interview with alleged victim of LA pedo operation, jump to 11 minute mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ZXWcF_g7k
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interview with alleged victim of LA pedo operation, jump to 11 minute mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ZXWcF_g7k
vlogger The Honeybee, who was recently doxed by a pro-pedo group she was targeting, has done several vids on the apparent pedo friendly YT vids, which get an extraordinary number of views, and suggestive comments. You'll have to browse her channel's titles,Quote:
Originally Posted by singular_me
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/HoneyBee/
https://www.youtube.com/user/Manifest143/videos
I've avoided posting about this recent G.Webb, J.Goodman, D.Acton, Lift the Vail & Co "controversy", coz it seems like a distraction at best, or psyop at worst. I've never trusted Lift the Vail; guy's just an overall weirdo. :|~
But with Lift the Vail's Nathan Stoltman being guest on a Renegade Broadcasting show tonight, it might be a good overview, if you care; coz AFAIC it doesn't affect Pizza-Pedo-Gate.
Circus Maximus: Nathan Stolpman – Lifting the Veil on Alt Media Actors (6-21-17)
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Nick talks to Nathan Stolpman from Lift the Veil about his involvement with and analysis of many of the characters surrounding the PizzaGate conspiracy as it developed, how certain narratives are pushed and youtubers are recruited, the unfolding saga of George Webb and Dave Acton, how this is being done to shut down real dissent, and much more.
This report by Jake Marfonios (? spelling last name) gives excellent summary of Bundy / Hammond Nevada / Oregon case and shows the connection between international child human trafficking group, AXJ, to CIA FBI and Bundy case.
Very interesting.
Jake certainly has named his channel well - These are the end times.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbCIc1oDVpE
^ yeah I watched that when it came out a few days ago. It appears Jake M is emulating G.Webb & Co's style; having traveled from NC to Hollywood CA, and doing multiple YT posts a day with updates. Jake even took on a partner yesterday, but kept him off camera.
I think I noted above here somewhere, the only 'flaw' I've noticed in Jake's work was a vid he produced a couple weeks ago, warning of (((mooozlem immigration & the "threat" of sharia law :o))). I commented, he needs to do a viddy on the talmudic noahide law which USA has had on the books since 1991, allowing for the beheading of Christians.
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It seems we're sort of in another "dry spell" WRT PIZZA-gate... most of the new stuff I seed coming on line is global PEDO-gate related.
There was the Scalise shooting last week, which it appears was an FF murder attempt, by a (now conveniently dead) shooter of dubious background, likely some kind of MK zombie. Then it looked like they were planning on finishing Scalise off at MedStar hospital where Seth Rich was ultimately murdered; but Trump sent a personal WH doc over to MedStar to oversee Scalise's care, and the (((JSM))) freaked out coz they were already tailoring the narrative prepping the public for Scalise's planned murder.
Multiple People Shot, Including House Majority Whip
but when you think about it, none of DT, Scalise, Sessions et al have directly addressed PIZZA-gate. All of their hopeful public pronouncements have been global PEDO-gate related... much like AJ's tact after being threatened. In fact, AJ's recent Megyn Kelly interview notably didn't touch on AJ's flip-floppy PIZZA-gate history, nor even PEDO-gate... after both AJ & MK had played key roles in the evolution of PIZZA-gate. :(??
Commented in that ^ Renegade show page, & at Stolpman's YT page:Quote:
Originally Posted by PatColo
When in Feb/March (?), Stolpman, JeffC, & Titus Frost (< main 3) rolled out their "Destroy David Seaman" campaign, I was sort of disgusted with them, as it appeared their real intent was getting a piece of Seaman's ~150K YT sub's, via attacking him… and meanwhile hurting the PG Truth movement.
The only "merit" their campaign really had, was criticizing how Seaman mixed his PG vids, with pitches for opening an account with that AU-based paper gold company… which Seaman didn't disclose, he made a commission on. He should've kept those two messages in separate vids appropriately titled, instead of mixing them in the same vids. Seaman quickly remedied that "sin" in the wake of the attack campaign on him.
The attackers' other main criticism was that Seaman didn't produce original research; only parroted the finding of others at VOAT & elsewhere, without accrediting them, if only by screen-names. I felt I could sort of forgive that "sin", given how Seaman was "moving the PG ball forward"– again, with his 150K YT sub's.
Oh, and the attackers tried to make big hay of Seaman's 10+ year old, out of print "creating internet buzz" book which they accused him of exercising wrt PG. Meanwhile, the attackers were hypocritically seeking to create their own buzz/exposure with their way-overblown attacks on him!
And now, Stolpman has carved out this clever new avenue for “creating buzz/exposure” for himself, with his current Webb/Acton-distraction campaign… even openly soliciting “Dave Acton” for a “right deal”, where Stolpman’s main desire was… increasing his YT sub’s & exposure!!
So I’ve never been impressed with Stolpman. Has he disclosed if he’s jewish? He looks it, and many names ending in ‘….man’ are indeed jewish. Plus, he acts it, with his preemptive attacks on many other PG Truthers as being “shills.” Project much, Nathan Stolpman?
also, I notice Stolpman's YT page for the show, is nearly an hour longer than Renegade's actual 2-hour show. So without having listened, I assume Stolpman's version includes plenty of his own 20:20-hindsight commentary.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y0AkyrDaBk4/h...hRsQ04Ac4Gl7Ig 2:52:22
#WebbGate: Lift the Veil on Renegade Broadcasting w/ Nick Spero aka Circus Maximus | George Webb
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There was a recent video, forgot on which channel, where George Webb, J Goodman and one other guy totalling 3 people being interviewed by the show host, and Webb said clearly that he himself and I think he said the interviewer were Jews. paraphrase ' we are both Jews ' This was about three weeks or a little more ago. After that show, I dropped anything to do with George Webb. I think Truth Warriors channel, Stew Webb, called out Webb as being Mossad and I think they said Webb's real last name is Sweigert. So I am not up at all on this latest phase, Webb/Acton-distraction campaign, of this spin-off crisis / controversy. The entire PizzaGate and now PedoGate show is being managed and moved forward by CIA/Mossad. Even all the financial / collapse / gold silver youtube channels are being managed in regard to PG topic and content.
I think the channel H A Goodman guy is the brother of the J Goodman guy in this controversy. I used to listen to H A show almost every day leading up to prez election as he was covering wikileaks very closely, but he quickly lost my viewership because it was clear he was not seeking truth and was on on the wrong team.
^ I heard Webb make a comment in one vid where he said, not only were he & Goodman jooz; but also he has ties to izzy, and that he's "old mossad" as opposed to the newer, more aggressive neo-cohen/likud mossad. Said he wished to see them roll back to "old mossad", who did FEWER FFs, & LESS human/drug/organ/pedo trafficking.
Sorry George; FEWER/LESS of those above-the-law state sponsored mafia atrocities, instigating wars for izzy & making everyones' lives more miserable, still isn't acceptable! :(
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Listening to the last hour of Lift Veil/Nathan Stolpman's version of that Renegade show; he comes on separately at around 1h 55m. He's giving a paranoid rant about how he's not crazy yada yada. Plus, a sympathy play about how he's victim of attacks, and one of his critics called his father (who he lives with) & complained about his YT/twitter provocateur activities; plus he's getting lawsuit threats. Says he's planning to leave his father's house so not to legally jeopardize him-- but, he can't move anywhere with a landlord coz landlord would be similarly threatened... so oh woe is him! :(
So I say, in light of his shit-stirring-for-clicks, & slandering so many YT/twitter people as "agents"; he's just receiving ^ his karma. :)
At this writing, YT reports his channel has 28,261 subscribers... let's see that # drop!! :rolleyes:
'Pizzagate' shooter sentenced: What to know about the Comet Ping Pong conspiracies
Published June 22, 2017 Fox News
Now Playing Hillary hits fakenews
The man who walked into Comet Ping Pong, a Washington, D.C., pizza shop, armed with an AR-15 assault weapon and a revolver to investigate internet rumors was sentenced to four years in prison Thursday.
Edgar Maddison Welch’s sentence is less than the 4 1/2 years prosecutors had requested, but much more than the 1 1/2 years Welch’s lawyers had pushed for.
Here’s a look at what led Welch to travel to the pizzeria and discharge his weapon.
Oct. 30, 2016
A Twitter account purporting to belong to Jewish attorney David Goldberg — which Buzzfeed calls a “white supremacy” account — claimed that emails from former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s aide Huma Abedin “point to a pedophile ring” — with Clinton “at the center.”
The Twitter account has been suspended.
As the theories go, Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, were allegedly involved with the operations of an international child sex slavery ring. After the publication of hacked emails from Clinton’s campaign manager, John Podesta, the theory expanded to include him.
HOW AN INTERNET CONSPIRACY LED A GUNMAN INTO A PIZZA PARLOR
Theorists purported that Podesta’s emails contained code language known to pedophiles.
Podesta has exchanged some emails with pizzeria owner James Alefantis, who has fundraising ties with Podesta and other Democrats.
The “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory picked up steam on Reddit and other websites, Time reported. It has been widely debunked.
Even still, Alefantis told Fox News that he and his business were the targets of threatening messages — online and over the phone.
Dec. 4, 2016
Welch walked into Comet Ping Pong armed with a knife, AR-15 assault weapon and a revolver. Welch said that he had driven to the pizzeria from Salisbury, N.C., in order to investigate online conspiracy theories of child sex slaves being held in the restaurant.
Welch fired his gun multiple times when he came upon a locked storage closet.
‘PIZZAGATE’ GUNMAN SAYS IN VIDEO HE’S STANDING UP FOR KIDS
After finding no children held against their will, Welch surrendered to police. He said “that he had read online that the Comet restaurant was harboring child sex slaves and that he wanted to see for himself if they were there,” according to the arrest affidavit.
“[Welch] stated that he was armed to help rescue them,” it said.
No one was injured in the shooting. However, a federal judge said Welch had “literally left psychological wreckage.”
The “Pizzagate” conspiracy theory eventually expanded to claim that Welch, the gunman, was really just a false-flag operation by the Clinton campaign to discredit Donald Trump, the president-elect at the time.
March 24, 2017
Welch pleaded guilty to interstate transportation of a firearm and assault with a dangerous weapon in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., the Associated Press reported.
June 2, 2017
In a letter filed with the court, Welch contended that his intent was never to harm anyone at Comet Ping Pong.
ANTI-LGBT EMONSTRATORS PICKET ‘PIZZAGATE’ RESTAURANT ON INAUGURATION DAY
He said he "came to D.C. with the intent of helping people I believed were in dire need of assistance, and to bring an end to a corruption that I truly felt was harming innocent lives."
"It was never my intention to harm or frighten innocent lives, but I realize now just how foolish and reckless my decision was," Welch wrote.
June 14, 2017
A cell phone video Welch recorded on the way to the Washington, D.C., pizzeria was released. In the video, Welch told his daughters that he loves them as he drove.
"I can't let you grow up in a world that's so corrupt by evil without at least standing up for you, for other children just like you," he said.
Welch added that he wants to protect people who cannot protect themselves.
^ very thoughtful of FAUX News to tell the sheeple what to think of Pizzagate :rolleyes: complete with their standard strawman fallacy re "Clintons were running a child sex ring out of a pizza shop"; plus their boilerplate antidote to their own fraudulent strawman: the flat, source-less line, "It has been widelyRE-BunkedDEbunked."
^ whoopsi daisy; I hadn't actually watched the MK/AJ interview, just a couple short clips. It appears they DID "do pizzagate." Predictably, it was the (((official Pizzagate re-bunking story))), with the (((Comet Shooter FF/hoax))) thrown in for good measure to demonstrate the (((DANGER of Fake News))).Quote:
AJ's recent Megyn Kelly interview notably didn't touch on AJ's flip-floppy PIZZA-gate history, nor even PEDO-gate... after both AJ & MK had played key roles in the evolution of PIZZA-gate. http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/s...20%2824%29.gif
Southern Drawl Dude has this short clip up,
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EmTbjJ-Yu0s/h...UgdonKTBYQ-Cag 0:56
Alex Jones, Megyn Kelly PIZZAGATE Hit Piece #PIZZAGATE
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and here's apparently the 17.xx min segment which NBC ultimately aired,
- Alex Jones Of 'Infowars,' Conspiracy Theories, And Trump Campaign (Full) | Megyn Kelly | NBC News NBC News 591,127 views
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-HzOqZeX3Yk/h...PVTo7U0L_Y7WmA
and here's something infowars has up, 30m:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkpNO675Beg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkpNO675Beg
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Published on Jun 15, 2017
Alex Jones has released recordings made during a pre-interview between himself and Megyn Kelly to set the record straight after the release of the highly edited promo for the NBC hosts upcoming hit piece.
I am liking the weekly general news updates from Jordan at Destroy the Illusion yt channel.
I hope he is the real deal, but all bets are off these days.
Jon Pedoesta -- "House intel panel plans to interview Podesta next week," It might be interesting to watch a Satanic filth baby murdering cannibal mouthing lie after lie to questioning, being fed answers through his skull bones directly from his personal demon guardian angels.
Show host says he will follow up on all these reports and he generally does.
All these hearings and testimonies in Congress are looking like very low-grade entertainment to me these days. All these congress creatures talk big and tough but nothing ever happens.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81p3jRVXGk4
6.23 - State Dept Still Investigating Clinton, Podesta to Testify, MSM Exposes CIA Drug Trafficking
Destroying The Illusion
Destroying The Illusion
Published on Jun 23, 2017
June 23rd WTF is going on update -
Today's sources:
FoxNews: "State Department probes Clinton handling of government emails, could pull her security clearance" - https://goo.gl/YP2y38
CNN: "First on CNN: House intel panel plans to interview Podesta next week, sources say" - https://goo.gl/FvSM6p
NPR: "In The Event Of Attack, Here's How The Government Plans 'To Save Itself' - https://goo.gl/Zh2ASv
Anonymous: "Shot Congressman Was Trying to Expose Pedophilia, Discussed in Podesta Emails" - https://goo.gl/s2rtPV
The Intercept: "The History Channel Is Finally Telling the Stunning Secret Story of the War on Drugs" - https://goo.gl/pD6Hst
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Let us continue to watch nothing happen.
^ yeah I've had Destroy the Illusion bookmarked, though I only watch a fraction of what he posts, all based on title/topics.
I'd heard the Pedo-sta hearing next week was going closed chamber/session (whatever they call it); meaning it would be opaque to public view/scrutiny. Shocker! :o
IOW, it'll be a bunch of SRA pedos, grilling their fellow "Buck" on how the hell his emails got hacked, & all working together to ensure their emails are properly locked down, so that this sort of satanic corruption eruption doesn't happen again!! :D
his channel's up too 28,295 subs now; gaining a net 34 sub's since I wrote that ^, or ~0.12%.... so that's what all his self-publicity stuntsmanship has gotten him at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatColo
HoneyBee just finished this interview, which I see she does weekly (Fri 2p ET)... big of her, coz the host Spike Timmons (channel) has all of 163 sub's, and last week's show with HoneyB has yielded all of.... 69 views! :o
advance this one to 8:10 to skip his overly long rock music opening ;)
- https://i.ytimg.com/vi/r1jD6Z9MgEA/h...5uvRqivd4gU6NQ 1:01:33
It's HoneyBee Friday! Join us as we discuss what she has been up to!!! :HTNWO
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Oh and guess what's a big part of their discussion? :)- https://i.ytimg.com/vi/J2-F5xsbRgU/h...r2wi6F0G6O5GKA 2:57
Lift the Veil we are calling you out!
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exactly if we dont stand for the kids we dont stand for much!
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BBC pedophile exposé ignores real victims, triggers social-media firestorm
Published time: 20 Jun, 2017
Although it is difficult to dispute the story's central message that individuals who have a sexual attraction to children 'need help,' attempting to label pedophilia as a 'sexual orientation' crossed the red line for many readers.
In a recent BBC article entitled, 'Paedophiles need help, not condemnation - I should know,' we are 'introduced' to an anonymous 60-something male who opens this teary-eyed treatise by proclaiming, "It’s a long time since I’ve described myself as a paedophile. Paedophilia is a disorder, a deeply distressing sexual orientation. For me, it's triggered by traumatic experiences in childhood."
Did you catch it? If you blinked you missed it. Like one of those clunky bills rammed through Congress on Christmas Eve that is 'sweetened' with all sorts of hidden 'riders,' the opening line of the article declares that pedophilia now ranks - alongside hetereosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality - as a "sexual orientation." A "distressing" one for the pedophile, no doubt, but a sexual orientation nevertheless. But that is simply wrong.
.......................... In fact, the expression "orientation" is used not once in the article, but on four separate occasions, making me suspect the entire purpose of this piece is to break ground for an entirely new social-engineering revolution in sexual mores, which will be, naturally, actively promoted by every (Western) media outlet on Planet Perversity.
It won't happen tomorrow, of course, and probably not even the day after, but if this BBC piece is any indication, then there are definite plans in the works to 'normalize' pedophilia in some not-so-distant dystopic future. In fact, pedophilia movements on both sides of the Atlantic have been attempting to go mainstream for many years now (For those who argue that such a social transformation could never succeed, ask yourself how many people just 10 years ago could have guessed there would be ‘After School Satan’ clubs popping up around God’s Country today?).
However, even more telling than the author describing pedophilia in terms of “sexual orientation” was the reference to the Liberal left's favorite term - "identification" - which really said it all for me................
Although one of Donald Trump’s first sweeps of his executive pen was to eradicate this absolute insanity, the ball was already put in motion and now there may be no stopping it.
Today, we see the terms "orientation" and "identification" being casually kicked around in an article on pedophilia, as a way to tenderize the mind of the masses, as it were, for what seems to be coming down the road.
Be forewarned, the ‘social justice warriors’ will not rest until every single cultural and social norm has been turned on its head. Every sacred institution will be challenged on the basis of an individual or group's perceived right to "identify and orientate" himself, herself or themselves to the lifestyle of their choice - deranged, degenerate or otherwise - even if it means breaking society's darkest taboos.
Those courageous enough to serve as the voice of reason in this age of ignorance will be chastised as intolerant ‘haters’ that don’t respect the lifestyle choices of the ‘victims,’ who will no longer be the minors and children, but those who would abuse them.
Judging by the torrent of condemnation hurled at this lamentable BBC piece, at least we know many people still have their wits and scruples about them. There is hope.
@Robert_Bridge
https://www.rt.com/op-edge/393259-bb...ed-help-story/
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kate perry sends a subliminal pedogate message, staged very likely
#Pizzagate 2014 Katy Perry Gives 10 Year Old Girl Pizza Pie At Concert While Wearing Pedophile Dress
Victurus Libertas VL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElgMxNupb1s
I am listening now to this so really do not understand the whole story.
It was all preplanned.
Webb and Acton are real brothers.
and I think Jason Goodman and H.A. Goodman are brothers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cytsLlEOZyA
Case Study Closed on George Webb Sweigert. MOSSAD-Periscope-Crowdsource PSYOP (Free Crowdsourcing)
Bravo Von Muller
Bravo Von Muller
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The Final Chapter of the Case Study on George Webb Sweigert; Case Closed. Who are the players in this PSYOP ? Periscope Bernstein and Wasserman, Lee Stranahan, Jason Goodman, Trish, Dave "Acton" Sweigert, George Webb Sweigert, Defango, (Assange ?). MO-MOSSAD-SOP Free Crowdsourcing and Youtube Crowdsource agenda to figure out the puzzle. Who Killed Seth Rich ? Or where is he ?
^ I basically hope the Webb/Acton/Goodman/Defango/Stolpman noise goes away asap. I'll make a point of making it go away from my little world, at least. I was never a huge WebbCo, nor Stolpman (lift the veil) follower anyway, so it'll be little to no adjustment for me. As HoneyBee replied to a comment today,
My handler? What kool-aid has this guy been feeding you people? All research and videos should be united to expose elite corruption, murderous coverups, and child sex trafficking... anything else is a dramatic distraction to divide and conquer.
sounds about right. :)
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Drawl put this one up today... listen to the holier than thou attitude on this NM governor woman; and how she keeps reciting Peets-Ah! It's hard to see the boy-love pedo symbols on the socks in the video; poor contrast against their background color, but go full screen & pause it, max display brightness... in fact, the thumbnail below might be the easiest way to see them:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/mHC9AeBUKO0/h...jCozJNyOJrBRWg 9:38
Rep. Senator Caught In "Pizza" Party, Cops Dispatched. (AUDIO) #PIZZAGATE #PEDOGATE
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Referring to the Perry video..... I wonder if Sals knows about the pizza connection? I notice that like Comet, Sals sells pizza sauce.
I find the selling of your special recipe sauce, the thing that makes people go to your restaurant and buy your product is a bit weird. It would be like KFC selling their 11 secret herbs and spices mix. I hadn't heard of a pizza restaurant selling their sauce before pizzagate.
Here is a recent experience I had in observing something very wrong with the thesis and general thinking of Paul Craig Roberts in regard to this article...
The US Criminal “Justice System” is Devoid of Justice
June 22, 2017 | C
The US Criminal “Justice System” is Devoid of Justice
Paul Craig Roberts
In 1992 Fran and Dan Keller were convicted despite the absence of any evidence of raping a 3-year old, a crime that never occurred. Among the absurd charges was the transport of children to Mexico to be raped by military officials. The Kellers spent 21 years in prison before finally being exonerated by a conviction integrity unit that found no credible evidence for the conviction.
This kind of ridiculous conviction plagued child care providers during the 1980s and into the 1990s. The Amirault family who operated the Fells Acres Day Care Center in Massachusetts were ruined. The Massachusettes supreme court judge who kept the Amiraults in prison despite the completely obvious fabricated case is today a Harvard University law professor. In Wenatchee, Washington, scores of people were ruined by insane allegations of a church practicing Satanic Sex Rituals on children. There was the Little Rascals Day Care case in North Carolina, the McMartin child care case in California, and many others. Few remember that President Bill Clinton’s attorney general, Janet Reno, rose to name recognition based on false convictions from child abuse witch hunts.
The insanity spread wider. Young women with emotional problems were told by “therapists” that they had been raped by their fathers, grandfathers, uncles, and brothers. Families everywhere were blown apart by wild charges.
“Child advocates” insisted that all male heterosexuals were suspect as child rapists. There was no such thing as a real trial, just a condemnation. Allegations alone destroyed people.
It spread into “wife rape.” States passed “wife rape” laws, and any wife could get rid of a husband by accusing him of rape. I investigated and wrote about the case of Wm. Strong. He was about to divorce his wife for her infidelity, but she struck first with a rape charge. Strong was the victim of wife rape law. His parole appeal is routinely turned down because of “the serious nature of your offense.” I myself have written to the Virginia Parole Board on several occasions pointing out that I covered the story and Strong was framed on false charges by his wife who outsmarted him. But the Virginia Parole Board has no interest in any evidence. The Parole Board exists for the purpose of protecting the system, not for admitting mistakes.
I wrote about many of the child care cases. Only in the Wenatchee case did facts that I helped to marshall result in the cases being overturned. During the entire process I was attacked by the local newspaper and radio station. Neither were interested in any facts. They knew the church was guilty. Period.
Evidence simply was not important. Juries were ramrodded by hysteria conjured up by “child advocates,” newspapers and TV reports.
Consider the case of Alabama Governor Don Siegelman. He was framed by Republican US attorneys and Republican federal judges. A normal everyday political contribution was turned into an influence-selling case. In Siegelman’s case, even the intervention of 113 former state attorneys general led by New York attorney general Robert Abrams, who called Siegelman’s frameup an “enormous scandal,” could not prevent Gov. Siegelman from being sent to prison by corrupt Republicans.
The Republican federal judge who presided over the attrocity was subsequently arrested for beating his wife bloody in an Atlanta hotel and got off. Of course.
In America only the innocent go to prison.
Americans do not understand this. They have been deceived by “law and order conservatives” that liberal judges always let the criminals off and that any criminals that somehow are sent to prison despite the libeal judges are rescued from jail by liberal parole boards.
The fact of the matter is that only 3% of felony cases go to trial, and in these cases prosecutors are able to bribe and to pay witnesses for false testimony against the accused and to withhold exculpatory evidence that would clear the defendant of the charges. In other words, conviction regardless of the evidence is almost always obtained.
In the other 97% of the cases, the defendant’s attorney negotiates with the prosecutor a ficticious charge to which the accused will plead guilty in exchange for dropping the more serious charge for which the accused was arrested. The attorney knows that to defend against even a false charge is unlikely to be successful and that the accused will draw a longer sentence from going to trial than from agreeing to a lesser charge in a plea bargain. Both prosecutor and judge are grateful, because it saves both from days, even weeks, of court time, thus keeping the judge’s case load lighter and permitting the prosecutor many more convictions with which to embellish his record. A week of plea bargains can produce many times the convictions of a week in court dealing with one case. The fewer cases the judge has to study and to apply his understanding of the law, the better for the judge.
As only 3% of cases go to trial, the police evidence is seldom tested. The police know this. One result is that it is much easier for the police to pickup someone who had committed a similar crime in the past and charge him, than to go to the trouble of solving the crime by investigating it. Indeed, the police are so out of touch with neighborhoods, compared to bygone days when police walked their beats and knew the population, and crimes appear so random, that many crimes simply can’t be investigated. Much easier to pick up someone with a record and charge them. This practice explains the high recidivism rates. Once convicted, they will convict you again. It is how crimes are “solved.”
Don Siegelman was probably the best governor Alabama ever had. He had to be good in order to be elected as a Democrat in a Republican state. The fact that President Obama, who had the support of 113 state attorneys general in behalf of Siegelman, did not lift a finger to have the Justice Department look into Siegelman’s frameup or use his pen to sign a pardon demonstrates that an ordinary citizen has no chance whatsoever. When a prominent governor can be framed, the fate of a single mom or a black man is sealed when they are arrested.
In the “American criminal justice system” justice is totally absent. There is no such thing as justice in America.
The criminalization of US citizens by the Injustice System is now one of America’s largest industries. Prisons have been privatized, and their inmates comprise cheap labor for Apple Computer and defense industries among many others. The United States of America not only has the highest percentage of its population in prison, it has the highest absolute number, substantially higher than “authoritarian China,” a country whose population is FOUR TIMES LARGER than the US but a country with fewer people in prison.
That should tell Americans something. But they are too brainwashed to see it. The morons rush to the defense of the police, and they praise prosecutors for their wrongful convictions. In America, to be accused is to be guilty. Not even President Trump is safe from being falsely convicted by false charges and driven from office.
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I wrote a comment to him about this article as follows.
I appreciate very much your fine article, The US Criminal “Justice System” is Devoid of Justice. I agree wholeheartedly with the large part of what you wrote. I hope that President Trump will try to get a pardon for Mr. Seigelman. I do not have even a small clue as to why the State Department set him up, but I would not doubt that it is related to the bribery /blackmail /extortion grid which is our U.S. political scene.
However, I take issue with these words. \"This kind of ridiculous conviction plagued child care providers during the 1980s and into the 1990s. The Amirault family who operated the Fells Acres Day Care Center in Massachusetts were ruined. The Massachusettes supreme court judge who kept the Amiraults in prison despite the completely obvious fabricated case is today a Harvard University law professor. In Wenatchee, Washington, scores of people were ruined by insane allegations of a church practicing Satanic Sex Rituals on children. There was the Little Rascals Day Care case in North Carolina, the McMartin child care case in California, and many others. Few remember that President Bill Clinton’s attorney general, Janet Reno, rose to name recognition based on false convictions from child abuse witch hunts. \" \"ridiculous conviction\" \"completely obvious fabricated case\" \"insane allegations of a church practicing Satanic Sex Rituals on children.\" \"false convictions from child abuse witch hunts\"
Those are not objective scholarly observations to support your position. I think your position would be better supported by the many objective strong arguments that I believe exist. You do not seem to understand that child abuse, pedophilia on babies and very young children, and Satanic Sex Rituals, \"spirit cooking\" and Pedoesta brothers\' lifestyle with the rich and famous of D.C. and NYC top politicos has been going on in our nation for over half a century, and really much longer.
I remember listening to Dr. Stan Monteith on his radio show doing multiple interviews of people from Wenatchee who had familiarity with the case you mentioned. There was a blackmail and extortion scheme connected to sex abuse and murder of very young children and the highest elected and appointed officials of Wenatchee government were involved, not simply one church. Those interviews strike me as even more credible today than they did to me back then over 15 years ago.
The murder of children in Satanic rituals is very old and very real. It is not insane, fabricated, ridiculous or false. You do not seem to recognize that, and that is what disappoints me about your article. There can be no return of the rule of law and a just Justice System until God almighty drains the pedophile /Satanic, snuff film producing, murderous swamp that engulfs all aspects of the top levels of our government as well as our local governmental structures.
Christus vicet. Christus regnat. Christus imperat.
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He replied to me with a curt email which stated.
"my case is supported by the overturning eventually of all of the cases"
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I wrote back to him thus... our last communication
""my case is supported by the overturning eventually of all of the cases"
I think this is close to the "begging the question" fallacy.
providing what is essentially the conclusion of the argument as a premise
You are better than that. "
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This is an example of how at the very least, there are many bright "conservative" heads in the sand regarding the pervasiveness of the SRA and pedophilia is in our nation. To his credit, Dr. Stan Monteith, in many many of his daily radio program over 25 years broached these specific cases mentioned in this article, and these dark topics generally, honestly and objectively as no one else would.
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Here is truly fine analysis of this congressional, "closed-door" * interview of Pedoesta.
* I could not find the legal term for a "closed-door" hearing but the term "closed-door" seems to be universally used these days in describing congressional hearings. It means "a trial or other hearing that is not open to the public." I do not know if Pedoesta will be under oath during that closed-door hearing. Probably not. Reminds me of Dubya and Cheney closed-door hearing regarding 9-11.
Only aspect I may have a slightly different take on would be that this interview is a "classic honey trap."
We shall see if this works toward truth and justice or if this further protects the "Deep state."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK2lt0xBgEI
John Podesta to be questioned by Congressional Russia probe next week
The Outer Light
The Outer Light
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Published on Jun 24, 2017
Congressional investigations into alleged Russian meddling in the 2016 election will question Hillary Clinton’s former presidential campaign chairman, John Podesta, next week — in addition to experts on Kremlin interference in recent and future European elections.
I can't figure out who/what Sals is? I posted that Perry/concert/pizza vid here a couple months back, didn't watch again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass
As to selling their special Comet tomato/pizza sauce, I cringe to think what a lab analysis would find lurking in there... I mean, besides human blood cells.... that's already given! some other variety of Soylent Green, perhaps?
And off hand, I can't think of any restaurants who sell their key product like that either.... there's a few "celebrity chefs" who have their signature products on store shelves.... but a 1-outlet (non-chain/franchise) "Mom & Pop" family/neighborhood pizza joint? Consider the specialized resources which must go into that, the vacuum sealed jars, etc! :(??
Don't even get me started on Comet's "infant onesie", in your choice of colors: BLACK, BLACK, or BLACK... :rolleyes:
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Liz Crokin 6/21 interview; nice that her interviews aren't 90/whatever % redundant, coz she's full of different stories from her years of hob-nobbing with satanic circles.
she's on here between about 20m - 1h 21m:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_IwnhzlOIKU/h...Ox5cydSjqwC5BA 1:58:57
Liz Crokin • The Scott Helmer Show - 06.21.17
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- 2 days ago
Drawl:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lJIk1UJpNik/h...FDB_R5EpY385ug 4:34
Political Pizza Party On The Ballot? #PIZZAGATE
- 491 views
- 3 hours ago
Jake M, presently still partyin' hardy with the (((hollywood set))), :D
I've watched the 2nd one, but not the first re SF-- tis next in my queue; really "hits home", that one! :o
- https://i.ytimg.com/vi/W5mqJqZblM4/h...oUE_OBg51BuT2A 44:05
Satan In San Francisco Part 16 #PizzaGate
- 1,386 views
- 1 hour ago
- https://i.ytimg.com/vi/5vdLmQO0uDo/h...0yPDUm0uy1Lurw 33:34
How Hollywood Helps The Globalists Anti-family Agenda - part 15 - #PizzaGate
- 2,372 views
- 19 hours ago
I didn't watch this video, but picked up this search link from the comments
]https://yt3.ggpht.com/-Pw2GGc4ADhU/A...ffff/photo.jpgRobert SteelePence pedophilia YouTubes (a fraction of what is available for other search terms) are here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Mike+Pence+pedophile+tory
1 day ago (edited)•7
http://youtu.be/5MoVDhecVtE
https://youtu.be/5MoVDhecVtE
Had a hard time choosing one of the hits on this...
]Robert Steele
Pence pedophilia YouTubes (a fraction of what is available for other search terms) are here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...e+tory
But I chose this one as I have always very much liked Rick Wiles and haven't heard from him in a very long time...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwshLk_T8KA
Wiles tells about a Hillary Wikileaks email where she tweets to or about Michael Flynn's son wherein she says
"what goes around Comets around" indicating what happened to General Flynn was payback for exposing the D.C. pedophile activities. Apparently Flynn did get that list of names of D C pedophiles or it sure looks that way, and Flynn may well have doing some serious investigation of D C pedophile activities.
Have not listened to whole video yet but will try because am trying to spend a little time watching an old movie to give myself a little brain and soul vacation from this subject
One unfortunate phrase by Rick Wiles was the strawman "running a pedophile ring out of Comet Pizza" but even the better commentators often do not seem to understand how deep this rabbit hole goes.
Our Interesting Times With Timothy Kelly 2017.06.25
Andy Nowicki on Creepy Kidvids and Mind Control
Andy Nowicki returns to Our Interesting Times to share his thoughts on the numerous creepy Youtube videos that appear to be directed at young children but are weird, perverse and inappropriate. We talk about how these videos are part of a disturbing pattern in children's programming and how they may be part of a corporate agenda to assault innocence
Mp3 https://tkelly6785757.podomatic.com/...8_56-07_00.mp3
I do not know if this kind of a click bait title by Zublick or if there really is new "evidence" just "unsealed." I did not watch the whole video because he said it would "turn your stomach" and I just cannot listen to this really dark stuff. It sounded like if it is related to the content of the emails leaked by probably Seth Rich via Wikileaks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmU2ltTdNWw
REAKING: Damning Podesta PizzaGate Evidence Unsealed
David Zublick Channel
David Zublick Channel
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Published on Jun 26, 2017
The House intelligence committee this week plans to interview John Podesta, Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign chairman whose hacked email account became central to Russian meddling in the US election last year. But will they question him about the murder of Seth Rich? Will they ask him about he and his brother Tony's possible involvement in a child sex trafficking ring? Will they ask him about their possible connection to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann? Will they ask him about the disturbing audio of someone who sounds like John Podesta abusing a child? David Zublick unseals the horrible truth in this special report!
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^ Utter, shameless clickbait from Zublick. Takes him 16.xx mins of buildup, overviewing a bunch of long-since-known history of the pedo-sta bro's, McCann case & so on; before he "unveils" :rolleyes:, what he forewarns: Some of us may have already heard before :rolleyes::rolleyes:, then.... drumroll.... it's the hopelessly inconclusive "John Pedo-sta abusing a child" audio (& so-called 'video').Quote:
Originally Posted by Dachsie
Geraldo & Al Capone's vault, anyone?
Rachael Madow & Trump's tax returns, anyone?
I killed Zublick's clickbait at 16:xx; total deception... >:(
if I had to hear him say, "Ho-RRRRR-ific!!" one more time, I'd've had to hunt him down... >:(>:(
that guy generally does a very good job, will watch later though
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Satan In San Francisco Part 16 #PizzaGate
End Times News Report
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5mqJqZblM4
HBO documentary about the very early sex abuse claims against priests, what started it all... the summary is in spanish although the doc is in english, I have no time right now to watch it. I'd download it if I were you.
Mea maxima culpa Silence in the house of God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQv8um9YC1o
"The Final Chapter of the Case Study on George Webb Sweigert; Case Closed. Who are the players in this PSYOP ? Periscope Bernstein and Wasserman, Lee Stranahan, Jason Goodman, Trish, Dave "Acton" Sweigert, George Webb Sweigert, Defango, (Assange ?). MO-MOSSAD-SOP Free Crowdsourcing and Youtube Crowdsource agenda to figure out the puzzle. Who Killed Seth Rich ? Or where is he ? "
Was trying to see this forum's references to defango and found above reference.
Do not know anything about defango guy and but ran across this live show interview of David Seaman by defango on the degando Youtube channel.
The first 35 minutes, after which it seemed it degenerated into silliness so did not listen, contained some good comments by Seaman, who I have pretty much stopped following for last few weeks.
The reason I say Seaman made some good comments because he again got back to Wikileaks emails and PizzaGate.
Whatever we find out about Assange and Wikileaks and all these other people and the games they play, we must keep focusing on the validity of the Pedoesta et al. emails. Their content is real and warranting of investigation. Another thing Seaman said is that some day somebody will make the connections to nail the top PizzaGate operatives, and that will happen simply because of the way the Internet works. That sounded true to me. But hey, THEY may decide to take down the Internet before they let people reach that level of truth about the worldwide pedo filth. It has come to my mind a few times lately that THEY are trying to close down the social networking sites and YouTube and other free speech video platforms. They are attempting to do this in soft ways now meaning they will get people to voluntarily withdraw viewership but if anyone gets too close to core truth of Pizza and Pedo Gates, they could just zap down the whole Internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C8vna0PdhI
Cardinal George Pell says he is taking a leave of absence as the Vatican's finance czar ... enough said
ps: didnt watch the Loss of Faith vid yet, but the first 3mins (segment) are pretty damning
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Cardinal George Pell: Vatican official charged with multiple child sexual offense
29 June 2017 GMT
Cardinal George Pell, Australia’s most senior Catholic and the third-ranking official in the Vatican, has been charged with multiple sexual offences by police.
The charges were served on Pell’s legal representatives in Melbourne on Thursday and they have been lodged also at Melbourne magistrates court. He has been ordered to appear at the court on 18 July.
“Cardinal Pell is facing multiple charges … and there are multiple complainants,” Victoria police’s deputy commissioner Shane Patton said. The charges were “historical sexual assault offences”.
In a statement released by the Catholic archdiocese of Sydney 90 minutes after the charges were announced, Pell announced he would “return to Australia, as soon as possible, to clear his name”.
Pell is the highest-ranking Vatican official to be charged in the Catholic church’s long-running sexual abuse scandal.’
............... n a statement released by the Catholic archdiocese of Sydney 90 minutes after the charges were announced, Pell announced he would “return to Australia, as soon as possible, to clear his name”.
Pell is the highest-ranking Vatican official to be charged in the Catholic church’s long-running sexual abuse scandal.
Pell’s statement, issued at 4.30am Rome time, said: “Although it is still in the early hours of the morning in Rome, Cardinal George Pell has been informed of the decision and action of Victoria police. He has again strenuously denied all allegations.
“Cardinal Pell will return to Australia, as soon as possible, to clear his name following advice and approval by his doctors who will also advise on his travel arrangements........
Last year, citing ill health, Pell declined to return to Australia to give evidence to the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse in person last year and instead gave evidence by videolink from Rome.
The royal commission, ordered by then-Australian prime minister Julia Gillard in 2012 and formed in 2013, is due to deliver its final report by 15 December.
In February the Australian Senate called on the cardinal to return home “to assist the Victorian police and office of public prosecutions with their investigation into these matters”.
Pell dismissed the parliamentary resolution as “an interference on the part of the Senate in the due process of the Victoria police investigation”............
more
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...exual-offences
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Australian police have not released a detailed list of charges against Pell and didn't disclose any information about alleged victims, saying only that there were multiple charges and "multiple complainants."
Pell said he had been the victim of "relentless character assassination," as he held a news conference early Thursday in Rome to rebut the allegations.
"I'm innocent of these charges, they are false," Pell said. "The whole idea of sexual abuse is abhorrent to me."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/28/asia/c...lia/index.html
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The Outer Light
Published on Jun 28, 2017
Cardinal George Pell, Australia's highest ranking Catholic, has been charged with historical offences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azgo9NNMqno
Cardinal George Pell charged with at least 3 serious sex offences
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9BcAZXrm4M
THE LIES OF GEORGE PELL: Loss of Faith - 60 minutes
Published on Mar 24, 2013
(12min segment)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajWT4BERoHc
Losing Faith: Abuse, Cover-Up and the Catholic Church with Fr. Thomas Doyle
487,994 views
A former Vatican insider shares details of the sex-abuse epidemic. Having reached extraordinary heights in the Catholic Church and served in the Vatican embassy with the sexual abuse epidemic, Fr. Thomas Doyle turned away from the religious order in response to the spiraling and far-reaching cover-up. Privy to some of the most sensitive dealings of the church, Fr. Thomas provides us with a very rare perspective on the abuse, response and cultural framework that allowed it to happen and continues to minimize the impact on the victims. Fr. Thomas names names as to who he feels are directly responsible, and shares with us how the sordid affair has changed his own spiritual relationship to the church.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7Th6xo9vxM
Why do you post this ^ in pizzagate thread Goldie? It is quite far away from Washington. If anything it is worthy of its own thread...
the story of the dutch banker invited to rituals is in this thread too, and also several UK investigations... world pedogate, all elites are connected. It is not the first one I post about vatican pedo scandals.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neuro
So Cardinal Pell from Australia is part of pizzagate? Did he go to Comet Pizza? Does he know the Podesta brothers?Quote:
Originally Posted by singular_me
scan through the thread... pizzagate and pedogate have merged quite many pages ago.
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Pope Francis offers support to Cardinal George Pell over historic child sex offence charges - as insider claims Australia's most senior Catholic will NOT return to the Vatican
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...e-charges.html
Pretty impressive feat, Jordan/Destroy Illusion having started his channel in Feb '17; with nearly all vids of his youthful looking self playing professor in front of his whiteboard; & he just cracked 30K sub's. :o I hate to be a stick in the mud if his channel growth is all organic, but I have heard of "buying subs", though I know nothing more of the details about this; IE is this a commercial service like those "social media astroturfing" services? Also, do they commit to opening/watching/liking/etc his vids, puffing up the view counts? Or they stop at sub'ing? His view counts are also quite high, sometimes exceeding his subs #.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dachsie
This vid indicates he's quite ambitious, envisioning a member's website, and his own health retreat ~3 years down the road. So, guessing he's upper middle class, having had the interest & funds & leisure time to get up to speed on the breadth of topics he discusses; so I could imagine him justifying throwing some $ at "priming his YT channel pump" so as not to have to wait around 1++ years to get that kind of subs organically. 3-4 weeks ago, he scored an interview with "Ex-CIA" Robert D. Steele, who many twoofers incl myself, have suspicions about!
But hey if his channel's success is all honest, congrats to Jordan. :)
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JMN2uWdknac/h...lo8IfYK4IyBORw 16:43
30K Subs. Here's The Plan.
- 11,134 views
- 2 days ago
Schitzopath Nathan Stolpman, who I know I was going to ignore but alas it's too tabloid during this slow news time; his sub's are virtually unchanged since ~1.5 weeks ago (28,264 now) when his Webb/Acton/Defango publicity stunt was climaxing. Seaman put up a 47 min vid dedicated to bashing Nate & crowd-attacking him... but me fears Seaman 'took the bait' by giving Nate any notoriety at all.
Titus F has several recent live streams & an interview with UK's Echo Truths; most I haven't watched; I'll just link to his channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDH...nN1LVjQ/videos
Random Ryan:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8wtHdIVEKV0/h...SAMzju4RC3bV7g 9:19
Pedogate/Pizzagate logical conclusion of the FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
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- 6 hours ago
Almost every P*Gate vlogger I follow has something up about the Vatican finance dude Pell and his pedo indictment; tip of the Vatican PedoGate iceberg. :rolleyes:
Common Sense, on Pope standing by the pedo finance cardinal:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aZ7Bk5ZazgQ/h...0z82vs5_CUMRig 4:01
The Pope Is Defending the Undefendable-Shame
- 2,190 views
- 8 hours ago
Common Sense again; hope we can expect this AU 60 Minutes segment to appear on YT, assuming it's really brand new. Recall they did at least one pedo segment before, seems it focused on some Catholic boys' boarding school:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dO9vYHIMvu8/h...kLF8MFnFr8uWAA 4:25
Australia's 60 Minutes Are Reporting On VIP Networks Related to Heinous Criminality
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- 1 day ago
"The Outer Light" channel has some interesting vids up lately, incl a couple on the creepy YT mickey mouse/spiderman cartoons, which Tim Kelly recently did a show on with guest Andy Nowicki.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnr...qo3QW-Q/videos
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Almost every P*Gate vlogger I follow has something up about the Vatican finance dude Pell and his pedo indictment; tip of the Vatican PedoGate iceberg.
Common Sense, on Pope standing by the pedo finance cardinal:"
Was going to post on this a couple a days ago but when I listened to one of the recent videos it seems the indictment stems from a 40 year ago incident of two boys, now grown men, who claimed Pell touched them inappropriately or the story went something like that. So why wait 40 years. The feeding frenzy of indictments on Catholic clergy happened about 10 years ago so these two fellas should have gotten in on the action back then. So this leads me to believe this indictment is part of some bigger agenda and serves some higher purpose as to its timing now.
The whole Catholic pedo thing has been infiltrated by the Deep State operatives and Cass Sunstein droppings for psychological operations and strategic perception management. Catholic clergy don't have a monopoly on this institutionalized mortal sin . Here is a post on this subject by a Catholic on Fitzpatrick's site where Michael Hoffman of revisionisthistory.org, another Catholic, whatever that means these days, is being negatively criticized.
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Media anti-Catholic narratives with an endless shelf life
by Timothy Fitzpatrick
A refutation of Michael Hoffman II
By Jude Duffy
June 29, 2017 Anno Domini
Michael Hoffman II says my comments about him posted on an article published on Henry Makow's site are calculated to harm his “reputation as a historian”. This is provably false. Far from being “calculated”, my comments were originally a private reply to a woman who wrote to Henry taking issue with my passing reference, in another Makow piece, to Mr. Hoffman as anti-Catholic. This woman challenged me to substantiate my description of Mr. Hoffman and I did so. Henry asked me if he could publish this private reply on his site, and I agreed. So, no calculation.
However, since Mr Hoffman raises the subject, if he wishes to rebut slurs, real or imagined, on his historiographical credibility, no one is stopping him presenting all his formal academic qualifications in this discipline.
Incidentally, my original passing comment about Hoffman (and other alternative media types such as David Icke) alluded to their penchant for uncritically recycling any and all negative narratives the corporate media serve up about the Catholic Church—even though they urge their followers to treat the same media's narratives about most other issues with contempt. Hoffman in his counter-attack has made no effort to refute this criticism.
Nor has he addressed my point about why he condones the media's unrelenting efforts to portray clerical sexual abuse of minors as a uniquely Catholic crime. This co-ordinated hate campaign is one of the great media scandals of our time (as some Protestants and even some atheists have acknowledged), yet Hoffman promotes it very enthusiastically in his writings.
Only a few days ago, an item appeared on British Sky News relating to Peter Ball—former Anglican bishop and close friend of the heir to the British throne, Prince Charles—who has been convicted of multiple counts of sexual abuse of minors. The report stated that the former head of the Church of England, Archbishop of Canterbury George Carey, had been ordered by the current Archbishop of Canterbuy, Justin Welby, to cut all formal ties with the Church of England, because of his role in covering up the crimes of Bishop Ball.
In addition to being the former head of the worldwide Anglican Communion, Carey sits in the British House of Lords and is still a prominent figure in British public life, so this was by any standards a huge story. If it had related to a former Catholic bishop found guilty of sexual abuse, and a former head of the Catholic Church in England found to have covered up his crimes, it would have made front-page news, not just in the U.K. but also around the world. The ultra-Zionist New York Times would have devoted endless column inches to it, and the usual oligarch-funded and directed cultural Marxist groups would have staged noisy protests outside Westminster Catholic Cathedral.
Even the self-styled traditionalist Catholic movement would have jumped on the bandwagon, showering the corporate media with sycophantic garlands for "exposing the sickening corruption at the heart of the post-conciliar Church".
Yet not only was this story not the main headline on Sky News, it didn't even merit its own report from a religious affairs or legal affairs correspondent.
Furthermore, Sky News chose to downplay Peter Ball's crimes by referring to them as the 'abuse of young men', when the victims were in fact teenage boys. Over 80 per cent of the victims of Catholic clerics convicted of sexual abuse were in the same age range as Ball's victims (or the ones he has been convicted of - he has also been accused of abusing younger children). Yet the media invariably refer to Catholic clerical abuse of teenagers as 'paedophilia', 'child abuse', or the 'rape of children'.
Needless to say, and regardless of the culprit, there can be no question of minimising the horror of the crime of homosexual abuse of teenagers, but the anti-Catholic vendetta of the media is discernible even in the different language corporate presstitutes use to describe equivalent crimes—depending on the religious denomination of the perpetrator.
Underscoring this vendetta, the Daily Mail, a vile pornographic propaganda organ of the British-Masonic establishment, in its report on the Ball scandal, repeatedly referred to Bishop Ball as a 'priest', a term that in Britain usually denotes members of the Catholic clergy.
Mr. Hoffman of course never has anything to say about this whitewashing of the crimes of Protestant clergy, because, quite demonstrably, he shares the Zionist media's hatred of the Catholic Church.
He repeatedly insists it is only the post-Renaissance Church he objects to, but unless he is exceedingly dense, he must know that the Catholic Church has never held that her divinely guaranteed indefectibility would run out after a given period of history—quite the reverse. If the Church is not indefectible now, she has never been indefectible. And if she had never been indefectible, she would have been as much a fraud in the Middle Ages as she is now—according to Mr. Hoffman's logic. He really must choose.
Moreover, Mr. Hoffman once again refuses to answer the crucial question as to what religious authority he deems worthy of obedience in the here and now. Does he believe that in today's world every Christian must decide for himself on the great moral issues of our time? That is the definition of Protestantism—and liberalism
Hoffman challenges me to substantiate my claim that he admires Cromwell. This is extraordinary. In his writings he has repeatedly sought to downplay the Judaizing tendencies of Cromwell and the Puritans. Indeed, to read much of what he writes on this subject, one could be forgiven for assuming that the Jacobites had triumphed in the religious and political conflicts of 17th century Britain (see for example one of his most recent pieces on this subject 'The Great Divide' - May 2. 2017).
One doesn't have to be a fan of the Stuarts (I'm not) to recognise the utter absurdity of placing the blame for Britain's emergence as a usurious capitalist superpower on that dynasty—akin to blaming the Romanovs for the ills of the Soviet Union. Quite simply, Catholics were a defeated and persecuted minority in the days when usurious capitalism became the dominant economic system throughout the U.K. and its colonies.
If British Protestants had the aversion to usury that Hoffman attributes to them, they had ample opportunity to combat this vice from a position of enormous strength, as they held uncontested power in Britain and its possessions throughout the late 17th century, the 18th century, and the 19th century. As it was, usurious capitalism went from strength to strength in the era of Protestant hegemony.
The United Kingdom has never had a Catholic Prime Minister and hasn't had a Catholic monarch since the days of the Stuarts. The United States only got its first Catholic President in 1960, and he was only deemed a worthy candidate when he promised not to let his faith govern his political decisions.
And he got shot.
The incontestable fact is that Protestants were 'early adopters' of usurious capitalism. Many of the founders of the Bank of England were Huguenots—as was its first governor Sir John Houblon. Even in the predominantly Catholic countries of France and Italy, Protestants dominated usurious banking—something their religious descendants still acknowledge today.
The same applies, incidentally, to Freemasonry. Hoffman dismisses the many papal condemnations of Freemasonry as a smokescreen to hide the real agenda of the "Romanists", just as he dismisses papal condemnations of usury. On the other hand, he ignores the indisputable and very concrete links between the Protestant churches and Masonry, e.g., Anglican and Lutheran archbishops' and bishops' membership of the Freemasons.
So, in Hoffman's bizarre counter-intuitive form of historiography, binding papal encyclicals can be dismissed as charades, whereas irrefutable evidence of Masonic domination of Protestant churches is deemed irrelevant in assessing the merits of these denominations.
Hoffman doesn't appear to worry unduly either about Calvin's openly stated support for usury, Luther's admiration for occult alchemy, his proto-modernist attempts to edit the Bible to his own taste, and his exhortation to his followers to “sin boldly”.
Nor does Hoffman get around to explaining why, if the radical Protestants of past centuries were such upstanding folk, most mainline Protestant churches now support abortion, homosexuality, and why even most of the more conservative Protestant denominations endorse birth prevention and promote Israel First ultra-Zionism.
He largely ignores, too, the Protestant Anglo-Israelist origins of corrupt occult societies such as the Orange Order, Purple Arch, the Black Preceptory, Skull and Bones, and Scroll and Key—most of which flourished in the radical Protestant heartlands of northern Ireland, Scotland, New England, and the British colonies. Instead, he focuses all his moral outrage about the degeneracy of modern institutional Christianity on the Catholic Church.
For someone who takes such offence at criticism of his own stated views, Hoffman falsely attributes statements to his critics with reckless abandon. He says I claimed that usury "began" with Protestants. I would never say anything so absurd. Usury didn't begin with Protestants or "Romanists"; it has always existed. I did say that Hoffman has attempted to whitewash Protestantism's role in the rise of usury, and he has made no attempt to refute this charge.
Hoffman calls my speculation about the reasons for his admiration for Luther, Calvin, et al., “Freudian drivel”. Actually if I had to write the piece again, I'd leave out the last bit about Hoffman's possible motives for lionising Protestant leaders and Puritans—not because it's in any way far-fetched to speculate that he may have fallen prey to romantic hero-worship—a much more plausible hypothesis than his own outlandish claim that the popes were secretly promoting Freemasonry while pretending to condemn it. No, the reason I'd omit this final paragraph is because, with hindsight, I think it gives Hoffman too much credit, and may falsely imply a nuanced outlook on his part about religious matters, where no such nuance or balance exists. Regardless of his motives, of which I obviously have no certain knowledge, Hoffman's writings about the Church are quite simply the work of a crude anti-Catholic propagandist.
Incidentally, the only reason I even added the last bit is because Henry Makow, being a magnanimous sort of chap, asked me if I'd care to balance my criticisms of Hoffman with something positive. That was the context in which I wrote what I did about Hoffman's piece on Bing Crosby and Irving Berlin. However his views on the Old Crooner notwithstanding, Hoffman's anti-Catholic bigotry is beyond reasonable dispute in my view. "
Dachsie says...I personally like all these guys reporting about Catholic corruption but to me you have to pick a cut-off time in history when you are going to say that the pope ain't Catholic and therefore he ain't the pope. The cut-off time varies among all these Catholic truthers and some even think that outfit in Rome these days is the real deal. There have been several times in Church history where there was no pope for long periods. Now is one of those times.
^ long pre-PIZZA-gate, when I was however somewhat hip to "The Dinjooz and Their Lies", plus their Western mass-media monopoly; I concluded that their media was playing a deflection/misdirection/projection game wrt shaping which organized religion first came to the plebs' minds as closely linked to pedophilia. (((They))) chose the largest denomination within Christianity, aka RC-ism, with its "celibate clergy" and easily corruptible top-down management structure.
It came into focus one Easter Week, when I was watching the LOCAL evening news (with typical emphasis on LOCAL NEWS FIRST); and there at the top, either first or second story, was some obscure Catholic priest in Scotland who was getting pedo-busted. There was something very 'off' about this editorial choice of 'news' priorities.
Combine with the Talmud's pedo-friendly passages, and the occasional "good joo" speaking out against the child molestation inside their community only to be ruthlessly targeted, harmed & shunned; plus the "dinjoosh ritual blood sacrifice" history which I take to be very REAL, and the textbook dinjoosh MO of deflection/misdirection/projection... and there you have it.
Make no mistake, RC-ism has a systemic pedo problem; but pound for pound (per capita clergy) I'd guess the dinjooz are far worse. But where are they in average J6Ps' minds on the pedo question? Virtually non-existent. Clever tribe, (((they))) are!
Here is a pretty good article about
http://tradcatknight.blogspot.com/20...uction-of.html
the Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita written in the early 1800s. Their main target was the R. Catholic Church.
Some call it the heresy of modernism that Pope Pius X wrote about as "the synthesis of all heresies."
Rubber yellow ducky is to PedoGate
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Pizza is to PizzaGate
This is pedoGate not pizzagate....
a little research into the little yellow rubber duckies in several photos of Alex Soros, billionaire son of George.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...3011368859.jpg
Just one of the famous guests invited to Soros' 20,000sq ft mansion was Pussy Riot’s Nadya Tolokonnikova (left)
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz4lWa1BEXw
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"Over the past eight months, more than 2,300 ducks have been discovered in 56 countries such as Australia, Peru, Japan, Nigeria, and India. The ducks are found in random places — on a cafe table in Berlin, inside an airport in Singapore, at Esther Island in the gulf of Alaska — each with a note attached that reads, “Hello. Please take me home. I was made with love just for you” and an invitation to visit The Little Yellow Duck Project to learn about the project’s mission: Raising awareness for organ and tissue donation. Although many have been uncertain as to who was behind the duckies, the women supporting the project never made their mission a secret.
STORY: Family Gives Away $100K to Deserving Family to Honor Daughter "
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mom-behin...979054942.html
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The Outer Light
guy does excellent rundown on "the Russian narrative"
This has nothing to do with the main subject of this thread other than the main player in this scenario is Mr. PizzaGate himself, John Podesta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hNS9lK-hNE
Here we get to watch Pedoesto go into overdrive in Satan-assisted lying mode.
Pedoesto puts Bill and Hillary to shame when it comes to aggressive rapid-fire lying skills.
If anyone wants to observe what demonic possession looks like in action, this video is an interesting study.
I like the way The Outer Light commentator breaks out laughing at the absurdity of what Pedoesta and gang are trying to sell.
I personally did not see much evidence of Pedoesta squirming or appearing cornered and befuddled. He consented to this interview, taking place after he had the closed door congressional meeting and knowing full well the hardball questions he would be thrown, because Pedoesta has utmost confidence in his ability to lie well and defend himself effectively and fool most of the viewers, in other words, utmost confidence in the father of lies who is his god.
He sounded tough and strong to me like someone should if they are being attacked and they are really telling the truth. He had to resort to switching to his " depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is" Bill Clinton word games when he witch-switched to a technical definition of "a Russian company."
But Fox News knows what they have to do to not go down the tube that CNN and others are in. Fox News is going to keep their ratings up by ostensibly being on the side of "true Americans." Like I always say, all of this is deja vu all over again. I used to think Fox News was the real deal in the early 2000s but no more.
What I thought was particularly good when commentator said Pedodesta is Dick Cheney in another suit.
Sometimes people remind you of animals.
I always thought Pedoesta looks like an anorexic turkey.
^ I was skipping through that Outer Light analysis of the Pedo-sta/Bartiromo interview earlier; it seems he just plays a thumbnail sized version. Here's full size,
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hQyr9qUuvTM/h...iMAAsEp7dd-GLg12:59
Pizzagate John Podesta and Maria Bartiromo Epic Fight Over Hillary and Russia Ties.
Dboy Lee
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John Podesta and Maria Bartiromo Epic Fight Over Hillary and Russia Ties. Must see!
Makes Maria B look like the hero; but with her having been a dinjooz-media presenter for decades (mostly CNBC, AFAIK), you've gotta wonder what skeletons are in her closet?! She didn't raise Pedo-sta's pizzagate emails, after all....
I saw that on TV this afternoon, maybe it was a rerun. but it was indeed -- EPIC
This Bartiromo interview of Podesta is typical MSM theatre.
There are many ways to interpret it.
One could even say "the elite" are setting Pedoesta up to be thrown under the bus, and whether Pedoesta knows that is another story. He may even be playing a role and letting himself appear to be thrown under the bus. Or he could be really trying to defend himself to his masters to save himself. In this matter, it is not at all about what the public viewing audience thinks but Fox is certainly trying to sell that idea to their audience. The Deep State owns and controls all the cards in this game.
More and more I see that MSM entities do not need viewers, subscribers etc. They do not need money. They do not even need to stay in business and a big part of the manipulation is to make us think they need us.
I boycott lots of mainstream entities but I do it not because I think if many of us do this it will make things better for us but I think staying away from the gaming entities is what is best for one's soul.
This kind of little sub-story can even be viewed as sort of a new kind of false flag attack, as also can cyber security breaches and hackings and YouTube bannings etc. These kind of things are dialectical plays for the most part that can be used to further a single goal.