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To me the drugs angle is the Spignola meme.

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Before it was the spingola meme, it was the glennCo (glenn piper tillawi johnson) meme; spingola just got on their bus on 1/15/14 and became the noisiest advocate.

Most of glennCo's "work" in trying futiley to steer TM perceptions away from the "hoax" view, took place beginning Jan 13 '13, and then through 2013 before Dec '13 when the official joo SHoax reports/story were finally released. So glennCo's main persuation device was the ad-hom/name-calling/ridicule gambit. They really had nothing else.
http://www.911truth.org/twenty-five-...isinformation/ < see Rule 5, 18

Deanna came on board (jumped the shark) after the Dec '13 "official joo reports" release, and her disinfo MO's in promoting the joo SHoax story were mostly "Appeal to Authority", and also the "how dare you! shame on you!" (Rule 2) and the ad-hom/character assassination (against Sofia & Halbig) gambits. Oh, and the biggest joowiest one of all, not in the 25 Rules list: the Flip the Script & Project gambit.

All I can guess on why the controlled opposition elements "inside the TM" are all pushing the Limited Hangout "Big Pharma psychotropic drug effects coverup" angle, is that it's plausible, while it's also the "least damaging" to the greater JWO agenda in play. Big Pharma can promote & defend themselves with advertising, paid off white-coats, etc; but gov/media hoaxing major tragedies to enable the rolling out of tyrannical agendas; should this reality become widespread public belief/knowledge, is much more destructive to the JWO agenda.

latest AFP/Halbig interview from today, 13 mins:
http://americanfreepress.net/?p=16480

Great post. Not sure what TM stands for but understand the rest.

I am going to share some thoughts I have had and I hope I am not getting too far off topic thread but it does seem to fit in.

The "drug meme" was around I think long before "glennCo (glenn piper tillawi johnson)" adopted it. For many years Jon Rappaport (Rappaport is a Jewish name) was a fairly regular guest on Alex Jones show and while Jon talked on various mind control type subjects, increasingly over about the last three years, Jon has been focusing on drugs and Big Pharma.

Maybe there is a relationship to this idea of mine and maybe there is not but here goes...

GCN (Alex Jones, Joyce Riley etc) have most of their advertisers selling vitamins and supplements. GCN has three or four shows where the host is really a seller of Youngevity products and the show is in fact an infomercial in thin disguise. GCN shows often have "doctor" guests telling us the whole truth about "organized medicine" and Big Pharma. Some of these doctors are M.D.s but most are either Ph.D.s or naturopaths or veterinarians or chiropractors etc...

Alex Jones was a big pusher of Youngevity and so were other GCN spinoff radio networks such as Logos Radio Network. But now all of that has died down to a large extent on Alex's show because Alex now has Dr. Groom and Alex's dad (a dentist -oral surgeon) dad formulating Alex's own Infowars brand of various supplements. Rest assured this new branch of Infowars Inc. is bringing in scads of money directly to Alex and Alex does not have to just take a puny cut in the multi level marketing scheme of Youngevity. I am sure there are some behind the scenes machinations I do not know about in all of this as to who is getting money and how much from whom.

Anyway, all these people telling us how to treat ourselves and avoid establishment doctors and hospitals and Big Pharma prescription medicines send all of us to their supplement products, buying all their expensive products to do myself good as well as support the "liberty movement" and "the network". The number of ads and promos of various kinds for a huge array of different products is overwhelming and I have just had to "go it alone" in deciding for myself what works for me and what I should try and what I should not try because of price or other reasons. All of the products and info they inundate us with is unfathomable to me and I am above average in being able to sniff out a scam.

Anyway, one of the major themes of all the alternative radio networks is independence from the establishment and the "system" and by having the vital info they give us may actually make us able to better survive the "coming collapse."

So all of this "drug meme" has been subtly a part of all the alternative news outlets for many many years because it supports their bottom line money income. That is my mini-thesis on this topic of the drug meme.

I have no doubt that some of the info is very true and good to know and some of the products are high quality and worth the price, but definitely more and more the game seems to be to subtly use the liberty themes to sell vitamins and nutritional supplements.

I don't think Spignola is some one who would/should see the hoax of other events but is unable to make the determination with SH for some reason. Spignola changed from the recognition it was a hoax to now claiming it isn't. I think that is different. Its a turning or changing of position. Something caused this change of position and I do not think it was some kind of mental blockage on SH from the outset.

I also think SH is a different type of event to the School Stabbing and the Veterans Hospital and should be treated as such. School Stabbing - the accused is a student at the school. The Veterans Hospital attack - A Veteran who is a patient at the Hospital. Sandy Hook - the accused has no connection with SH elementary at all. The first two appear to have some connection with reality leading to the possibility they are more factual than fictional. SH seems to be the opposite. It does not appear to be much more than a fiction. Anyway, that's how I am positioning them in my thoughts at this time.

I may have missed it and pardon me if I have, but what is the position on Adam Lanza and psychotropic drugs. Was he on them? Has anyone said he was whacked out on them? The best I can tell is the narrative that he refused to take drugs. Was he prescribed any. They say he had aspergers. It would be interesting to know if any Doctors/GP in Connecticut treated Adam Lanza. Who was the family Doctor? It is probably a question that cannot be answered. There doesn't appear to be a drug based therapy for this condition so I would question the prescribing of drugs to Adam or the claim he refused to take drugs for his condition when none are recognised for it.

But on the flip side of that, compulsive or repetitive behaviors, which may be a part of an Asperger sufferers behavioural traits are often treated with SSRI's (I'm using wiki info here). I guess we go with that being the focus of this psychotropic drugs discussion.

It should also be noted that the diagnosis of Aspergers is no longer available as the condition has been absorbed into the Autism Spectrum Disorders.

I'm still not convinced that Adam even existed so the discussion on his drug taking is a questionable use of time and resources IMO.

TM in the context I used it is Truth Movement. But in the context of say, HoloCo$t™, it's Trade Mark of course. :)

So AJ's dad is in on the action now? LOL. I recall maybe 3 years ago AJ & "Mark Dice" (prolly really steinberg or something) had a falling out, and Dice put up a youtube criticizing AJ's peddling some Tangy Tangerine KoolAid multi-level racket which could make you a million a year and shite. Dice showed the ingredients, and one of them was arsenic behind some brand-name disguise (like mercury/thimerosol). I guess AJ & Dice kissed & made up coz Dice has since pulled that video.

Anyways your hypothesis makes some sense, at least as one puzzle piece in the big picture. Delphi-Deanna's been on RBN; but I only listen to the commercial free mp3s of her shows, never live, so I really don't know who their sponsors are; but I believe alt-nutrition supplement sponsors are a big component. However, Delphi's GUESTS who are generally anti-alopathic pro-naturapathic, mostly don't seem to be peddling anything except good foods. At least one exception I can think of is Dr. Daniels who has some detox item she sells, and gets one or two plugs in for, but mostly she's about nutrition advice. Delphi has peddled the advice, "don't buy/eat anything with a label" (IE nothing "processed") which I guess limits you to the bulk bins & produce sections? And GlennCo's site & podcasts are ad-free, so that would tend to at least offset your theory somewhat.

The overarching reason I'd guess GlennCo & Delphi all (proclaim to be) in the same "Big Pharma Coverup" TM steering attempt campaign, is that that's the tact their bosses have bribed/coerced them to take. I'm certain it's not just an "honest disagreement" between them & SHoax skeptics, because of their consistent, naked employment of the 25 Rules + #26: Flip the Script & Project (esp Delphi in that latter, IE "SHoax skeptics are Sunstein Agents Yada Yada"). Their resorting to these gambits in trying to coerce their (proclaimed) SHoax views, rips the mask right off their disingenuousness.

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Originally Posted by Glass

I may have missed it and pardon me if I have, but what is the position on Adam Lanza and psychotropic drugs. Was he on them? Has anyone said he was whacked out on them? The best I can tell is the narrative that he refused to take drugs.

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Yeah, best most credible evidence of "the Pharma agenda" we have is the Joo Yorker Magazine article penned by the joosh son of a big pharma CEO, saying Adam was "off his meds" IE meds were the would-be saviors/massacre-preventers.
March 12, 2014
The Sandy Hook-Psychopharma Connection ¹⁴³

I think you are right about my hypothesis. It does not hold up extremely well. I do know that ...

DRUGS ARE BAD BAD is one of the major themes of all these alternative show hosts.
Another theme is
THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO TURN YOU INTO A DRUGGED UP ZOMBIE JUST LIKE ADAM LANZA

I know there is some truth in those themes but I also know that there are some drugs and some alopathic medicine practicioners that provide real help in some situations when nothing else will.

I had a falling out with Deanna quite a while back. I have listened to her for many years but mainly before she went on RBN, that is, when she was a guest on Dr. Stan Monteith's programs years ago. She has an almost irrational belief in Dr. Judy Wood and hate of Dr. James Fetzer.

I posted on Friend forum a while back my diagnosis of Spingola and what I consider to be her paranoid ideations. I do not think Spingola is in great mental health shape.

I know that GCN dictates to their hosts what subjects they are not to talk about at all. Here is an example....

When Susan Posel and Vinny Eastwood came out with their big story about Santilli being exposed by Anonymous as actually working for the FBI, about in Oct of 2013, Joyce Riley, GCN host, announced on one of her shows something very cryptic about the story but she would not name names nor really tell anybody what the heck she was talking about any was very brief.

She said something like 'someone we all know has been found by and said by Anonymous to be an "agent." I don't know anything about it but you can look it up on the web and you will find it."

Joyce had just had Santilli on as a guest about a week before and had had Posel on her show two or three times in the not destant past.

I understand Posel does not have a completely clean record either (plagiarizing ?) but that whole big story has faded off the radar. I think that is very odd.

I participated in a long thread on Amazon about Tangy Tangerine. The ingredient list of it sounds like the recipe for an atomic bomb. Those phony "doctors" came on Alex's show and claimed we all needed a little arsenic every day.

I don't know anything about Posel really; just the shows I've heard her do with Vinny. Not sure I've even visited her site? She comes across a nice mix of intelligent & cheery in her Vinny shows. She did put me off a bit a couple months ago for something fairly lightweight-- namely her & Vinny were in some roundtable on another show, and Posel had this really contrived sounding kumbayah, peace & love sounding soliloquy near the beginning, which "grinded on me" such that I had to FF the mp3 just to get past it!! I think it was the "Angry Beaver" show you'll find near the bottom of http://www.thevinnyeastwoodshow.com/

Didn't you say elsewhere that your falling out with Delphi was due to some antics in her chat room during one of her live shows? A similar experience during her Jan 15, '14 show helped put a fire under me to start the jumps shark thread! :( I think the mod that night was 30-odd-6, who was blatantly "delphi'ing" the incoming comments, and deleting those he didn't like!

No, I think I may have posted one time in her chat room. As I vaguely recall, something about it did not work properly, but I have not listened to 90 percent of her RBN shows.

This was at least 8 months ago. Deanna reported (with audio link) on Mami's how John Stadtmiller had spoken harshly to her and said some negative things about her show and asked that she stopped saying so many glowing things about Hitler. He told her and said this on air on his show something like, in regard to her praise of Hitler being a benevolent and kind and wise leader, and the camps being sort of like Club Med resorts, that he 'could not push that boulder up the hill" meaning he could not sell her ideas of that nature to his RBN audience.

I reported this on Mami's and Deanna posted what I thought was kind of a strange reply to my post. She posted something like "John apologized to me." She kind of presents herself as a persecuted victim sometimes.

I cannot see where John would apologize for expressing his thouhgts which seemed logical and based on facts and reasonable considering he is the owner of RBN and has to watch for things that offend his listeners. That kind of talk about Hitler, most of which is, while possible true to some extent, not solidly documented, and is hard to sell to any audience.

There is something "co-dependent","sticky", and sneaky about Deanna's personality. Same for Dr. Judy Wood.

I realize RBN and John have kind of a dodgy reputation too.

Seems every show and effort to expose Zionist agenda gets messed up somethow.

Rense.com had this article linked today

"Sandy Hook massacre: The 26 Christmas trees"


http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...comment-265661
Rense.com

This is a well done detailed article about another very strange feature of the Sandy Hook event.
I posted a comment as dachsielady and posted on another article about Sandy Hook on that site.

I guess the site uses the word "massacre" to parody the mainstream media as it seems very open to discussing the strong possibilities that there were no deaths and no real people victims.

It seems like a pretty good site to me so far.

I have sort of a file clerk mindset and I wish all the good threads about some aspect of Sandy Hook were all in one place. I think it would be cool to put together and e book and short video to go with it sort of just listing and explaining all the Sandy Hook anomalies, which each do not seem like much, but together all in one place make a strong case for Sandy Hook being another Big Evil Lie event.

For those interested in listening to a shill promote the MSM version of Sandy Hook:

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/...n-4102014.html


Also, I think it's kind of interesting that AFP sponsors radio shows with Spingola and Johnson, who both promote the zio-media version of Sandy Hook. I think I may have heard Friend and Gahary attempt to talk about this in a positive light, saying something like "isn't it great that we cover both sides of an issue??"

Sandy hook student says it was a drill MUST SEE !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enUw-OqfghA

Published on Feb 10, 2013
third grade sandy hook student says he remembers lots of police and a DRILL at the school on the day of the supposed shooting, the interviewer makes like he didn't hear the boy and proceeds to the next question. truth is what we want, lies is what we get.

Here's a new article on Sandy Hook Elementary being an abandoned school long before the staged event. I'll bring the whole article over in a few days, but for now, just read it at the original site:

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...-the-massacre/

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Here's a new article on Sandy Hook Elementary being an abandoned school long before the staged event. I'll bring the whole article over in a few days, but for now, just read it at the original site:

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...-the-massacre/

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Some different photos there, were these taken later on?

here's a different angle of that one you showed before.

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Not many school children's desks in this school.



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You may think: “Maybe the Connecticut State Police had cleared some of the classrooms, pushing stuff to the sides of the room, before they took the photos.” But then, there are many photos (like the one below) of bullets next to yellow crime scene markers, which suggest the photos of the classrooms had been taken as they were, without disturbing or altering the crime scene.

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Nancy Lanza's walls do appear very clean, no pictures or anything hung.

and furniture looks like new.

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Some different photos there, were these taken later on?

here's a different angle of that one you showed before.

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Not many school children's desks in this school.

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I'm fairly certain that all of the photos were taken within a few days of the event (definitely within a week). I also noticed that about the lack of desks in certain rooms. Plus, there are also a couple of photos with a whole bunch of things in the hallways. And there were also a couple of photos of extremely disorganized classrooms--there's no way a teacher would be allowed to keep her classroom in such disarray. I'm assuming that the photos reflect the crime scene as it was (I don't think they are allowed to move things around before they take photos-otherwise they are tampering with a crime scene). But if I'm wrong on that, and they can actually move stuff around and then take a photo, hopefully someone will correct me.

For those interested, I highly recommend downloading the photos and going through them yourself-it actually doesn't take that long b/c you can just click through them very fast.

If you go here http://cspsandyhookreport.ct.gov/ and scroll down to "Photographs," under which you click on

22 Assorted Files (.zip, 138 MB includes 22 pdf files, ) Once you down load those files, you'll see separate files, like "Walkley Crime scene"--that's the one with tons of photos from inside the school.

I've actually gone through several of the photograph files. When you go through the ones on the interior and exterior of the school, it kind of jumps out at you that there's no way that a school in that condition would have been allowed to operate. There are some close up shots of the floor and lower wall tiles and you can see tons of mold. The other thing I noticed as that there were lots of fans all over the place (kind of strange for December in CT), but no wall calendars, which is odd for an elementary school.

Also, in one of the files, there are photos of the cars in the parking lot and it seems like there at least a couple of cars with bullet holes (I was only aware of the bullet holes in Rousseau's car, one of which already began to rust!) I've already seen other sites online showing how there was a problem with the trajectory and the holes in Rousseau's car. This also seems to be the case with the bullet hole in another car. It looked like the car was hit on the side (maybe passenger door), but given the angle the cars were parked at relative to the school, and the fact that the cars were parked next to other cars, this also seemed like an impossibility.

Found this video interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omRqke1yeyo

I haven't listened yet, as I know it's one of those things I need to muster energy for coz I know it (KJohnson screeching lies) will be very annoying. At least it's mami's Whooli who posted it so presumably S.Hoax skeptics comments won't be deleted/censored? FauxCapitalist has already noted how KJ Flips the Script & Projects early on:

6 minutes in, Keith Johnson declares:

"I believe there are people out there who are deliberately putting out false information concerning that tragic incident that occurred at the end of 2012. And I believe that they're doing it to discredit the Truth movement, the alternative movement." [...]

ah well here it is:

"In the Spotlight" with Keith Johnson 4/10/2014

https://americanfreepress.net/wp-con...on-300x231.jpg

On this premiere edition of “In the Spotlight,” Keith continues to argue against those who believe that Sandy Hook was an elaborate hoax.
Sandy Hook researcher CW Wade joins the program to discuss his April 7 AFP debate with school safety expert Wolfgang W. Halbig.

Show-page
American Free Press
The Barnes Review


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On those bullet holes in Rousseau's car that I mentioned above (^1335), though the CT photos don't show the rusted bullet hole, the video here at the 13 sec mark shows it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtUqGukP2SY



And on the problems with the trajectory, this site https://usahitman.com/lrcrbh/ tried to map it out:

The official story: Lauren’s car was struck by bullets shot from inside the building. There was no record of any bullet holes in the windows of the school… Here is another image that shows the angle which the gun had to be fired:

https://usahitman.com/wp-content/upl...f2-550x344.jpg


Now with your knowledge of the angle her car would have been parked at in relation to the shooter, how is it possible for a bullet hole to penetrate the side of her car at the trajectory shown above? Was there no car beside her? This is just one of the many mysteries about the official story. More research coming in different articles, stay tuned.


And on this site http://www.conspiracy-cafe.com/apps/...n-drive-my-car (which is run by a former Toronto cop), he seems to think one of the bullet holes in Rousseau's car was actually fired from inside:


Then there is an issue of teacher Lauren Rousseau's car being riddled with bullets on the outside of the school. Whoever said there was shooting outside? Her Honda was green.
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http://files.abovetopsecret.com/file...nk50d6c4e7.jpg
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There was a gunfight at the O.K. corral in the parking lot. It may very well be that a drug deal went south and they shot it out. One of the 'second' shooters has been identified as well. If we look at the above pictures of Rousseau's car, pay attention to the upper image. Call me stoopid, but that looks like an exit hole. It craters out not in. Baby you can drive my car, but try NOT to shoot your gun off from inside please because then people will want to ban them.

NOW THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION?
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The only proof we have that Nancy Lanza owned firearms was the media saying she did. There is no documentary evidence from the police who would have had to issue a permit after a serious application process that includes a fingerprint check. DID NANCY LANZA OWN ANY GUNS?
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As a case for comparison I can show you Eleanor Roosevelt owned and carried a firearm.
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https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-r...e920-large.jpg

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Originally Posted by Amanda

For those interested in listening to a shill promote the MSM version of Sandy Hook:

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/04/...n-4102014.html


Also, I think it's kind of interesting that AFP sponsors radio shows with Spingola and Johnson, who both promote the zio-media version of Sandy Hook. I think I may have heard Friend and Gahary attempt to talk about this in a positive light, saying something like "isn't it great that we cover both sides of an issue??"

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oops missed this when I posted #1337 above. I did just post a comment in the thread which I'll repost here for posterity... and evidence in case a rogue mami's mod deletes the original there.

Pat Colo said...

FauxCapitalist said...

6 minutes in, Keith Johnson declares:

"I believe there are people out there who are deliberately putting out false information concerning that tragic incident that occurred at the end of 2012. And I believe that they're doing it to discredit the Truth movement, the alternative movement." [...]


^ This is more of the same textbook joowey "Flip the Script & Project" gambit we've seen at the core of GlennCo's (incl KJ) & Deanna's pro-joo-SHoax-story campaigns since their inceptions. ref:
http://tinyurl.com/kx83ghs
...to say nothing of the sock drawer of pro-joo-SHoax-story shills infesting Mami's comments.

Separately, I posted @ Fetzer's blog,

"Dr. Fetzer, shouldn't 2 items be in "Wolfgang's Questions", which are not there? These 2 don't ask why such & such didn't happen which can be dismissed under the catch-all "human error" banner. Rather, these two irregularities are backed by hard forensic evidence that they DID happen, question being WHY?

1. The "free houses" recorded on Christmas Day '09. I heard these all trace to "victim families", and that they all went up for sale after the event sometime. A personal visit to the SH Clerk/Recorder's office for hard copies of these records-- and some questions of them about the "normalcy" of title transfer recordings on Christmas Day with *ZERO* sale prices, would be in order, yes?

2. The complete cessation of all internet traffic to/from SHES since the end of the '08 Spring semester. This was only discovered by a researcher about a month ago.

The 2nd item suggesting that SHES was closed since Summer '08, is corroborated by numerous videos showing the school's decrepit, unmaintained condition.

Again, the above 2 items are forensically evidenced, unlike several of Wolfgang's "why DIDN'T xyz happen" questions. "

Fetzer responded, "Good thoughts. Thanks for mentioning both. Important."
ref: http://tinyurl.com/qjjj4gl
April 11, 2014 at 9:30 PM

@PatColo--Good luck listening to that Keith Johnson audio!! I honestly don't think I have the stomach for it.

Anyway, I just returned to the article I recently linked to here http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...-the-massacre/ and it looks like one of the people commenting had some interesting things to say:

Sig94 | April 11, 2014 at 5:10 pm | Reply

I was a NYS certified evidence technician for over seven years. I have processed hundreds and hundreds of crime scenes including homicides. These photos simply do not make sense. As the poster pointed out, where’s the blood? Not only are pools of blood not depicted, but also the high velocity blood spatters that would have been caused by the suspect’s high powered rifle. They are characteristic of firearms-related incidents and are rather different from medium velocity spatters to a trained eye.

So where’s the medical waste? Twenty-six human beings were shot and not a bandage to be seen? No bloody gauze? No empty 4X4 wrappers? When emergency medical teams converge on something like this, an ocean of medical waste is left at the scene. This is sanitary, scrubbed.

The 5.56mm round (those commonly available) are usually full metal jacketed and either 55 or 62 grams – their velocity is right around 2800-3000 fps. Look at that photo (1C Custodial Closet) with a so called bullet hole in the ceramic about 16 inches above the floor. It looks like it was drilled, the dust neatly piled on the floor. The picture right below that with an impact area on the corner of a wall – it looks like a ball peen hammer was used and the bullet never got beyond the tile into the cinderblock.

Where are the papers spilled all over the floor as panicked children fled? Why aren’t chairs thrown helter-skelter, desks out of order? If the kids and teachers didn’t turn this place upside down trying to escape/evade the shooter the cops would have in their search for the suspect(s).

This is not a crime scene where slaughter occurred, where terror and pandemonium reigned supreme. There are no signs of chaos.

This is sanitary, scrubbed.

Staged. And not very well at that.


Dr. Eowyn | April 11, 2014 at 5:29 pm | Reply

Thank you, Sig, for your expert analysis.



“Look at that photo (1C Custodial Closet) with a so called bullet hole in the ceramic about 16 inches above the floor. It looks like it was drilled, the dust neatly piled on the floor.”

• Sig, you have sharp eyes! I’m re-posting that pic here, having drawn red circles around the “bullet hole” and the pile of drilled dust. LOL
  http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordp...le31.jpg?w=500

Not sure you even need to get into any bullet trails here, Amanda.

As there is no evidence of them actually doing damage to humans.

Seems it would be a distraction route.

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@PatColo--Good luck listening to that Keith Johnson audio!! I honestly don't think I have the stomach for it.

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I "stomached" 10 mins and that's all I could take, and I put something else on. 10 mins was enough for KJ to screech about skeptics as Sunstein disinfo agents, exonerating mass-murderer Lanza, only a matter of time before one of these skeptics shoots a victim's family member, yada, yada, yada. Sunstein. With 1hr 50mins to go, and guest CW "JOO-S.HOAX-REPORTShttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018" Wade hadn't even been introduced yet; I said no way Jose!

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http://i.imgur.com/XLTJQbd.jpg

ETA: I was going to give the MP3 the skipping ahead & spot checking treatment. Description doesn't say, but Delphi-Deanna is on the show too. I gave that a few mins in the 20+ min area, and it's the 3 shills circle-jerking over how Wade beat Halbig in the Apr 8 debate so bad, Halbig "doesn't want you to read the reportshttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018" ;D lol, oh and we're not ad-hom'ing Halbig (ad-hom, ad-hom, ad-hom). It's just their usual Flip the Script & Project dance.


I spot checked through the 2nd hour, to check if they took callers as the show description promises they would.... NOPE. :( I expect the line will be, "well there were no callers!" lol. Delphi claimed this of their first 3-way Shill-A-Thon two Sundays ago; but it was surely just coincidental that they didn't finish re-bunking the last of Halbig's 16 Q's until the very end of the 3rd hour!


I did hear a great line @ 1h 39m; KJ says ACooper had Prof Tracy on so that Cooper could turn CNN viewers on to Tracy's blog LOL, Delphi coohed "Oh absolutely!"; then he's on about how Cooper's ex-CIA yada yada, basically trying to puff up their shilly "S.Hoax skepticism is a Sunstein op" Flip the Script & Project disinfo-theory...


KJ ends the show with this precious declaration: "And yes, these people are predators ladies & gentlemen! These people are preying on the weak, on the, they're exploiting this tragedy for their own, for their own purposes, their own selfish purposes!" :eek: << I post that coz it looks more like a BAGELhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/attachme...1&d=1361024018, than a smiley!

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Not sure you even need to get into any bullet trails here, Amanda.

As there is no evidence of them actually doing damage to humans.

Seems it would be a distraction route.

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Oh, yeah, I totally agree with you. There's no evidence of anything in this whole case. I was just mentioning the bullet holes in the cars b/c they had a photo file on them--I was just bringing that stuff up to show there's more contrived evidence. But that stuff is certainly not central to proving the whole thing is a hoax.


@PatColo- LOL! I give you credit for trying. I actually tried for a few minutes, but it was too painful. Though I did find it interesting that he actually acknowledged that most listening to the audio consider SH a hoax. Also, the comments are interesting over there. The second one kind of demonstrated what I have noticed about those supporting the official version of SH--they just follow what their favorite radio host says (DS, MG, or MCP) and never bother to actually look at the facts and evidence.

Just found this comment from "Amanda Price" over at http://radiofetzer.blogspot.com/2014...l#comment-form which gives a good summary of the Keith Johnson, Spingola, and Wade shill-a-thon (wish she also posted this at grizzom):

Amanda PriceApril 12, 2014 at 1:01 PM
Spingolas latest attempt with wade to prove sandy hook was real was pathetic. Its in the report, have you not read it? seems to be the answer to most of the questions. They look to that report, the way a christian looks to the bible. It was shockingly bad, johnson just rambled on about how people who dont believe the report are mental with spingola laughing along, though it certainly beats the crying.

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/stud...sandy_hook.htm


What’s the Real Truth about the
Sandy Hook “Massacre”?

Lorraine Day, M.D.

" The original “Official Version.”

Adam Lanza, a 20-year old “tech geek loner” possibly suffering from some variation of Autism, somehow snapped on Friday, December 14, 2012, shot his mother in the face with a rifle 6 times at home, killing her, then drove her car to the Sandy Hook Elementary School (where his mother supposedly was a teacher), and shot and killed 20 kindergarten children, and 6 teachers with a “long gun” of some sort. Then he shot himself (with the same “long gun.”)

This “lone gunman” scenario is similar to the July, 2012 Aurora, Colorado shooting and other school shootings around America.

If the Sandy Hook “Massacre” really happened that way, there shouldn’t be much room for errors in reporting. However, the “official” version has changed multiple times, and even the supposedly “final” version does not fit the facts of the case.

There are still numerous legitimate questions for which there are no answers. ..."

SNIP article a bit too long to post here but it is worth reading

Excellent hyperlinked references too - covers all aspects of Sandy Hook.

Below is a video from Kate Slate on Adam Lanza's clothing.

Also, I found this comment over at godlikeproductions from "Anonymous Coward" (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...e2447774/pg1):

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Lanza shot his head off from behind with Glock's most powerful gun and his brains and bone and blood should be in that hat. Yet we see a small hole and a drop of blood. He was 6 ft and 112 pounds and yet he is wearing 32R pants and medium underwear?

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Sandy Hook Adam Lanza's Clothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78GDON73qeU


Comments over on youtube are worth reviewing. Here are a couple of good ones:

RhNegtiv1 month ago - +awc222 I looked up his weight and height in an anorexic graph. Sure enough, this is an anorexic body. A person with this body would be on his back in a hospital bed with feeding tubes.

https://gp6.googleusercontent.com/-g...k-no/photo.jpgawc2221 month ago - +RhNegtiv And he was supposed to have carried half his body weight in firearms and ammo? Who makes this stuff up?

Here are a couple of videos of the SH parents. Part of me wonders why the govt. hired such bad actors--was this deliberate?? Do they think we are so collectively stupid that we would actually fall for this??

Robbie Parker and Wife Meeting with Peter Lanza - Weird Moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-2flGuihzQ

Published on Mar 21, 2013

Robbie Parker and Wife Meeting with Peter Lanza - The Weirdness is definitely there- Robbies Wife appears to be about as bad an actor as Robbie.

Comments:
The Gomez
Look at the stupid smirks they give each other. Give me a break. I don't know what happened there, (because you don't want to believe your being to lied to on such a massive scale) but something is obviously off.

Tom Mcdonough
These past three months since our treasonous acting as Sandy Hook parents having lost a fake child. is indeed something that both he and "his wife", can smile about. The checks from the government and the fooled, "sheeple", keep coming in. It's like a child on Christmas morning every day when he checks his bank account balance and sees it growing exponentially. If that's not something to smile about, then I don't know what is, lol.

Julian L
Damn these two people are terrible actors. You would think the government could afford better actors for their false flags.


And here's a video with Catherine Hubbards parents just a week or so after the SH event. At about the 57 sec mark, the mother makes it clear that she's not about to let the recent murder of her daughter ruin her Christmas!?!?!

SANDY HOOK: Catherine Hubbard Parents Seem Thrilled Daughter Murdered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuCs2isnkGM

Okay, here's a little more from Jennifer Hubbard. Also, what's interesting is that it's mentioned that the Hubbards moved to Newtown a few months before they pulled off the hoax, yet the info here says they got their home years earlier http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014...dy-hook-homes/

Sandy Hook Snowball Of Lies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38yGq3YBpLE

Published on Sep 24, 2013
Jennifer Hubbard who states she lost her daughter, Catherine Hubbard at the Sandy Hook Elementary school shooting is completely thrilled at the new park dedicated to her slain daughter. Francine Wheeler pushes her gun control agenda and just in the nick of time, Governor Dannel Malloy issues a presser stating they back the new school for Sandy Hook.

Comments:

kimberly mccracken

when my daughter died i sure as hell didnt feel like laughing and smiling and joking around !! This is such bullshit !!! I really do not know what is going on in this world , but its bad and these people who are involved with these scams are very sick people !!

Ex SCAMiner

Yep. Complete bullshit. Where is ONE comment about "wish she was there to see this?" or "I just wish SHE could have actually gotten this playground we promised her?" Because news flash...she didn't. You're absolutely right, Kate. This lying piece of shit is NOT the actual parent of a brutally murdered child. There is no way she is.

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordp...pg?w=500&h=279

http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2013...crisis-actors/

Has anyone here researched this guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ttv4XFAbw kat hak sung

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Has anyone here researched this guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4ttv4XFAbw kat hak sung

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We certainly had that post discussed in this thread at some point but I don't think we know much more than a warning post was made a long time before.

I am now listening live to Dr. James Fetzer debating McDonald on AFP radio re. Boston Marathon Bombing.

News regarding Wolfgang Halbig's upcoming visit to Newtown CT to seek answers to his 16 questions and to serve FOIA requests for information.

Dr. Fetzer stated he is going to accompany Wolfgang Halbig to Newtown Ct "less than 2 weeks hence."

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I just had a brief phone conversation with Wolfgang Halbig .

He is leaving for Newtown late on May 5.

He will be leaving Newtown on May 7.

So will only have two days for work there.

He is bringing two film crews.

Dr. James Fetzer will be there.

Not sure if Dan Bidondi will be there.

Not sure if Alex Jones people will be there.

Wolfgang is planning a brand new website that he hopes will be ready by May 5. He does not know the new website name.

I will try to get the website name and post it here.

The plans for the new website is that it is to be the place where videos from his Newtown visit will be posted. When WH and associates get back home they will edit and prepare the videos and get them posted asap on the new website.

JFetzer's been planning to accompany WH to Newtown for weeks already. I'd be curious about the backgrounds of the "2 film crews"; are they affiliated with news org's, in particular, has Infowars got their paws in this somehow? Their was some buzz that AJ might wedge his big moon-mug into the picture somehow? On balance, I hope not, although he would add to the "renewed publicity" outcome...

More on JF/WH's Newtown trip discussed in JF's hour on Rense Apr 21:
Listen Download Hour 2 - James Fetzer - Zio West Try To Encircle Russia Will Fail

^ SHoax is discussed beginning 26:00 through the end (43 mins). Rense asks some good questions, like will they have "standing" to attend the school board meeting (no) and might they thus be prohibited from attending? And, might pressure be brought to bear against WH's crack legal team? JF doesn't really answer either Q.

One bright point is that JF has picked up the importance of the "no internet traffic to/from SHES since Summer '08" angle,

Sandy Hook Elementary School: closed in 2008, a stage in 2012

http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-cont...8-12-90x65.jpg
As Wolfgang Halbig prepares to head to Newton to pursue the truth about Sandy Hook and confront the Newtown School Board with questions, more and more evidence suggests that Sandy Hook Elementary was not even an operating school.

April 15th, 2014

Is that "our Amanda" that article ^ is co-authored by? :)

And in a comment I made at JF's blog, he responded affirmatively to my suggestion they get hard-copies of the Title histories of the 12/25/09 "free houses" in Sandy Hook, from the County Clerk & Recorder's office.

"in particular, has Infowars got their paws in this somehow?"

I could not pin WH down on the phone today about AJ being in on the trip.

Remember that Dan Bidondi is works on a contract basis for Aj's Infowars as their "East Coast correspondent." Bidondi won this job by speaking out at some event and saying some tough things to some well known government person. Can't remember particular right now.

He did say that Dan Bidondi knows he is invited to be there too but indicated he did not specially contact Bidondi and make sure he knows he is invited. Bidondi said he needed to be contacted but that is not happening.

So while I tend to think Bidondi is an honest person and is independent in most of his work, he may not be able to be completely independent on Sandy Hook, that is, if Alex Jones is as un-independent as I think he is.

Re Bidondi, I think this is the notorious press conference,

MUST SEE- Inside Boston Marathon Bombing Press Conferences

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36IEMbDgATk


I haven't watched this but it also came up in my search,
How to End a Press Conference with Real Questions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-IT1W0NzAk


Bidondi/Halbig, if you have 1hr 41mins to spare (I believe I listened to this in March sometime)
Truth Radio Show w/Dan Bidondi March 21st, 2014 (Wolfgang Halbig)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMWqHy2MnPU

I believe Dave Gahary, from the American Free Press will be there also.

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Originally Posted by Dachsie

"in particular, has Infowars got their paws in this somehow?"

I could not pin WH down on the phone today about AJ being in on the trip.

Remember that Dan Bidondi is works on a contract basis for Aj's Infowars as their "East Coast correspondent." Bidondi won this job by speaking out at some event and saying some tough things to some well known government person. Can't remember particular right now.

He did say that Dan Bidondi knows he is invited to be there too but indicated he did not specially contact Bidondi and make sure he knows he is invited. Bidondi said he needed to be contacted but that is not happening.

So while I tend to think Bidondi is an honest person and is independent in most of his work, he may not be able to be completely independent on Sandy Hook, that is, if Alex Jones is as un-independent as I think he is.

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memoryholeblog:

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Ministry of Plenty ⁵³

Home • Tags: gun control, Public Opinion, Sandy Hook Elementary, state crime
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Newtown residents and Sandy Hook parents win the Connecticut Lottery

By Duke Reichert*

“There was a whole tribe of men who made their living simply by selling systems, forecasts, and lucky amulets. Winston had nothing to do with the Lottery, which was managed by the Ministry of Plenty, but he was aware (indeed everyone in the party was aware) that the prizes were largely imaginary. Only small sums were actually paid out, the winners of the big prizes being nonexistent persons.
― George Orwell, 1984

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Heh, reminds me of when, in 2010, the Israeli lottery drew the same numbers as 3 weeks before-- an event statisticians said was a one in four trillion chance.

The 3 "winners", who also correctly guessed the 7th "strong number" each won £666,000,

Dr. James Fetzer put out a new comprehensive article on VeteransToday.com on Sandy Hook.

Here it is...without the many photographs and with the comments up to 4:40 p.m. CST Tuesday, May 6, 2014.



http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/05...ndy-hook-hoax/

Newtown School Board, The Newtown Bee complicit in the Sandy Hook hoax
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by Jim Fetzer

“O, what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive”–Sir Walter Scott

Wolfgang Halbig and I are traveling to Newtown in search of the truth about Sandy Hook.

We are going to appear at the monthly meeting of the Newtown School Board on Tuesday to ask questions about Sandy Hook that no one has been willing to answer.

That the Newton School Board and The Newtown Bee were complicit in the fraud is not difficult to establish.
This event appears to have been designed as an elaborate “psy op” to advance an aggressive gun control agenda on the basis of reasoning that must have gone something like this:

“If we don’t get guns under control, something horrible, like a school shooting, will inevitably take place. We need to show the country what is going to happen if guns aren’t brought under control, which will guarantee that something like this never happens–as long as no one here is actually killed! Let’s do it!”

The alternative explanation is that this plan originated at the federal level, since Eric Holder, Attorney General of the United States, visited with the governor of Connecticut about a month before the event. During a press conference that day, Governor Malloy would observe that he and the Lt. Governor had been “spoken to” that something like this might happen.
But what could he possibly have meant by that? (a) That he had been told there would be a mass shooting of children at a Connecticut elementary school, in which case he should have taken steps to preclude it. (b) That he had been told that a drill would be conducted at a Connecticut elementary school and presented as though it had been a real event. Since he took none of the steps that might have prevented such an event, the correct explanation has to be alternative (b).
Where are the children?

It is not difficult to discern that the Newtown School Board has to have been complicit in the fraud. Using The Wayback Machine has shown that there was no computer activity at Sandy Hook Elementary School from 2008 to 2012. That is consistent with the school having been closed in 2008, apparently on the basis of the presence of asbestos and other bio-hazards in the building.

It is difficult to imagine how the school could have functioned if the staff and the administration had no access to computers. When I did a search on the school, moreover, I discovered that it was a top-rated (10 out of 10) K-4 elementary school that had 626 students. Here is one of the reports about it:

But that means there should have been around 600 students who needed to be evacuated from the school when this event transpired. That would have required around a dozen buses (at 48-50 students per bus), when you divide 600 by 50. So where are they? We have early photos of the scene but no children and no buses are present.

So we not only have no surge of EMTs into the building, no Med-Evac helicopter, no ambulances and exactly one fire engine but we have no sense of urgency at the scene and no frantic efforts to evacuate the other 600 children from the vicinity. And if it was too early for the buses to be there, it was not too early to get those 600 children out of the building and to safety.
The School Board and The Newtown Bee were complicit

We not only have multiple indications that Sandy Hook Elementary was not an operating school at the time of the alleged shooting, including that it was not ADA compliant and that it was being used as storage, which of course the School Board had to have known. but ample proof that The Newtown Bee was in on it, too.

Both had to know that a widely-circulated photo showing a teacher assisting children evacuate a school was taken at Sandy Hook but at a drill conducted earlier in the fall. So we not only have proof that no evacuation actually took place but that this earlier photo was misrepresented as having been taken at Sandy Hook during the alleged shooting:

This charade–call it “the hoax within the hoax”–not only implicates the school board but Shannon Hicks, who allegedly took it but did not correct the record. The complicity of The Newtown Bee has also been demonstrated by an absurd report quoting the deceased Sandy Hook principal:

Does anyone believe The Bee‘s explanation: that someone impersonating the principal called in at the very time of the shooting to report the shooting? Does anyone think reporters for The Bee would not have known Dawn Hochsprung and have been familiar with her voice? The Bee committed a revealing gaffe.
The Parallel with 9/11

We have a parallel to the premature report by Jane Standley of the BBC that Building 7 (WTC-7), a 47-story skyscraper, had also collapsed, which in fact took place at 5:20 PM/ET. But Standley was making her report at 4:57, which meant that she was 23 minutes too early:

Just as the BBC got “ahead of the script”, The Newtown Bee got “off the script”, which would be completely inexplicable were The Bee not complicit in the Sandy Hook fraud, as the BBC was on 9/11. The BBC has never been able to explain its gaffe–and The Bee‘s explanation is simply absurd.

Another fraudulent deception

The use of an old photograph of a teacher assisting students during a drill at another school is not the only fraudulent deception using photographs to create false impressions of events at Sandy Hook. This one reversed the sign for Sandy Hook School to make it look as if the photo had been taken looking at the school, when it was actually the firehouse instead. The duplicity involved here should convince even the most die-hard believer that Sandy Hook was a hoax:

In fact, nothing like this was taking place at the school, which is no doubt why they reversed the sign to create a misleading impression. How many forms of fakery are required to convinced the true-believers that Sandy Hook was a hoax? Here is another photo, this time from a Connecticut State Police Helicopter, which–on the basis of shadow analysis–was taken at 9:15 AM/ET, which would be about 20 minutes before the first 911 call came in. So what was it doing there so early?

Notice the obvious. A Connecticut State Police chopper cannot have been dispatched to Sandy Hook for a real event before any 911 calls had been made reporting it. This photo therefore qualifies as a “smoking gun” that proves by itself that Sandy Hook was a drill and not a real event, which lends further support to the conclusion that no children actually died there and that it was designed as a psy-op to promote gun control, which Wolf believes was 2-2.5 years in planning.

Revisiting Gene Rosen

The behavior of several of the key participants in the Sandy Hook event, including especially Gene Rosen, struck me and a number of others as highly inappropriate. Gene Rosen is one of the most prolific of the Sandy Hook media stars but has given animated and conflicting statements to a series of reporters (in English and Spanish). Generally considered to be a “good Samaritan” by the mainstream media, he reportedly harbored six children from the school dropped off by a bus.
I was so struck by the crucial role of Gene Rosen that I asked a friend of mine, Alen Salerian, M.D., who had originally contacted me about JFK research, for his evaluation of Gene Rosen’s testimony as presented in the video interview we included in “Top Ten Reasons”. As the former head of the FBI Rapid Response Psychiatric Unit, I thought his opinions would clarify and illuminate what we have here:

YouTube - Veterans Today -

He wrote back on the basis of his review of the Gene Rosen interview, which we had included in our “Top Ten Reasons: Sandy Hook was an elaborate hoax”:

Gene Rosen was a key witness who corroborated the official story of the Sandy Hook elementary school killings. Rosen reported that, six children after witnessing the murder of their teacher Vicky Soto sought refuge at his home.

Mr. Rosen had already heard gunfire from an automatic weapon.

According to Mr. Rosen, the kids seemed nervous while they drank orange juice and played with stuffed animals. He never called 911. It took 15 minutes or more for the kids to begin talking about the horrific events including the death of their teacher.

Obvious inconsistencies of Gene Rosen’s statement:

A. For six kids for 15 minutes not to say anything about their frightening experience is both unlikely and psychologically impossible. Common response would be a disorganized emotional venting and vivid mental images of the events.

B. It’s unlikely and illogical for an adult not to call 911 under these conditions.

C. It is unlikely and illogical for an adult not to obtain further information from children under very unusual circumstances–an unplanned visit by six kids without an adult. It’s even more unlikely for an adult who had already heard gunfire not to call 911 nor to find out what had occurred.

D. The YouTube video of Rosen contradicts his main claim that for 15 minutes he did not know what had happened. In this video–at 22 seconds–Rosen reports concerns about the dead teacher, Ms. Vicki Soto.

Based upon A, B, C and D, it is reasonable to conclude that Gene Rosen misrepresented the truth of what occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School. It is quite reasonable to consider that Mr. Rosen was intentionally misinforming the public and the movie was filmed even before the alleged school shooting. The key evidence to support this possibility is the error in the movie regarding the death of Vicky Soto.

This error is consistent with a signature trait of preplanned crimes. For instance Pres. Kennedy’s death was published in The Christchurch Star in New Zealand before the president was assassinated. Also, BBC announced the collapse of WTC-7 on 9/11 some 23 minutes before the actual collapse. Of importance, engineered complex crimes share a common denominator of evidence of advanced planning as shown by Rosen’s video and actions.

A brief introduction to the case

I now believe that Gene Rosen’s testimony was intended (at least in part) to convey the impression that the children were evacuated by bus, but I have yet to find any photographs that substantiate their use. And here we have another parallel with 9/11, because there are good reasons to believe that all of the alleged “crash sites” were fabricated or faked, as I explained during a recent interview on “Caravan to Midnight with John B. Wells”:

YouTube - Veterans Today -

After all, if there were no plane crashes, then no passengers aboard those planes died in those crashes; and if there were no plane crashes, then there were no Islamic “hijackers” aboard who caused them to crash. And if there were no Islamic “hijackers” who caused them to crash, there is no justification for the War on Terror. For those who would like to see the visual evidence about this, consider:

YouTube - Veterans Today -

Here is a short summary of some key points about Sandy Hook from the much longer (3-hour) interview on JFK, 9/11, Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing on “Caravan to Midnight”:

YouTube - Veterans Today -

Bear in mind, if there were no children at Sandy Hook Elementary School, then no children died in a shooting that did not take place; and if no children died in a shooting, there is no justification for the massive anti-gun campaign that has been launced on the basis of “the Sandy Hook shooting”. That 600 children are missing and no buses were used to evacuate them from the school thus substantiates that this was an elaborate hoax.

Jim Fetzer, a former Marine Corps officer, is McKnight Professor Emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth. A special note of thanks to John Adelmann.

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• Sandy Hook Elementary School: closed in 2008, a stage in 2012
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11 Comments for “Newtown School Board, The Newtown Bee complicit in the Sandy Hook hoax”
1. Chandler
May 6, 2014 - 9:09 am
Excellent! All the kind and generous people who sent in money to assist these people must be wondering what happened to the donations made to them from all across the globe. Too many contradictions for me to believe it all was real. Burying kids without the parents being allowed to see them was the first major tip-off to me. No town in America has that many gullible adults. I’m sorry but, being that gullible doesn’t exist in Americans…does it? The coroner’s behavior; this idiot Rosen; other interviewees; lackadaisical behavior at the scene despite the editing. My God people, the proof is so obvious. Then, they had the nerve to do Boston. This new world odor brings with it a undeniable stench. And we are all downwind.
Don’t look for this report on your nightly six o’clock news with your pretty little gelatin talkies. Only at VT.
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2. R A FEIBEL
May 6, 2014 - 7:13 am
what has been said/printed here has been said /printed here before.and on other sites as well.what for me and i say this with all due respect to all.,is the cover-up and involvement of so many people .i have a hard time wrapping my mind around that fact and that one alone.every point made here seems to be reasonable,save the involvement of the number of people who had to have been part and parcel of this lie.and i m sure it was!but how is my question? ,maybe this school board meeting will shed more light,but i m sure they will be armed to the teeth with people who will provide excuses.
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o wolf
May 6, 2014 - 8:39 am
You ask the question that is on the lips of many, R A, and the only way I could explain it to myself is to just accept the fact that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that one better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it. Just count the cost of Truthseeking buried in the ground to substantiate that. The ‘Church Lady’ on SNL had the answer, believe it or not and Newtown is a known Satanist hub.
A gentleman named Jay Parker, who was born into a multi-generational Satanic/Illuminati family and received MONARCH trauma-based mind-control as a child, makes the claim that there are some 34 million Satanic/Illuminati Americans who keep things
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 wolf
May 6, 2014 - 8:46 am
Just google ‘Jay Parker Illuminati’ and listen to one of his interviews. Our atheist brothers and sisters may not believe in a ‘God’…but these cats DO and his agenda is not one of love, peace, truth, and beauty. It’s a big club…and your future ain’t in it. Neither is that of your children or grandchildren. Fight for truth and resist the JWO. (Resist the Devil and he will flee from thee…James 4;7)
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3. stephanaugust
May 6, 2014 - 4:40 am
As a German I have no idea for what kind of information the American FOIA can be used, but maybe you can reconstruct the timeline with the movement of the pupils to the other Newtown schools if you can get the number of pupils visiting the other schools.
When 600 pupils from one school are moved to half a dozen other schools because one school is closed, the other schools must have an increase of pupils of at least 100.
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4. Glenn Hoeft
May 6, 2014 - 4:23 am
Track down the records of utility bills for the school during past years and contracts for bus service and such to determine if the school was actually opened. Also research the contracts for supplying the “everyone must check in” sign, determine who signed the contract and when it was signed. F.A.A., must have radar records and audio records of the State Police helicopter flight and the time it arrived over the school.
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5. Simpsons Donkey
May 6, 2014 - 2:05 am
James, I’ve spent the last 3 hours with my mouth wipe open, catching flies. The breadth and depth of your knowledge is extraordinary.
It’s not been a good day on the front lines. After reading F. William Engdahl’s gut-wrenching report from Odessa, my faith in the human race has been shaken. I mistakenly followed some links I should not have and saw things I wished I hadn’t seen, even after 3 years keeping track of Syria’s jihadis.
The Argentines said, ‘Throw them ALL out!’ in 2000, and did so. It would be churlish to wonder why Americans don’t put their guns to correct use, but you may not have time to borrow Venezuela’s voting machines, which make vote fraud harder, not easier. Hitler would understand the problem.
Thanks for the illuminating hours. VT rocks.
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6. Miggy C
May 5, 2014 - 9:23 pm
I always am careful not to throw theories about other events with this one. If there is alternative media there is a deceptive force against it.
Be smart. Watch for sites that throw everything into the conspiracy camp thus discredits all.
The last video I saw of Sandy Hook looked like an hour long disection of why it was so easy to spot the lie so the next time the lie can be presented better. The video was packaged as exposing the lie but to me looked like a classroom to disect the flaws.
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7. Preston James, Ph.D
May 5, 2014 - 8:36 pm
Truly outstanding article. Prof. Fetzer has shown conclusively that Sandy Hook was a hoax, there were NO DEAD KIDS, NO DEAD TEACHERS. And it would be no surprise if there was NO ADAM LANZA, his mother or father either, all virtually created. Officer Vance made terroristic threats against journalists and must be arrested for this serious felony. He lied to other LE which is also a crime too and certainly his acts look like part of a very large scale RICO offense. He should be charged, convicted and sentenced to a very long prison term for his crimes against “We the People”, and needs his retirement retracted and all assets seized under criminal forfeiture. Watch the liars squirm and deny, deny, deny everything when confronted with the truth.
But this “controversy” has an easy solution. Exhume all imaginary bodies, DNA test all so-called parents, subpoena all birth and school records of parents and children, track all prior homes, jobs, schooling degrees, SS records, Tax returns, etc. and all legal records and watch the liars bs unravel instantly.
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o LC
May 6, 2014 - 8:06 am
RiteON Dr. James -+
Actually you can say exhume just ONE of those ghost bodies & we’ll believe them. Just like the Video compositor Ace Baker who has posted a $100,000.00 prize for anyone who brings him the ORIGINAL of JUST ONE of the 911 plane videos shown on TV.!!! NO ONE has done it because they were all fakes as he showed in his demonstration video. So is the case with the Sandy Hoax people & places & reports & reporters & fraud-casters!!!
BTW –RE ChemTrails -
Here in Los Angles County-For first time yesterday w(ith own eyes) I saw how chemtrails sprayed in jet-blue sky in the morning yesterday created thick clouds by later afternoon & this morning even light rain!!
Yesterday it was supposed to be about 80 but due to phony clouds it never exceeded about 70!!!
May be the real reason for chemtrails is cooling the sprayed areas & producing rain???
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8. Grampah
May 5, 2014 - 4:52 pm
And the US and Canadian national sports leagues, prominently “honored” the Sandy Hook “children”. I’ve never watched one second of their “bread and circuses” shows since.

a commenter at memoryhole blog in the CT lottery story, first I've heard of a documentary being made of the trip, excellent idea:

Sandy says: May 7, 2014 at 1:11 am
Wolfgang got a lot of press today in Newtown, and good footage for the documentary. The town was very hostile and a fireman shoved him in the chest with both hands. Wolf is sixty-seven years old. Fetzer witnessed the whole thing, and they filed assault and battery charges.

He faced the school board at the meeting and asked his questions – that audience was small, but the documentary audience will be much larger, Hopefully, broader public understanding of the event will force an investigation into the United Way, as well as the Connecticut Lottery. The odds of these multiple Sandy Hook winners are astronomical, and anyone can see that.