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So, with limited information you will refrain from passing sweeping generalizations that may demean the gang of officers but won't let it stop you from passing sweeping generalizations that most certainly demean the single man being beaten and tazed by said gang of officers... and maintain that you are not being confrontational?Quote:
Originally Posted by learn2swim
My aim was to explain where I'm coming from. You don't have to agree. The end....Quote:
Originally Posted by SLV^GLD
Morality is out the window these days. One thing I do know, if I'm tased and they order me to roll on my stomach, I'm doing what I'm told. Do you assume the cops stripped him naked? I'm not sure, it's not a regular procedure that I've ever witnessed. What's the depts taser policy? Is their a limited amount of times a person can be tasered? Tasers are usually employed on people who are non-complaint with police commands. If the person is tasered, and still doesn't follow commands, what are they to do? Shoot them? My main argument that started this who debate off was don't make a final judgement on what you see on tape. The Rodney King incident is a primary example. The media didn't bother explaining what lead to his beating. The only thing they had left was to shoot him. Or, maybe we can create a more liberal policy like if person becomes non-complaint with commands, the police just walk away and let them go. I think the cops made the right choice, so did the jury, and look what happened....Quote:
Originally Posted by Awoke
Law is predicated on innocence until guilt is proven, isn't it? These law enforcement goons are beating a man before he's even arrested. Criminal goons are far too often protected by an unaccountably corrupt fascist institution.Quote:
Originally Posted by learn2swim
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Originally Posted by learn2swim
Why couldn't the four of them just pick the guy up and turn him over?
As opposed to standing there yelling at him and getting their jollies by tazing him over and over. The guy even asked what he had done wrong and he wasn't resisting. {resisting means fighting back, not just laying there}
If the police treated people as human beings first, they'd get a lot more respect.
Because after they took his cloths off he was nakid so they didn't want to touch him... simple really.
The "don't want to touch him" thing doesn't hold water because had the guy rolled over to be cuffed, they would have to pick him up. Which would require touching him.
How can you get up on your own while laying face down and hands tied behind your back?
The four of them could have each grabbed a leg or arm and flipped him over in about two seconds.
I take it you're not a fan of summary punishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa
I began doing ride-alongs in 1983, and I'm here to tell you based upon my own observations since then* the trend is in the other direction entirely and I see nothing which will abate this trend of treating humans like wild animals in need of immediate, summary correction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe King
*When I first started doing ride-alongs any prisoner was placed in the front passenger seat and buckled in. When I was with a cop who made an arrest I was the one who got to sit in the back seat - there were no cages in the backs of the cars then. The dept. which I was doing ride-alongs with began putting the partitions in between the front and back in the late '80s. Now that same dept. has bars on the back windows of the car completing the cage effect along with plastic seats, in fact the latest units now have a clear plastic partition between the RR and LR passenger seats. Treat people like wild animals and see how they respond - it's all very predictable.
That's because they tend to have an "us vs them" attitude.
ie their prejudiced against anyone who's not a cop.