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not unlikely he got some special 'treatment' during his year long stay in military prison, no?
and he certainly showed potential for the mission - beating the kid and wife so bad/so much that he got a year in prison for it. also read that after he got out of prison he was charged with animal cruelty in colorado springs.
sounds like a blue chip recruit for nyc.dc gun grabber mission
Military = government agent. Sorry , its the definition of a useful idiot.
no doubt. and if you have extra depravity, they can make you (in)famousQuote:
Originally Posted by JDRock
I would like to know many more details attesting to the "multiple casualties." It can still be a "false flag" even if there were casualities and the shooting was real, but if there are zero records about deaths and hospitalizations, I would doubt this one twoo.
Al Jazerra newspaper had the article announcing this Church "shooting" all written and ready for publication about 24 hours BEFORE the event.
...http://www.nnettle.com/news/3093-tex...lse-flag-event...
Texas Church Shooting Massacre Confirmed as False Flag Event Evidence emerges that mainstream media had advance knowledge of the attack By: Jay Greenberg |@NeonNettle on 6th November 2017 @ 12.20pm
Read more at: http://www.nnettle.com/news/3093-tex...lse-flag-event
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Following the shocking news of a mass shooting in a Texas church on Sunday, evidence has now emerged that proves the attack actually was a False Flag event. The suspected shooter, 26-year-old Devin Patrick Kelley, reportedly opened fire on churchgoers during Sunday service at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, killing at least 27 people. The incident took place at around 11:30 a.m. local time when a man reportedly walked into the church, located about 40 miles east of San Antonio, and opened fire, according to witnesses. The news made headlines worldwide, yet some mainstream media news outlets had advance knowledge of the attack, even reporting on the incident a full day before it happened. Want to Silence Your Liberal Friends in 17 Seconds Flat? Show Them This Health Sciences Institute Sponsored by Revcontent Read More > 84,990 Qatar-based network Al Jazeera written an reported on the shooting over 24 hours before the shooting happened and scheduled the news item to appear on their website moments after the incident took place. The article published on their website titled Texas: At least 26 killed in Sutherland Springs church is timestamped with a time and date that shows the article was published shortly after the news broke. There's nothing unusual about that, right? Everything seems normal. The discrepancy is between the time it was created and the time it was published. The article was written and created over a day before the shooting but was scheduled to go live just after it happened. Most news website sites have a scheduling system to allow them to publish content at set times rather than at the time it was created. For example, if here at Neon Nettle, we have an article that's more relevant to our Australian audience, we would schedule it to go live at a more appropriate time for them rather than in the middle of the night when most of our audience would miss it. If we did this, the article would show the time it went live, but our server would also log the time it was created, which, in theory, could be weeks or months in advance. So how do we know when that article was created? Every once in a while, Google's extreme snooping comes in handy, and this is one of those instances. When Google scrapes content and adds it to their search, it also logs the server time and date it was created so it can show the user how old an article is. A quick search on Google and we can see the Al Jazeera article was created way before the incident happened (see screenshot below).
http://www.nnettle.com/news/images/t...ent-261117.jpg
So why would an Arab mainstream media network have advanced knowledge of a mass shooting event in Texas? This is clearly a hallmarking of a false flag, and the key to figuring out the motivation behind usually requires taking a closer look at what else is in the news headlines, or what is being kept out of the press. Over the weekend, major stories were breaking or about to break. On Sunday, we broke the story that Democrat lobbyist Tony Podesta was taken into custody by the US Marshalls. READ MORE: Tony Podesta Arrested: Arrest Warrants Issued for Hillary Clinton & John Podesta Sources also confirmed that lawyers representing his brother John Podesta and Hillary Clinton had negotiated their surrender for indictment on the condition that the news is kept out of the press. Shooting up a church full of Conservatives would certainly distract attention away from an imminent Democrat implosion. Also, over the weekend, Saudi Arabia's heir to the throne ordered a mass purge of billionaires, including royalty, in a huge child trafficking crackdown. READ MORE: Sauda Arabia Arrests Dozens of Billionaires and Princes in Mass Purge Speculation that the Saudi Arabian arrests are part of a negotiation with President Trump for a crackdown on the global pedophilia epidemic, is currently sweeping sites like Reddit and 4chan. News has also broke today that a helicopter carrying Prince Mansour bin Muqrin and other key Saudi Arabian officials has crashed on the Yemen border. False flags have the power alter public perception in several ways. The main objectives for such an event are usually to draw public attention away from another damaging story, or to sway public opinion into getting behind unpopular policies being pushed by the government. This latest gun attack could be another attempt at tearing up the US Constitution to change gun laws, but it would seem unnecessary so soon after the Las Vegas massacre. The objective for the Texas shooting appears to be more focused of distraction. With the Democrats so heavily in the sights at the moment, a mass shooting that gives Conservatives something else to talk about is suspicious at the very least. As events unfold, the motivation behind this horrific false flag event will become clearer.
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imo, one of the last places 'they' would pull a hoax. long established people in rural hood -- farmers, conservatives, Christians. there's no fluff around to cover their tracks. that region offers the best of what is texas. small german and czech communities that have been there for 7 generations. the mom and pop bakeries and meat markets are incredible
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...purchase-guns/Quote:
Reporter for the Texas Tribune, Alexandra Samuels tweeted a statement released from the Air Force, “NEW: U.S. Air Force issues statement saying #SutherlandSprings shooter’s domestic violence offense was NOT entered into the NICS database.”
Obama's Air Force btw.
yet another version of the story - this one rings the truest yet - cops did nothing but clean up the mess after two locals took care of the problem. strange that they only estimated the number of kids shot -- wtf
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...patrick-kelley
As details about yesterday’s shooting at First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas started trickling out, witnesses and police sources shared how one brave man with a rifle confronted and shot suspected killer Devin Kelly, forcing him to flee.
A high-speed pursuit ensued, which ended when Kelly’s car crashed into a ditch. Police said they found Kelly dead in his vehicle, but it isn’t clear how he died.
However, two men who reportedly helped stop the shooter are now being hailed as selfless heros - “good guys with guns” who potentially saved dozens of lives by stopping the killer before he could murder more innocent people. As Sheriff Joe Tackitt pointed out in an interview with CNN, “there’s another church right down the road,” suggesting that the killer could’ve headed there next after murdering more than half of First Baptist’s congregation if he had not been stopped.
My San Antonio is now reporting that the man who confronted Kelly outside the church is Stephen Willeford, a sharp-shooting plumber with no military background who managed to shoot Kelly - who was reportedly dressed in tactical gear - prompting him to flee the scene. Earlier media reports identified Willeford as being a neighbor of the church.
As Willeford exchanged gunfire with Kelly outside the church, a second man - identified as Johnny Langendorff - pulled over when he witnessed the carnage and saw Kelly speed off. Willeford saw Langendorff and quickly rushed to his car.
Here’s more from My San Antonio:
Johnny Langendorff was one of the men who chased after suspected killer Devin Kelley, a 26-year-old from Comal County, he told KSAT in a television interview.
"I pulled up to the intersection where the shooting happened and I saw two men exchanging gunfire," Langendorff said, noting the shooter and another local were shooting at each other.
Once the gunman fled the church grounds in his vehicle, Langendorff said the other man came to his car.
"The other gentleman said we needed to pursue (the shooter) because he shot up the church," he said. "So that's what I did. I just acted."
“So we were doing about 95 mph, going around traffic and everything,” he added.
The pair chased the man down FM 539 headed North before the shooter lost control and ran off the roadway. Langendorff said the other man with him jumped out of the car and drew his rifle on Kelley.
"He didn't move after that," Langendorff said.
According to the New York Post, Texas Department of Public Safety chief Freeman Martin said Willeford “grabbed his rifle and engaged the suspect” after Kelley left the First Baptist Church. An area resident told the paper that Willeford, an avid biker who attends another church, learned about the shooting when his daughter called to say a man clad in body armor was shooting worshipers.
The local said that although Willeford has no military background, he didn’t hesitate when he came face to face with the suspect — and managed to squeeze off a round that struck the gunman, who had dropped his Ruger AR-15 variant.
Kelley had taken a hostage in his SUV’s passenger seat before fleeing, the local man told the paper.
According to Langendorff, it took cops about five to seven minutes to arrive. In the meantime, they kept a gun trained on Kelley.
“The police arrived and they pushed us back and they took care of the rest,” he said.
Langendorff’s girlfriend, Summer Caddel, said Kelley died a few feet away from Langendorff.
The local man, who knows both heroes, said Willeford made sure Kelley’s hostage was outside the vehicle when they approached the SUV.
Authorities are now reporting that between 12 and 14 children were among the 26 fatalities of the shooting. Another 20 people were injured. Police said not all of the victims were shot inside the church, but declined to elaborate.
Yesterday’s church shooting was the deadliest mass shooting in Texas history, and the deadliest shooting at a church in US history.
Something we won't be seeing in the jewsmedia - I've a friend who knows an aide to Gov. Abbott. My friend was advised that Abbott told the feds to butt out of the church shooting investigation, that they could take their toys and go home and that this was a state matter having nothing to do with terrorism.
Way too many inconsistencies for this story to be valid as I said from the beginning yaaaaaaawn
nay sayers are either idiots or forum trolls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O_dQO8Y5so
You doubt anything your handlers tell you to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dachsie
Any idiocy about Sutherland Springs being a "hoax" or even a "false flag" ENDS with Stephen Willeford.
A "hoax" is not going to boldly reinforce the "good guy with a gun" meme
And a "false flag" is not going to lay blame on a life-long loser ATHEIST (leftist) who battered his infant stepbaby and ex-wife.
Dachsie is just another one of the kooks sowing deliberate disinformation.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheka.
You flushed what little credibility you had down the shitter:Quote:
Originally Posted by StreetsOfGold
Only a Devil says "it takes guts" to butcher unarmed children and women.Quote:
Originally Posted by StreetsOfGold
You can drop the "I'm a Christian" farce now, Shlomo, you're exposed.
“His parents had him on high doses of ‘psych’ meds from 6th to 9th grade, the time I knew him,” said the student, who only wished to be identified as Reid.
The student also said Kelley often posted on his Facebook page about his assault rifle and atheism, and that “a lot of friends quit talking to him by senior year.”
Courtney Kleiber, a New Braunfels High School student who identified herself as Kelley’s “best friend for a number of years,” said in a Facebook discussion about the shooting that Kelley once was heavily involved with the First Baptist Church.
“I was his best friend for a number of years and he was a happy, caring person back then. It's crazy what time and [mental] illness can do to you,” she wrote.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/06...ck-kelley.html
Yes, it would seem that way.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheka.
But, I would opine that this event seems to be part of an overall string of events over the last few months all being orchestrated by one entity. In that sense, I think this event was planned.
The photo of the perp looks like a MK Ultra individual if I ever saw one.
There is some indication that these MK Ultra's people are being "queen of diamond'd" , triggered, right and left these days.
These people can be set into motion, to do any motion depending on the trigger, and can act in off-the-shelf false events on a moment's notice. Pro re nada.
Our oh so tough and righteous governor in Texas has a long history of being in on serious corruption of the usual kind - bribery, etc. He has his role to play.
The event this time scripts "conservative" "Christians" as victims.
And white drugged up looking guy as the "shooter."
No radical terrorist Muslim type this time.
This event would seem to be a chess move to distract, distract from what? You decide.
Whether real people were killed as usual we are not to know anything about that.
But this event is still part of a succession of events and they are all planned, orchestrated and scripted, and these events can be played out in any state of the union.
It is horrifying and very sad if innocent people were killed when attending their church.
The perpetrators could care less, and the true perpetrator is not a lone gunman.
Dachsie's purpose here is revealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dachsie
7th trump, Goldissima, StreetsofGeld, Dachsie...all being outed as Kosher agents of disinformation...
It's the same MO as all the other shooting events, lone gunman.
It's an agenda, period.
indeed. researchers ought to put most of their effort into hunting down WHO, rather than spending so much time on the details of the eventQuote:
Originally Posted by old steel
Hmm, the news just reported that the FBI has the shooters phone and is analyzing it at their lab in Virginia.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Indeed, and they're claiming they're "having trouble" getting into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by madfranks
Abbott has exactly one option to keep the Federal regime out of a state case: order the DPS to use force. He ain't gonna do that.
Obama's Air Force...
12 months in jail and a "bad conduct" (better than dishonorable) discharge for his crimes...
Texas church gunman escaped from mental health facility in 2012 after threatening military superiors
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.b595de8eb11a
Texas shooter Devin Patrick Kelley had pending sex assault case, sheriff says
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/devin-p...-assault-case/
Yes, the only motive made public is that the equipment were available to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by old steel
Here is Dr. James Fetzer pontificating on a wide range of conspiracy subjects. It is a good overview of several false events since 9-11
but one about ten minute segment discusses Sutherland "church shooting" beginning at 6:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO3T-vZ8u_A
The Conspiricy GuY #50
Gary King
Published on Nov 10, 2017
Jim Fetzer
It was interesting how the photo of Sutherland "shooter" has no ears, evidence of photoshopping, and bringing up the issue of whether Kelley was a totally created fictional person. Who knows.
The guy is now said to have a long history of criminal violent behavior and mental illness. In one way, that establishes a legend or history for Kelley being a real person, but it also could be a totally created legend pieced together to paint a certain picture of the guy to the public. Of course, as always, none of it fits together and makes even a lick of sense. Now every alternative news commentator is biting the bait and reacting to all these bits and pieces of Kelley's MSM-disclosed history.
My original hypothesis still stands that if this guy is a real person, he is a MK Ultra triggerable person and possible did go on some kind of a shooting spree, but after listening to this coverage by Dr. Fetzer, I feel that hypothesis looks much weaker. We are back to square one and do not even know if the photograph of Kelley is real or if Kelley is a real person or not.
I appreciate Dr. Fetzer showing what looks phoney about this Sutherland "shooting." Do not one hundred percent buy in to everything Dr. Fetzer says and I think lately he has gotten too loose with his throwing about the term "nobody died" as I think is contradicts his insistence on adhering to real "evidence", that is, what we can reasonably know from what information we can obtain about these events.
As a person who lives in central Texas and is very familiar with small towns in Texas because of former employment, I have never heard of Sutherland, Texas. So it is very telling that this relatively unheard of place was the place of this false event. It looks like THEY can have most control over events that are in large urban venues and in very small rural venues. Medium size cities and venues as for number of non-crisis actor people around appear to be hardest to control everything.
We don't need to focus on this particular event very much because our focus will soon be switched to the next false event or bombshell disclosure du jour.
Will the real Lee Harvey Kelley please stand up?
C'mon y'all, it ain't rocket surgery!
and now the building is being "conveniently" being torn down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horn
REMOVE all evidence, just like the 911 evidence.
This entire SCRIPT is a yet another HOAX and SETUP
This is how its done and there aren't enough brave patriots to take action against these tyrants!!Quote:
Originally Posted by StreetsOfGold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWyS_-ifcz0
Texas church shooting - We're being lied to!
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The government both left and right are in on this.
Here is Paul Joseph Watson accepting fully at face value the official mainstream media story of Sutherland event. He refocuses attention completely away from questions about the official story that many people naturally have. This is dishonest anti-free speech drivel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LryQey8mdu0
I know we are supposed to just forget about last week's false flag and move our focus to the latest one this week but looks like Sutherland thing was a complete fake hoax.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VqZryfNwqo
FOOTAGE FROM TEXAS NO Bullet holes
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Published on Nov 6, 2017
AT about 12:54 the videographer shows front of church with no holes in it.
This was kind of interesting to see what aftermath looks like.
With large numbers of news reporters and cameras everywhere, we are supposed to get the impression that something very big and very real happened there.
Very surreal. All superficial stuff. No look at building or ground to see evidence of all the gunshots. They keep everyone far away from where the action was supposed to have taken place.
chance of hoax is slim to none
1. they would have used a shooter with better background -- more to the agenda. chump guy, raysis, anti-sem....lots of better stories than crazy leftist air force guy
2. location is horrible -- no urban, or even suburban, cover for their lies
There’s NO FUCKING WAY those salt of the earth country folks would play along with a hoax. It’s insane to think they would.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheka.
I think we all agree we have zero real evidence of actual shootings and deaths.
All are free to come to conclusions based on zero evidence.
I choose to keep exposing zero evidence.
Think some, here ether need to get on their meds, or get on some.
But you are not alone, many here are just like you, = its called cluster fucking!
Sad !
;D
Dachsie, get off your dead ass and drive down and do an eyeball thingy. You live in or near Austin Right? I highly doubt tho maybe in time, due to the family's, you will have no video evidence.
Not sure, but if me, I would burn it to the ground and hold a service while it burns, then build again but not in the same foot print of the old building, that can be considered hollow ground. That dam church I bet is riddled with bullet holes.
I imagine the reception one would get if one went there and started asking questions about the *hoax* and ‘faked deaths’ would be very unpleasant.
No fucking shit . ya thunk..Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Feelings are running high because of very raw emotions and the pain
Deniers will I suspect will not be treated kindly, because of the same shared reality and pain.
One member lives less I suspect less than one hour driving time away.
Burn the church hold a service while it burns, (viking thing, history of the people living there and where they come from in Europe I suspect it will fit) then rebuild with shifted foundations, that church is shot up. I suspect a drive by bullet holes can be seeing on out side walls.
The original church I would conceder hollowed ground, Death is there, so turn the ground into something that rejoices life, with memory of the ones killed. So at least for generations that will come up later can remember if not understand.
But the ground itself , some kind of living (note living ) memorial.
Note: After the church is burnt down, take the ashes and bury them deep withing the foot print of the original building.
I have not seen anything I would call "faked deaths" so far. I see no deaths at all so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight rambler
Unpleasant reception in the locale or in our individual lives for truth seekers questioning the questionable is very old hat at this point. On its simplest level, it is called political correctness and the regime is most unpleasant and unreceptive to those who speak incorrectly. The suspicious deaths or silenced citizenry of the town locals connected with Sandy Hook were often how people people were treated who tried to poke around in Newtown and ask the locals a few questions.
The church building is to be demolished and the entry way that sustained 420 rounds of "gunfire" yet miraculously shows no hole or blemish whatsoever are two of the more major signs of zero evidence.
Veritas
Take a trip, you live in easy range to see if rue or not ,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dachsie
You will not I predict.. Or the same find an excuse not to do so. You are on record living near or in austan. Crayfish time I suspect!
For the record: I used to be stationed at berstrom when it was a TAC/SAC base, loved the area, loved the people, the bad was I35 and the traffic jambs which I suspect are still ingoing.
Texas hill people are the salt of the earth, along with they on the fertile low lands, lots of strong noetic types. Not far from there there was a place I used to travel near 200 miles to buy a bunch of their sausages and other foods,Edited: Some cheezes that you will kill for, nothing you will never see in a big box store, every month or so. Been many years since but I suspect not that much has changed, other than the the local kids want to be elswwerTe . To their parents sadness.
Are you a BGDAD type ? (blood guts death and distruction that it did not happen unless you see it with your own eyes) ? If so, sad
This forum is ate up with those types also.
Get off your dead ass and take the trip, but methinks you probably will not learn a dam thing.
Sad
Excuse spelling but seeing the forum now, I do not give a flying crap, my intent can be read.
this event is a good learning experience on how the 'hoax' declarations come to be - sit back and watch the hoaxists operate. suspect this one will cause some of us to more harshly scrutinize future hoaxist claims
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Originally Posted by cheka.
Oh, so now those of us who question an event are called "hoaxists." Interesting.
I ususally try to use the word "false event" but do resort to hoax now and then.
To me a "false event" can still involve killing real people at the event and often involve killing the loan nutter shooter.
This false event is not much different than the whole string of false events we have experienced over the last twenty years or longer and is no more or no less of a special learning experience than the others to see how anti-hoax declarations come to be -- sit back and watch the anti-"hoaxists" make up words and set up a dialectic. Setting forth credible ideas logically and discussing them reasonably without employing ad hominems but rather searching together for the best truth we can find is my goal.
I would like to see the anti-"hoaxists" bother to make some credible claims so that we hoaxists can have something worth scrutizing.
We have seen all the people of much larger towns than Sutherland Springs clam up in fear and in fact we discussed that very real phenomenon extensively for years on Dr. James Tracy's blog.
Shit woman, (Sorta think you are) just hit the jackpot, on labels.
Yes you are hehehe methinks you complain too much..
Peace
Get off ylr dead ass and take a short drive and see for yourself...other than that you and what you say is worthless. To most here other than patco. (warped mind supreme and agenda driven)
Grin!