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Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Las Vegas Metro PD planting evidence on Ryan Bundy's friend Omar Qazi
Published on Sep 19, 2017 This is Omar Qazi, friend of Ryan Bundy. According to Ryan Omar "watches over Cliven" in NSDC. Omar has spent many hours sitting side by side with Ryan working on court documents as well as several other defendant in the US vs CLIVEN BUNDY case. Ryan would appreciate the patriots spreading this video far and wide to expose the corruption not only in Omars and the Bundy's case but the corruption that runs rampant throughout this alleged "justice system". Thank you for watching. Please watch and share.
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Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Posted by Rick Lovelein's sister after his 'not guilty' verdict regarding hate mail she received on a regular basis.
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to the person in Kansas who so diligently sent letters to me every week following my brother's arrest by the FBI...
I miss your letters, you never included your name or return address so I am unable to congratulate you on having your prayers answered. You shared with me that you prayed daily he got exactly what he deserved and now, he has been 100% EXONERATEDhttps://www.facebook.com/images/emoj...1/16/1f60a.png so.....
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Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
With 1000 FBI agents assigned to the Bundy Protest on social media etc., how they escalated the situation with lies and deceit.
The Bundy Affair has pulled back the curtain revealing the amount of corruption in the federal government.
Note: I deleted the last message between this FBI goon and Bailey Bundy, V-Bulletin limits 10 images.
Undercover Agent Purposefully Raised Threat Of Impending Attack During Bundy Ranch Cattle Impoundment
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GMN – BUNDY RANCH
During the first trial in Las Vegas, Nevada against Bundy Ranch protestors caught up in a surprising show of force by Federal Law Enforcement, the FBI admitted on the stand that 1,000 FBI and other Federal officers were assigned to surveil the Bundy family and their closest followers on social media. One of those agents was Robyn Kirkham, a Bureau of Land Management Agent who under the direction of former BLM (SAC) Daniel P. Love, began her surveillance sometime in January of 2014. Dan Love was recently fired from his position of Special Law Enforcement with the Bureau Of Land Management for misconduct and various other criminal acts including directing evidence custodians to procure him choice ancient artifacts collected during raids on collectors so he could give them to friends including agents in the FBI.
BLM Agent Robyn Kirkham known as “Alex Branson on FaceBook”, contacted Bailey Bundy Logue in March of 2014 on Facebook. Bailey, who is the daughter of Cliven Bundy says that in those messages Agent Kirkham “aka” Alex Branson, tells her that she was involved in a group of “like minded” people in Cedar City, Utah and would like to help the Bundy family with protest they may be planning against the Bureau of Land Management’s upcoming cattle impoundment. She then ask if there are any plans coming up to protest —
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Bailey Bundy with her father Cliven Bundy on her wedding day
The messages take on a more urgent feel after Kirkum tells Bailey Bundy that she is good friends with someone inside the Las Vegas Metro Police Department who is sympathetic to the Bundy cause. She routinely alerts Cliven’s daughter, that her intel inside Metro PD is telling her “lots of cops” are coming down there, and that the BLM is starting to get “VERY” busy. At one point she tells her that her inside person is now advising that the BLM had an MRAP delivered to the compound.
Bailey Bundy says, that she had no reason to suspect Alex Branson was not legitimate because many locals were keeping an eye on the situation for them, giving them promises of support, and information. “Looking at those messages now makes me angry to think Alex Branson was setting us up from the beginning to believe we were in danger just so she could see how we would react and find out what we would do next” says Bailey . She goes on to say,
I wasn’t afraid because I didn’t know I should be afraid at the time if that makes any sense, I just thought she was trying to help; but it did make me sick to re-read these messages knowing now what she was trying to do. To purposefully make us think we needed protection caused so many problems that never needed to happen.
The Bureau of Land Management’s impound operation was so terribly handled it has many people asking; When will a complete investigation on Daniel P. Love’s actions at Bundy Ranch be investigated?
In the meanwhile, be careful who you’re talking to on FaceBook —- You just never know.
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Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Loren Pierce writes more on the lying deceitful federal government
THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS
LOOKING AT HOW PROSECUTORS, WITNESSES AND LAW ENFORCEMENT USE LIES IN THE BUNDY ET AL CASE
May 8, 2017 government, Opinion 2
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THE END JUSTIFIES THE MEANS: LYING FOR THE GREATER GOOD
Looking at how prosecutors, witnesses and law enforcement use lies in the Bundy et al case
by Loren Edward Pearce
I first learned the phrase, “the end justifies the means” during the cold war with the Soviet Union. I was taught that the “evil empire” regularly used lies and deception as a normal tool in furtherance of their state interests. The Soviets, I understood, had made lying a science, taking it to heretofore unknown levels of effectiveness.
The use of lies, knowingly using false statements and untruths, became an integral part of Soviet society and was the glue that kept the party leaders in control. Even their state run newspaper, Pravda, was a lie, because Pravda meant “Truth”. Of course, the implication was that the USA was not guilty of such practices as the Soviet Union and therefore, it was simple case of the good guys against the bad guys.
Machiavelli is credited with coining the phrase, “the end justifies the means” but there is no proof that he actually said it. But his writings conveyed the same idea, that morality was relative to what was needed, and what was justified to maintain power, depended on the circumstances. If lies and deception were necessary to gain and maintain power for a greater good (greater good was defined by the ones seeking power) then it was justified. Niccolò Machiavelli
ALL IS FAIR IN LOVE AND WAR
Divorce lawyers make it a standard practice to tell clients that the person that they were married to, now that divorce is a reality, is no longer the person you once knew. Divorce is all out war and the rules of morality, of telling the truth, go out the window. Of course, there are exceptions and some couples manage to divorce amicably and without stomping on their morals, but it is more the exception than the rule. Lying In Family Court By Bill Eddy, LCSW, Esq.
In courts in general, the incidence of lying and intentionally not telling the whole truth is known to be very high. So much so, that it has become a joke that when one raises their arm to testify under oath, the raised arm triggers a mechanism for lying and, once again, the end justifies the means, winning is everything and a strategy of well thought out lies and falsehoods is just good lawyering.
Undoubtedly, no other situation applies the adage that the end justifies the means, like war whether it be world war, or war among two or more individuals. However, war between nations or states, whether hot or cold wars, brings out the use of lies and deception like nothing else. Sun Tsu, the author of “The Art of War” said, “An accomplished deceiver will have greater success in evading predators and resisting human combatants than a person who lacks this skill.”
It is my premise and proposition, that the never-ending wars around the globe, sponsored by the USA, serve as a training ground for learning how to lie for the greater good and that, accomplished deceivers are highly valued persons whose skills can be applied in their jobs domestically, back home in the states. Many veterans of these foreign wars come back and work as law enforcement, private security, government employees and prison staff. While overseas, they learned how to lie and deceive for the greater good of their team, and they enjoyed success. If their lying is effective and admired by others, they may get formal and informal rewards. However, the key component to their lying was to keep it outside the brother and sisterhood, the lying was directed at the enemy, not to each other. The fabric of the team is jeopardized if the habit of lying begins to be used internally. This is similar to the famous saying, “There is honor among thieves”, because the thief syndicate could not be successful if there was not integrity among themselves.
In a well known documentary, “Dirty Wars”, an investigative reporter in Afghanistan, shows how lying and deception are used with the local people to cover up mistakes by the military. Lying, disinformation and distortion of the truth are perfectly acceptable practices if it is for the greater good, protecting the organization and the mission.
Further revelations of cover-ups, dishonesty, lies and deception have been manifested by famous whistleblowers, Snowden and Assange. Although they are recognized for exposing the truth, politicians and power brokers condemn them as violators of the moral imperative, to protect the greater good (as defined by them) at all costs.
THE LAS VEGAS TRIALS OF THE BUNDY ET AL DEFENDANTS: PROTECTING THE FEDERAL TEAM’S MISSION BY LYING
Having sat through a few days of trial and having spoken to observers who were there the whole time, the conscience was shocked as it was observed, first hand, the principles of lying, of prevarication, of half truths, of truth distortion and of cover-up for what they would consider to be for the greater cause, the protection of the organization and its mission.
Take, for example, the testimonies of the local law enforcement and BLM agents who were on the scene during the Bunkerville protest. In a shocking display of manipulative and disingenuous behavior, the law enforcement officials testified under oath and with tears and emotional breakdowns, of their fear that they would not see their families again. The proof that they were lying is found in the hundreds of photographs showing the Las Vegas Metro, the Nevada State Patrol and the Sheriff’s staff, mingling, joking and socializing with the protesters. Furthermore, video is available showing BLM agents in a state of frivolity and disrespectful humor regarding who they would shoot first and general mockery of the protesters.
There was not the slightest hint of fear or sense of threat manifested by law enforcement towards the protesters. Many of the protesters openly carried guns in front of law enforcement in a normal display of open carry, common in Nevada and in the west.
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Ryan Bundy with holstered 6 shooter, coordinating with local police on April 12, 2014
WHY POLICE LIE AND GET AWAY WITH IT
The author of, “Why Police Lie Under Oath”, Michelle Alexander, quotes a San Francisco Police Commissioner, “Police officer perjury in court to justify illegal dope searches is commonplace. One of the dirty little not-so-secret secrets of the criminal justice system is undercover narcotics officers intentionally lying under oath. It is a perversion of the American justice system that strikes directly at the rule of law. Yet it is the routine way of doing business in courtrooms everywhere in America.”
Alexander goes on to say, “Mr. Keane, in his Chronicle article, offered two major reasons the police lie so much. First, because they can. Police officers ‘know that in a swearing match between a drug defendant and a police officer, the judge always rules in favor of the officer.’ At worst, the case will be dismissed, but the officer is free to continue business as usual. Second, criminal defendants are typically poor and uneducated, often belong to a racial minority, and often have a criminal record. ‘Police know that no one cares about these people,’ Mr. Keane explained.
Why Police Lie Under Oath – The New York Times By MICHELLE ALEXANDER FEB. 2, 2013
Police, like military, are part of a fraternal order of other officers and have learned that in the end, the greater good of the fraternal order, justifies lying and covering up. They are often trained to set themselves apart from the civilian population, cultivating a “we against them” attitude. They can only trust a fellow officer, the civilian is guilty until proven innocent.
When Ryan Bundy was in the Oregon prison, Ammon, his brother, sent out an urgent call to intervene for Ryan as he had been beaten up by the guards. As reported by Ammon and later confirmed by Ryan, the U.S. Marshals came to get Ryan early one morning, claiming that he had a court hearing. Ryan responded by saying he knew of no court hearing and that in the past, he had always been informed ahead of time by his counsel. The marshals insisted that he come with them. Ryan, smelling a rat, began to complain and that eventually led to the beating. The marshals took custody of the beat up Ryan and while driving him, confessed that there was no court hearing but that they wanted to remove the bullet in his shoulder. Ryan said that he had not given his consent to have the bullet removed and that he would resist and not cooperate. The marshals, knowing that a physician would not operate on a non-compliant patient, drove Ryan around aimlessly until finally depositing him at the court house where he sat for hours, under guard, for no reason. He was finally brought back to the prison.
Once again, we see that lying and deception are standard operating procedures by law enforcement under the notion that the greater good of the organization justifies the dishonesty.
ENTERING A ROOM OF DARKNESS: THE WORLD OF LIES AND FALSEHOODS
The Bundy et al case, is one among thousands that exposes a dark world of lying for the greater good, as defined by the person doing the lying. Lying, like torture, is a journey once embarked upon, leads to a world where there are no limits and the outcome is opposite of growth and progression. If one can lie and torture, the enemy can too, and it becomes a game of one up man ship.
Lying is like socialism. Socialism can only survive as long as there is money and resources that can be taken from others, for the greater good of the collective. Once other people’s money runs out, then socialism collapses. Like a large pyramid scheme, socialism is parasitical in robbing Peter to pay Paul. But when Peter no longer can pay, then Paul must find it someplace else, robbing others beyond there own borders. The writer is currently in Colombia and Colombia is experiencing a surge in crime and robbery as Venezuelans pour over the border looking for new victims, having exhausted the resources in Venezuela. There is nothing that justifies this.
Likewise, lying is parasitical, it depends on a source of gullible or unwary victims to be successful. It depends on teamwork, just like socialism. But when the victims are exhausted or if they have woken up to being used, then the liars must look for new victims, to keep the pyramid scheme going.
When people lie in court or they lie throughout their life, they depend on a never ending supply of people who believe their lies. Somebody once said that the definition of hell is where everybody is a liar and everybody seeks to be a better liar.
Jesus Christ said of lying,
“You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” John 8:44 (NIV) (KJV) (ESV)
Do we want lying to become our native language? If we continue down the road that we are on as a nation, then none of us will escape the inevitable collapse of our society, one built on a foundation of lies and dishonesty.
For an excellent discussion of lying and how it destroys the fabric of society, see:
Deception in Morality and Law
- Larry Alexander – University of San Diego
- Emily Sherwin – Cornell Law School
The end justifies the means. – From: The Free DictionaryProv. You can use bad or immoral methods as long as you accomplish something good by using them. (Not everyone agrees with this idea.) Lucy got money for the orphanage by embezzling it from the firm where she worked. “The end justifies the means,” she toldherself. The politician clearly believed that the end justifies the means, since he used allkinds of nefarious means to get elected.
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More legislature letters are needed to keep the pressure on Sessions, Myhre and gang. If one can create panic more will add to the panic
Legislators Need to Keep Up the Pressure
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS THROWING A TANTRUM AND RETALIATING AGAINST THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY.
September 23, 2017 BLM, Featured, Idaho, Opinion
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Legislators Need to Keep Up the Pressure
Editorial by Shari Dovale
We recently reported updates from the upcoming Bunkerville Standoff trial. This included updates on Todd Engel and his upcoming sentencing on two lesser charges.
It was revealed that Engel’s first Pre-Sentencing Report (PSR) recommended roughly 12 years, after corrections were made to the calculations to remove points for an invalid charge.
However, add in a letter written by Liberty Legislators who actually stand up for their constituents, and the Federal government throws a tantrum and decides to retaliate.
A majority of elected officials in Idaho, including US Congressman Raul Labrador, stepped up to the plate and showed that they intend to do what they were elected to do, that is fight for their citizens.
Since this letter was delivered to US Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the Federal Probation department decided to revisit Engel’s sentencing recommendations. They are now recommending he be incarcerated for as many years as is possible, in excess of 20 years.
The Federal government is having a conniption fit over this letter. They are striking back and retaliating. And, they are taking it out on the political prisoners, beginning with Todd Engel.
Did the letter hurt Engel and the other political prisoners? Not at all, it actually helped them.
Do not misunderstand. The government would have done most of this anyway, if they could have. They would have tried to have Engel sentenced to life in prison, if they thought they could get away with it. However, the letter forced them to takes their shades off and fully expose themselves.
They filed a PSR in June of this year. Why then, all of a sudden, have they decided to revisit this report? Why then, all of a sudden, have they changed their minds and decided to increase their recommendation?
The letter was delivered to AG Sessions on a Friday. It was the following Monday when the prosecution began making overtures of plea deals to the defendants. Myhre and crew are scrambling to try to salvage whatever they can.
Remember: The pressure on the prosecutors began after the letter was delivered. If this letter can make the prosecution panic, what do you think a few more letters can do?
We need more Liberty Legislators from other states to step up and declare their support for citizen rights! There is talk from other states, like Montana, Nevada and Arizona, that they are considering writing similar letters. This would help these defendants tremendously!
The more elected officials that stand up for citizen’s rights, the better the chances for these defendants to see real justice.
I applaud Congressman Labrador, and each of the representatives that signed the Idaho letter, for leading the charge to bring this country back to the US Constitution.
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Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Department of Interior deputy secretary blasts Dan Love, but a deafening silence from Secretary Zinke, AG Jeff Sessions and President Trump.
Interior boss blasts fired Utah BLM law enforcement agent
Posted on September 26, 2017 by Doug Knowles
In memo to Interior employees, deputy secretary makes example of controversial ex-Utah BLM lawman Dan Love, vow to clean up land agencies and protect those who report abuse.
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A top Interior Department official has singled out the recent firing of a controversial Bureau of Land Management agent over Utah to illustrate a renewed commitment to hold accountable senior employees who misuse their official positions and to protect those who report such abuse.
Dan Love, who once led law enforcement for the BLM’s Nevada and Utah state offices, was fired not long after an Aug. 24 report from Interior’s Office of Inspector General (OIG) faulting him a second time for official misconduct, according to a memo circulated Friday by Deputy Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt.
The memo to Interior employees also mentioned another supervisory lawman recently fired in the wake of another OIG probe. That report concluded Edwin Correa engaged in sexual harassment while serving as chief ranger at Canaveral National Seashore in Florida.
“We will hold people accountable when we are informed that they have failed in their duties and obligations,” Bernhardt wrote. “Although the law in large part prevents dissemination of the details of actions taken, I am sharing these examples because you need to know that the Department has taken concrete disciplinary action in cases of serious misconduct, including those involving senior officials.”
For years, Utah political leaders have been demanding Love’s removal, citing what they say was the BLM’s unwillingness under his leadership to coordinate with local law enforcement. But what cost Love his job turned on pilfering of evidence, wringing coveted access at the Burning Man arts festival for friends and family, pressuring underlings to conceal evidence of wrongdoing and other examples of misconduct documented in two reports released this year by Interior’s OIG.
It was Love’s alleged arrogance toward local law enforcement that rankled Utah leaders. Complaints against his leadership were instrumental in motivating both federal and state legislation that sought to strip federal land agencies of law enforcement authority, including a bill most recently filed by former Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz before he left office this year.
While chairing the House Oversight Committee, the Utah Republican lambasted then-National Park Service director Jonathan Jarvis for his handling of the Correa matter and other reports of sexual harassment made by parks staff.
Utah’s Rep. Rob Bishop said he welcomed Love’s exit from federal service.
“The previous administration turned a blind eye to corruption and promoted a culture of mismanagement at the Department of the Interior,” said Bishop, taking aim at the leadership of former Interior Secretary Sally Jewell. “I applaud Interior for taking a strong stand and reasserting the basic principle that there are consequences for federal employees who blatantly disregard the law and steamroll elected officials and public trust.”
Perhaps the most telling part of Bernhardt’s memo was his pronouncement that Interior will listen to staffers who come forward with reports of wrongdoing at supervisory levels. The accusations affirmed by the OIG were brought to light by employees who did not confront Love directly or report his alleged misconduct to superiors out of fear of retribution or loss of their jobs.
Bernhardt, a former energy-industry lobbyist recently picked by President Donald Trump to serve as No. 2 at Interior, said such employees no longer have to worry.
“As it is vitally important for the health of the [Interior] Department that employees disclose misconduct they witness or experience, the Department is committed to protecting those who step forward from retaliation,” Bernhardt‘s memo said. “Therefore, I will also make this clear: the Department must be free from any retaliation or reprisal for reports of misconduct and I expect every leader to ensure this.”
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Judge denies Cliven Bundy's request to represent himself
Judge rejects Cliven Bundy’s request to represent himself
Posted on September 27, 2017 by Doug Knowles
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Whipple represents rancher Cliven Bundy in his criminal case. Brett Le Blanc/Las Vegas Review-Journal Follow @bleblancphoto
By David Ferrara Las Vegas Review-Journal
September 27, 2017 – 1:59 pm
A judge on Wednesday denied Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy’s request to represent himself at trial next month on charges related to a 2014 standoff with the Bureau of Land Management.
Defense attorney Bret Whipple, whom Bundy retained, filed court papers last week in which he asked to withdraw from Bundy’s case.
U.S. Magistrate Judge Peggy Leen asked Bundy a series of questions in order to determine whether he could act as his own lawyer in what is expected to be a lengthy trial with six other defendants.
When Leen asked whether Bundy was ready for the trial, set to begin Oct. 10, he replied, “Well I doubt it.” But he added that he was not asking to postpone the trial.
As the judge inquired further about his understanding of trial procedures, Bundy said, “I understand very little of it, but I reserve my right to do the best I can.”
Leen read through the charges against Bundy, while the acting U.S. Attorney detailed the possible sentences, which could land Bundy in prison for the rest of his life.
The judge decided Whipple should remain as the trial attorney.
One of the rancher’s sons, Ryan, who also is a defendant in the case, already represents himself.
Angela Dows, Ryan Bundy’s standby attorney, also has asked to withdraw from the case, citing a “repugnant” correspondence from the defendant and a “fundamental disagreement” between the two. No ruling has been made on that request.
Prosecutors have alleged that Cliven Bundy, a Gold Butte rancher, conspired to thwart the federal government’s roundup of roughly 1,000 cows from public land near Bunkerville in April 2014.
Others scheduled for the October trial are Ammon Bundy, Ryan Payne, Pete Santilli, Scott Drexler and Eric Parker.
It will be the third trial in the case.
While jurors from the first trial could not decide on charges against four men, the panel returned convictions against two standoff participants: Arizona resident Gregory Burleson and Idaho resident Todd Engel. Burleson received a 68-year prison term, and Engel is awaiting sentencing.
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Just make this case go away . . .
Bunkerville Standoff: Make This Case Go Away!
JURY SELECTION IS SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 10TH.
September 28, 2017 BLM, Constitution, Featured 2
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Bunkerville Standoff: Make This Case Go Away!
By Shari Dovale
The pressure from the elected officials and the public have made a dramatic difference in the Bunkerville Standoff case. Plea deals are being offered for multiple defendants this week.
Rumors abound that the prosecution is acting as if they have been told to “make this case go away”. There have been offers of plea agreements given to several defendants, including Ryan Payne, Pete Santilli, Eric Parker and Scott Drexler. There have been NO reports of any acceptance of offers, but negotiations continue.
Speculation is also running on possible plea agreements for other defendants scheduled for trial later, including Mel and Dave Bundy.
Now is the time to double-down on the letters and phone calls! Keep up the pressure! Let AG Sessions know what a miscarriage of justice this case has become. It is working!
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Cliven Bundy
Cliven Bundy, patriarch of the Bundy Family, had recently fired his attorney, Bret Whipple. Whipple did not complain as he had not received any payment for sometime, therefore had not done any recent work towards preparing for the upcoming trial. He filed a motion for an expedited hearing to be released from the case.
A hearing on Whipple’s motion was held on Wednesday. Cliven argued quite well that he was prepared to defend himself. He admitted that he may not be completely up on every point, but he felt ready to proceed and was not asking for any delay in the trial.
Magistrate Leen heard the motion and proceeded to argue with Bundy for nearly 45 minutes, pointing out all the obvious problems with defending himself. Bundy stood firm in his decision, however, Leen decided to deny Bundy his right to self-representation.
Leen has ordered Whipple to continue as Bundy’s attorney. Whipple asked for a sealed hearing to discuss the financial aspect of this order. We are told that Whipple argued that a 3-month trial with no payment could bankrupt him. Leen decided then to make Whipple a court-appointed attorney to Bundy so he will be paid from the same funds as the other attorneys.
Basically, the Magistrate has enslaved Whipple to this trial, not giving him any options for release, and she has also enslaved Bundy to Whipple, though they both admit to a breakdown in their attorney-client relationship.
Other highlights from the hearing include Bundy objecting repeatedly to the prosecutors even being present for this hearing, as he felt that they should have no say in his choice of counsel. Leen made note of his (multiple) objections on this point, but did not address it further.
Prosecutors originally attempted to indict Bundy, and his sons Ammon and Ryan, under the RICO Act, calling them an organized crime family. This strategy did not work out quite so well for them. AUSA Myhre has turned this case into a personal vendetta. You would think that Cliven ran off with his Christmas stocking.
Hearings in preparation for the upcoming trial will continue next week. Jury selection is scheduled for October 10th.
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Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher
Deb Jordan is asking that everyone read the latest motion filed by Pete Santilli. I copy/pasted her facebook post explaining her thinking:
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I know many of you have supported the role the Independent Journalist Peter Thomas Santilli played during his time @ Bundy Ranch that ultimately led to his incarceration and for that we are grateful. The time has now come for him to go to trial where he is not only fighting for his rights as a journalist but also those rights of many of you who live-stream and push-out information via the internet on a regular basis. With this answer to and the challenging of the Governments Motion in Limine Pete Santilli via his attorney Chris Rasmussen with the help of The Rutherford Institute, and Tom Coan, Pete's attorney in Portland for the Malheur Refuge Case --
has laid out his defense in the simplest terms, and it it is compelling. Pete cannot express to you all --
even those who do not support him, to understand the enormity of this case the government has brought against him and how it will ultimately effect each and everyone who uses the internet to broadcast their form of journalism and especially those who attend protests across the nation to live-stream those events in real-time. Real Time Journalism is a new media that was pioneered by Pete Santilli during his coverage of the Bundy Ranch and Malhuer Refuge --
Staying at both events for their entirety, Pete had audiences larger than mainstream media and let the imagery his camera captured speak for itself, but more importantly he narrated those videos as best he could, what he was seeing, feeling, and experiencing on the ground. The Government would love nothing more than to punish Pete simply because he didn't dress, act, or talk like the more conventional media on the ground during these two events, turning his investigative reporting into a crime because he successfully uncovered the absolute criminal actions of the Bureau Of Land Management's mismanagement of the Bundy Ranch cattle impound. His footage was real and raw and the public could see for themselves what was happening. It is my hope that those who take the time to read this motion filed just moments ago understand the full implications, if Pete Santilli is found guilty. Pete Santilli faces life in prison for a crime he did not commit.
Pete would like for you all to know that it is not just he who faces this trial ahead of him -- The government took my brand and criminalized it, he says, Because I wore camo when I reported at Bundy Ranch they labeled me a criminal. Because I said it was okay to bring weapons to an event being held on private property they call me a conspirator. I am none of those things -- I'm just non-conforming press, and they hate me for it.
As a side note -- Pete Santilli will not be joining the motion to sever from Ryan
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Peter Santilli's attorney dropped a bombshell when he announced Santilli has accepted a plea bargain
A lot of motions have been filed that I have not posted. They are posted on https://itmattershowyoustand.com/ along with other developments related to the trial.
Pete Santilli Accepts Felony Plea Deal
DEFENSE TEAMS ARE SCRAMBLING TO PRESERVE SANTILLI'S MOTIONS AND SUBPOENAS
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Pete Santilli Accepts Felony Plea Deal
by Shari Dovale
Pete Santilli’s attorney dropped a bombshell in a Las Vegas courtroom today when he stated that his client has reached a plea agreement with the government.
Chris Rasmussen, Santilli’s attorney, also withdrew every motion their team has filed based on the plea deal.
The agreement includes Santilli agreeing to a Felony count of obstruction of justice, based on his blocking a BLM truck prior to the Bunkerville standoff.
Santilli will receive ‘time served’ and is expected to be released within the next few days. No other details have been released for this deal.
Defense teams are scrambling to preserve Santilli’s motions and subpoenas related to the upcoming trial, as it is scheduled for jury selection to begin next week.
In related events, Ryan Payne has withdrawn his request to represent himself at the upcoming trial. Payne originally filed a late night motion to represent himself due to his disagreement with his court-appointed attorneys attempt to sever his case from that of Ryan Bundy.
Attorneys for Eric Parker and Scott Drexler had joined Payne’s attorneys in that motion.
Ryan Bundy and his brother Ammon were not at the hearing today. They did not participate in the ‘strip search’ before leaving the Pahrump facilities. Additionally, they did not take part in the hearing via telephone. We were told that they had the phones made available to them, yet they chose not to participate in this manner.
A Faretta hearing had been scheduled today for Ryan Bundy, in which it would be determined if he was competent to represent himself in this case. That hearing was rescheduled for Friday, Oct. 6th.
Judge Gloria Navarro made it clear today that if these two defendants were not in attendance, either in person or by telephone, she would take that as a waiving of their rights. Navarro would expect to rule that Ryan would not be allowed to represent himself as he will be showing that he cannot follow the rules of the court.
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Quote:
Ryan Bundy and his brother Ammon were not at the hearing today. They did not participate in the ‘strip search’ before leaving the Pahrump facilities. Additionally, they did not take part in the hearing via telephone. We were told that they had the phones made available to them, yet they chose not to participate in this manner.
A Faretta hearing had been scheduled today for Ryan Bundy, in which it would be determined if he was competent to represent himself in this case. That hearing was rescheduled for Friday, Oct. 6th.
Judge Gloria Navarro made it clear today that if these two defendants were not in attendance, either in person or by telephone, she would take that as a waiving of their rights. Navarro would expect to rule that Ryan would not be allowed to represent himself as he will be showing that he cannot follow the rules of the court.
So don't allow them to come to the court, and thus they are deemed to being incompetent in representing themselves?
I have no idea if this is what happened, but it could be how they wrap it up.
The heart of the injustice system...
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Only the accused received severe injuries, govt. personell none.
Bunkerville Protest: Severe Injuries Only To The Accused
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The Bunkerville Protest:
A One Way Street With Severe Injuries Only To The Accused
by Loren Edward Pearce
Recently, I spoke with Angie Bundy, wife of Ryan Bundy, about the people who were physically injured, abused and emotionally harassed by agents of the federal government.
The federal government has sought to suppress any evidence of the injuries and harm done to the accused defendants, while at the same time, present witnesses, testimony and evidence that showed harm done to the government agents who were simply “doing their jobs” in events related to Bunkerville.
SAVED FROM THE FRYING PAN, ONLY TO BE THROWN INTO THE FIRE
Margaret Houston, sister to Cliven Bundy, is shown in a video being grabbed by an agent of the federal government and thrown to the ground. Margaret is a grandmother and mother of several children.
The agent claims that he was trying to protect Margaret from being hit by the government truck. However, the video unequivocally, and without any doubt, shows that the agent used unnecessary and excessive force on Margaret. In football, the tackle of Margaret by the agent would be considered “roughing the passer".
If Margaret would have been the mother or a loved one of the agent, it can be guaranteed that he would not have used that kind of force on someone he cared about in the attempt to protect that person from being hit by the truck. The agent could have saved a person he cared about in a way that assured that she was not saved from the frying pan only to be thrown into the fire.
Defense attorneys sought to have Margaret testify to show the excessive force used, and the judge, at the urging of her prosecutor team, denied the defense request, claiming that Margaret’s testimony and the video, were not relevant to the case.
TASERED THREE TIMES
Ammon Bundy, son of Cliven Bundy, was also seen on video as he challenged the government agents on the need to tear down and haul away ranch property, including water installations.
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Ammon Bundy was tasered by Bureau of Land Management officers during a protest near Bunkerville, NV in 2014 (John Locher/AP)
With no firearms or weapons on any of the protesters, well armed federal agents used attack dogs on the protesters. On the video, it can be seen that the attack dog attempted to bite Ammon, without any justified provocation. In self-defense, Ammon kicked the dog. At that point, the federal agent shot Ammon with a taser. Ammon grabbed the taser and tore it out of his chest. The agent tasered Ammon two more times although Ammon had not demonstrated any aggression, and with each attack, Ammon refused to go down and tore the taser hooks out of his body. It appears that the subsequent taser attacks were out of spite because the agent wanted to see Ammon go down.
In photos, Ammon shows the injuries from the tasers.
USING THEIR BOOTS, AGENTS GRIND HIS FACE INTO THE GRAVEL
Angie Bundy was eye witness to the attack on Dave Bundy.
Angie explains that Dave Bundy, along with other family members were instructed by Cliven Bundy to take cameras to a places where they might find federal agents stealing private property, including water installations.
Cliven gave clear instructions to do nothing to provoke the agents and to silently film the activities of the federal agents from a public place, according to their first amendment right to do so.
Not knowing for sure where the agents would emerge onto the highway from the ranch property, Dave Bundy chose an access road on the highway from Bunkerville to Riverside, Nevada. Dave parked his car legally on the shoulder, and as he speculated, the agents did eventually come onto the highway from the access road with trucks full of private property.
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Davey Bundy
Upon seeing Dave filming them, agents are shown on film commanding Dave to cease filming and to leave the area. Without answering them and remaining silent, Dave stood his ground and continued filming.
Thanks to a dashcam video that was part of discovery and was leaked to the public, the agents can be heard threatening Dave.
At the same time, a white van with Ryan and Angie Bundy and their two daughters, can be seen stopping to check on Dave. The agents threaten Ryan that he will be arrested if tries to intervene and he is ordered to leave.
Angie said at the same time, the agents attacked Dave and brought him to the ground, grinding his face into the gravel on the dirt shoulder. Angie said that her daughters became hysterical as they witnessed their uncle being beat up by federal agents. For their welfare, Ryan chose to drive away following the attack on Dave.
Angie said that Dave never said a word. Contrary to later accusations by the government, Dave never cussed, swore at or threatened the agents. He remained silent throughout the attack.
It is important to note that the government’s “clear and convincing evidence of dangerousness” that was used under the unconstitutional Bail Reform Act to justify the over 600 days of pretrial, non-conviction imprisonment, is clearly rebutted and refuted by the actions of Dave and Ryan Bundy that day. The instinctual reaction of any decent person would be to intervene on behalf of a loved one who has done nothing wrong and who is being abused by other people, regardless of their uniform or their alleged authority. Ryan controlled those instincts and drove away, further testimony to his non-violent tendencies.
Angie went on to say that accusations by the government that Dave Bundy posted on social media that he would like to get even with the agent who ground his face in the gravel, is false. It was those false accusations that the government used to get him over 600 days of pretrial, non-conviction prison.
ILLEGAL AND UNNECESSARY FORCE IN MOAPA, NEVADA
Angie revealed that there was an incident in which some young men, the Kelly brothers, were found within the restricted boundaries that the government agents had set up. Angie explained that the government had set up a restricted area covering many thousands of acres. Local residents and uninformed visitors, like these young men, did not know where these boundaries were nor that there was a restricted area.
Upon being caught by agents, some of the young men were roughed up in the process of being arrested. From the video, one can say that the injuries to one of the young men, the bruises and abrasions on the face, are almost identical to what happened to Dave Bundy. Angie says that, of the injuries sustained to the several protesters, Dave’s and the young man in Moapa sustained the most serious injuries.
INTENTIONAL LIES PROPOGATED BY THE GOVERNMENT
CREATES EXTREME STRESS AND EMOTIONAL INJURY
Angie referred to an incident in which Ryan and other family members, including their daughters, drove up to Richfield, Utah where an auction was being held to sell the confiscated cattle. The plan was to exercise their right to peaceably assemble and to protest.
To assure that there was no problem, they called the sheriff and told him about their plans. He gave them clear instructions what they could do and not do to avoid run afoul of the law. They told him they would abide by his instructions.
At the auction, one of Ryan’s daughters had to use the restroom. Ryan took her to the auction office and without saying anything other than a greeting to office staff, the daughter used the restroom.
However, the government, in their attempt to justify the pretrial, pre-conviction imprisonment of Ryan, claimed that he threatened the auctioneer if he followed through with the sale of the cattle. Angie said that she may be compelled to have her daughter get on the witness stand to testify under oath that there were no threats made to anybody and that their intent was to peacefully protest the sale according to the instructions of the sheriff.
We have seen numerous other examples of lies used by the prosecution to assure that they win, at all costs, even at the expense of the truth. These intentional lies and deceptions create extreme distress and emotional suffering because:
- It shatters our sense of security because the government is supposed to be our servant and protector.
- The government, like a bully, creates extreme feelings of fear and terror due to their size, their power and their resources.
- The government, due to their resources, controls the public narrative and can lie with impunity because the public trusts the government, leaving its victims in a state of hopelessness and helplessness.
EMOTIONAL AND MENTAL DISTRESS AND SUFFERING
Angie revealed that during the April, 2014 incidents, she was about 4 months pregnant. At that time, she began to show signs of a miscarriage. She went to see her doctor and after a thorough examination, the doctor said that the baby was healthy and that there was no physical explanation for her miscarriage. He said that the only explanation would be severe stress. He told Angie she would need to avoid severe stress.
Angie said that the stress of seeing Dave Bundy beat up, hearing agents threaten her husband Ryan, seeing snipers pointing guns at her vehicle with children inside and many other stressful factors generated by the government, she almost lost her baby who was born the following October.
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Ryan and Angie Bundy
Angie related how her family had a tradition to meet at the ranch house to watch LDS general conference. Ryan called his dad, Cliven, to ask if they could come and watch with the family. Cliven paused and was silent. Ryan was surprised and asked his dad what was wrong. Cliven, who was normally thrilled to have family visit, was subdued and told Ryan that there were snipers posted on the hills surrounding the ranch house and it could be dangerous for the children. He said that the house was under surveillance and that things were very stressful. Ryan was incredulous and said that he had to come and see for himself.
Angie said that Cliven was having blood pressure problems from all the stress caused by the government.
Angie said that they could see the snipers watching them while the children played nearby. During the abuse of Dave Bundy on the side of the road, she could see the snipers with guns trained on them and had Ryan gotten out of the vehicle, he would probably have been shot.
Ryan was later shot at the illegal roadblock and still has the bullet lodged in his shoulder. Angie said that the focus has been on whether LaVoy reached for a gun or not. But the government had zero excuse to shoot at the passengers, with or without lethal rounds.
ABUSE AGAINST LOCAL CITIZENS
The government has tried to make a case of fear and endangerment caused by the Bundys and the protesters that came to Bunkerville. But the facts deny the lies perpetrated by the government. The truth is that the protesters were peaceful, never used profanity nor threats against the government.
Additionally, Angie points out that the fear and stress imposed on neighbors and locals was palpable and abusive. Friends of theirs who, for years, walked their dog along the highway, the same highway where Dave Bundy was beat up, were also harassed by government agents for walking their dog on a public highway.
CONCLUSION
Voltaire said that it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. If people continue to hold to the idea that government is always right and that it usually occupies the moral high ground, then these kinds of one-way street abuses will continue.
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Dan Love on the Bundy Evidentiary hearing witness list
Dan Love on Witness List for Hearing
IT IS VITAL TO FIND OUT WHAT THE BLM WAS HIDING.
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Dan Love on Witness List for Hearing
by Shari Dovale
During the October 3rd Calendar call for the Bunkerville Protest trial, defendant Ryan Payne asked for, and was granted, an evidentiary hearing surrounding the shredding of documents pertaining to the Gold Butte Impoundment Operation.
As part of the hearing, Payne has requested to subpoena several witnesses, including Special Agent in Charge Daniel P. Love.
During the previous trials, Judge Gloria Navarro has upheld the government’s hiding of the discredited SAC Love and refused to allow him to be called in her courtroom. However, an evidentiary hearing is a bit different, specifically in that the jury will not be witnessing the testimony.
It will be interesting if she will order Love to testify, and whether she will attempt to control what the defense will ask him.
Daniel Love was found to have violated federal ethics rules by the Office of the Inspector General (OIG). However, it was his testimony to the Grand Jury that was the driving factor for the indictments against the Bunkerville defendants.
When the investigation began, Judge Gloria Navarro ruled that Love could not be asked to testify. She does not want any evidence of government misconduct to be presented to the jury.
The government has already been shown to be less than ethical, and the court has backed them up on all of their bad behavior.
The shredding of documents has been glossed over by the prosecution, yet it is vital to find out what the BLM was hiding. The court seems to think that testimony of those that committed this offense, saying it was nothing important, should be a given for the jury.
Part of the jury’s job is to weigh the credibility of all the witnesses. However, the court has made every attempt to force the jury to see things their way. The jury has not been fooled, as yet, and I don’t think this latest ruse by the prosecution will change their opinion.
ICP communications director Toni Suminski is also being asked to testify. Suminski testified previously that she had shredded garbage bags full of documents concerning Operation Gold Butte saying it was “routine” for her to do that.
Additionally, Suminski testified that certain recordings of transmissions between agents were lost after the the hard drive running the recording software had mysteriously come un-plugged during the protest on April 12, 2014.
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Ryan Bundy files a DEMAND that JudgemGloria Navarro recuse herself
Bunkerville Standoff: Motion to Recuse Gloria Navarro
NAVARRO HAS DENIED AT LEAST 95% OF DEFENSE MOTIONS, YET GRANTED NEAR 100% FOR PROSECUTION.
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Motion to Recuse Gloria Navarro
by Shari Dovale
A motion has been filed in the Bunkerville Standoff case to have Judge Gloria Navarro recused. The motion was filed by Ryan Bundy on Oct. 4th.
The basis for the demand for recusal is the public perception of her bias towards the prosecution and against the defendants.
The 25 page filing with attachments cites dozens of news articles pointing to her obvious bias. Citing articles from Redoubt News, Infowars, Las Vegas Review-Journal, Freedom Outpost, as well as a multitude of additional articles, as well as video reports, the motion proves overwhelming bias on the part of the judge.
Even the New York Times states that the public perceptions of Navarro’s rulings have become the story.
Bundy includes a statement from Roger Roots, lawyer and legal researcher, who has studied over 2200 filings on the docket in this case. He determined that Judge Navarro has denied at least 95% of the substantive defense motions.
Roots also states that the motions by the United States have been granted at near 100%.
“No judge in American history has been the subject of more commentary and news coverage describing her as partial in a case she presides over as has Judge Gloria Navarro in the Bundy case,” said Roots.
The motion goes on to explain that actual impartiality is irrelevant. It doesn’t really matter whether or not the judge is actually biased. The problem is the devastating evidence of the public’s perception of her bias.
In other words, the public has lost confidence in the judicial system because of her blatant disregard of the defendants rights. They are feeling that citizen’s in this country can no longer trust the legal system.
The public has lost the trust of it’s judicial system! And we can thank Judge Gloria Navarro for the astounding number of rulings that she has made to prove these allegations.
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the documents filed are viewable on ItMattersHowYouStand.com https://itmattershowyoustand.com/por...1-14-and-1-11/
Case 2:16-cr-00046-GMN-PAL Document 2624 & 2624-1 Filed 10/04/17 1-14 and 1-11
ryan c: of family Bundy DEMANDs for Chief Judge Gloria Navarro to recuse herself as presiding judgein this matter pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 455(a), on grounds that overwhelming evidence indicates a public
perception that Judge Navarro is biased in favor of the prosecution. This appearance of impropriety
regarding Judge Navarro is evidenced by many dozens of published newspaper reports, editorials, online
blog posts and broadcasts. For the sake of the integrity of the justice system, the federal courts, and any
verdicts in this case, Ryan C: Bundy requests that Judge Navarro recuse herself from further proceedings.
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Magistrate Judge Peggy Leen orders many of Ryan C Bundy’s filings stricken from the docket
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Case 2-16-cr-00046-GMN-PAL Document 2753 Filed 10/20/17 Page 1 – 3
ORDER that the Clerk of the Court shall STRIKE from the court’s docket Defendant Ryan C. Bundy’s:
1. Notice Regarding Verifiable Claim and Compensation (ECF No. [2298]),
2. Notice of Rescindation [sic] of Financial Affidavit (ECF No. [2398]),
3. Notice re: Full Reconveyance (ECF No. [2447]),
4. Notice of Patent of Nativity (ECF No. [2448]),
5. Notice of Demand for Immediate Release (ECF No. [2487]),
6. Notice of Termination of Services (ECF No. [2488]),
7. Affidavit Not Pro Se (ECF No. [2489]),
8. Emergency Judicial Notice and Cease and Desist Order (ECF No. [2499]),
9. Notice of Assertion of Right to be Presumed Innocent (ECF No. [2595]),
10. Emergency Judicial Notice and Cease and Desist Order (ECF No. [2606]),
11. Notice and Affidavit of Truth (ECF No. [2623]), and
12. Affidavit (ECF No. [2629]).
Signed by Magistrate Judge Peggy A. Leen on 10/20/17.
(Copies have been distributed pursuant to the NEF – MMM)
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Eric Parker will accept a misdemeanor plea deal.
Eric Parker To Plead To a Misdemeanor
THE CHANGE OF PLEA HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY MORNING, OCTOBER 23RD, AT 8 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
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Eric Parker To Plead To a Misdemeanor
by Shari Dovale
The Trial of the Century has gotten a little bit smaller.
Currently, 6 men are expected to be tried in the Bunkerville Standoff trial expected to begin jury selection on October 30th. Cliven Bundy, his sons Ammon and Ryan, as well as Ryan Payne are ready. Eric Parker and Scott Drexler are scheduled for their third trial, after two previous trials this year resulting in acquittals and deadlocked verdicts.
But Parker and Drexler have been offered plea agreements by the government that will allow them to close the book on this chapter of their lives.
After negotiations that have gone back and forth for weeks, Eric Parker has been offered a plea agreement that he feels would be the best for his family.
Parker has agreed to accept a misdemeanor charge of “Obstruction of a Court Order.” This basically means that he will agree that he went to the bridge after Cliven spoke at the rally. He heard the BLM officers say that there was a court order and the protesters need to leave. The agreement does mention that Parker was armed and refused to leave the area when the officers told him to do so.
That’s it. It is a very basic misdemeanor charge that will allow for time already served in prison and probation. This is very similar to the agreement that Scott Drexler was offered. It is anticipated that Drexler will be considering accepting a similar deal as well.
The charge allows for up to 5 years of probation, which the prosecution intends to argue in favor of. The defense believes that, since Parker and Drexler have already served more time than this charge calls for, they should have a greater than average chance of a short probation.
Parker’s plea agreement includes a no forfeiture clause and a no restitution clause, so his financial situation will not be precarious. Additionally, Parker will not be required to testify in the upcoming trial.
The change of plea hearing is scheduled for Monday morning, October 23rd, at 8 o’clock in the morning.
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Vivian Pilger OCTOBER 22, 2017 AT 4:31 PM
Had a feeling they would want Andrea out of there, her daily reporting shed too much light on their proceedings. Hope someone takes up that post.
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I missed this article by Gary Hunt published August 30, Ryan Bundy’s shoulder holds the key.
I should have posted this in the Malheur Protest . . . . .
Ryan Bundy Holds the Key – Burns Chronicles
ASTARITA IS CHARGED WITH LYING ABOUT THE SHOOTING, NOT WITH THE ACTUAL SHOOTING OF FINICUM AND BUNDY.
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Ryan Bundy Holds the Key
Burns Chronicles No 59
by Gary Hunt
August 30, 2017
On January 26, 2016, several people, in two private vehicles were on their way to a scheduled meeting John Day, Oregon. While in a forested area, with extremely poor, if not non-existent, cell phone coverage, they were set upon by modern day highwaymen (highwaymen were people who stopped travelers and robbed them). The driver and passengers of the second vehicle submitted to the demands of the heavily armed interlopers, at gunpoint, to leave the vehicle and sit on the side of the snow-covered roadway.
The driver second vehicle, a white pick-up truck, following the exit of one of the passengers, sped away, seeking the assistance of a peace officer, Sheriff Glenn Palmer, of Grant County, Oregon. However, within a couple of miles they found that the highwaymen had set up a barricade across the road, barring passage. The highwaymen, hidden behind their vehicles, began firing shots at the white truck. This forced the truck off the road, where some rather adept driving may have saved one of the highwaymen’s life, by swerving, at the last moment.
The truck then came to a stop, and the driver, LaVoy Finicum, exited. In the back seat were three people; Shawna Cox, Victoria Sharp, and Ryan Bundy. Bundy sat on the left and Cox on the right.
Having already been shot at, there was concern for the safety of the party. Finicum, in an effort to draw fire away from those still in the truck, began moving towards the rear and away from the truck.
There were lots of loud noises. Some from 40 mm projectiles of rubber bullets and tear gas (OSP recovered 13 40 mm casings), others from flash-bang type grenades. Included, however, were two shots that came from the left-rear of the truck. One hit the top of the truck and one broke the driver side rear window. The round that broke the window may well have hit the side of the truck, pressuring the window to break, and deflecting into the shoulder of Ryan Bundy. This is the more logical explanation, as the velocity of the bullet, absent any other external resistance, should have penetrated much further than the fleshy part of Bundy’s shoulder.
Now, this gets interesting since the Oregon State Police (OSP) had to account for shots fired, though they could not account for two shots. Shell casings were missing, and the rather perplexing task resulted in speculation regarding the bullet impact on the driver’s side of the truck. Their conclusion was that it must have come from the shooter that fired three shots as the white truck approached the highwaymen, as shown in this OSP exhibit:
The government tried to attribute the shot at the rear door to the three shots fired as the vehicle approached the barricade. However, this does not quite work, as if you look at the yellow line in the third image. You see that if it did hit the truck, it would be a glancing strike. It would have been deflected upon impact, and the initial point of impact would be the most damaged. Any additional damage would have been less, as the bullet was deflected away from the truck body. As you can see, the greater impact was on the right side of the gap between the door and frame.
We must consider the possibility that the shot came from the left rear of the truck, which was the location of the FBI HRT (Hostage Rescue Team) members, including FBI HRT SA W. Joseph Astarita. Its initial impact would be the greatest, then, if it dented the side of the truck sufficiently, it would possibly enter the door, itself, behind the sheet metal surface. Upon impacting the door bracket that holds the window in place, if it exerted pressure on that frame, it could cause sufficient pressure for the window, itself, to buckle, spewing out pieces of glass when it burst, as seen in the video (linked below), rather than a break because of a direct impact by a bullet.
That same bullet could then deflect off the door/window frame and enter Ryan Bundy’s shoulder moving upward into the fleshy part, from the rear of the shoulder, as Ryan had turned to the right, and had bent over in an effort to protect the women.
Now, the question is, is that a bullet in Ryan’s shoulder? Well, the medical records from Harney District Hospital, in Burns, where Ryan was taken after the highwaymen kidnapped him and the others, except LaVoy, who lay dead where he fell after being shot in the back three times. The hospital reports indicate that there was “oozing” bleeding from Ryan’s right shoulder. Some of the language used in various reports from the hospital includes a written notation, “… consistent with bullet fragment versus other metallic foreign bodies.” Then, in two typed reports, we find, ” INDICATIONS: Gunshot wound to right shoulder”, and ” INDICATIONS: penetrating gunshot wound”. So, based on the X ray and the medical reports made within hours of the shooting, there can be little doubt that the highwaymen shot Ryan Bundy.
Now, considering where the shot probably hit, LaVoy had just exited the truck, and Ryan Bundy had just leaned over to protect the women. It is obvious that the shooter did not hit his target; perhaps he flinched, or is just a bad shot. However, every indication is that Astarita was trying to murder either LaVoy Finicum or Ryan Bundy, or both.
Here is what appears to be the scenario that resulted in a bullet in Ryan Bundy’s shoulder:
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Now, some will suggest that it was a bullet that shattered the window, as seen in the video of this moment in time. There are three versions:
Real Time (0:56)
Half Speed Slow Motion (1:51)
Quarter Speed Slow Motion (3:42)
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Now, most people believe that the window that shattered was shattered when hit by a bullet. To put their minds to rest, when a bullet strikes a safety-glass window, it leaves a hole about the size of the projectile. Then there is a much-disrupted area of extremely shattered glass, though still bound by the plastic, usually just a few inches in diameter. Finally, there is some cracking outside of that radius.
Why is this so important? Well, Maxine Bernstein, Oregon Live, made the point in her recent article, “LaVoy Finicum Shooting: Prosecutors seeking missing shell casings, metal fragment from Ryan Bundy’s shoulder“, dated August 3, 2017. Maxine has covered the entire story, from the courtroom standpoint, from the beginning. In this article, she seems to have a little insight into what may be the defense’s strongest argument, a lack of evidence, when she wrote:
The case against an FBI agent charged with lying about firing two shots at Oregon standoff spokesman Robert “LaVoy” Finicum most likely will turn on expert testimony about the validity of the Deschutes County Sheriff’s Office investigation, a defense lawyer said Thursday.
No one reported that they saw or heard agent W. Joseph Astarita fire and no direct evidence exists linking any bullet or shell casing to Astarita’s rifle, one of his lawyers said.
Prosecutors countered that the investigation continues and revealed for the first time that not only are shell casings from Astarita’s alleged shots missing, but so are shell casings from some of the Oregon State Police shots fired at the Jan. 26, 2016, roadblock.
Eight shots were fired. Six shell casings in roadway are all gone,” said Assistant U.S. Attorney Pam Holsinger, chief of the Criminal Division in the Oregon U.S. Attorney’s Office. She didn’t elaborate. State troopers fired six of the eight shots, with the other two eventually linked to Astarita, investigators and prosecutors said.
Astarita is charged with three counts of making a false statement (18 US Code §1001) and two counts of obstruction of justice (18 US Code §1512(b)(3)). What he is not charged with is, though it has become apparent that he did in fact, attempt to murder LaVoy Finicum and/or Ryan Bundy. As indicated by Maxine’s article, the prosecution is suggesting that there is no evidence — not of murder, rather, that Astarita lied.
Astarita was first scheduled to stand trial beginning August 29. The trial was been designated :complex” (Yes, that is what they have done in both the Burns and Bunkerville trials) and rescheduled to February 27, 2018.
The roof shot was a shot taken at an occupied vehicle, a criminal offense under state law. The door shot, described above, was taken while LaVoy was still just outside of his door and Ryan was huddled over Victoria Sharp. The shot was fired just between the two of them, indicating that in Astarita’s haste, he simply missed his mark.
Back on March 5, 1770, the King’s soldiers fired on and killed five people. They stood trial before a jury of citizens, though were found not guilty because they had a right to self-defense. However, both the laws and the people had a right to determine what they government could do, and what it could not do.
On January 26, 2016, a government “soldier” (armed with military grade weapon and accoutrements) attempted to kill, or at least, recklessly endangered the occupants of the white truck. He is not charged with such a crime, even though one of the occupants sustained a gunshot wound. Instead, he is charged with being dishonest and impeding an investigation. That would never have happened if we were still under the King. Instead, we have the hens (the United States Attorney and the FBI) guarding the foxhouse (the FBI), so, well, we know, now, just how this may end.
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Andrea Olson-Parker reports on Eric Parker, Scott Derxler change of plea hearing Dan Love hearing ~J Grady
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Did U.S. Attorney’s office give Dan Love the order to release Bundy’s cattle? Entrapment for criminal prosecution?
US Attorney’s Office Implicated in Bunkerville Standoff?
“I WAS DOCUMENTING THAT OTHERS WERE MAKING DECISIONS EVEN THOUGH I WAS DESIGNATED THE INCIDENT COMMANDER,” LOVE SAID.
October 23, 2017 BLM, Featured, Nevada
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US Attorney’s Office Implicated in Bunkerville Standoff?
Dan Love Testimony Suggests the DOJ may have
Released the Cattle to Entrap the Bundys and their Supporters
by Staff
Fired BLM agent Daniel Love took to the witness stand today in the Bunkerville Standoff Trial. Love testified via SKYPE from Salt Lake City, with multiple attorneys in the room to protect his interests. Love was dressed for success wearing spectacles and a vest, a tie and a suit jacket.
Love’s attorneys have been fighting the subpoenas for their client claiming he has developed Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) from the Bunkerville Standoff event in April 2014.
Love was the Special Agent in Charge (SAC) of the cattle impoundment event named “Operation Gold Butte’. Love testified that he had over 200 personnel, including civilian contractors, under his command. This did not include other agencies such as local law enforcement and more than 20 FBI agents.
The focus of the evidentiary hearing was to determine the facts surrounding the destruction of evidence, specifically shredding documents before the Federal agents left the area.
Love testified that he knew absolutely nothing about the destroying of any evidence. He did admit to telling his subordinates to take everything with them “that was not nailed down.”
The defense attorneys hammered him pretty hard when it came to questions about his two laptop computers. It has been previously reported that Love stated to colleagues that both laptops would be lost if he ever got in trouble.
Love finally dropped a little tidbit during testimony about a personal notebook that he had for this ‘Operation’. He claimed that it disappeared before he left the area. Love tells us that he kept notes on his superiors from Washington DC usurping his authority during the protest.
“I was documenting that others were making decisions even though I was designated the incident commander,” Love said.
Love continued to complain about the decisions being made overruling his authority. “We had a very robust communications plan that the government deviated from,” he said.
Love was very forthcoming on this information, yet he was surprisingly unaware of nearly everything else that happened during the cattle impoundment.
Love was on the stand for an entire day, and visibly drank at least three Diet Cokes as he testified. He came across as articulate but arrogant, and quite bitter over his recent firing from his high status in the BLM.
One thing that Love was very clear on was that the US Attorneys office was deeply involved in this operation. Acting US Attorney Myhre attempted to stop this line of questioning, stating that it would cross the line of “confidentiality”.
When attorneys Bret Whipple (who represents Cliven Bundy) and Dan Hill (who represents Ammon Bundy) questioned Love regarding Love’s phone calls with the U.S. Attorneys Office during the standoff, prosecutor Steven Myhre sternly objected. Whipple asked if (then-U. S. Attorney) Daniel Bogden had instructed Love to release the cattle. Myhre objected, claiming the U.S. Attorney had no authority to issue such an instruction. However, Daniel Love stated that the order to surrender and release the cows was given immediately after he spoke to Bogden.
This revelation raises the question of whether the Justice Department deliberately entrapped the Bundys, and made a showing of releasing the cattle solely to set up the Bundys to be prosecuted.
Was Love directed by the highest-ranking federal prosecutor in Nevada to release the cattle, so that the Justice Department could stage this elaborate criminal prosecution?
Love also stated that he was told that the decision had been made that anyone involved in ‘Operation Gold Butte’ was then considered a ‘victim’. “My role changed on April 12th from Incident Commander to a victim,” he said.
Tomorrow will bring BLM communications director Toni Suminski to the witness stand. Suminski was in charge of the shredding of the documents during the Standoff. We will see if she defends Dan Love, or not.
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Andrea Olson-Parker with the end of day on Dan Love’s testimony ~ J Grady
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Rick Koerber, paralegal for Ammon Bundy’s lawyer, “Ammon and Ryan abused again, brought to court in shackles . .” ~ J Grady
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October 24, Andrea Olson-Parker reporting on the continuation of the evidentiary hearing. She comments on how different tne U.S. Marshal’s attitude is and their daily changing of the rules. ~ J Grady
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October 25, evidentiary hearing. Andrea Parker returned to Idaho, these ladies made an attempt to report, but don’t convey the information as well as Andrea did. ~ J Grady
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Lisa Bundy Oct. 24, on the abuse of the Bundy men by the U.S. Marshals
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Lunchtime Update on the evidentiary hearing on shredding evidence, Oct. 25 ~ Mrs.B Stacy
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Have not followed this topic lately very much.
I just want to comment on a couple of characteristics of the geographical U. S. states involved - Nevada, Idaho, Washington. These states are very connected to United Nations Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 programs. These programs have been taking over land mass and transportation roadways and access of the public to these lands and access of ranchers to grazing rights on these lands, which have gradually become "public lands." It is really about opening up Mexico, Central America countries, and South America countries on the south to Canada on the north, thereby erasing United States national boundaries. When you erase geographical boundaries, you erase the Constitution, the rule of law - U.S. law in these states, and U. S. national sovereignty.
Las Vegas is considered an "inland port" or a "hub" by the United Nations Agenda 21 gang and this gang is really the moneyed globalist elites who own and run United States business and all of U.S. government from behind the scenes. The ownership of the major LV casinos is very globalist or international in makeup.
I think the dog and pony show of Gloria Navarro court in Nevada is very much related to dissolution of U.S. national sovereignty and U.S. state independence brought on by globalism that shows itself very strongly in these western and Pacific northwest states.
I also think the Clark county Nevada dog and pony show that is the investigation of the Las Vegas Mandalay Casino and music concert false event is very much demonstrating itself to have absolutely nothing to do with U.S. law and order or the U.S. Consitution. This paticular false event investigation is exactly how an investigation looks when the United States rule of law and legal structures have been almost completely dissolved. This dissolution is more advanced, more complete in the states involved in both the Bundy case as well as the Mandalay Bay / concert false event case.
We the people see that private property rights and enumerated rights of the Bill of Rights are just nowhere in evidence in all of these current court and investigative proceedings.
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Dachsie
Have not followed this topic lately very much.
I just want to comment on a couple of characteristics of the geographical U. S. states involved - Nevada, Idaho, Washington. These states are very connected to United Nations Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030 programs. These programs have been taking over land mass and transportation roadways and access of the public to these lands and access of ranchers to grazing rights on these lands, which have gradually become "public lands." It is really about opening up Mexico, Central America countries, and South America countries on the south to Canada on the north, thereby erasing United States national boundaries. When you erase geographical boundaries, you erase the Constitution, the rule of law - U.S. law in these states, and U. S. national sovereignty.
Las Vegas is considered an "inland port" or a "hub" by the United Nations Agenda 21 gang and this gang is really the moneyed globalist elites who own and run United States business and all of U.S. government from behind the scenes. The ownership of the major LV casinos is very globalist or international in makeup.
I think the dog and pony show of Gloria Navarro court in Nevada is very much related to dissolution of U.S. national sovereignty and U.S. state independence brought on by globalism that shows itself very strongly in these western and Pacific northwest states.
I also think the Clark county Nevada dog and pony show that is the investigation of the Las Vegas Mandalay Casino and music concert false event is very much demonstrating itself to have absolutely nothing to do with U.S. law and order or the U.S. Consitution. This paticular false event investigation is exactly how an investigation looks when the United States rule of law and legal structures have been almost completely dissolved. This dissolution is more advanced, more complete in the states involved in both the Bundy case as well as the Mandalay Bay / concert false event case.
We the people see that private property rights and enumerated rights of the Bill of Rights are just nowhere in evidence in all of these current court and investigative proceedings.
Vicky Davis of The Voice of Idaho News has researched and written extensivley on what you are describing here. I copy/pasted a substantial amount of what she has written here on GSUS in the “Feeding the Dragon” thread.
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Gloria Navarro continues to stack the deck against the Bundys.
Navarro Grants Govt Everything, Defendants Nothing
BRIEFS AND PLEADINGS BY THE DEFENSE TEAMS MAY HAVE CAUSED NAVARRO TO ADJUST HER RULINGS SLIGHTLY.
October 26, 2017 BLM, Constitution, DOJ 2
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Navarro Grants Govt Everything, Defendants Nothing
by Staff
On Tuesday, October 24, Judge Gloria Navarro issued a number of rulings in the Bundy case, granting the government almost everything they asked for while denying the defense almost any means to defend themselves in the upcoming trial.
With a sweep of her pen, Navarro has wiped multiple motions off the docket with arbitrary rulings that only benefit the government.
Shockingly, Navarro even ruled that the prosecution can introduce Cliven Bundy’s 2014 speech in which he reportedly said “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro. . . .” Cliven’s remarks were taken out of context from a wide-ranging discussion of over-regulation, the negative impacts of welfare policy, and benefits of hard work. Many economic studies of welfare policy are in agreement with Cliven’s (poorly worded) remarks. But the publication of Cliven’s speech in the aftermath of the 2014 Bunkerville standoff caused many supporters to abandon him at that time.
The biased judge also ruled that prosecutors may introduce evidence about Jared and Amanda Miller, a married couple who briefly camped near the Bundy Ranch in 2014 area and later went on to kill two Las Vegas police officers. And, said Navarro, prosecutors may introduce claims that Bundy cattle harmed the environment, wildlife, or even sacred Indian artifacts even though the Bundys themselves are barred from even mentioning that the government killed or harmed their cattle.
Astoundingly, Navarro even ruled that the government may play hearsay statements to the jury by now-deceased journalist Michael Flynn claiming that the protest on April 12, 2014 was “illegal.”
Navarro’s one-sided rulings make clear that in the Lloyd George Federal Courthouse, Courtroom 7C, in Las Vegas, Nevada, the Constitution is not welcome. The defendants in Judge Gloria Navarro’s courtroom do not have constitutional protections.
In the pattern of her previous rulings, Navarro granted almost all of the government requests to prohibit the Bundys from mentioning the following:
1. Self-defense, defense of others, or defense of property;
2. Third-party/lay person testimony or opinion about the level of force displayed or used by law enforcement officers during impoundment operations, including operations on April 6, 9, and 12, 2014;
3. Opinions/public statements of Governor Brian Sandoval of April 8, 2014, and/or opinions registered by other political office holders or opinion leaders about BLM impoundment operations;
4. Allegations of workplace misconduct by the SAC (Special Agent in Charge) of the impoundment (Dan Love), or regarding those who worked for, or with, him.
5. Allegations that officers connected with the impoundment acted unethically or improperly by the way they were dressed or equipped during the impoundment, or that they improperly shredded documents during or after impoundment operations;
6. References to mistreatment of cattle during the impoundment operations;
7. Legal arguments, beliefs, explanations, or opinions that the federal government does not own the land or have legal authority or jurisdiction over public lands where impoundment operations were conducted, or that the land was or is otherwise owned by the State of Nevada;
8. Legal arguments, beliefs, explanations, or opinions regarding infringement on First and Second Amendment rights, including any effort to confuse the jury that there is some form of “journalist” or “protest” immunity for the crimes charged;
9. References to punishment the defendants may face if convicted of the offenses;
10. References to the Oregon trial of United States v. Ammon Bundy, Ryan Payne, and Ryan Bundy., or the results in that trial;
11. References to the outcomes in the previous two trials in this case; and
12. Legal arguments, explanations, or opinions advancing defendants’ views of the U.S. Constitution, including claims that law enforcement officers within the Department of Interior have no constitutional authority, that “natural law” or other authority permits the use of force against law enforcement officers in defense of property or individual rights, or that the U.S. District Court for the District of Nevada has no jurisdiction or authority under the [C]onstitution to order the removal of cattle from public lands.
But the precise wording of Judge Navarro’s orders may offer a ray of hope. Some of Navarro’s sentences are worded in such a way as they may allow some defenses. For example Navarro denied a portion of the government’s motion in limine regarding evidence of third-party state of mind. Navarro also ruled that the government’s request to exclude all reference to government misconduct is too broad. Navarro concluded that “a blanket exclusion of these topics is inappropriate at this juncture.”
Thus, although Navarro’s rulings continue her pattern of assisting the prosecution and shutting down the defense, it appears that Navarro’s rulings may be slightly more fair for this upcoming trial than they were in the previous two trials (of Parker, Drexler, Lovelein, Stewart, Burleson and Engel). Briefs and pleadings by the defense teams of Cliven Bundy and Ryan Payne—which argued that the Judge’s previous rulings were unlawful—may have caused Navarro to adjust her rulings slightly.
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Note:
The law enforcement of the United States is the Militia of the several States
Art. I §8 Clause 15 Congress has the power “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”
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from above:
Note:
The law enforcement of the United States is the Militia of the several States
Art. I §8 Clause 15 Congress has the power “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”
couldn't disagree more. that's not what the language says. and how can gov mercenaries be considered such? total bollshot
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from above:
Note:
The law enforcement of the United States is the Militia of the several States
Art. I §8 Clause 15 Congress has the power “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”
couldn't disagree more. that's not what the language says. and how can gov mercenaries be considered such? total bollshot
You are confused as to who and what are the Militia of the several States. Our founders having just come out of the war for independence with Great Britain were wary of standing armies. Therfore they incorporated the State Militias into the Constitution. The Militias had preceded the United States in the colonies for +150 years.
Copied verbatum from the Constitution:
§8. The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defense and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throught the United States:
Cl. 15. To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, supress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
Government Mercenaries are not Militia. The Militia is all able bodied persons of We The People.
The first 13 words of the #2ndAmenndment declares a well regulated Militia as being NECESSARY:
What is “necessary” is “impossible * * * to be dispensed with”. [COLOR=#000000 !important]Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary[/COLOR], (Springfield, Massachusetts: G. & C. Merriam Company, 1913), at 967, definition 2.
Militia, What are they? The laws: http://bit.ly/YNWpXp
Militia, Necessary: http://bit.ly/2fMo0qj
If We The People get our belly full and revitalize the Militia of the several States We can once again control our destiny. A big 99% impossible IF . . .
Revitalizing the Militia: http://bit.ly/2f4hUOp
edit: early Militia entrusted with police powers: http://bit.ly/2fMyG8f
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Suggest this series of articles...
http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin16.htm
"THE MILITIA OF THE SEVERAL STATES" GUARANTEE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
PART 1 of 8
Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D.
July 5, 2005
NewsWithViews.com
"One cannot hold to a fanciful, romantic, or even partially erroneous interpretation of the Constitution and nevertheless expect to be able to use the Constitution effectively to protect his rights. For his opponents will inevitably expose the flaws in his position and exploit them against him. Nowhere is this more true than with respect to the right of the people to keep and bear arms. " SNIP
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Suggest this series of articles...
http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin16.htm
"THE MILITIA OF THE SEVERAL STATES" GUARANTEE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
PART 1 of 8
Dr. Edwin Vieira, Jr., Ph.D., J.D.
July 5, 2005
NewsWithViews.com
"One cannot hold to a fanciful, romantic, or even partially erroneous interpretation of the Constitution and nevertheless expect to be able to use the Constitution effectively to protect his rights. For his opponents will inevitably expose the flaws in his position and exploit them against him. Nowhere is this more true than with respect to the right of the people to keep and bear arms. " SNIP
The website http://constitutionalmilita.org is also Dr. Edwin M. Vieira Jr., Ph.D., J.D. He has authored many books on the subject of Constitutional money. Dr. Vieira has stated he became disgusted with the court system and quit practicing law. He began promoting the Constitutional legal tender the silver dollar. More recently he has become interested in the Militia and 2nd Amendment
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monty have you got any articles on what "well regulated" means?
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monty have you got any articles on what "well regulated" means?
I think so. I will look and post them as soon as possible
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Tumbleweed, in the words of Dr. Vieira “well regulated” means “armed, organized and disciplined.”
http://constitutionalmilitia.org/wel...lated-militia/
He provides a couple of links to the Militia laws of Rhode Island and Virginia as historical examples of their “well regulated Militia”
Every Colony/State identified herself as keeping her Militia "well regulated" in the titles & bodies of their Militia statutes in 1788 & 150+ years prior—
Rhode Island “Regulating” Her Militia bit.ly/2fMftDP
Virginia “Regulating” Her Militia bit.ly/2fuis0N
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Virgina has an historical website with more information on the “well regulated Militia”
http://www.virginia1774.org/History1.html
http://www.virginia1774.org/MilitiaActs.html
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DOJ controlling Bundy Protest? Myhre sinks deeper in the swamp. If the truth were known Harry Reid is and has been directing this charade from the beginning
US Attorney Myhre Sinks Deep in the Swamp
IT IS AMAZING THAT KLEMAN NEVER BOTHERED TO ASK WHO DIRECTED THEM TO SHRED THE DOCUMENTS.
October 26, 2017 BLM, Featured, government 7
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First Assistant U.S. Attorney Steven Myhre is depicted, with U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro in the background, during his opening statement to jurors in the first Las Vegas trial against associates of rancher Cliven Bundy. (David Stroud/Special to Las Vegas Review-Journal)
US Attorney Myhre Sinks Deep in the Swamp
by Staff
Judge Gloria Navarro surprised the defense teams in the Bunkerville standoff trial by allowing them three days of testimony in an evidentiary hearing, with a fourth day promised.
The hearing has focused on the shredded documents found after the protest in 2014. These documents are thought to contain exculpatory evidence, or evidence that would aid the defense.
In a surprising ruling, Judge Navarro allowed disgraced BLM agent Dan Love to be questioned for a full day on Monday. Love was obviously upset at the officials in the DOJ overriding his authority as the Incident Commander.
Love dropped a bombshell implicating former US Attorney Daniel Bogden in the decisions to release the cattle, bringing an end to the protest of the BLM cattle impoundment in 2014. However, the implications were that Bogden may have been planning to entrap the defendants into this prosecution.
Tuesday brought testimony from Kent Kleman , investigator for the Bureau of Land Management. Kleman was in charge of the investigation of the shredded documents.
During Kleman‘s testimony, it was revealed that Acting US Attorney, Steven Myhre, not only asked Kleman to investigate this issue, but set the parameters and directed the course of the investigation. This puts a large “Conflict of Interest” stamp on Myhre’s forehead.
Myhre made repeated attempts to shut down this testimony, calling it ‘privileged’, yet it continued with more details.
It would seem that when the original motion was filed by the defense in October 2016, Myhre called Kleman at that time to determine what happened. Kleman then spoke with Myhre at least weekly for the next year, discussing all aspects of the investigation.
During the investigation, Kleman admitted that he did NOT talk to all the principals involved in the event. This investigator testified that he was told of a “hurried shredding event” yet never bothered to ask WHY they were doing the shredding, though he was told that Command Staff were assisting. In light of this knowledge, it is amazing that Kleman never bothered to ask WHO directed them to shred the documents.
Myhre continued grasping at straws in his attempts to shut down this testimony, as he played with semantics in his attempts to protect the witness and distract from the facts.
BLM Communications specialist Toni Suminski testified that there was no shredding done on April 12th, as the personnel just grabbed their stuff and left the area. She also testified that “Nadia” came with Kleman to question her. Suminski nodded towards AUSA Nadia Ahmed, seated at the prosecution table, when she said her name.
This would indicate even deeper involvement by the US Attorney’s office into this quagmire of deception. How far did the US Attorney’s office go with this? Did they set the specific events to directly allow for prosecution of the protesters?
At the end of the 3-day hearing, Attorney Ryan Norwood (who represents Ryan Payne) pointed out that the testimony of Kleman disagreed with the testimony of Suminski. Kleman testified that some of the shredding took place in a harried and panicked manner on the last day of the BLM’s operation; while Suminski testified that the shredding on the last day–if any–had been quite calm and limited.
This led Judge Navarro to order YET ANOTHER DAY of factfinding on the subject. The evidentiary hearing will continue on Friday November 3 with additional witnesses. Thus, the hearing on the motion to dismiss the entire case will continue AFTER the jury is selected (on Monday through Wednesday, October 30-November 1).
How deep does this swamp go?
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*10/27/17 – edited to reflect the corrected spelling of the name Kent Kleman.
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