Geocentrism

There's clearly many, many unsettled things even in a trailer.

1. Universe and life is way different than we think - yes
2. Universe will run out of energy - no
3. Universe has become from nothing - no
4. Nothing is almost everything - duh, mathematicians have been saying this for a few 100 years
5. Dark energy - fantasy of folks trying to fix holes (now giant) in General Relativity theory.
6. Lots of Nobel prizes for secrets of dark matter - british scientists (now an oxymoron) are wishing to play this to the end regardless if it all falls apart
7. Universe created for us - no
8. Earth created for us - possible, by alien life forms, we may even not be their first take
9. We are the only life in entire universe - no

Watch, or not?

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Originally Posted by FreeEnergy

There's clearly many, many unsettled things even in a trailer.

1. Universe and life is way different than we think - yes
2. Universe will run out of energy - no
3. Universe has become from nothing - no
4. Nothing is almost everything - duh, mathematicians have been saying this for a few 100 years
5. Dark energy - fantasy of folks trying to fix holes (now giant) in General Relativity theory.
6. Lots of Nobel prizes for secrets of dark matter - british scientists (now an oxymoron) are wishing to play this to the end regardless if it all falls apart
7. Universe created for us - no
8. Earth created for us - possible, by alien life forms, we may even not be their first take
9. We are the only life in entire universe - no

Watch, or not?

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The main theme of the film is the challenging of the Copernican Principle. If there is no Copernican Principle, there is no need for dark energy, big bang, etc. All the mythology gets stripped out. If there is no Copernican Principle, the tower they built over the last 400 years collapses, and we are back to our observations.

so john do all the members here get a free down load of the movie

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Originally Posted by JohnQPublic

If there is no Copernican Principle, the tower they built over the last 400 years collapses, and we are back to our observations.

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Who is this, they?

And if there is a "they" side, who is this "our" side?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-7BeEkYwgk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFc4wriBvE

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Originally Posted by Horn

Who is this, they?

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The so-called "scientific community."

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Originally Posted by Horn

And if there is a "they" side, who is this "our" side?

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Those who prefer reality to "consensus."

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Originally Posted by crimethink

Those who prefer reality to "consensus."

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Reality is you're standing on the face of Earth, and Foucault proved you're rotating.

If Earth were center of the universe you would in some form be statically clung to the moon.

Though there is a distinct possibility that parts of you are orbiting around it.

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Originally Posted by Horn

Reality is you're standing on the face of Earth, and Foucault proved you're rotating.

If Earth were center of the universe you would in some form be statically clung to the moon.

Though there is a distinct possibility that parts of you are orbiting around it.

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I am not convinced of a particular theory of cosmology, though I think "the Big Bang" and associated claims are garbage. Earth is almost certainly rotating. And yes, the rest of the universe could also be rotating - faster. But nothing we think we know is certain. That is unlike the so-called "scientific community" that proclaims they do "know" when they don't or even can't.

I look forward to The Principle because it appears to be well-put-together, and, the "scientific community" is in an uproar over it. If it's nonsense, why fear it? Their reaction is religious fanatic-like in intensity.

As it stands all science and any point of fact or theory is hypotheses and best guesses until something better trumps the current line of thinking! Two things that are certain birth and then death, and death (physical) raises the hotly debated but can not be proven nor answered question that is there something beyond for the soul or id !

Almost everything in life is conjecture!

imo

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Originally Posted by crimethink

I am not convinced of a particular theory of cosmology, though I think "the Big Bang" and associated claims are garbage. Earth is almost certainly rotating. And yes, the rest of the universe could also be rotating - faster. But nothing we think we know is certain. That is unlike the so-called "scientific community" that proclaims they do "know" when they don't or even can't.

I look forward to The Principle because it appears to be well-put-together, and, the "scientific community" is in an uproar over it. If it's nonsense, why fear it? Their reaction is religious fanatic-like in intensity.

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I imagine the film doesn't use their interviews in whole, but in part splice fashion to create an "aura" or bend the curvature of space time in the movie's pointed direction.

I don't view the "scientific community" being anywhere near a so called "towering" impasse, in fact everything is turning up and out to appear quite weak in most instances.

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Originally Posted by Dogman

Almost everything in life is conjecture!

imo

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Now you've gone straight from Worshipful Master, to Sitting Bull.