, a short distance from the Bundy Ranch. L.A. Times did a big expose on Reid and Coyote Springs special deals for Whittemore. Reid was happy to let Brightsource propose to cover 8,300 acres of tortoise land of the 42,000-acre Coyote Springs. These included powerline changes and most importantly, a land swap with BLM for Desert Tortoise land. Whittemore claims Harry had nothing to do with the dubious Tortoise landswap, like anything in Nevada happens at Reid's displeasure.
Harvey Whittemore was convicted of giving Reid illegal campaign contributions and is due to start a two year sentence. Only the big boys who pay under the table get Reid's favors. Whittemore's lawyer is Dominic Gentile, good buddy of Reid and sometime mob lawyer. Dominic owns the Palomino strip club, what a guy.
Here's what the BLM really thinks of Desert Tortoises. Let them Burn! Not thirty miles from the Bundy Ranch. Dry Lakes
Harry Reid 'owns' 200 acres in Searchlight, all old BLM mining deeds inherited from his miner dad, all filled with desert Tortoise. His claim to that land is likely dependent on BLM favouritism. Maybe he should be evicted. In 2007 Vegas land was $700k/acre. People thought Searchlight would be bedroom community. During Real Estate boom, Reid thought his land was worth $20 million. That's why the new four lane highway into Searchlight directly benefited Reid, for land he has no more right to than the Bundys.
http://www.futurnamics.com/images/Re...hlightLand.jpg
http://www.futurnamics.com/images/ReidHouse.jpg
Reid's house was built by developer Jim Rhodes (they all thought they'd make a killing in Seachlight), right smack dab in Tortoise land. Coincidentally, Rhodes was also fined for illegal contributions to Reid. Rhodes later hired disgraced Erin Kenny for $16,000 a month, a Reid protege for Lieutenant Governor, who was caught taking bribes from Tittybar owner Mike Galardi of Cheetahs and did jail time. Reid's other protege, Dario Herrera, also did jail for Tittybar bribes. What a nice crew, friends of Harry.
Someone should ask how many Tortoises were killed building a four lane superhighway to Harry Reid's land in Searchlight. Reid has positioned himself to be a beneficiary of owning the land entering Searchlight as a future bedroom community. Maybe he should be asked about his Desert Tortoise land in Arizona too.
If Harry Reid truly believes in the environment and not making his family pig rich off of BLM favouritism, he should be asked to put his Searchlight 200 acres into a BLM Desert Tortoise Trust in perpetuity. He could call it the Desert Institute for Reid Tortoises (DIRT)
Fifty acres of the Reid Searchlight DIRT is co owned with acknowleged Reid best buddy Jay Brown, also conveniently a mob and tittybar lawyer. Reid also did a deal on land "he didn't own" and collected $1.1 million in cahoots with Brown (see also in above article). Who says Harry Reid doesn't know how to play land deals for a quick skim? Not like he'd ever play the BLM for his own benefit.
Reid also promoted the Desert Express High Speed Rail boondoggle from Victorville to Las Vegas (so bad it can't make it over the grade to get to LA, now Express West). This was a payoff to Reid good buddy lobbyist Sig Rogich, who amazingly turned around immediately after the Reid endorsement and ran Republicans For Reid (which is big reason Sharron Angle lost). Maybe someone should ask Reid how many Desert Tortoises that taxpayer funded railway payoff would have killed.
No one does anything in Nevada without Harry approval. That's why the Bundys needs to expand protest to the top slimeball in the land, Harry Reid, and make this a national issue. Reid could stop the Bundy Ranch Seige with just a phone call, to his BLM buddy Kornze or to Obama. But he won't because there is no bribe money in it for him. Make him a pinata.
http://www.futurnamics.com/reid_bundyranch.php
BLM Action in Nevada is Unconstitutional, Here’s Why
A direct violation of Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution
Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
April 11, 2014
http://static.infowars.com/bindnfoco...4/jmadison.jpgJames Madison: “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined.”
The establishment media is now paying attention to Cliven Bundy and his struggle with the Bureau of Land Management. Most of this coverage assumes Bundy is engaged in illegal cattle grazing on federal land.
“The U.S. government is rounding up Bundy’s cattle that it says have been grazing illegally on public lands in Clark County for more than 20 years, according to the land-management bureau and the National Park Service,” CNN reports today.
The BLM insists “Mr. Bundy has… failed to comply with multiple court orders to remove his cattle from the federal lands and to end the illegal trespass.”
It is the BLM, not Cliven Bundy, who is in violation of the law and the Constitution, specifically Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution.
The clause, known as the Enclave Clause, authorizes Congress to purchase, own and control land in a state under specific and limited conditions, namely “for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings,” and not, as the feds now insist, to protect an endangered tortoise.
The Founders were opposed to providing a centralized federal government with unlimited authority to purchase and, as is routinely the case today, seize state and private land.
During the federal convention debates in September, 1787, Elbridge Gerry, who later went on to serve as vice president under James Madison, contended federal purchase of land “might be made use of to enslave any particular State by buying up its territory, and that the strongholds proposed would be a means of awing the State into an undue obedience.”
In order to make certain the federal government did not abuse the Enclave Clause, the words “Consent of the Legislature of the State” were added.
Madison, Jefferson and the Founders were primarily interested in limited government and the diffusion of federal authority over the states for the protection of individual liberty. In 1992, the Supreme Court issued an opinion on the framers’ reasoning behind the state consent requirement (New York v. U.S):
“The Constitution does not protect the sovereignty of States for the benefit of the States or state governments as abstract political entities, or even for the benefit of the public officials governing the States. To the contrary, the Constitution divides authority between federal and state governments for the protection of individuals. State sovereignty is not just an end in itself: rather, federalism secures to citizens the liberties that derive from the diffusion of sovereign power.” (Emphasis added.)
Madison knew unlimited federal power inevitably results in unbridled tyranny. “I venture to declare it as my opinion that, were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited government established by the people of America,” he wrote.
Despite the desire of the founders and the originating principles of the nation, conceived as a constitutional republic, the federal government has repeatedly and habitually exacted dictatorial authority in Nevada and throughout much of the West.
“The United States government owns and has broad authority to regulate federal lands in Nevada,” the BLM arrogantly insists. “In response to challenges of federal ownership of the lands in Nevada, the 9th circuit held that the federal government owned all federal lands in Nevada, and that those lands did not pass to the state upon statehood.”
This is in direct conflict with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 of the Constitution.
Cliven Bundy’s struggle with the BLM in Nevada is exactly the situation Madison and the founders tried to prevent. The federal government does not have the constitutional authority to own land, beyond what is stipulated in the Enclave Clause, and its seizure of land, under the obviously fallacious pretense of protecting a tortoise, is a serious violation of the Constitution.
Madison made if perfectly clear in Federalist Paper 45:
“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined… The [federal powers] will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce… the powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”
“It’s really about our constitutional rights and statehood,” Bundy has said. “And whether this area known as the state of Nevada is owned by the United States government or is owned by the sovereign state of Nevada.”
Mr. Bundy, despite a propaganda campaign to the contrary launched by the federal government and its subservient media, is absolutely correct – the war shaping up between the Nevada rancher and the federal government is about states’ rights and, ultimately, the rights of sovereign individuals.
This article was posted: Friday, April 11, 2014 at 10:31 am
http://www.infowars.com/blm-action-i...nal-heres-why/
Does that include the Feds? No? I thought not.Quote:
“I’m trying to do everything I can to discourage anybody who tells me they’re coming here with loaded guns,” Collins said. “I’m going to tell them not to come.”
Of course not, you can't win an argument with an idiot who thinks you should lick the boot of your attackers. Violence while not ideal in all situations is absolutely needed in some. You know, namely freedom and restoration of rights. Government only recognizes force, that is all it knows. There are many, many, many examples of them not giving a shit if you are unarmed and protesting "peacefully". They'll taser you, beat you, arrest you, and sometimes kill you. But yeah, let's keep to the "peaceful protest" thing, because it's worked so well in the past... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by madfranks
Maybe if all the protesters that got roughed up the other day had been armed no one would have been tasered, tackled or had a dog go after them. The BLM guys might have acted more polite and considerate of the people gathered there to protest and question their actions.
Bundy Ranch Midday Update:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GcOrJDSQ_eM
Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=GcOrJDSQ_eM
Militias head to Nevada rancher’s standoff with feds: We’re not ‘afraid to shoot’
Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s decades-long battle against the federal government over grazing rights has heated to the point where militia groups have joined in and taken up spots against the feds who’ve circled his land — and talk is, they’re not afraid to open fire.
A spokesman for the one of the militia groups said as much to local 8 News Now: I’m not “afraid to shoot,” he said.
Margaret Houston, Mr. Bundy’s sister and a cancer survivor, said at a town hall gathering this week that the situation “was like a war zone” and that she felt “like I was not in the United States,” The Daily Mail reported.
The Las Vegas Review-Journal described it this way: “Serious bloodshed was narrowly avoided,” in a story about how dogs were unleashed on a woman who was pregnant while the rancher’s son was hit with a taser.
On Tuesday, armed Bureau of Land Management agents stormed Mr. Bundy’s property, escalating a court dispute that’s wound for two decades over the rancher’s refusal to pay for grazing fees.
Mr. Bundy’s view is that he owns his property — that it’s been in his family’s hands for centuries — and he doesn’t have to pay for his own 900-head of cattle to graze on the 600,000 acre Gold Butte property.
The government, meanwhile, says the land belongs to it, and agents have swooped and circled, closing off roadway access to the property and flying helicopters overhead the family’s home.
Following the agent occupation, one of Mr. Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy, was tasered by a federal official to the point that blood seeped through his shirt, video showed. Ms. Houston, meanwhile, said she was roughed up and manhandled by authorities, telling town hall attendees that she was “hit from the back; it was like a football tackle” and that “they just took me and threw me down to the ground,” The Daily Mail reported.
BLM, for its part, says the situation only turned violent when protesters who rallied to the family’s defense kicked a K-9 unit officer.
Now militia groups are on the scene, promising to help the Bundys keep up the fight.
“This is what we do, we provide armed response,” Jim Lordy, with Operation Mutual Aid, told the local broadcast station. “They have guns. We need guns to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government.”
Mr. Lordy also said “many more” militia groups are coming to the site to join in the Bundy family defense.
“They all tell me they are in the process of mobilizing as we speak,” another member told the Review-Journal.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...f-feds-were-n/
Nevada is an open carry state.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tumbleweed
Cell communication has been cut at Bundy Ranch.
Cell towers have been shut down around #BundyRanch Call going out for ham operators
http://inagist.com/all/454688319301890048/
Well there ya go, clear evidence of a Fascist state when corporations work so closely with an out of control 'government'*. Gotta protect those 'endangered desert tortoises' (wink, wink) but fuck all the marine mammals being systemically killed by the Pentagram.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ares
*I use the term 'government' very loosely, 'cause it's corporate government for corporations and the Republic is the house no one lives in
They can kill the towers, not many people need them in that area. This kills video feeds which I noticed about 8 hours ago when searching for latest videos (last hour).